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god didn't make you this way-this is sin.
Says she's a christian but says God made her this way but hasn't heard the story of Soddomon and Gamorra lol tf has to be fake
@Fuentes or, amongst the many people who've fallen pray to false teachings.
Sure, if you want to.
Homosexuality is a sin
Grow up
Nobody asked for your homophobic opinion
Freedom of religion: *exists*
Bible thumpers: imma ignore that
@redvelvetcx imma ignore that
He’s not being homophobic. He’s telling the truth from what’s in scripture. But he’s done plenty of sinning in his life and so have I. He should of provided more context beside a one liner though.
From a secular evolutionary standpoint I think homosexuality came about to prevent overpopulation. I used to think it was a choice but now I think it’s at least semi genetic.
But as for this girl yeah she crossed over. But I have to wonder about something. Is all this teen angst, family drama, rebellion, etc making her try something so radical? Is this a lifestyle she is going to choose for the rest of her life? Or this an experiment?
The difference is the woke left wants to EXTOL homosexuality like it’s the greatest thing ever. The beginning of gay rights was all about “the government shouldn’t control what I do in the bedroom” and “we shouldn’t be persecuted or bullied.”
Alright fair enough. We live in a free country and should be able to do what you want. But why is that LGBT group just HAS to take things a step further? They just HAVE to have parades and marches. They just have to have a gay pride month. They just HAVE to use sexual identity as a bargaining chip.
Being against homosexuality is homophobic and she did not ask for a homophobic opinion, so what’s the point in him answering if this question is not for him?
It’s called celebrating your pride and being proud of who you are and to feel safe.
@bluetoblack99 yo bro don’t throw your pearls to pigs, I said what I said and I stand by it. They don’t have to like it, don’t waste your time arguing
“Don’t throw your pearls to pigs” says the bible thumper
Yes don’t throw pearls at swine. But I was standing up for you.
But you got to hit their approach from both sides. Secular and spiritual. Spiritual is what often matters but they don’t understand that language.
But from a secular standpoint these people are destroying families. Believer or not that’s bad for society.
@bluetoblack99 I couldn’t agree with you more brother, but in this site. I don’t fight. I say things and I’ll never take it back. It’s a sin. Point and blank, repent of all your sins and turn to Christ get your salvation.
I agree. But you got to hate the sin not hate the sinner. You have to hear people out so they feel understood. But you have to draw the line and not say it’s okay.
There are churches right now that are twisting scripture to say this “is okay”. We all know what the Bible says about false doctrine. But I also believe in the separation of church and state. But now state wants to take over church.
@bluetoblack99 papa all I said is homosexuality is sin. I never said I hate homosexuals
But neither of us were ever born with those impulses. It’s not a temptation you or I deal with. We just have be understanding of that.
That is your opinion I am not going to attacked you for having different point of views. I am straight but I do believe that Jesus loves of regardless. I do believe even if we do not agree about someone else sexuality they deserve to be treated with respect they're humans too , That's my opinion I am not her to insult anyone I respect every one.
@Butterflies1995 I’m not insulting her or even judging her. Yes Jesus loves her and as he loves all Gods children. But he never said NOT say this is “okay”.
@bluetoblack99 Jesus die for our sins all we can do is pray for them. I would never treat anyone differently base on race color or religion. I am Christian too I would never make fun of a muslim or they're culture. Not saying that you aren't disrespecting her Im just saying we all deserve respect. I apologize about my writing I am still learning English myself.
@Butterflies1995 nah I made a few typos myself and I’m a native speaker lol.
Yes Jesus did die for our sins. I wish it was as easy as just saying you believe in him and that’s it. But Christian means “Christ like”. Think about that.
I’m not condemning her. I confess I personally struggle with porn since I was a teen. Really nothing good about it.
However I do condemn people especially church leaders who say this is “okay”. That’s completely false. I would never expect to hear that when it comes to my sins nor should I. It’s not something to be proud of.
Let's say the Bible was true, and it wasn't just a jumbled up contradiction. Homosexuality isn't a sin, and no where in the Bible does it say so. I'm Omnist, I don't believe in God or whatever else.
But I've read through the Old and New testament. Both are giant contradictions, that in the end makes no sense at all, and there still isn't anything that says it's a sin. Sins aren't real either. We can't live without them.
It’s clearly in both the old and New Testament.
Leviticus 18:22
"Do not practice homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman. It is a detestable sin." (NLT)
1 Corinthians 6:9-11
Don't you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don't fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality, or are thieves, or greedy people, or drunkards, or are abusive, or cheat people- none of these will inherit the Kingdom of God. Some of you were once like that. But you were cleansed; you were made holy; you were made right with by the spirit of God”.
There is only one verse that hints at female homosexuality.
Romans 1:26-27
"God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error."
Now there is no direct verses about premarital sex or masturbation. Those are two sins I think everybody on this thread including myself are guilty of. But Jesus said “even if you look lustfully at a woman you already committed adultery with her in your heart”. The men around him trembled and one of his disciples said “who then is saved?” The Jesus said “come with me. What is impossible with man is possible with God”. He offers a way out.
Now nothing I said above is meant to condemn but to warn. Modern Christians aren’t burning gay people at the stake (although in some Muslim countries gay me still get thrown off buildings)
Jesus never advocating killing or persecuting someone for their sins. He let them make a choice to follow him and if not he let them go their way.
Just come out when you’re ready
God doesn't make people gay lol
Nobody asked for your homophobic opinion
Freedom of religion: *exists*
Bible thumpers: imma ignore that
@redvelvetcx it's a Sin, Angels struck gays blind its not homophobic to state facts that you wanna ignore also we have free will that doesn't mean i get to steal from you and say God made me this way just isn't true
Stop shoving your religion on other peoples throats. I hate to break it to you but there is no proof that your religion is real so stop acting like there is. Let people believe in what THEY want and stop telling people what to do. Freedom of religion means “this is against my religion so I can’t do that”, not “this is against MY religion so YOU can’t do that”
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@redvelvetcx there is also no proof that being Gay is normal, they can't make babies, they can't really have "Sex" as a Man and Women can, they're prone to diesease's such as HIV which is way higher in there community check CDC. Just like a man can't be a women and vice versa, because men don't get periods and women can't get rid of theirs without taking stuff & if thats gone they're women. So with all the facts it's a Sin clearly & you can't shove your love for homosexuality down my throat because your upset at the truth
Being gay is normal because homosexuality is found in around 1500 species and there are also gay penguins that adopt abandon babies. There is also scientific studies that show that transgender people are born in the brain of the other gender, that is a huge part of what gender dysphoria is which is why scientists supports them.
Tons of straight people get stds and tons of gay people don’t have stds. That’s just like a racist trying to justify their racism by talking about some black people being criminals.
Nobody is shoving their homosexuality down your throat, nobody is telling you to be gay.
Lmao how can I take you seriously when you’re assuming shit and clearly don’t know that allies exist. I’m not gay myself, I don’t have to be gay to support gay rights😂
I also love how you completely changed the subject because you know I am right.
Lmao yet you think that’s not homophobic
And you’re clearly the one that doesn’t want to hear the truth. That’s why you got triggered and mentioned a bunch of unnecessary shit.
@redvelvetcx the subject is God doesn't make you gay, nothing had changed i think you either didn't read or maybe don't know how, it's a sin and race has nothing to with gay people they're not a race and animals have nothing to do with gays because that's different and they aren't humans if you wanna make that comparison then your saying bestiality is ok as well and those are all wrong and no such thing as being born in the wrong body, that's just a mental diesease now if you wanna bring race into this one you can because that's like saying someone born black was meant to be born white but both parents are black but he was born in the wrong family right or is that seen as a mental issue to you? Im not going to accept gays ever and the Bible just proves my point, i won't be ok with it, i won't watch shows with it in there or movies and my children will be taught the same i can't hate people with a mental illness and are in sin in there lifestyle
Again stop forcing it on other people, everybody has a right to believe in what they want. And yes it did change because you mentioned a bunch of off topic shit.
I didn’t say that race and sexuality were the same thing. I said that you talking about some gay people having stds to try justifying your homophobia is like a racist person talking about some black people being criminals to try justifying their racism.
Mentioning that some animals are homosexual is saying bestiality is okay? I talked about what animals do with each other, just like what humans do with each other. Not what animals do with humans. Animals have sex with each other. Animals pair with each other. Animals bond with each other. Homosexual animals exist just like homosexual humans do. That is no where near saying that bestiality is okay because what animals do with each other has nothing to do with what they do with humans. Bestiality is nothing nature related because it is unnatural.
Comparing race to gender identity is the kind of argument only an uneducated person would make. Your race has nothing to do with your brain. Gender does. Nobody is born in the brain of a certain race.
Okay and believe in what you want but why force it on others? Why tell people what to do with THEIR lives just because it’s against YOUR religion?
And you’re clearly ignoring everything I say.
And by the way, again it’s called gender dysphoria. That’s not comparable to race because your race has nothing to do with your brain.
@redvelvetcx you're a big hypocrit you're saying an uneducated person can't say they were born in the wrong body of there skin color but a person can say they were born the wrong gender that makes no sense and is mental in both ends especially sense scientist are making a way where parents can choose the gender of their children they want lol so just because someone put a label of dysphoria it's still mental and it's a sin to be gay and a sin to say God put you in the wrong body its just not possible, you're what you were born to be the fact you're being a hypocrite right now proves im right , if you say trans racial can't be a thing like Racheal Dolezeal who believed she's a black women then how is transgender ok? Oh wait it's cause it doesn't have s label yet? "Racial Dysphoria" once it does then what will you say?
You’re just showing how ignorant you are, you clearly didn’t listen to anything I said. The color of tour skin has NOTHING to do with your brain. But female and male brains do have differences. Its called gender dysphoria, its not something that you randomly identify as. Scientists don’t support people choosing the gender of their child and doctors don’t even allow that at a too much of a young age when children show signs of having gender dysphoria. I know about that being a thing. Some people may have racial identifies but that’s not a biological thing and like I said, it’s not something that people randomly decide to identify as. The “acting black” thing is something that was created by people and appeared in black culture due to history that happened in America.
Racial dysphoria is not a thing so comparing racial identity to gender identity will never be comparable.
Racial dysphoria is not a thing so racial identify and gender identity will never be comparable.*
The poor arguments you make, your grammar, your logic, the fact that you barely pay attention to anything I say prevents me from even being able to take you seriously. It’s pointless speaking to you.
You’re the hypocrite. The reason it shows how uneducated you are is because it shows that you’re not educated on gender dysphoria. If you did, you would know that racial identify and gender identify is not comparable no matter how much you were against it.
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And by the way, it’s not because of a “dysphoria label”, it’s because of the fact that dysphoria is the reason they are who they are. Try actually knowing what it is and not just knowing that it’s a thing. Another thing that shows that you’re not educated. All of this proves I’m right.
@redvelvetcx everything you literally just TYPED me is pure hypocrisy to its fullest, really you're basing everything on science and back then scientists didn't have a wore for transgenders nor did they support it and many years for gaya before it was marked as a mental illness, did you not know that until scientist changed it soooo if you're saying Trans Racial can't be a thing because " Scientist" haven't gave it it a name then you're a straight hypocrite because your choosing to support one thing and call the other mental but they're in the same category "one being born in the wrong body" but you're saying because there's no label for. it yet.
as of before gays and transgenders did not before then it isn't possible and it's a mental. condition so what is transgenders and gays set under a mental. condition so thank you for proving my point, because they're people like Racheal Dolezeal who think they're wrong color and maybe science could explain that with the more trans racial to come out, you can't support one thing thats exactly the same and then deny the other because it doesn't have a name yet hahaha i got you Check Mate, stay off my chess board you're a hypocrite and don't back pedal now at the end of the day it's a sin and you won't change my mind and i can't change yours but i can provide you with straight facts and if you choose opinion over facts then you're doomed a fiction life.
You are literally ignoring everything I said because you’re ignorant and uneducated.
Science is real and I’m literally stating facts and it’s a fact that your race has NOTHING to do with mentality. Race has NOTHING to do with personality and that is a fact, you don’t even have to know the science to know that and listen to how hypocritical YOU are because you’re basing everything on religion LMAO. I literally already told you this. I am not saying this because “science hasn’t given it a name.” I already explained it to you the difference between gender and race and about how gender dysphoria works, race has nothing to do with your brain. Someone identifying as a certain race is just something random a person chooses and it is extremely rare. Gender identify is not like that. Gender dysphoria is something that starts during childhood. It’s a brain imbalance.
It is not classified as a mental illness. It was like WAY back in the day when people were ignorant. There were also people who got diagnosed with being mentally ill due to barely having ONE depressive episode but they didn’t even have anything severe and people gave horrible treatments to people that were mentally ill so no that’s a poor comparison, you can’t judge things based on that time. I already told you it had nothing to do with the label. You clearly don’t even know what gender dysphoria is, you just know that it’s a thing. Hell, I wonder if you were even familiar with it before I mentioned it. Another thing that shows how uneducated you are.
Did not before then what? You made a typo or are you THAT illiterate?
You are clearly running out of arguments and that’s why you’re ignoring everything I say and mentioning a bunch of off topic bullshit. You’re oblivious as hell. It’s like arguing with a child. If you’re going to be homophobic and transphobic, at least get educated first. Because you literally are showing how closed minded you are.
How old are you? 12? Your profile says you’re 28 but I find that hard to believe because to be completely honest it feels like I’m arguing with a CHILD. You’re so ignorant that even a homophobic and transphobic person wouldn’t like you. I can tell that you ALREADY have a lot wrong with you even if you weren’t homophobic and transphobic. I can’t take you seriously AT ALL.
All you’re doing is proving me right. You’re embarrassing yourself like really bad. You’re childish as hell.
“Opinions over facts”
Are you stupid? I rarely insult people but jesus christ... You are the one using religion which is clearly an opinion and saying that homosexuality is a sin which isn’t a fact. Not only that but *I* am literally mentioning nothing but FACTS. Facts that have studies attached to it. You are SEVERELY ignorant and hypocritical. Not only a hypocrite but a hypocrite that calls someone else a hypocrite... smh.
It’s literally a fact that race has nothing to do with your brain but gender does. That’s the whole concept of gender dysphoria. And that’s why racial dysphoria doesn’t exist because nobody is born in a mentality of a certain race.
Race is just the color of your skin... your brain is not made any differently.
It’s not about “labels”, it’s about the fact that gender dysphoria is an actual thing. Some people develop the brain of a different gender. That’s how it happens. It’s a biological cause. But race has nothing to do with your brain. It’s that simple... I know some transphobic people that would even know that, that’s not a good argument.
@redvelvetcx im sorry those people. you know are not smarter then me not everyone can be perfect & yeah everything u said about being trans racial is once what everyone once said about gays and transgenders and you're just repeating what they said because being gay and tranagender once rare too. That's why it was deemed a mental illness, i already won thia conversation you just proved me right over and over again you're a plain hypocrite. i also noticed you called me illiterate and that has nothing to do with typos, the definition of being illiterate is not being able to read, so obviously you might be the illiterate one if you could not make sense of my words being written in clear English also the only one embarrassing themselves is you typing me section after section and a essay of pure hypocrisy and again and again making the same point others. Made against gays and transgenders proving me right over and over again so thank you for boosting my ego cause i already know im smart :)
No, you are SEVERELY ignorant and uneducated and you know it.
No being gay and transgender is not rare, I know tons of people that are gay or trans, that is incorrect. It was never rare in the past, just less people came out because they weren’t as accepted. TONS of gay and transgender people from back then that are still alive have shared their experience with what it was like back then. Just like I said, people automatically got diagnosed with being mentally ill (nothing transgender or gay related) then there were proof that they didn’t have anything severe enough to be considered mentally ill but of course you ignored that part, just like you ignored everything else I said. There is a reason it is no longer classified as a mental illness because it’s not. Black people were also legally aloud to be discriminated, does that mean it was okay?
I did not repeat what they said. I said that you’re so ignorant even about those people would see it. Because you’re not just ignorant because you’re homophobic and transphobic, you’re a SEVERELY ignorant and childish person and that’s why your opinion can’t be taken seriously. It helps show that it’s not just me that sees that. Like I said, I can tell that you would be ignorant even if you weren’t homophobic and transphobic.
That is not what I said. I asked a question. I said did you make a typo or are you that illetterate. It’s called a question. You just proved me right that you are illetterate by saying that. :) you also didn’t tell me what you meant to say.
I did not make the same point. I was showing how ignorant you are that even they would know that you’re wrong. Again, it helps show you that its not just me that sees that.
You keep ignoring everything I said again and you’re proving me right even more and more each time you respond that you’re desperate for come backs because you don’t have any argument left. I already won this.
It is pointless speaking to you. You are skipping through shit that I said that were filled with facts. You barely have respond to anything i have said. You are ignoring almost everything. Which proves that you’re wrong and I am right. Otherwise you would respond to everything I said and not mention a bunch of off topic shit.
I’m speaking facts and you’re just saying a bunch of stupid random off topic shit and ignoring the facts that I have mentioned. Oh and you stopped talking about religion😁
It’s late so I’m going to sleep. Goodnight.
@redvelvetcx i said it was a sin and i could give a rats booty what a LGBTQ+ lovers and supporters think they're already confused and misguided and a SIN and they're all leftist and wanna run this country into a ground and make a circus out of it, so who cares what anyone who agrees with you they're many like me who know im right and know your wrong which i know your completely wrong on all levels and i don't need to argue each point because you already proved me right. The past gays were known as rare regardless if someone was CLOSTED they didn't speak out so lets compare that to a trans racial person, they are closted about what color they truly think they are so it's rare to you but there are tons of people who think that way just look at Racheal Dolezeal she has encouraged many transracial to come out even Bruce Jenner supported her, because they're alike but here you are proving my point that no way they're MENTAL and not the same but they're infact veri similar in many ways so if you call that mental you're callings Transgenders and Gays mental, what part are you not seeing?
@redvelvetcx Oh that's right you don't wanna see because your a hypocrite who chooses to be IGNORANT and not open your eyes, Angels struck Gays blind its the story of Soddomon and Gamorrah and created HIV as a punishment to the gay community, their is nothing clean about putting your thing in a butt and Women can't do anything but kiss and lick and rub eachother it isn't even sex its foreplay for lesbians so it isn't even taken serious and transgenders are just confused all these people are confused because they allowed demons to fill there heads with lies and confuse them but see if people like me tell you that you think we're crazy but its the obvious truth, Lucifer hates humans what best way to destroy his creation by making it hate its self and make the same gender like eachother, population control because only a man and women can make kids, why is that because its NATURAL HUMAN evolution which is TRUE SCIENCE & you know it. You just pull your sympathy card for these people because they say they can't change, there's a cure out there for everything hopefully the LGBT community finds it one day, we only use 10% of our brains they should have a way to fix the other part so it can be repaired.
You’re proving me right again. It’s called gender dysphoria and there’s no such thing as racial dystopia because nobody is born in a brain of a certain race. Nobody is closeted. Gender dysphoria was discovered before it was accepted by the amount of people like it is now. Transgender people and gay people ALWAYS existed but the people you are making comparisons of didn’t. It’s called a fucking coincidence, straight people get stds too and stds only happen when you have sex with someone that has one, it doesn’t automatically happen from having sex with a man. MANY gay people don’t have stds. Again that’s like a racist person talking about some black people being criminals. Lesbians can have sex, their vaginas can press against each other and give them an orgasm. Homosexuality is in animals and even homosexual adopting in animals exist. It just takes a male and female to create an offspring but that doesn’t mean shit. Science shows that transgenderism is a biological cause. So therefore it is al NATURAL and you KNOW it. You are being off topic again and not responding to any of my arguments. I don’t pull sympathy, it’s called being smart.
I hope you never have a gay or transgender kid. Be aware that it might happen to you someday. It doesn’t matter how much you raise your child against it, it could still happen because it has nothing to do with how they are raised. It’s how they are born. That’s why it is extremely common for a homophobic or transphobic person to have a gay or transgender kid. You can’t prevent it so good luck.
I am literally giving an argument and all you are doing is saying a bunch of random bullshit. I refuse to waste my time on this anymore. I refuse to argue with someone who is not even paying attention, is not educated enough to have an opinion, thinks religion over science, ignoring literally every thing thing I say. It is pointless speaking to you. You know that I am right.
“You don’t want to see anything because you’re a hypocrite that who chooses to be ignorant” look who is talking.. “hypocrite“ LMAOOOOOOOOO
You’re so ignorant, I wonder what other stupid shit you believe. Because you are clearly ignorant in other ways too, that’s why I can’t take you seriously.
I’m done arguing with you so don’t even respond because I won’t see the reply because I’m blocking you. I refuse to waste my time arguing with an idiot that is not even bothering to write out an actual argument and is ignoring nearly everything I say. Im going to sleep and I’m not arguing with you in the morning. Only a loser would argue with someone like you for that long. You already proved right so I already won.
@redvelvetcx i win once again your a strong hypocrite i already said what i said and u keep repeating yourself over and over trying to say blah blah but it still connects to trans racial and there's nada you can do about it haha so go ahead block. the truth you hate but in reality you can't block it because the truth never fails
The point she is trying to make is that male and female brains are made differently but brains of people of all color are not. It’s not matter of opinion, its just a fact. The brain that a black person is born with is no different than the brain that a white person is born with but the brain that a male is born with works differently than the brain that a female is born with. These are facts that have nothing to do with gender dysphoria.
Gender dysphoria is when a female is born in the brain of a male or when a male is born in the brain of a female
@Lynn2001 they're not facts its made up science years ago they said the same about female and male brains as your saying now, now your calling it fact because science wants to acknowledge so why won't science acknowledge trans racial yet like Racheal Dolzeal? You know why because its the same thing its mental and you know it, it's not real
That’s actually not true. They never said that female and male brains were made exactly the same.
And no she is not mentally ill, it’s just something she genuinely chose.
Also, like I said, these are facts that never had anything to do with gender dysphoria. But you will just keep denying it anyways so it doesn’t matter lol
@Lynn2001 they said that gays & trans were mental disabilities suffering from mental illness and would throw people with that mindset in asylum and shock therapy back then yes they did, go look it up it was a mental illness because that's what science said then when more people came out all of a sudden it has a label called gender dysphoria and people support it because "science said so" hahaha what a load of bull i guess if science says the dun being out. During day is night and having a sun during the night was the day you would beleive that too cause science said, but here you're defending the lgbt trans but you will discriminate agaisnt a group of trans racial people who are exactly the same brains born in the wrong body but to you thats opinion and nit fact because science doesn't say so yet, so in turn that makes you full of contradiction and a big hypocrite
Dude you don’t get it😂 first of all, almost everything got classified as a mental illness back then, such as people who were only experiencing postpartum depression for a short amount of time were diagnosed with having chronic depression and there were people doctors were cut open inside people’s brains to try to fix a mental illness (nothing gay or transgender related). Not only that, but it had to do with how homophobic and transphobic the government was and the therapy also showed to never work. Secondly, I just said that there are studies that show that male and female brains are made differently and those studies have nothing to do with transgenderism. Science never said that male and female me mentalities were designed the same. You also don’t know what you’re talking about, that is all entirely false. Gender dysphoria was discovered before open transgenderism even became common. 😂Science and doctors have supported it for decades and witnessed it in adults and kids. It is a brain imbalance that starts during childhood. THEY discovered it. Many people with gender dysphoria start experiencing it at three years old before they even know what they are experiencing. It has to do with the BRAIN. Doctors and scientists found that the best treatment is for them to transition. And again, the studies that males and females mentalities are designed differently and the science studies that the race doesn’t affect the mentality has nothing to do with transgenderism.
You can argue that it’s a mental illness and that it should be treated differently but you can’t deny the facts about it
Scientists*
And by the way they discovered gender dysphoria in people who were not even out as transgender and some who didn’t even know what transgenderism was, if that was not already obvious enough for you
And no they do not let children transition. Kids are made to wait until they are old enough
If a child experiences experienced significant distress for at least six months, they can be diagnosed with gender dysphoria
Here’s a better way to explain that.
Gender dysphoria of childhood is not a surgical diagnosis. It is a medical diagnosis that does not require treatment, other than possibly individual or family therapy, until a child reaches puberty.
@Lynn2001 lol you're a 2000 baby thats why you think your right and everything your saying is for the same defense as for trans racial people what part of that do you. not see you're a big hypocrite, why don't you see that you're choosing to ne blinr to everything your saying matches with trans racial it's literally all. the same thing bur you're choosing to dismiss the other and the reason you're doing that is because you know its a mental. illness and still os to this day just with labels put on it and your basically admit that i think you're red velvet on another acc because u sure write me mad essays like her and everything as if another acc is gonna make. me. change my mind about what im clearly right about while you sit here in contradiction and dismiss the truth you wanna be blind too
You sure seem like a 2007 baby because of how you talk. I’m not redvelvet and having an argument is not being mad😂 and you clearly are lying because if you knew you were right, you wouldn’t ignore the facts I mentioned but ok 👌🏻
@Lynn2001 your facts are made up scientific facts that nobody will eat up but sheep like you that when the master and media says JUMP you JUMP becauee you need to. E herded and believe anything because it suits you but all the smart people of my generation and much older who aren't brainwashed by the dozens all know the truth and know damn well thats made up and not facts because how can science claim one minute it's a mental illness then the NEXT a few decades later that it's "gender dysphoria" becauee it became common just like marijuana one minute its a drug controlled substance and the NEXR a few decades later it's about to become LEGAL in the UNITED STATES completely in 2021 because all of sudden science says its ok so its the same argument with trans racial once the herder scientist you wanna listen to deems trans racial a racial dysphoria as normal then what will you say it's mental right? And if you call that mental and. Not a thing then you're saying trans. & gays are mental hahahaha like their is literally no other argument you're doing this to yourself i can. literally continue to make this point and be right and you keep pretending your not contradicting yourself when you are and yes you clearly are redvelvet and had to make a whole new acc just to come back and try to out do me because u are so upset im smarter then you lol srsly bro?
Sometimes I wonder if the reason you’re taking hours to reply is because you’re thinking what to say
So the facts that have nothing to do with gender dysphoria and have always said what they said are made up science? Yeah ok. You are obviously dumb and you didn’t skipped through what I said. Gender dysphoria was supported and discovered for decades, before you were born
And you skipped through*
And actually it started in your generation. Not mine lmao.
And remember, older generations support racism. Think about that.
Lemme guess. You think “acting black” is a thing, huh? Well guess what, “acting black” wasn’t a thing until black people were send to be force to live in poverty and that’s why they commonly became ghetto. Has nothing to do with how their brain is biologically made. Black people who act proper are not acting white and white people that act ghetto are not acting black. Black people are not designed to be ghetto and if you met a black person from Africa, they won’t act anything like that.
@Lynn2001 proof it was discovered before i was born? Yeah it WAS not lol its a thing now cause there's too MANY so scientist make it up like they make a lot of stuff up, and you won't answer my questions when they make racial dysphoria a thing soon like Racheal Dolezeal and people many others like her then what will you say? And you sound just like red velevet just switch back to ur main acc its ridiculous ur pretending to be someone else and im sorry i don't reply to you im sorry i have a LIFE something you should get too then if ur thats worried about my responses bro
It was discovered in 1980, look it up. I already told you that it was discovered before it became common. Doctors and scientists discovered it in people that didn’t even know what being transgender was. The fact that you’re not paying attention shows that you know I’m right😂 I’m not the other person and I said I wonder, not that I knew for sure, most people on this site don’t take that long so I was just wondering
@Lynn2001 also look up Racheal Dolezeal she is actually trans racial and told everyone she was black and was the leader of NAACP you were probably a kid when she got exposed as a white girl from Montana but she was considered to be black and adopted black children and she pushed a trans racial agenda and many came out to be like her it got so big even bruce jenner supported her on twitter cause she blew up the internet it is a THING and has nothing to do with being ghetto ahe wasn't ghetto i am black as well it has nothing to do with being ghetto if u must know im mixed if my avatar didn't tell you that
Again, the brain that a black person is born with is not made differently than the brain that a white person is born with. So it would be physically impossible for that to happen with race. These are facts that have nothing to do with gender dysphoria. You should really get educated on something before your run your mouth, you sound dumber than an uneducated pro life that thinks abortions only happen from people that have unprotected sex
And she was identifying in black culture and the image. Nothing to do with the brain. Also, fuck Caitlin Jenner. Nobody likes her and she’s not a good representation of transgenders
@Lynn2001 NO she was NOT identifying in the black culture u are literally making up excuses for everything she says she is BLACK and says she wasn't meant to be born whitenin the wrong BODY the literslly same thing and she's not the ONLY one to think that way so when scientist say trans racial is Racial Dysohoria then what will happen, what will you say? https://youtu.be/3B24Bbsf3U4
“The way in which people compare how Rachel Dolezal identified as black and then was revealed to be of European descent to how transgender women are “really” men pretending to be women reveals the enormous bigotry that many cisgender people have against trans people, more than anything else about race or gender. Some people are willing to make any negative comparison – no matter how far-fetched – to discredit and shame us trans women.
The fundamental difference between Dolezal’s actions and trans people’s is that her decision to identify as black was an active choice, whereas transgender people’s decision to transition is almost always involuntary. Transitioning is the product of a fundamental aspect of our humanity – gender – being foisted upon us over and over again from the time of our birth in a manner inconsistent with our own experience of our genders. Doctors don’t announce our race or color when we are born; they announce our gender. People who are alienated from their presumed gender and define themselves according to another gender have existed since earliest recorded history; race is a medieval European invention. Thus, Dolezal identified as black, but I am a woman, and other trans people are the gender they feel themselves to be.” It won’t let me attach the link but here are the sources
I know she’s not the only one. I’ve known of people like that and it’s NOT real. It’s an active choice that people make
“Dolezal might feel an enormous affinity to blackness – so much that she decided to identify as black – but her decision to occupy that identity is one that was forged through her exposure to black culture, not a fundamental attribute of her existence. Someone’s racial identification isn’t automatically less important than their gender in an American context, given our tumultuous history and the ways in which society’s perceptions of both either privilege or restrict one’s economic and social opportunities and mobility. But someone who crosses racial boundaries from a privileged one to a marginalized one is much more likely to do so for political purposes (as Dolezal seems to have done) or to profit from minority culture (as we’ve seen time and time again with white artists, like Iggy Azalea, appropriating black culture). Transitioning doesn’t often benefit trans people politically or financially; it benefits us because it is a way to begin to make our external presentation match our internal perceptions of ourselves, even as it is likely to disprivilege us socially and economically.”
@Lynn2001 you're a BIG hypocrite and you can't even see it i asked ypu when did gender dysphoria become a thing you chose to not answer so i did it for you because you claimed it was made so long before i was born which is anlie scientist changed the term from a physiological condition in 1980 here. "The condition was renamed to remove the stigma associated with the term disorder" because it was known as a disorder and sense then a lot came out claiming to be trans so they changed it because they could not keep calling those people crazy because there were loads so they decided to accept it by throwing a label on it because it was a DISORDER lol literally such a hypocrite it's the same thing and u are using the sane excuse people made years ago about trans and when you dismiss one thing thats the same you are calling trans the same thing. Its NOT farfetched and you know im SMARTER then you admit it. You're full of contradiction amd those people will soon have a label so when they fo answer my question what will you say? Hmmmmmm
I literally told you that it was discovered in 1980 but I guess you weren’t paying attention
And they gave it a name because they were seeing what it was. They noticed it in CHILDREN, they noticed it in people who didn’t know what transgenderism was... but you don’t comprehend what you read
I am saying that it has to do with the mentality, which race does not. Nobody used the “same excuse”
You’re literally not paying attention to anything I said
It originally named as gender identity disorder then they changed it to gender dysphoria. Yes it’s a disorder but not a mental illness.
@Lynn2001 https://youtu.be/HsFG2nWomFY trans racial is becoming a big thing and soo. It will have a label like trans did so answer my question what will you do. when scientist give it a label and disorder is a mental. illness look it up again im smarter then you just get over it i think you hate having to acknowledge im a genius and your not
Again, there is a difference between identifying in the culture and/or image than actually being born like that. Transgender has to do with the mentality. Like I said the make and female differences are are studies hat have nothing to do with gender dysphoria.
Disorder and mental illness do not mean the same thing. There are a lot of disorder that are not considered mental illnesses
And if you’re smarter than me than how comes you lack at grammar at the age you are?
@Lynn2001 their is no difference a woman says she's a man. A Man says he's a woman. A White Person says they're Hispanic, Black Person say's they're Asian, Asian says they're white all say the same thing born in the wrong body abd both want to be accepted as who they REALLY are so a man wants us to call them a she and a black person wants us to call him Asian. What's the difference? You're claiming its culture when i gave you 100% proof that its not culture it's them seeing themselves in that race. I've told you its a thing you can google it, i told you they're many growing Racheal Dolezeal was the first to really come out and was a NAACP chapter leader & adopted black kids and claims them as her own and she's a real black mother abd wants to be seen as that. Where is the difference? Its not a culture thing and that's where you contradict yourself you can't say one thing is right and dismiss the other that's why there is a group called LGBTQ+ do you know why because none of them could say dismiss eachother because they were all the same thing. One can't be BI and dismiss gays abd one can't be lesbian and dissmiss gays and ine can't be a tranny and dimiss all so they formed a group so they won't be dismissed and what ARE YOU DOING? I know DISMISSING why? Cause your a BIG HYPOCRITE who knows im right but just doesn't wanna admit it like a typical 2000 baby and that's why your amusing
@Lynn2001 grammer has nothing to do with the extreme knowledge i posses over you
Again, you keep ignoring the facts that male and female brains have differences.
Racheal personally WAS identifying in black culture. And race is just what you look like... literally nothing else. It doesn’t affect your brain. LGBTQ+ acceptance started in your generation, not mine. My sister is in your generation, it started in yours. I was raised by two straight people that believe in equal tights and they were actually from a hateful generation. Don’t forget that racism was normalized too.
You don’t have more knowledge than me, you keep ignoring the facts about gender brain differences and grammar doe she to do with that. You can’t be a whole ass adult and expect people to take you seriously if you don’t know any grammar
Does have*
@Lynn2001 DO. Not tell me racism is like The gays struggle if you do that i will school you so bad. We are humans nit seen as people with a mental condition and thought process it was a HUMAN RIGHTS issue not a MENTAL problem lol i can respect you know history about blacks and people of color and the affects of racism that made us seen for how we are but soddomon and gamorrah is wrong, trans groups are wrong being HUMAN abd seen as ONE is correct! Lol
First of all, all I said was that racism was also normalized back in the day. I did not say that.
Racism was also normalized so you gonna take a time like that serous? Huh, Gary?
And homophobia is similar to racism. The differences is that people automatically know that you’re black when they see you and you have a history of being slaves. Don’t forget that there are gay black people and gay black people commonly experience it worse than gay people of other races do.
@Lynn2001 look i know your red velvet, same argument. Same typing patterns, same insults, Racism was never normalized thats why we had a civil war, then they abolished segregation now systemic racism exist in some areas still but not everyone thought racism was ok but the weirdo south and pockets of other weird areas. Why would you make another acc to try to prove ur point lol?
I am not red velvet and this is not a new account, I’ve had this account for a long time. Lemme try to attach links of posts I’ve commented on before.
“Racism was never normalized” I’ve never heard a black persons say that before
@Lynn2001 homophobia abd racism is nothing alike lol you hella trippin now im about to school please don't make me do this abd who is Gary the dude who git shot by the cops haha Gary from Spongebob hahaha
Racism was normalized 50 ass years ago and people were still racist after slavery and segregation and people still are racist. Why do you think black lives matter exists?
Gary is the male version of Karen
It refers to the personality type that middle aged people typically have
@Lynn2001 black lives matter is fake organization. Same as the NAACP tge last real black organization was the Black Panthers they were deemed terrorist and were killed, arrested or homeless now because they were black balled so anything else is to push a agenda and to make blacks feel empowered explain why its only called BLM in todays society? To piss off dixiecrats and other races to make us look selfish why not say to stop killing our people and others? It's all too keep people divided and agaisnt eachother were alll humans so we must abolish racist and come together as humans not segregate eachother with these labels in 2020
Something tells me you only care about racism when people compare it to homophobia. You seem like you must be racist against your own race. You telling me that white privileges don’t exist? It is literally so fucking obvious. I don’t think I can take you seriously now that you appear to be a black racist (to your own race)
Compare isn’t the right word, but when people talk about them being similar. Whatever I just lost it, you don’t even support your own equal rights😂
And how was racism NEVER normalized?
@Lynn2001 white privledge does exist i am telling you the US deemed Black Panthers as terroist that racist of our government to do and they were the last real organization to exist that were for blacks the others are fake NAACP is fake, BLM ks fake how does that make me white or think im white how does me having that knowledge make me racist towards my people? Whaat? No i know everything there is to know about our history i know US. History to a T, you don't wanna debate me there homphobia has nothing to do with racism and it isn't close Race = a human thing that defines your skin shade which is a human right to be treated like another human of another shade not a mental disorder nothing is the same and you're red velevt cause you're saying the same stuff the fact you keep denying it is actually pretty sick and maybe a personality disorder? I don't know u kinda scare me at this point
I am not red velvet and go take a look at my profile where it shows the posts I have commented on. Some of it is from months ago which proves this is not a new account I recently made. Now if you want to know my account that I actively use, that would be the @lynn20012019. I check this account every few months and I happen to see this post and saw your comment and wanted to clarify what she was trying to say because it seemed like you were misunderstanding her. Just because I have used some of the same argument doesn’t mean we’re the same person. If you take a bigger look, she made several paragraphs and used different wording than I did
And BLM is not fake. Black people’s lives are literally at risk and are more likely to be suspected at police.
Yes there has been some thing have went wrong in the movement lately but that doesn’t represent it overall
@Lynn2001 being black we always had issues in the US what are you saying im fighting against i use to live in a racist area and moved to a whole nother state where i live just fine and don't deal with racist ever or see any lol what ru smoking Black Lives matter was a group created agaisnt police brutality but there fake just like tye NAACP every REAL BLACK leader is dead the last group was the Black Panther Party and leader Huey was killed. They created abd turned Community revolution in progress C. R. I. P. S an extension to BPP. Into a gang with drugs that were thrown in there community abd made the poor blacks and mexicans fight over it for money. While racist corrupt police beat and killed us so tell me if every black leader like Malcolm X and MLK were killed and Huey from BPP what makes you think these new movements are real? They're not they're controlled to keep blacks in line and to make us think we have a voice. You think i don't know what i am faced with in the US? I live it you don't so dont worry about it i an entitled to my own opinions im not a sheep like you i know the truth lol
Yeah and police brutality often involved that shit. You also said that racism was NEVER normalized which clearly is not true. I love how we’re having a completely different conversation now LMAO
@Lynn2001 you mistook what i said completely racism was not NORMALIZED as in it wasn't seen as normal it was treated as such but it wasn't normalized thats why we had a civil war to abolish slavery once a cotton gin was invented by the British so there were no reason for slaves in the US then we had segregation removed in the 60's it wasn't normalized like gays and trans are it has alwaya been wrong and frowned upon but many in the US dealt with it until more people spoke out to help get rid of it, you're a 2000 baby you know nothing
I didn’t say that everybody supported racism, I just said that it was normalized by many people.
@Lynn2001 can you like stop flirting with me i understand your in love with me and your red velvet but you creep me out cause u pretend to be others with diff accs & your a 2000 baby and im not into that.
Flirting? Bruh, is that all you could think to say? 😂
I pretend to be others? Who am I pretending to be? I’m not her but whatever you say😂
@Lynn2001 you are her and ur not tricking me anyone who reads everything you sY could easily tell that easily also u are flirting with me saying you like how we are talking about something else two flirty key words "like" & "LMAO" like we're bonding and vibing you seen mean girls right? Well like Regina George said FETCH ain't happening!
It’s called sarcasm dude. I said, I like how we’re having a completely different conversation. You keep jumping from one thing to the next. How is that and “lmao” flirting? I say lmao to everybody 😂
I never seen anyone call that “flirting” before
@Lynn2001 i can analyze anything because im a genius and you need to chill and you keep typing like red velvet, same age, same type of typing patterns, same everything and that creeps me out cause its CLEARLY YOU
You’re not a genius. Mentioning how strange it is how the subject is changing and saying lmao is not flirting. Why would I flirt with a hateful Christian that can’t even spell? You’re just trying to find things to say to make yourself feel better, and we’re having a different conversation again😂 that really shows how smart you are
You seem to over exaggerate things, A LOT
@Lynn2001 look im not intersted so chill out you keep coming back for more you blocked ne on ur first acc in ur feelings then made another to come back im not into strange 2000 babies so give it up bro
I was never interested in you anyways. If that’s flirting than I guess I flirt with everybody
And I am not that same person but ok believe what you want
I’m out. ✌🏻
@Lynn2001 you're the exact same person but anyway its creepy so dip
No no really cared or cares.
I would just come out. Fuck what they might think
Or you can wait when you’re a bit older. Whatever you think is best
Well wait till you are a bit older
Just come out.
Scissoring sucks.
That's cute but you think we scissors 😂
What do you do? I’m curious.
Yes, but maybe later