https://youtu.be/FlXiY1seb40
Women have a "biological clock", men have a "financial clock"?
https://youtu.be/FlXiY1seb40
Maybe, but not every man is going to want a family, regardless of their financial situation. Not every man will believe that having a family, a partner, spouse, offspring or a relationship, etc. is going to bring them any or guarantee them any actual "fulfillment", "happiness" or "wholesomeness". I believe that even if I was wealthy as fuck and I'd still feel and have the same feelings of futility and emptiness that I've always felt about this world and reality. And I know that even by having a partner, spouse, family, offspring etc. SOLVES NOTHING, DOES NOTHING TO RESOLVE NOR FIX HOW I FEEL ABOUT ALL OF IT.
As for clocks, that's in regards to time limit, we're all on a time limit here one way or another, and then our time will inevitably be up one way or another, no matter what.
There's certainly an unnamed number of things that cause such a thing like what these clocks are refering to.
Im sorry to hear of your situation. I'm sure many people feel the same way.
Since it is a feeling of emptiness, one can't simply feel fulfilled because this emptiness implies there is some sort of draining hole. Trying to be fulfilled is only a fleeting feeling in this case. Filling or sealing that hole needs to happen first.
But exposing that there is such a whole can really help people make sense out of what other problems we have that have relation with this problem.
No, but evaluating the practicality of long term decisions is real. Obviously you’re not going to marry a girl who bites off more than she can chew. If she’s impulsive and wants to get married and have five kids and wants to start her own bakery and own a big house, and and and and…. But she doesn’t have the wherewithal to make it happen and it will all fall on your shoulders then there is trouble down the road. If she has more realistic goals that seem manageable then you can put off becoming Scrooge McDuck until later in life and include her in your life now and work towards your goals as life progresses. Obviously you want to be able to help each other with things that matter. You just have to keep your feet on the ground when you do that.
People do though, they do bite off more than they can chew but they shouldn't. But considering that they guy is dating her than I guess long term sustainability isn't his forte.
Your right that people do need to to make sure they dont over stress about money. Thats a tragic ending.
Steve's pointing out how the guy feels though and it happens. When it happens who knows if its going to be themself or not its happening to. He does give a good explaination as to why the dudes avoiding commitment. I think one suggestion towards a solution is practically what you said, reintroduce the term planning into peoples vocabulary. but also other things ofcoarse.
Yeah, there's no shortage or irresponsible people, couples that are financially underwater, or divorces that occur due to disputes over money to follow through with that trend… There is no reason for a guy to feel obligated to chase a crazy woman’s pipe dreams though. That’s why you get to know them and what they want from life and take it slow, because once you’ve legally tied the knot the government will destroy your life due to her irresponsible behavior. I don’t have a financial clock, because I don’t feel I’m responsible to give a woman everything she wants in a one way direction. She needs to work to achieve her goals in life just as I do and we can both help each other along the way to reach beyond our individual capability at times working as a team. Steve wants to play the bank… I don’t...
Guys still want to care for theyre women, including giving them a stay home life with the kids and thats important. This isn't about being a rich successful dude to be a man, its in understanding what a guy is feeling.
But again I agree with you. Spot on otherwise. Dudes shouldn't date or incentive gold diggers or lousy women. Some those ladies ought to be single forever. Or at least they should find a man that can equally contribute to their own misery.
Men gotta not date those types of women and its fine if they want to be providers. If anything these guys have to sit down with their SO and communicate this stuff, women gotta be open minded to it too. Like, if they need to scratch off the vacation to hawaii to have a family then they ought to talk about it and find a way together to succeed.
“Guys still want to care for theyre women, including giving them a stay home life with the kids and thats important.”
Nah not really. Many men think it’s important to have a wife that is educated, who works, and has some depth of character. All of that is part of being a positive role model for your potential future children. Planning years ahead to save up and being able to pick up the slack when a new born comes for a little bit is normal, but plenty of women go back to work within a couple of months even if they don’t work as many hours as they did before. Women pump breast milk, there are baby sitters that specialize in taking care of babies for working mothers, and general daycare/preschool starts at about 12 months. I don’t know any guys that wants a stay home mom life for their wife/kids.
We obviously aren't talking about what every single man wants without exception.
The stay at home mom thing is something of the past. Sure, we live in a different age as then. Women will be expected to be better mothers or be more than just slaves in the house. Thats not to say that mothers that stay at home to raise the kids is bad, actually not raising healthy kids is bad. Raising healthy kids requires time and attention, not just schools and big government. Your actually a role model by being with your kids not by leaving them without any role models. They should though be more than either a dead beat with a job or a dead beat without a job. Plus daycare ruins children and people should be having time spent with their own family.
That said you can find a balance between all these things. Apart of that is fiscal responsibility and proper planning. Another part of that is finding a way to get through these unforeseen or insurmountable obstacles and remaining a healthy family that still wants to have kids without pushing the F clock into the next generation. When these things happen I suggest that couples work together to find alternatives to their issues.
Day care doesn’t ruin people, nor does it prevent parents from spending time with their kids every morning, afternoon, and evening on weekends and vacations… Going to day care exposes you to other people like you will be for the rest of your life. Obviously you had a stay at home mom and were sheltered from the world and were dependent on that model of childcare so you think it’s how it needs to be, but it doesn’t... A lot of guys don’t feel the way you do. Most likely the large majority that live in the post industrial world...
Great deductions einstien.
I think parents need to love their kids. I must be over sheltered.
A lot of guys dont think the way I do because they aren't me. They also have didn't group preferences they abide to.
Right because other little children are terrific role models and can provide the neccessary love and attention that only a family can provide.
I ought to go hang out in the slums and assimulate to those guys, because any exposure is good exposure.
Thanks for ruining the conversation pal.
The reality is that the large majority of people in the post industrial world grew up with working mothers. You think the large majority is the exception to the rule. You're off in la la land. The moment I pointed that out you're fliped out and had a hisy fit. You never learned to be around people that didn't telly you you're the best little apple of sun shine. It's sad really.
Who are you to say you know what any reality is when you can't even point out what went wrong in our discussion. It was actually you that instigated the conflict and it was you having the hisy fit. It wasn't me accusing you that you must be some whatever because stupid reasons. That was you. I responded in kind. So are you dense or delusional?
Go back further where you make sweeping judgements about all men, dismiss anything that doesn’t align with your view as the exception to the rule (even when it's the majority not an outlier), and then call people messed up because they go to preschool. You’re fucked in the head dude. You talk mad shit about the majority of people, someone points out facts to you and then you have a fit. Get help.
When it comes to settling down/starting a family yes I’d agree with that for a good portion of men.
I know that’s the pressure of requirements they have but life is what happens when you’re waiting for the milestones... careers and money is something so hard to measure that when is enough enough to move onto those next steps?
I’m infertile, if I waited for my husband to be financially ready without my help I’d probably have missed my window. Fertility declined steeply with age, couples need to find a balance between being ready financially/career wise and still being able to physically have children
I think you bring up a good point. Waiting too long is very bad.
There was a time when money didn't really exist, still had to raise a family (I mean that very loosely, ancient times were living nightmares) People shouldn't get too boggled down with trying to provide a perfect scenario for their offspring. You really do have a shorter window then what you would hope for and waiting too long is a bad choice.
I think if we reincolcated good family values we might be able to bypass most of it too. Like just knowing that a family can still be great despite financial challenges is worthwhile, hell we kinda fought that battle historically so we know its possible. But teaching skills and such to make these things seem more real would be a good start. You dont see wisdom being a thing running through society nowadays
It’s kind of hard though... it’s more expensive than ever to raise children - living on one income only is near impossible without the breadwinner sacrificing their time with the family to purely earn money and not many want to make that sacrifice.
I think there is a balance between time (youth 😉) and that career/financial aspect it’s just that people are aiming higher than what’s probably necessary before starting.
It’s better than not being financially prepared at all though
Again you bring up great points.
Its thinking like that that will reveal the sokutions we need.
So when it comes to imcone disparity, I think people need to stop with the nest egg. Its bad if you can't afford it. I've known plenty of single moms that get by with multiple kids on welfare, maybe not the most ideal situation but people can survive in apartments. People expect too much that kind of way. Instead good investments have to be made, these investments should supercede things like estates. Paying for the right education, training, etc. Relocating to better and cheaper residencies, avoiding overpopulated areas. Living sustainably and most importantly adapting with the advancements in culture. Like, there's always going to be a niche in the market for people to move into and find security, everyone trying to apply for the same old outdated job isn't good. They need the skills to adapt to the changes of society.
But then again, a lot of the problem isn't financial. too. Sone people are disturbed and no amount of opportunities will get them out of those situations so other changes need to happen too. definitely need to revision our ideals of welfare, not in increasing the redistribution of wealth but helping people in. the need of mental health crisises.
So basically we need to become more societally sophisticated.
@Wonderer89 Obviously it's none of my business, but sorry to read about your infertility. It always seems like it happens to people that actually want kids and want to be parents. Good luck. 👍
@NYCQuestions1976 oh thank you, that’s really kind. We actually did a few rounds of ivf that ended up successful, so are incredibly blessed with a little boy 😊
Awesome! I'm a full-time single parent. I love being a father. My son is 9. 👍
@NYCQuestions1976 wow go you! Parenting is much harder than I thought it would be lol single parents are practically super human in my eyes 😂
Well my retired parents help out a lot, which is great because I also work full time.
I think what Steve is true. Women have their plans and expectations but men need to put their financial act together. If a man gets married when he is not prepared financially and emotionally, that can bring friction into the relationship because women can deliver their expectations but rarely do they support the husband. So it’s more convenient and fun to enjoy a relationship without binding each other until they are ready. Just support each other to get where both want to get, that’s where you will measure the strength and the love in the relationship too.
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Steve Harvey is so on point with that.
I'm going to generalize and say often women just think what they want by what time without considering "is this even possible? Do we (or even worse 'does he') have what it takes?". Meanwhile men are busy with these considerations and the last thing on their minds are the end goals like women tend to do. Women sometimes tend to not understand us. No offense.
So yeah, i do have a freaking financial clock. It's part of my survival instincts.
there's got to be a major shift in culture about one aspect in this. The feminist mantras are somewhat on point but the whole "kill all men" thing really makes them lose credibility. That thing is that men do need to be able to learn how to communicate better. Like, this is another symptom of the breakdown in communication between partners. Like, the girl you are speaking of clearly needs to be corrected in her absent mindedness and the guy has to be able to let her know the full situation.
The feminist thing is BS though because while they say "open with our feelings" they actually mean "do as we say and be another girl in our cult" Its about conformity with an idealogy.
there's that and women really need to start loving men because while they spew garbage about equality the have absolutely no intention to listen to mens feelings. They are actually the sole cause of everything they project. Women got to start seeing men as vulnerable and emotional too, because they dont. They equate girls feelings and the way girls react with emotions as the only emotional response. When guys have a different way of being emotional and just because they are not acting like girls doesn't mean they are psychopaths. Girls gotta start caring for men.
Our most powerful weapon is to pretend that the misandristic feminazis do not exist. Out of sight, out of mind. Ignore them completely. They want attention for their BS. Never give them any.
Then turn to the normal and cool ladies and give them your attention. They deserve it. They'll appreciate it.
You will see it works wonders.
I agree with the second part.
The first part I dont. I understand why people might think that though, which is if you give them a platform to speak you encourage their ideas, which is highly contrary to the existence of free ideas. If that were applied to free speech we wouldn't be having this discussion.
Also, women, even the nutters need to be heard. They aren't going away and driving anything underground makes its stronger. These women may have valid opinions and plights, if they are right we should follow their suggestion. We need to know if they are right though. We do that through dialogue. Almost everytime, feminist ideas crumbled under scrutiny. Youd be granting them a grace by displaying the hunanity to listen, and you'd be diffusing their power in rhetoric.
But men do need good girl. allies. Its an idea Im slowly building up to. there's a cancer in society which is mentally disturbed women and they are controlling the popular voices over social media. Good girls are believing them but they actually love men. We gotta give these good girls the platform to disassociate them from the psychos. Because riggt now they dont have a voice, every collective girl voice out there in the public sphere is psychotic. Men and women like each other and we have to route out bad men from our sidecand women need to route out bad women from there side
I think GAG is one of those platforms. We might need more however. I can't really find anything. I've been looking here like sweeping through the list but found only GAG.
en.wikipedia.org/.../List_of_social_networking_websites
According to wikipedia "GirlsAskGuys is a digital community meant to close the gap between genders by bringing them together to help each other. Women and men discuss lifestyle issues such as dating, relationships, fashion, and health by sharing their experiences and opinions to help the opposite sex understand their own."
And I personally agree with that.
Its so polarized though and an app like this (no fault of its own really) only exacerbates preexisting social and societal preconceptions. Like, people are highly vulnerable to suggestion and coercion, just at a rudinentary level, and they fall under spells from smaller things than whats on here. Whats on here though is the constant regurgitation of popular mantras, almost all of them being the machinations of disturbed people, because you know, the squeaky wheel gets the oil and the insane are usually the ones trying to control everybody else. I dont think having more hubs like this does any good, it has the opposite effect, it just conforms more people into oversocialized perspectives.
How long have you been here? I've been here over 4 years now and have learned a ton by now. When I joined I was a confused 19/20 year old kissless virgin man, who never touched a girl/woman beyond their hands briefly (cashiers). Now I am anything but that (except I'm still a man, hahaha).
My point is that in time - if you decide to stay here for longer - you'll get your questions answered by the community (and the opposite sex in that matter). If you were like me 4 years before, you'll get quite some revelations.
I used to wander around the MGTOW (Men "going their own" way) online forums in the beginning too to accomplish 2 things at once: 1) on GAG i can learn about the good stuff about women and relationships and 2) on MGTOW i could learn about the shitty sides about women and relationships. But MGTOW tended to over-dramatize a lot to the point where they personally expressed deep hatred towards women.
Both men and women gave me answers when I was confused. I take it from your profile display age you are 29. You might probably not be that confused young man as I used to be. But one thing is certain: There are lots of rational men and women out there - so don't let the bad images of either side (feminazism/MGTOW) spoil your view on them.
I appreciate your warm sentiment.
However, I don't look for answers in asking people questions. I've been skeptical of people all my life. There's nothing they say that I believe. I merely am polite as to be compatible. In which areas I am agreeable, it's to be civil. The people I encounter though I doubt can be taken at any face value. From my understanding most people are not who they think they are. When it comes to the likes of illusions, they have no power over me. MGTOW, Feminism, any ISM I am partially immune to their effects because I have my own doctrines to spread. Where we cross paths it's not for any other sake than my own. When it comes to reading human nature, I can usually predict the intent of murderers just with a few glances. I need no help understanding women.
That is if it presumed that all men will be very rich and women will become very poor as I am pretty sure enough money attracts sugarbabies on both sides. It also neglects the fact that both males and females can't have kids past 40/50.
Just checked that average age for menopause is 51 and males struggle having kids post 40. ALSO for women who partner up with men over 40, the chance of miscarriage, if conceived, is 27% higher. (https://fertilityfirst. com. au/impact-age-male-fertility/) .
So, no. We both have a bio clock, men even more than women. Depending on where we live, we can usually acquire partners easier if we have money. Maybe not the type of partners we should desire, but partners nevertheless.
The financial clock is dependent upon your career. I know lawyers who are making more in their 60's than they ever made before. My uncle was career military and retired before 50. He has a lifetime pension that is more than the median income in Orange County, which is pretty high. He also has a second career and makes another $80K there, so for him, too, he is making more than ever.
A downvote for simple facts? This site busts me up.
Ever wondered why women start to panic when they're approaching 30s? After years of chasing and banging with hot guys, suddenly they are willing to settle down with a guy who they would even not touch with a stick if they were younger... This happens due to biological clock as they have to start a family and time is running out, so they take what they can get.
In a such situation most of guys do fatal mistake and enter a relationship, not fully leveraging their position. What they should do instead is to fuck her and move to next girl and repeat the cycle. Guys in 30s have great positions due to built careers, gathered wealth and experiences, yet they waste everything into some used chick past expiration period.
And one more thing: women like fucking older guys, so that's a perk too. It's not unusual if a teen girl has sex with a guy in 30s or 40s. Use this as well.
I don't think a good strategy with dealing with entitled, whorey women is to sleep with them and chuck them. Maybe you meant more but as it is thats a bad plan. Thats a total justification for whores to abuse men. "Men just sleep with me for sex, why can't I sleep with them for money?" Its bad. Its also like giving crack to a junky. You shouldn't worsen an addicts addiction by giving them more drugs. We still have to look after the broader society and even when these girls are distasteful we can't just go treating women like garbage. The solution is, dont sleep with them. Keep it on your pants. Dont me a man whore.
I'm approaching 30 and I don't panic at all period
Lmao I like how you try to excuse pedophiles while saying this other crappy stuff
Probably true for most people but I have no bio clock so I’m in the clear 😘
No need. I don’t understand why people panic over these things. Some people aren’t parent material and it’s just in the worlds best interest if they don’t have kids. And then if you are meant to have kids, that doesn’t mean they need to be biological. Everyone with a dysfunctional family should know that blood doesn’t mean everything. The whole hang up on passing down dna is nothing but projected pride. Humans should learn to humble themselves.
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Personally, I took the batteries out of my biological clock and put them in my vibrator.
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Of course the hoe wants be a mother and a wife because it requires no work on her end. A man has to bust his ass to set up a lifestyle appropriate for a family
Everyone has a biological clock, there have been extensive studies on it.
It basically tells you when to eat, when to sleep, e. t. c.
It's your schedule.
This is absolutely accurate. Ladies, Steve Harvey knows what he's talking about when it comes to men. I have watched so many of his episodes through the years and he hasn't said anything that makes me question him. I'd say he's a great source to learn from.
That was a good video and Steve Harvey nailed it. I think women today tend to be very self centered and often don't REALLY consider the man's perspective like this.
Well I agree somewhat. Like sure there's girls like that. But in a case like this chick on that video, its not an obvious problem. Like not much cultural factors can lead to being unable to read a person like that. I mean, there are self centered women but at the same time its ordinary among people to miss these kind of things. at least I dont think this particular girl would easily fit into those other brackets
I disagree. Watching that video and listening to her perspective as she explained the situation to Steve Harvey, she was being exactly as I described. She had given zero thought to why he had gotten cold feet and was focused 100% on her own needs. Very self centered.
She clearly did get it when Harvey explained what was going on, and that's good. But nevertheless, her mindset before that was a perfect example of what I am talking about, and represents most women's thinking today.
The problem is a focus by our society on women's needs when it comes to marriage and family, with virtually no consideration for men's. For example, consider men's rights when it comes to reproduction and parenting, and how the courts adjudicate those cases. I don't think I need to elaborate on that, do I?
Well that last part is a whole other talk in a way. But I think there's some tom foolery going on with how men are veiwed in society too.
Your probably right in whatever it is your saying about that lady. I actually dont recall the video all to well and didn't look for that at the time I watched it. Im not really interested in going over again too.
I think we can agree that it is a thing that happens and its significant enough to worry about.
I have tonnes of thoughts on that kinda stuff too. Just not too sure which ones are relavant to bring up at the moment.
Fair enough.
Cheers
LOL... I was wondering where you were trying to go with hat one.
No because u can make a career when u are whatever age 30 40 or 50 , but girls can't have kids after they are like 35 so its kind of true and after 30 its dangerous the older woman is the more dangerous is for her to have kids
So female clock is true , but male for money is not true
males can't have kids after 35/40 also. Pretty sure if you are rich enough you can get a sugarbaby even as a female.
@victoriaxoxo huh? men can still conceive even at the age of 100. their sperm will be lower quality and they may have difficulty getting an erection, but it's still possible.
Ummm... yeah except maybe the dude didn't want to get married in the first place, since most guys don't actually want that. It's usually the female pushing marriage, not the guy. Not always, but usually.
Nope, otherwise I'd say my "financial clock" >>>> my "biological clock" LMAO
I got it, and I answered "no" to the question cause I disagree
No, at least there is no one only for women and one only for men. Both genders may have both in different proportion depending on the person
Sure, I don't think people would mean such a thing otherwise. They would specify such a distinction, such as all women, all men etc. Or it may just be implied by some other factor like a broad cultural reference.
I was just trying to pin point what you meant though. I think I get what you were trying to say
False and ignorant. It’s not only about money with men and it’s not only about looks with women.
Money and looks mean nothing. In the end it's all the same, it all fades and then inevitably WE'LL ALL DIE.
Exactly
Even having a family, spouse, etc. DOES ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO CHANGE NOR FIX THAT. That whole passing down genes thing is a complete false sense of security; a complete misconception and fallacy.
Fix what?
Fixes nothing. Referring to how everything and everybody comes to an end inevitably. But if it's something somebody really believes in and is absolutely certain that it's going to bring them joy, "happiness", "fulfillment" and makes them comfy, then so be it. All nothing more than futile attempts to try and fill a void and emptiness in their existence is how I look at it and feel about it.
there's a Johnson and Johnson commercial thats on the television, and thers a part which always kills me. I want to be a father. but life seems to be passing me by
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@Spawnface, Dude, you should seriously consider theatre as a career.
@DianaWest him or me? Cause that was all him I agree man's got talent
@DianaWest seems like good people
Correct for the most part.
this makes a lot of sense.
I have a sexy clock.
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