Do you think guys or girls are more desperate to be in a relationship?

[Anonymous]

Do you think guys or girls are more desperate to be in a relationship?

Guys are

Girls are

[ImagineSketchy]

Women for relationships. Men for sex. Women seem to want somethibg more longer lasting, but a man is just as willing to be all aboard for the long haul, assuming the prize is worth it. Generally speaking, a man is more satisfied simply having a woman that he can call his and one that outright enjoys being with and such. We aren't nearly as picky, however, there are times the desperation of some men is rather obvious. It's normal as most males do not reproduce. This is not only an obvious case in humans, but the animal kingdom as well. Males compete a lot more because we have to show a form of dominance or that we are better than the other men. Biologically, males are more desperate, however, socially, females are more desperate.

[devilman666]

Men are desperate to be in a relationship, women are typically more likely to be desperate for a relationship with a "good" man, whatever their definition of good is. This is shown by how women typically have much higher standards than men, women want a relationship but demand a financially, emotionally, and physically beneficial one. Further evidence of this is the growth of groups like MGTOW and incels, incels being deperate for a relationship but unable to meet most womens standards, and MGTOW being men who stopped being beneficial enough for their woman and they were shown just how replacable they were.

So men are desperate for relationships in general but women are looking for specific relationships that benefit them.

[devilman666]

Another way to define MGTOW is men who decided to seek their own happiness rather than devoting themselves to making a woman happy.

[LuWe22]

Girls are. My sister won't leave her abusive boyfriend just because she fears to be alone.
Most girls work best in a relationship than being alone and lonely. Hence they seem kinda desperate when single. Some girls even jump from relationship to relationship because they always need someone by their side.

[I_smell_Ducky]

If the posts on GaG are anything to go by, guys. By a long shot.

[brittslitt]

😩🤣🤣

[Grobmate]

If we went off the posts on GaG, vaginas would have teeth and penises would shoot acid...

[ChurchOfIron]

Women reproduce 2x as often, currently--and, throughout history, it has been as high as 17 women reproducing for every 1 man, so I'm going to say men are more desperate for a relationship. Or anything relevant to a relationship, at all.

Men will accept just about anything. Women have much more access, but they also have much higher requirements, so they're more discerning when it comes to which males they pick. Which makes it somewhat conflicting. While a woman has much greater access and ease of mate selection; she may not be satisfied with what she has access to, which may make her remain desperate for higher quality mates.

At the same time, a man has to do a lot more to be desirable; so, that leads to a higher barrier of entry into the dating pool, for males, discouraging a lot of them from even trying. The difference is, even if a woman isn't trying, she still gets a pool of mates to choose from.

I recently read an article that suggested that fat women have just as much sex as normal women. So it's like, if you feel desperate, just ring up one of the desperate guys that are just waiting for the opportunity, and you can at least mute that desperation.

I dated a pretty ugly chick at one point. Like a 3 out of 10. Now. I think I'm pretty hot. Shredded body, confident, driven, etc. Like a 6.5 out of 10. I justified it as just trying to help her, because she was damaged.

I swear. After we broke up, she had one date after another. 5, 6, 7 guys. And she kept bragging about how easy it was to get laid. And she was *ugly*. Even being hot, it was not that easy, for me, to get friggin' 10 dates. I went through quite the dry spell after that.

Women are just more desired and held as much more valuable by default, even the low value ones. So, yeah. Men are more desperate. By biological design.

[NineBreaker]

TBH I think that guys are more desperate for sex, while women are more desperate for relationships. It's not necessarily the overwhelming majority; probably just sizable percentages.

That's why women are far more picky about men's dispositions, behaviors, and accomplishments, which may be big contributors to relationship success, while men are more picky about how women look, which is associated with sexual appeal.

That's the confident, intelligent, sensitive... etc. guy who is not necessarily good looking may be relatively more successful in the dating scene, while the same is also true about the women who are perceived to be attractive by men.

Collectively, we're all nothing but a bunch of gold-diggers and hound dogs. Sad, but true.

[hellacray]

I think it's guys.

Girls I feel don't get desperate until they're older and need to settle down. When they're young they do whatever the hell they want.

Cause you know you're young gotta live the moment and see what life has to offer. Not to mention guys are still the ones approaching girls so all they have to do is sit back and choose.

Once they start getting close to their 30's and 40's and still got nothing serious after bouncing through so many relationships. It's actually time to put in effort to find the right guy.

[deangelisbabe]

hmmm i don’t really like this question. i don’t think it really matters what gender you are. i think it’s just the situation you’re in which causes you to be however desperate you are. i don’t think it has anything to do with male or female. it just depends on who you are , who raised you, and your current situation. i think everyone is desperate at one point in their life so there is no point in choosing a gender saying that they’re more desperate when it has nothing to do with that. also most people don’t really realize how desperate they are or that they aren’t desperate at all.

[Adam19E]

More and more men are single and virgins. So why this "Incel" epidemic? Thas because of dating apps, in a world where everything is based on looks and literally women decide who they sleep with more and more guys that are average and below average are missing out. Thats fact and studies prove this, im sorry girls... i know you dont like the appearance of how shallow you really are but lets be honest.
1. Looks
2. Sexual compatibilty
3. Persoanlity
Thats how it is for both men and women those are the first 3 things we all want even men.
As more men are single the need for them to be in a relationship grows.
I mean look at me, im single and a virgin and i always het rejected... good persoanlity i have but sexual experiance and looks i dont have. I guess im just too ugly but thats okay... its biology and as much as i wish i was good looking thats not gonna happen any time soon.

[ChurchOfIron]

Just don't fall into the trap of hatred. Hatred won't solve anything. If that's your profile picture, you are not ugly. You've got a good facial structure, if not a masculine one. But I guarantee you there are chicks out there who would love your looks.

I'd also add that, to women, 80% of guys are "below average attractiveness" by default. So even really, really good looking guys, if they're not in the top 20%, still look ugly to women. They have a higher baseline. But. The way women perceive physical attractiveness can change based on the characteristics of the man, unlike male perception of female beauty.

i. e. Men must *prove* that they are physically attractive through actions and behaviors.

Focus on loving women, and they will pick up on that. If you go into it with a hatred of women, they'll pick up on that, too. Do what you need to do to spike your confidence. Adjust your perception--look positively at situations instead of negatively. Take risks. Get rejected. Get rejected over and over and over and over again.

It's been explained to me like this. Say someone says they'll give you $5,000. But you have to walk into a room of women and ask each one if they have the money for you. If one says 'no' are you going to get despondent and feel terrible about it? No. You'll just be like "Oh, you don't have what I'm looking for. Okay, I'll ask the next chick."

That's how you should view finding a chick. You are the man. You go for what you want, and if they don't have it, okay, no big deal, someone else will.

[Adam19E]

Im not gonna hate girls because i can't get laid im not like those incel guys lol. Im just stating facts.

[Adam19E]

Also you say focus on loving them, i treated her like a queen, helped her through her parents divorce and all of the hard bits in the middle. I cared for her and yet, i came to like her so when i made a move i got rejected. Then she met this guy 5 mins later and there going out on dates and stuff simply because he's "Hot". I dont hate women but honestly they should just be straight with guys then give mixed signals and waste there time. I mean after telling this girl i liked her she rocked up at my room late at night dming me telling me she was come... and all that happened was we talked about her life and how she feels subpar. Thats right im the emotional tampon,

[ChurchOfIron]

Good. ^-^ The incels are right on a lot of things, but their conclusion is really wrong.

Oh yeah, no, don't treat them like a queen, though. ^_^; Can't put them on a pedestal, have to treat them as a fellow human and make them earn your respect. Gotta be selective, even though you might not have as many choices as women do.

Yeah, you kinda were the emotional tampon, haha. Can't get girls just by being nice. You gotta make it exciting and play their game. Subtle innuendo and word play gets them off hard. And, if nothing else, it allows you to gauge whether or not they're interested.

And you have to understand that women are not direct. They just aren't. We def wish they would be, but that's our job. Women are afraid, weak, so they fear being too open. So we have to be strong.

You really just have to learn more and more about women, how they function, what they want, and how to give it to them.

But given your use of the term "emotional tampon"; you're clearly on the right path to understanding women. ^-^

[DizzyDesii]

I dont know many men who want to settle down. And a lot of women realize that too and have converted over into being single independent women. Sadly i dont know many people who still want to be in a relationship. there's few of us outside of those who are already taken

[awkwardman]

Well you can add me to the list of guys wanting to settle down. I couldnt care less about notches on the bedpost bullshit. But there is no women in my area who want that they want the bad boys and players.

[DizzyDesii]

@awkwardman dang sucks

[Anonymous]

Pah! Women do not love men!
But men on the other hand are getting desperate... if not for MGTOW. You can see it pretty much everywhere.

[weaseljelly]

:( yes we do

[Opinion Owner]

@weaseljelly Good to know. However you account for one woman since you said you do. In my experience women did not show that they care about us. Not much in the real world. Less so here on GAG.

[sexylexi99]

Yupppp

[EmbraceThePain]

The key word is “relationship,” so in this case, I might say women are more “desperate.” I think men are more desperate to loose their virginity or hookup with a woman if they haven’t had sex in awhile, but that doesn’t mean they want a relationship. I could talk about this topic longer, but I’ll just leave it right here for now.

[PinkMichae]

I'm not sure I would say men or women for the most part are desperate to be in a relationship. I think most want to be. To me desperate would mean they would go to any lengths to be in one. Plenty of people are happy being single and/or taking their time to find someone.

[Snakeyes7]

Women’s biological clock is ultimately why men are more desperate. The biological clock and the fact that women replenish one egg every month is what makes women have higher standards. Because of those standards, men typically have a harder time scoring a date. This makes them desperate as this makes the stakes of losing the relationship much higher than it does for girls as data from OKCupid says that on average women find 80% of men below average on attractiveness.

[brittslitt]

I hate kids but that's true

[007-Tarzan]

Girls are by a long shot. If it's not relationships... then it's just attention in general. Most of them live for that validation... probably sounds bad wording it this way... but it is what it is...

[BeMuse]

Search google with the phrase “won't commit”. See how many of the top ten refer to men vs women. Who do you think is trying to get the other into the relationship now?

[Asker]

I didn't do that but I am going to assume that men are the ones who won't commit

[BeMuse]

Yep. 100% of popular results are focused on women trying to figure out how to lock a guy into a relationship.

[007-Tarzan]

Ahahaha... that's a cool way of looking at the issue... pretty self explanatory... 👌

Girls just don't like to admit it... it hurts their ego and their pride... plus its not a matter of desperation... it's a matter of basic needs... women require men more than men require them... just to function happily... like I said in my post... they require validation, comforting and support way more than men... it's a genuine need for them..

[hahahmm]

The guy is more desperate for a brief period of his life. She’s more desperate for 50 to 60% of her lifd

[DeepInConversation]

I hear more often from mothers to their daughters "why aren't you in a relationship yet". Fathers are more "why don't you have a job yet, son?". Maybe it's still just that conservative mentality a lot of people have

[bigbang101]

Both are equally desperate but girls are successful in hiding it!

[sexylexi99]

Lmaoooooo this is mega true

[bigbang101]

😎...

[sexylexi99]

Smart guy 🕵🏼‍♂️

[bigbang101]

Thank you! Appreciate it! 😁

[Truthatanycost]

The women's ability to hide falls to pieces when faced with a guy that is not desperate at all. It becomes a complete role reversal at times.

[DizzyDesii]

@Truthatanycost i agree. I dont see many women hide it. Guys hide it well and often act like they dont need us for more than a few hours of entertaient

[Truthatanycost]

@DizzyDesii bigbang101 said that girls were successful in hiding it. I thought you said you agreed with him...

[DizzyDesii]

@Truthatanycost no i agreed withh you in saying guys hide it better especially in role reversal

[Truthatanycost]

@DizzyDesii Oh ok.

[bigbang101]

Not true at all... I have "acted" with many women in ways which would show that i dont care but that doesn't attract them to me... I have been kind hearted towards them which would put me in the friendzone... Women are stupid creatures (not all but most, especially where i am from (asia)) they cannot differentiate between whats good for them and whats bad for them especially in the matters of love...

[Truthatanycost]

''Acting'' in ways which would show that you don't care only works if a connection, sexual tension, and or some level of attraction was built before this.

[ronaldo75]

Men are desperate for sex and it's hard on us because we are the pursuers HOWEVER, women are more desperate for actual LOVE and attention.

[bladedshard]

Well said

[R4vedave]

Sexually desperate? Men.
Romantically desperate? Women.

[hereforthefunofit]

Girls by far, the truth is with all the womens movements going on guys are stepping back not wanting to risk a sexual harassment suit if they say the wrong thing to a girl.

[TheFlak38]

Guys definitely. Guys have never been more thirsty now that women have instagram and tinder. And yes these two apps in particular are for women who whore themselves to corporate giants.

[Ursidae]

Guys, girls typically have way more options. Guys have to go out looking, girls can just sit there and if they feel they aren't getting approached enough they can start approaching guys themselves

[ritxi]

I think that girls are more desperate to begin a relationship, because they are more worried to know everything about a guy in a first date, but guys are more desperate to keep a relationship, because they sacrifice much more things to achieve it.

[megaman242]

I think guys are, girls can almost guaranteed just pick who ever they want to. Guys can't do that and therefore have a harder time getting who ever they want.

[Randomawkwardness]

In terms of who posts more and whines, women. But I know in reality it's probably equal.

[bklynbadboy1]

I think both to me cause deep down Everybody's wants to be apart of something special

[LuvAsh]

I think that idmt just depends on the individual but i barely ever hear a girl whine that she isn't in a relationship the way I hear guys whine😂😂😂 I'm sorry but its the truth.

[Billy96]

Nah sorry I disagree with u on this... its both in my opinion

[Billy96]

I think its like equal I mean
I personally don't whine
Yeah it sucks to be dumped for another dude.. its like wow I'm not good enough or I don't make her happy or whatever anymore...

[LuvAsh]

Rofl well u can disagree idc😂😂😂 not gonna stop me from believing tht more guys whine🤷🏾🤷🏾😂

[awkwardman]

Nah girls may not whine like guys do but you ladies sure bitch about it more and if your not bitching about it your talking about other people that are. So it takes the cake women want it more. Go ahead change my mind with a million usd

[Lauren-green]

Haha funny more guys think the guys are and more girls think the girls are 😂

[Twenty2]

What do you think?

[Gottabsavagee]

Nobody is as desperate as me.

But yeah women definitely. Guy are desperate for physical things but NOT ALL’

[Romeo0071234]

Why do you say nobody is as much as you?

[Romeo0071234]

Well.. you don't have to answer here if you don't want.. you can pm me.

[Gottabsavagee]

When I love the guy I want ti be with him as much as possible

[Romeo0071234]

Oh ok. I see what you mean.

[J3nny]

Girls at my school literally go from grade to grade trying to get guys. It’s pathetic

[ConfusednClueless]

Girls, we are raised to beleive are worth depends on what men think of us and that we need men to be succesful.

[Snakeyes7]

So are guys though. There is a reason the saying “happy wife happy life” is a thing.

[ConfusednClueless]

I have heard the saying but men are also taught that they should provide for themselves. It is also normal for men to be bachlors but bachlorettes get the your biological clock is ticking comment all the time. Not to mention the your looks won't last forever comments.

[Edanurus]

I feel today guys are the ones that want a relationship more.

I think girls are more likely to think they have options, that someone better will come along eventually.

[needadvice1245]

I'm desperate only because I've been in and out of relationship s since a young age so being single doesn't feel normal it's not easy when your used to being with a girl

[weaseljelly]

Men in China are desperate for women; women in Russia are desperate for men

[Anonymous]

Guys are far more desperate but I feel like guys are also the ones who more often are not looking for a relationship. It's girls who complain about that. So I'd say girls here.

[Anonymous]

Guys don't have a biological clock for one thing. Not really fair, but sadly true.

[stormbreaker06]

Girls because they can't make it in their own and be well rounded.

They need a man to feed off of.

Men can because we are thinkers doers and are emotions don't effect us as much compared to females

[genericname85]

obviously girls are, cause they have to. their biological clock is ticking... guys don't have that kind of pressure.

[mistixs]

Studies indicate otherwise.

"61% of single women reported they were content on their own... Only 49% [of men] said they were content without a mate. The study also found that guys are much more likely to want to partner up than women; 75% of women said they hadn't actively pursued finding a partner in the past year, compared to 65% of men who said the same."
www.menshealth.com/.../or

"three out of four women say they’d rather be “alone, successful, and happy” than be in a relationship that’s anything but. Only 58 percent of men can say the same."
www.bustle.com/.../183949-more-women-enjoy-being-single-than-men-survey-finds-and-heres-why

Women are also more likely to initiate breakups of relationships, not just of marriage, but in general. This wouldn't be the case if women were more desperate to be in relationships.
And men are more likely to regret breakups: www.vice.com/.../men-tend-to-struggle-with-breakup-regret-more-than-women

[genericname85]

@mistixs i see you did your best gathering data that you hope supporst your argument xD you did good work there, however you have to be carefull cause you're interpreting your normative narrative into data that doesn't support it.

i'll go through it one by one and show you what i mean:
1 being content on your own doesn't mean you're more content alone. and not pursuing dating doesn't mean that you're more happy doing that. that is even if the individuals claim that.

2. it doesn't matter if people say they are more happy alone. we have methods to actually verify that the thesis that single people are more happy and we know that is not the case as the data strongly indicates otherwise.

3 women need a good and committed partner. therefore of course they're more likely to break up, cause they don't have time to mess around with men that are less than idieal for them.

i happen to be a social scientist and in the field we have extremely reliable multivariate analysis of happiness, life satisfaction and mental health determinants.
we know that people are generally more happy and mentally healthy as well as overall more healthy and more satisfied with theif lifes if they are in a relationship vs. if they are single.

we do know that in the wake of gender equality, nowadays women will say that they're more happy alone, yet if you actually look at the influence of relationship status on life satisfaction , mental health and happiness, you will always find a strong and very significant positive effect of being in a relationship if all the important controll variables are taken into account.

what people think and answer is strongly influenced by what you ask. if you ask them if they can be happy without a partner they of course will say yes. some will even say they're happier that way to reduce cognitive dissonance but how they actually do feel does differ from that.

[mistixs]

Do you have sources that prove that women emotionally benefit more from relationships?

[genericname85]

so in a nutshell: people will claim thei're happier alone when they're alone, cause that's part of the coping mechanism of being alone.

if you look at the quality of life variables and how it is influenced by relationship status, you can reliably see that people who are single are generally less happy and satisfied with their lifes than people that are in a relationship.

if you conduct multivariate regression of life satisfaction and relationship status + controll variables, you will reliably find the following order of happyness (happiest to least happy):
in a relationship>single>widdowed>divorced.
if freshly broken up, we see a short spike in life satisfaction that goes above being in a relationship but that evens out ans settles down to a satisfaction level below being in a relationship. this is a common occurence that is covered by the set-point-theory of subjective wellbeing in social science.

[mistixs]

I asked for sources that women are sadder than men to not be in relationships

[genericname85]

@mistixs i'm a social scientist... i didn't say that to brag. i said that because i do know how to find out what influences life satisfaction. i have access to the tools that enable me to see what influences there are, in which direction they go and how significant they are.

you don't need to trust me though. you can look at litterally any study that explores influences on life satisfaction. along with age, income, gender, country of origin (if you work with a multi-national dataset) and year of inquiry (if you have a longitudinal dataset) and social inclusion. those are the very basic determinants of life satisfaction and we include all if not most of those in every study of life satisfaction. therefore the positive influence of relationship status is visible in pretty much every study considering life-satisfaction and subjective wellbeing (SWB).

if you work in the field, this isn't ground breaking news :D we knew this for a very long time already.

if you really doubt me on this, go ahead and read:
Paul Dolan et al. (2008): Do we really know what makes us happy? A review of the economic literature on the factors associated with subjective well-being, in: Journal of Economic Psychology, issue 29 (2008) Pages 94–122
you can find it under: doi:10.1016/j. joep.2007.09.001 if you wanna use sci-hub

"Generally speaking, being alone appears to be worse for SWB than being part of a partnership" - Dolan 2008, page 106.

in this publication, the methodology is openly explained and you can see the result yourself. this is just one example that shows how we do it in social science.

[mistixs]

Being single might negatively influence life satisfaction, but I still need to see proof that the effect is greater for women than men

[genericname85]

@mistixs ok here you have a more easily understandable work:
forum.effectivealtruism.org/.../a-happiness-manifesto-why-and-how-effective-altruism-should

lh5.googleusercontent.com/EcCj4xBcsI9CpMF_T2vrY2p0iCEm3aY5gNimitN40mJvYLW8SpxfIf9Ct-nBmn4TXw6Urdg0Axy8A_8CQn5xiQ9onKUuJlDIWx0jJ4QROOt4o5FTpgtuNpqe_niGM_1eN9zEPfKF

here you see the effect. this source also shows the effect after separation that i previously spoke about.

[genericname85]

the effects are roughly the same for each gender, that's why we don't include gender specific data on this. this is so commonly known that we imply the reader knows that. however it's pretty easy to just show. i'm sure you can find some studies that do that. i never claimed that the negative influence is greater in women. i just say that being along is generally worse so your claim that women are happier alone is not correct.

[genericname85]

along=alone*

[genericname85]

sorry i need to correct myself. we do already include gender as a controll variable, therefore the effect of gender is already accounted for if we look at the influence of relationship status on life satisfaction.

[chriscdi]

I don't know, dudes ig cause they sometimes think with their dicks

[Aphrodite801]

Guys they are more desperate all around with everything involving the opposite sex

[CURIOUShErE1]

I think it is an age thing. Middle age or mid 30s ladies are more likely to feel a rush.

Dudes are always looking for a lovely lady friend. 🤣!

[Passinggas]

I don't think it matters really. All I know is I don't want any stupid relationship. Sex only...

[Lord_of_Penguins]

No one is more desperate than me. And I am a guy. Sooo Id say guys.

[NervousGuy95]

It is very interesting that guys think they are more desperate, and that girls think they girls are more desperate

[GreenGold1992]

depends on the individual person, not the gender

[Asker]

but in general as a whole, do you notice more girls or guys?

[GreenGold1992]

hard to say, I wanna say both equally, but I'd have to say girls a little more

[shakersandchangers]

Girls are more desperate to be in a relationship because they want and have been taught to be dependent on guys.

[Anonymous]

Anyone with a shred of honesty will say that girls are.

[Hyker7998]

no, guys aren't willing to admit it if its someone they really like

[Anonymous]

Girls! Definitely, guys just keep waiting lol

[Grobmate]

Girls. Without question.

[Sha84]

I don't believe is gender specific

[Sweatyotterr]

Guys so many simps these days it’s embarrassing

[Aleera]

Girls and I don't know why

[izzie_morris]

Short term- girls but long term- guys.

[Secret6620]

In my family girls are. 🤦

[Silvius]

And you?

[Secret6620]

I am not 🥰❣️

[Secret6620]

I usually prefer being single. Less pain.

[Silvius]

Masturbating is good enough

[JoeDo3]

It's a close one but i have to say the girls

[rjroy3]

Girls by far. Not even close.

[motownplayer2000]

Depends on the individuals involved

[brittslitt]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😩. 🗣the pic speaks volumes

[Asker]

Gag picked that

[brittslitt]

Wow 🤣😭😭 thata so fucked up

[Asker]

Yah, it makes it look like the guys are more desperate...

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

From what I know, guys. By far!

[StickStickity13]

From what I've seen, women

[greekgirl00]

Girls it seems like a compaction.