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I agree. I’m in high school right now, but I haven’t had the chance to go in person yet because of Covid and everything so I’ll share my experience in middle school when I was actually in person.
I was never popular at my school, and I did “care” about being popular around 6th grade but luckily that soon ended very shortly after me meeting my best friends and luckily forming a personality that was outside of popular trends. During 6th grade a lot of stuff happened to me so my personality really changed, for what I see as the better even though it took a while for me to come to terms with that.
In my first year of middle school, I was targeted by the “queen bee” (basically whatever the most popular girl in school is) and she was popular mainly because she got into a lot of trouble (OSS/ISS) for disrespecting teachers and students. She began targeting me because this other popular girl at my school for whatever reason had a grudge against me and took her time to photoshop a dm I sent in a school gc on snap and edited it to make it look like I said I wanted to fight the most popular girl.
(at the time I didn’t have my growth spurt yet so I was around 4”10 and quit skinny at around 90lbs where as on the other hand the most popular girl was really tall for a 6th grader. Most of the middle schoolers still looked like elementary schoolers, but she could definitely pass for one of the 8th graders. ) so since she had 2 of my academics and I shared most of my connections classes (connection classes are basically: gym, orchestra, art, etc) I had to deal with her saying stuff to me all the time and I’d ignore her but obviously give her a dirty look because of being so tired of her bs.
Towards the middle of the school year, she actually apologize after a rumor spread in school about her being scared of me (supposedly because of how scary my glares where) which, I’m guessing makes a little sense since i get told I have a scary annoyed bitch face. And I’ve dealt with more popular girls like that but talking about it would be a whole story time, so I won’t. But the person I honestly still dislike till this day isn’t the girl that got mad at me and wanted to fight me. It was the girl that started it all, just because she was bored and wanted to start drama. I hate the type of popular girls that just do stuff to start drama, genuinely disgusting people, I’ve never had good conversations with any girls like this. They’re extremely two faced, usually rich or upper middle classed so they have that ignorance and extra bitchyness that comes from that privilege.
What you said when why it changed, the finding your friends part. That's exactly it. Having real true friends is way better than popularity.
There are many reasons. They like the attention. They feel worthless. They are shallow. They want to be special. They feel as if it will give them a higher status. They want to be liked. Or they just want to be included and accepted.
Being popular isn't a bad thing. It's what they want, there is nothing wrong with that. More power to em. Let them figure out on their own that it's not what it's cracked up to be. They would never know if it was or wasn't for them if they don't try.
For me personally, I don't aspire to be popular. Just noticed enough to bring the right kind of people my way.
Well said
Something that is going overlooked in the responses.
We may very well be attention seeking/approval seeking/validation seeking creatures because it has been instilled as a drive in us through evolution.
It's not just humans who seek popularity. Other trooping primates do so as well. They kill to get it, sometimes. Why is that? Is it because they've bought into messages sent in their movies and other media? Has their culture just invented this love of popularity?
I doubt it. More likely the explanation is that it's a survival tactic. Popular primates have more resources to draw upon than others. More primates will groom them. More primates will care for them if they're sick and injured. They will have a wider selection of mates to pass on their genes. Etc. Because of this, a drive to be popular amongst one's troop has been instilled in primates' lineage. Those that sought it, survived better and had more offspring. Those that didn't seek it, didn't.
Why should humans be any different from virtually all other primates? We're not.
A drive to be popular is quite likely an instinct in all of us driven through and strengthened by millions of years of human evolution. Including, in all likelihood, many of those who are loudly proclaiming how they don't wish to be popular. Would they *really* feel that way if they were *actually* at the apex of popularity (yes, a reference to the Broadway Mean Girls... since you included a Mean Girls meme here)?
I'm frankly surprised no one has touched on this, at least as of the time I'm writing this response.
Because we as humans are social creatures. We thrive off connection, shared values and perceptions of the world around us and surviving with pack mentality.
To be a part of the "pack" you need to follow the trends, share the majority of morals and be likable/liked. That gives the individuals social proof and demonstrates value to others around them. People want to be loved, respected, acknowledged and accepted. Being popular puts you in the spotlight and gives one that validation and gives them that sense of being "I'm here. I am loved. I am happy and enjoy this."
Being popular comes with a wave of power and influence which people like (some more than others which is a whole different can of worms.) To put it simply, I think it stems from a subconscious need and desire as humans to have what I stated above. If you don't seek it, you are viewed as lesser and not worth the time because you are not at their level and that makes you and outsider and low value. The drawback to this is that conforming to everything to be popular, you sacrifice your individuality and uniqueness. I prefer those that don't seek to be popular because I find them more authentic regardless of their personality and attitude.
Authenticity will ways win over another cardboard cut out.
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I know a very good looking guy who used to have an amazing career and many high status friends and when he got sick both his wife and friends and a lot of his family dropped him, he is now married to his new wife and only talks to one of his brothers regularly and has a few friends out of the many he used to have and he cares for his parents when he can. Popularity is not real - those people do not actually love each other.
Isn't that the truth
It feels good to be liked, appreciated, respected, even admired, but only if it's for good reasons.
It's nice to have friends.
It's a;so great to be held in high regard by people I admire and have great respect for.
I have to say that I feel on top of the world when an audience applauds my music and people come up later to say how much they enjoyed it. It's not about being popular, though. It's more about feeling that I did something well. Not that I play much these days.
But I'm not concerned about winning popularity contests. I don't dress to impress. I have no desire to seek affirmation on social media for superficial stuff like looks. I don't measure my popularity by numbers of followers.
Exactly! To me being will liked and popularity aren't the same thing. Nother great answer🥶🥶😃
A lot of people see being popular as the only way to attract the person they desire most. In fact, popularity is more of a turn off; it blocks your main interest from being able to get close.
I personally do not try to be popular, bur rather friendly, and honest. Because I am friendly, many may see me as popular, but I will never hang out with a large group, and be the center of attention. Because of that, I have those of interest who will approach me, as they see me as approachable.
Being popular is not everything people make it to be!!!
Exactly!
Honestly the popular kids don't really have any real true friends , They ither talk behind their friends back , Competition who wears the best clothes who dresses well who has the hottest boyfriend. Once the popular kid graduates high school they're history that's it. I remember this one girl her name was Britney Evely she was cheer captain only because her mom was one of the principals and her dad was a very important guy he own Petroleum Company , Yeah every guy wish to date her. I was never interested in the whole being popular thing. As long as I had real friends and accept me for who I am , I was great full.
Exactly!!! Exactly what you said and exactly the point!!!
Attention seeking to hide their insecurity.
then when they are in the popularity spotlight, they become addicted to it, and keep trying to remain their.
the fall is often fatal for some, as can be seen by all the Celebs that unfortunately take their own lives or end up in rehab after major addiction issues.
So so true!!
That's actually practical. I've gotten so much through popularity like free dinners at an oyster bar which would have otherwise cost me $2000+ USD, VIP for free in clubs of which I must have used over $10k, free drinks, free food, job offers, etc. Popularity is very useful, like money. Both are superficial but they're useful.
Not always
I never reached celebrity-level popularity though and do not wish it. Too much of anything goes towards bad. Celebrities have the worst lives ever. They get no privacy and everyone wants to talk to them, and worst of all, if they make an ass of themselves even one time, they have a huge PR problem. I do not admire celebrities. But the kind of popularity I'm talking about is like connections. It is good to have connections. It is more like who you know that gives you opportunities than what you know. Being a social butterfly can offer unbelievable rewards.
I got an extroverted bias but I don't see a practical difference in terms of improving our lives between cultivating popularity vs. intellect, for example. Being very intelligent without popularity can be so lonely. Actually, it's extra lonely with the intellect in my experience because intelligent people tend to question things more. But popularity can get you free drinks, free food, it can make you an honored guest, it can make you the most desirable friend, date. I always wanted the latter more than the former. The former is very lonely.
You're missing the in between. There's a difference between popularity and being well-liked. Not everyone who wouldn't be considered popular has no friends or is lonely. Popularity a lot of times can make people envious. Or people that try to be their friend just because of popularity but then that's not real friendship
I can engage in your way though. You sound like a sweetheart to me, and I am not being the slightest bit sarcastic. I think you give the best hugs in the world. But I can't change the world to put you on a throne, for example, if I can't win the popular vote. How am I supposed to be powerful if I got no popularity? And how am I supposed to do good if I got no power?
No idea but I guess it means nothing because they are the ones with the most issues. For example if your just normal you have a stable group of friends and a normal life but when popular they are so toxic with friends and always worry about what they do and look like. So as you could probably tell I don't like the idea of schools having a social hierarchy but its just a bunch of rich kids who look down on everyone else.
I agree... Popular and we'll liked our loved isn't always the same thing...
When you find out, let me know!
Perhaps our society has fallen so far away from basic values of self, family, self-independence, critical thinking, industriousness, etc. that most people are now just mindless oafs/lemmings/sheeple who need SOME sort- ANY sort- of "recognition" to think that they are popular or accepted in our increasingly superficially-thinking society. But, that's just a wild guess - - - - - - - narrfff.
No that's a hit it out of the ballpark answer❤️👍💯
That's my one for the year, I guess. - - - -
Not true you always have great answers👍
I think its bc they think it will get them somewhere. I mean look at the presidency. They go on campaign to get as many people to vote aka like them so they can a really good job. Money and power. They're greedy. I don't care about popularity I'm here to share my honest opinion.
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I think people WANT to be popular because they like attention. They love attention and approval from others. I'm a singer so I'm not trying to brag but I'm a little popular. And I don't really seek attention from others even though I get it and I would totally be OKAY with no attention and no popularity at all. But the wanna bes just love the attention.
I agree. It's usually the people that don't get attention or feel they should get more that seek it, and the ones that don't like or want that attention that get it... maybe because they're not trying to be a certain way to get attention and natural is always more appealing than contrived
True
I'm mostly happy to have good friends by my side, I could less if I was popular. I think it just has to do with insecurity maybe and feeling like they aren't good enough so they need to be popular and have all the attention on them in order to feel validated.
Right!!! So true
Actually that is easy,
When you were a kid it was to make friends.
As an adult it is for a partner, promotion, job, help from, coworkers to do your job. Best spots when you go somewhere, e. g best table in place, or no waiting list. When your popular as an adult people just do stuff for you. You dont have to be the dude thst wears the best clothes or items to be popular at work. You can be charming, be helpful to your co-workers, courteous, donuts.
I can keep going, not everything is vanity or selfish related. Even being popular can help me with honeybees.
For those People it is all they have.
When they are like that in highschool or even earlier they most Likely end up as lonely miserable drug addicts.
Or they end up working for the guy/girl that got bullied by these "populair kids"
Right!
Drama, attention seeking, keeping up with the Joneses, various things but definitely not for me I'm no material girl either you like what you see or don't bother me plan & simple ✌️
Right!!!
Excellent question 😊
Thanks! I just see so many young people that strive for popularity and the things they'll do or give up for something they find out isn't all it's portrayed to be... Especially these young girls that think they have to bare all on the internet for likes or popularity.
Girls have so much competition these days programmed
Back in the day it was simple maybe a magazine but nothing what it's like today I wish the young ladies would just get the message be yourself, less competition, eating disorders,& whatever else, I miss the yesteryears ☹️
Oh I hear you. I so miss the way things were "back in the day" to the way they are now...
So much has changed heck you say pay phone & some young ones look at you strange or party line lol 😆 those were the days 😉
Lololol right... Do they even have pay phone anymore🤔
I've seen some but they've been gutted just a hollow shell sad they should bring them back just in case you never know
@Brainsbeforebeauty
This is one of the channels I follow on YouTube the reason why I'm sharing it's so weird they're showing a working pay phone wow 🤯
https://youtu.be/Lif2oZplx1w
to them, "popularity" means they know what they are doing, they are in control, and good role models. And being "popular" is something which they equate to be someone or something to look up to, even if its a cult.
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Downrate in 3..2..1 AND GO! Everytime you say that, I have to stop my smartass nature had to stop myself from downvoting you🤣🤣🤣
@Brainsbeforebeauty LOL.. you know and I know there are asshole Karens on here who are so triggered
Because it helps you to feel better. To feel important and significant, to feel appreciated. Something like that 🤔
That should come from real people in your life... There's a difference between well liked/respected and popular...
I am popular with all my friends.
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Well, when you were young, wasn't it important to you?
It was too me. I kept thinking about how cool it would be. Then when I got older, I could care less.
Never gave a fuck
No it never really was... Just being liked by the people I liked was enough. Quality over quantity
Well, I wasn't as mature as you two. I mean, you two did see a lot of kids be overly concerned about what other kids thought, right?
You two watch Pen15 on Hulu? It has this issue down perfectly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFAHiU0g0xQ
@RolandCuthbert
No... my crowed didn’t care either.
We were into Girls, Guitars , Cars and getting high. One person called us Grppies.. Greaser Hippies... We all moved into new homes from another country and we stuck together..
@JamieLoves Oh, you had a crew. You don't think that was similar? I didn't have a crew.
Not similar.. There were the people that thought that they were important and special ! We didn’t have attitudes. We didn’t care about them. Just us..
Because certain individuals do not grow out of their high school mentality. I worked with females around their late 30s who behaved like teenagers gone wild, and also bullied. Even the sweetest one outta the group turned into a "mean girl" because she didn't want to be left out. Like seriously? I was mind blown with that confession.
I would agree...
Because, they have very low IQ’s and do work or will work at McDonald’s..

Hey McDonald's was my first job when I was a teenager🤣
I didn’t mean you!
You’re a sweetheart! 😘
You're good lololol
Because self concepts are partially formed in children based on what other people think of them.
It gives them a good buzz. An ego booster.
With time passage, one needs to learn not to seek approval for that particular buzz.
I agree
Most narcissistic people find it hard to accept that they can't win every contests.
That's true. I don't know why people even have to turn everything into a contest or competition
I know right.
I try to avoid people like that...
I'd a best friend like that in highschool. She could sing and whenever anywhere she didn't get the chance to flaunt, she'd say everyone's jealous of her.
It was awkward for me.
I can imagine it was
"Monkey see, monkey do" I guess. Like if everyones doing it then it must be important... bur I don't always agree with that.
Right! Me either
I would only ever need one person to like me and that would be my S. O. I truly don't care what anyone else thinks.
Right!! Real friends, real love trumps that fake friend popularity crap
They have no heart, or SOUL, and don't know WHO they are, and they need others to VALIDATE their existence!!
That's what I think
Honestly, the less people pay attention to me, the better. Unless it’s for the right reasons, like;
1) They think I’m smart
2) They think I’m awesome
3) They think I’m funny
You seem to be all three 👍 although it's all your fault I bout died at the store when saw PB&J think they were snacks or whatever, don't know just saw the PB on the box and had to walk away🤣🤣
@Brainsbeforebeauty awh! Thank you! You are all three yourself. Oh, and I “might” be a bad influence too. 🤣
You are judged by those you choose to surroubd yourself. If is reassuring that you are attractive and liked.
They say that $75,000 is the most money you czn earn to gain the most happiness that money can give. If you want to increase your happiness after that, only friends and family can help. I have known plrnty of wealthy people, but it is definitely no guarantee of happiness. In fact, I do not believe that thd level of hsppiness through income alone, is not parti ularly high.
I hate popularity contests. They have always disgusted me.
Right!!!
Popularity don't mean shit... look at it this way.. being popular can not even guarantee you being the most powerful man in the free world...
Extrapolate that shit.
Right,!!!
There is also a scale of preference to this, some get addicted to certain trends and want be part of it renownedly. To other kinds of people its a waste of time.
I think it's all a waste of time. Well liked it loved us way better than false popularity
Who doesn't like popularity or a bit of attention.
Depends probably on how ambitious a person is to achieve something that they find worth for themselves
I don’t want or need popularity.
I said like, didn't say want 🤓🤓
But not everyone likes either
Everyone likes popularity, but the degree to which they are ready to be exposed to varies, and popularity could be in anything for example you are popular on Gag and at some level you might feel happy for that or could be in any other scenario
See but you're putting your views on others. Popularity on a website🤷🏼♀️I don't put much stock in that. I don't need to feel popular on a website to feel happy. I feel more happy laughing joking sharing thoughts with some users on here and that's all it is to me. 🤷🏼♀️
Ok ok 🤓
No biggie.. everyone moved on.
Everyone would like to be popular. Some work very hard at not being who they truly are, just to be popular. These folks are searching for acceptance that they are lacking in their lives.
I don't think everyone.. I certainly don't just bring well liked it lived by those that are important to me is enough for me... Quality over quantity in my book
Its a social status thing, u feel like everyone loves u n u have connwctions n ur like celebrity
I just don't get it. Why people let the internet or internet likes matter so much. The things some people do just to get likes it attention.
I guess I'm just old fashioned it's the real relationships in life that matter to me
Oh i answered in a sense that you're popular at school/your workplace. When it comes to online things, i think thats just superficial ego thing where people want to present themselevs like they r living best life as everything seems to be competition, thsts why todays society became so fake
Everyone wants to be popular because popular people get invited to all the good parties and always have boyfriend/girlfriend. They have all the fun.
That's not always true. People just believe it's that way.
In my opinion, that’s how it always has been. Thousands of years ago we didn’t have movies we had storytelling. Many led a rich and well traveled life being a storyteller then because they got to tell tales of hope, justice, revenge, you name it. The stars then were the royals, high commanding units and probably the church. Having people to look up too has always helped humans grow and evolve. It stands till this very day. We need Heros and villains in our life wether to imitate or teach valuable lessons. Now today it’s a little more diluted. People are still as easy to deceive so often times our hero’s are just villains with a PR team.
I've never cared for it but at the same time I won't lie to you and say I don't care what people think of me I do (to a degree and anyone who says otherwise I'm confident is a liar) so naturally I can understand the appeal of being known and liked by other people.
Bring liked and bring popular isn't the same tho... People liking you for you is different than people liking you for your popularity status
*being
Many people derive their self-esteem externally -- a score in a game, money in the bank, approval from others. You'll see this in every human activity. There are people who are happy to just enjoy it, and others who keep score, whether it's wealth, athletic skill, Facebook likes, whatever.
I don't need to be popular, nor do I try. I just want to get through life and leave something for my kids to remember me by.
That's commendable.
Because it's the easiest form of status to attain, and status-seeking is hardwired into our genetics. Look at Mustard.
People were raised to be this way. In a way brainwashed and it becomes a pattern until you free your mind. It's all in what we watch and what we are conditioned to.
Because they are shallow and usually have a low self esteem.
True true!!
Popularity means a lot of people like you, or pretend to.
Yeah see that's just it... It's either the more fake they are or the more fake you gotta be.. And For what? Fake validation🤷🏼♀️ hardly send worth it... Least that's the way I see it
"Insecure men tend to surround themselves with others like them." - Suraya Hawthorne, Destiny 2
It goes the same for women too.
So very true
Um, in High School that was a problem. Do you really see that being an issue as an adult?
I see adults sorry about online popularity (which what is that even lolol) and I see young females do anything to get likes online so yes I do think it's a problem, not for me because I've never got caught up in that nonsense. But it's not just a highschool issue, or you could say some people left highschool but the highschool mentality hasn't left them 🤷🏼♀️
Have no clue. Never understood it myself. I could care less what others think. If im happy and with the right person it diesnt matter how popular we are. I dont care for being put in any popularity with amyone. Im humble and enjoy tge simple things in life.
cuz they're stupid, and don't realize other people are stupid and therefore their opinions don't matter
Haha right! Love that... Define yourself but yourself not by others, anyways but especially by strangers
*by not but
Hubris, Narcissism, low self esteem, materialistic, seeking validation. It happens in high school. In fact, we have a political party that emphasizes a lot on it. The Hollywood crowd. The Democrat party.
🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️ no idea honestly i never followed any popular person on social media...
I think social media popularity is a joke anyways. People take that shit too far and let that shit go to their head. I don't get it🤷🏼♀️
In younger people, fucking the most popular girl or guy is something most aim for. Why? Media, Advertisements, and nowadays, social-the-fuck-media! Once they become wiser, they seek for qualities in the opposite sex.
Gregarious animals care a lot about what other gregarious animals think.
Apparently. The things period do to be liked or Popular..🤷🏼♀️
We all have different things we value.
This is what they value
Because it makes you feel wanted and appraised and really helpful when you need help i tasted popularity once but honestly i am too blunt and honest and i give absolutely zero fucks about other people
Because they are insecure.
They are afraid if they don’t follow the crowd they will look uncool
Right!!!
A person who loves themself so much and had high self esteem likely would not care what other people think
Exactly!!!
Yes. I know I am right on this one
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Funny, junior high/high schoolers go in like ghosts, trying not to be singled out. But being popular is their objective. Maybe because it’s so different?
Because everyone wants to be loved... shallow people think that popularity is enough.
That's a very simplified theory.
I agree with you on this one, Popularity doesn't matter to me, I just want a woman who loves being herself
I did in HS and regret it. I was cool though. Had to maintain that. Lol, stupid.
Makes no sense being popular would annoy me cause then I can't speak my mind
Because we don’t all possess the brains and beauty that you do. Some of still need other people to get ahead in life
You can do that with real friends. Popularity just send so fake or contrived or a constant competition. Real friendships without all that are much better
Right! You couldn't pay me enough to have that job lolol
Same reason why some aliens put so much importance on popularity.
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