Low body count or virgin, feminine, home maker, cooks, wants kids and wants to raise them, humble, will fuck when you desire, disagrees with divorce. Is that appealing to you?
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I suspect there is a third wave feminist or two disliking every comment that wants a trad wife and liking every comment that does not want one. I am not surprised such people are obsessed and need to comb through and mark every comment. Thank you for the responses everyone, I am happy how this question is turning out.
Not quite, I think my future wife must have characteristics that I would prefer in any woman plus more. In order to be wife material in my eyes, compassionate, intelligence, accountability, career or goals, maturity and puts up with my silliness or just as silly as me.
She has to have been independent before she met me so when we do get married that it’s a relationship where we work together. I’m not going to be doing all the heavy lifting, she’s gonna help me take care of the house, bills , etc. I want a partner not dependent. She can cook sometimes and I can cook sometimes ( I’m amazing at breakfast and I like to cook a lot of dishes).
I want her to have the same priorities as me but as long as it doesn’t effect our mutual future of happiness and a lot of fun then I’m good with it
These women are a treasure to have, and are of rare quality. However, today's men have to become a traditional man to want a traditional wife.
This isn't to insult today's women or men, but there's discipline involved when becoming, desiring, pursuing, investing, and maintaining this kind of person. You're not expected to have a perfect life, but you only attract what you are, and the quality of life can change, based on the thoughts you think.
Some men think they want this, but they don’t always understand at what cost it comes with. Having this type of woman requires a man to be high earning, high value, and highly emotionally mature man, which are extremely rare. Most average to upper class men will take advantage of this type of woman, cheat on her, disrespect her, and eventually leave her with nothing once he’s bored. No woman wants to take such a risk.
The risk problem can be solved by choosing a lower class man who better understands the value of such a wife. A high earning man is risky because 1) he is more socially powerful and attractive to other women, so he has more opportunities to cheat, and 2) he may think his wife chose him just because of his wealth, and when a man notices this he loses any respect for the woman.
A wife and children are going to be expensive. If he’s not making 100 k them id say forget the traditional lifestyle, and have the woman go to work because a whole family isn’t going to be comfortable on 60 k unless you live in FarmVille Indiana, and I’ve been there, it’s a boring life.
We have a standard apartment by the beach. And no kids. Neither one of us are interested in the trad life. We really want to get an RV and travel around for a couple years.
Nice points. I do have different opinion on some of this, but I agree being a good man matters a lot. He doesn’t have to be high earning.. my dad was not high earning, my mom did the hardest job ever as a stay at home mom.. of nine kids. We did not have new furniture, fancy cars, lots of activities, etc.. they lived within their means and they put us first and I always had what I needed. They never did welfare or anything either.. just worked hard. People now think they need a whole lot more than they actually need and waiting to get out of school or make money before having kids.. when sacrificing for your kids helps you grow together. I stayed home with my kids.. i was smart and had almost graduated college, but I desired kids more than anything else. It’s not that hard. My husband went to school and I had two kids 18 months apart.. very happy times.. we lived in a tight budget and I cooked everything, sewed, gardened.. it all worked out just fine. Things changed though.. after22. years married.. kids about all grown up.. then abuse started happening, so to be divorced soon. Never saw that coming.. mental disorder or his childhood? I may never know..
If I was going to marry, I would want a mostly traditional wife - the main difference is that, unlike most men, I never wanted children and I knew that at an early age. This makes me the exception to the rule, though, and should be taken as such. Most men who are marriage-minded strongly want (their own) kids.
Unfortunately, my generation was brought up at the peak of Feminism, and girls of my generation were told that being a housewife and mother was a terrible goal - a betrayal of women and of feminism - and the majority were absolutely NOT taught how to be wives, but were taught to be men, and to pursue masculine goals (i. e., career) rather than family - or, they were told that they could "have it all" - but to focus on the career and worry about the family later. As such, 54% of the women of my generation are single, and most desperately want a relationship, but they are so disagreeable and difficult to be around that men don't want them. They may have wanted them in the past, when they were young, and before they had 100+ partners or had someone else's kid, but now? No one wants them.
To be fair, when I was in my 20s, I didn't understand what I was up against or how to navigate it - keep in mind that mine was the FIRST fully "feminist" generation, so things were completely different than previous generations - and it's really only been in the last 15 years that men have figured out what was going on and how to succeed. While I avoided disaster, I also avoided true relationship success during my prime.
Today, men - and even some women - are pushing back, but "feminism" (and it's not really feminism, though that's the name people push their anti-family agenda under) still has a lot of momentum, and the world has never cared much about men's personal problems or relationship issues, so it's going to take a LOT of work and fighting to get things back to a reasonable place - longer than I'll be around, I suspect.
I agree with this completely. Women don't know or want to be women anymore. Most of us anyway. Third wave is particularly man hating more than anything else. Throws away all family values.
That's right - but even more important to understand: it was intentional.
Feminism was taken over by Marxists in the 60s, with the original leaders pushed out if they didn't get on the Marxist bandwagon.
Marxism teaches that democracies cannot be directly converted into Marxist states, so the whole society must be completely destroyed, down to the last brick, before people will accept Marxism. And the nuclear family was (correctly) identified as a source of too much strength to resist Marxism and dependence on the government, so they intentionally set about to destroy the nuclear family. The Feminist movement provided a tool for that, as well as cover to hide the Marxism, but it's all part of the larger Marxist goal.
I should point out there's a distinction between wanting to raise kids, and wanting to raise kids while your partner sits on the couch after work (#boomer couples).
Or liking to to cook, and wanting to cook everyday while your partner stays out at the bar with his coworkers.
I do think most people want the majority of the above, regardless of gender or traditional/modern. Who doesn't want someone humble and ready for seggs whenever you want?
The distinction for me is whether or not people want to take ownership of tasks completely.
Also, How I live in the city, there aren't lawns to mow, gutters to muck (we rent), or big vehicles to fix (biking). So based on the short list of traditional man tasks, it's not really helpful if I'm the only one doing the daily chores that continue to exist (cooking, cleaning, dishes, ).
When we go visit rural areas where he's from its different. I'm much more likely to cook and clean soley. I mow the lawn and chop wood because I think it's fun. I let him do the vehicle stuff and tree felling his parents make him do.
Does the idea of a feminine woman who shares mu values for chastity and family appeal to me? Yea if I wait till marriage so will she or she won't have a ring on it.
If she felt she owed it to me to have sex with me id be very hurt by that I'd think she didn't want me at all.
It takes 2 to make a home instead of just 2ppl in a house. Cleaning, cooking, raising kids, add to that paying bills, being ready to die for them at the drop of a hat so add protection in there, money, security it adds up. But a lot of women complain about the little they should do.
Divorce? At a rate of 65% in this country? 80% of which cases are filed by women. And fathers keep their kids 10% of the time? I'd never sign anything giving anyone that kind of power in my life I'd sooner die.
Explain to me the issue if I her husband. Am the love of her life and she is mine. She wants a clean home, dosnt want her family to starve and desires her husband's attention and affection. Want a family and to raise them to be good people.
Nope. I like women who are bright, witty, perceptive, hard working, ambitious, gentle, compassionate, caring, ethical, feminine, amorous, and sexually uninhibited, but also capable of thinking for themselves. I'm not interested in door mats or Stepford Wives. I do love a woman who is eager and willing to please her man sexually, including blowjobs or letting him use her pussy for an occasional quicky. Of course, that means that he has to be eager and willing to satisfy her sexual needs, as well.
But I don't think either person in a relationship should be the boss. I don't see how one person can dominate the other in a healthy relationship.
People are free to choose their roles in a relationship based on their strengths and preferences. There's nothing at all wrong with a woman who wants to be a housewife and primary care giver for the children. It's okay if the roles are reversed, too.
She was a virgin. She lived at home with her parents and younger sister until we married. She has a master's degree and works 40 hours a week but her family and kids are more important to her than career. She works a relatively normal schedule and isn't pulling 70 hours a week and gone on the time... traveling for work... always on call and having to leave for work at the drop of a hat (like a lawyer or doctor would be).
We have one child so far.
Clubbing, partying, sleeping around was not her thing.
No, I don't want a trophy that does many things either I or a robot can do better, but thanks. :D
And yes, that's what many traditional women end up as. Trophies that do labor the husband "can't" do themselves. For ya morons that go on about that "alpha/beta" bs, a real "alpha" can do whatever work needed whether lawyer, FBI agent, etc, AND can raise kids/clean up after himself if needed. Blunt truth. Only "betas" would struggle to do laundry or change a diaper, especially should something happen to their wife or something.
If I was a guy I would want a wife like that because women these days have gone crazy and busy with all the nonsense the media wants them to believe and do. They have no value of marriage today, nor kids, nor home responsibility or anything. Not to mention many red flags out there.
1. "Low body count or virgin": I dont care about her past sex life, I just want a compatible partner. 2. , "feminine": I like femmenine personalities but I would have been open to something diferent. 3. , "home maker": We both have to help in the home. 4. "cooks": Is a plus but not a must. 5. "wants kids and wants to raise them": I want kids both of us raise I dont want to be absent in my kids life. 6. "humble": nope. 7. "will fuck when you desire": I dont want a girl that just fucks even if she is not in the mood but sexual compatibility is important if I need to have sex 4 times a week I want a couple that wishes the same or similar 8. "disagrees with divorce" the relationship should aim for be for life but if that fail nobody should stay unhappy just because they dont like the idea of divirce.
I admit there are some aspects of what you describe that are appealing but honestly the only one on your list that I would consider a priority would be the having kids part. I'd hope she'd want them. I'm also not a fan of divorce. But the rest I don't have strong feelings about. And I'm probably a better cook than she is.
In today’s crazy world, a traditional wife is rare gem to find, supportive, stable, dutiful, it’s just perfect to be married to girl like that, but today’s environment doesn’t produce men that take marriage as seriously as in the past, and women are out of control entitled and degenerate as well, so they only exist in Muslim and Asian countries where societal norms are still strong there
I would consider my wife and myself as "traditional", but not in the way you emphacized it.
- First of all, I am the cook in our household 😁 - We both have a very low "bodycount" - we get "cuddly" when we are both in the mood and the moment is right. - forgot the rest of your criteria...
Well i'd be damned if i was all that woman, i love cooking and cleaning, but I also love speaking my mind and have 2 glasses of wine with my friends, and I also like to get catered to by my man why not? To be honest, as appealing as this might be for some, I don't envy these women ONE BIT...
You would be that woman. The things you said still fall under being a traditional wife. So if that's what you did, you would still be a traditional wife.
@Salohcin22 Nothing wrong with it then, but I can mix up both pretty well, because i love having a clean house and doing things at home, but i also love working 9 hours a day and earning money... so I don't know
I want her to be traditional in some things, doesn't have to be 100% traditional woman. Also, I believe that what u want u need to have as well, like, if I want a virgin girl that is saving her virginity for marriage, then I'll do that too. I want nice kind and caring girl that would love me, so I'd be like that to her as well. I don't really care does she wants kids, would cook for me etc., though I'd appreciate that :D
So yeah, I care about her personality and morality.
Me? Not really. I just want a feminine woman who isn't a feminist (aka, 'man-hating cunt') and actually mature and responsible. Having a sense of humor doesn't hurt, either.
I don't want someone who thinks she has to obey me. But I also don't want a girl who would do everything without taking my feelings into consideration. I want someone who respects my feelings, decisions and desires but also knows how to stand up for herself.
Yes to all but let me turn it around. You want a man bringing in enough money to support you and the family comfortably without your income, that give you sex when you want it and don’t want to leave or stray, and possibly wants a family one day?
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Not for me. In this world and society everybody needs money to sustain adequate living standards. Nowadays this can only be achieved if both work and in some cases if they also have no kids.
Screw poverty and breeding into it. I do not contribute to that madness.
Well invent something or just do high paid work on the internet and then save your money and invest it. 10 to 20 years later... tada. Do what you will with that.
@bamesjond0069 Where can I find high paid work on the internet? Upwork? Linkedin? Something I'm missing? Right now I'm doing software development and software testing.
There’s a difference between poverty and living within means. I stayed home. You didn’t mention kids.. I have worked full time, raised on a farm hauling hay, gone to school and worked.. and being a mother who stays home is the hardest job I ever had.. yet the most rewarding. He finished college as I had two babies under 18 months at home.. we had everything we needed. My parents had 9 kids, my mom stayed home except when my dad struggled and she went to work a couple years.. he did not make much money but we had our own farm animals and garden.. I never went without and never did they use welfare.. they sacrificed for us and it all worked out.. what quality of life? My kids turned out fantastic, never had to put them with babysitters or daycares where they could be at risk of being abused.. that is reason enough to have your wife stay home nowadays. I taught them to read before kindergarten.. good times. So you see.. two incomes are not needed.. it’s just what you prioritize.. your family or “stuff” that’s just excess.. our society promotes this.. More money doesn’t bring more happiness.
Ironically the guys who said they want a traditional wife, I've seen some of them talking trash and objectifying women HERE on GAG. Let me translate it for you: according to them, a traditional wife = a doormat who will get abused by them, be their good dog, chef, therapist, listen to their every command and won't question them while they cheat behind her back.
Nope. This kind of dogma is out of your own distrust for men and dislike of traditional women. If he cheats, she will get all the money and assets in the marriage. Same with physical abuse I believe. Most men want traditional women. We don't want another man in the relationship.
Those guys might fundamentally misunderstand what submissive means. The word submit is not the same as being submissive, and the original definition of it in the traditional sense is rooted to submissive from the Bible.
liahuynh.com/.../ Submission looks like respecting your husband’s point of view. It means humbly sharing your opinion with him. It means not invalidating him, especially in front of others. It means trusting his decision as a leader, while feeling empowered to give your own point of view.
its mixing good traits with demanding traits, but ultimately an agreeable woman who wants to raise a family yes, and be a good mom to her kids and good husband to me. nothing wrong with that notion.
None of the above- except that the cooking would be nice. None of the women I've been involved with fit that profile. I prefer professional women who are career minded, though not career driven.
Not father material? My husband may be like you.. his family ran off sarcasm.. never showed affection. His mom worked. She was never there when he needed her. he didn’t know he would like being a father until he had his own.. he came from a sarcastic harsh childhood.. little affection if any.. he became”” a good dad. I helped him. What makes you believe you would not be a good father? My dad was cruel at times, angry a lot, worked hard, made us giggle, sacrificed for us.. not a perfect dad.. but I would want no other, I know if I really needed him, I only need to call and I know my dad would come.. his way of giving love.. - if my dad could be a good enough dad, why not you?
I did the college thing, i worked many jobs, I pushed myself.. I am independent.. being a stay at home mom is so much harder than people going to work. I know. I did both.. it takes strength to do that and it takes strength to not be in competition with spouse, instead it’s called compromising.. or trusting someone’s judgement. Feminism is not doing women any favors. Divorce rates skyrocketing? Marriages failing? More people on depression drugs? More kids being abused in daycares or bullied or indoctrinated.. don’t believe all your school taught you. I loved being a good mother and was content, happy, and fulfilled a good purpose with kids that grew up to be great. I actually did do my husbands laundry.. it is how I thanked him for providing for us all. What’s wrong with that? It was both of us working together. I hope you can see soon that feminism was used to break family units up.. instead of complimenting each other it turned to competing with each other instead? Your young and just went through an educational (indoctrination) disaster..
as an arab who lives in a retarded religious society this is how marriages happen. AS for me not at all thr freaky the wifey the better and i dont mind that she's not a virgin for example and or if she works or spends most of her time outside the home.
It can sound appealing in a romantic way, but in reality nowadays I think its healthier if both continue to work if possible, as it maintains a level of independence.
@Xoxocutekitty This is why I'm building myself up first. It's still up to her if she wants a career. But I think that's not necessary. Also because I myself planned to be a retired house husband.
That sounds appealing but personally I want a strong independent woman however I still like the idea of being the provider & a protector. What you propose still sounds pretty good
Strong.. I did school, I did work.. and being a stay at home mom was harder than all those put together.. it takes strength to sacrifice self for kids. Independent? Do you mean has a good perception of herself and her worth or avid to fight off a grizzly bear or kill a spider alone without you helping? Provide protect commit.. your a good man.. you may just need to shake off some of that societal indoctrination about gender.. and see better.
Very much so. Modern women aren't worthy of having offspring. They just abuse it and bring up even worse people than they were. However when things are done naturally. It just works.
Don't want kids and because of that she should also probably work. She needs to be active or willing to be. Outside of those things everything seems fine.
A man who want such traditional woman should be virgin too, otherwise he is looking for beta cucks. Sorry but no self respecting virgin or low bodycount women would promiscuos or virgin men
A man who wants a traditional woman should be virgin too, otherwise he is looking for beta cucks. Sorry but no self respecting virgin or low bodycount woman would want promiscuos or non virgin men***
You need to look or be a part of where these faithful Christian women are.. they still exist. I had one partner, my husband.. 22 years.. I stayed home because it was mutual agreement. I had straight A’s smart.. but my desire always was to be a mom and stay home and iron my husbands shirts, not because I enjoy ironing. It because I like serving, cook, sew, clean, garden. I grew up on a farm worked hard.. staying home with little kids was harder than rolling bails of hay in the hot Sun or going to school full time, people have forgotten.. if you raise your kids right staying home is a busy demanding job. My husbands mom worked and he saw this and had already decided he would be fine with marrying a stay at home mom if she wanted. His mom was never there. Anyway, If you watch the news media porn or bars, you may not believe there are Christian women who are in USA, who save themselves for husband, who appreciate his hard work to provide and he appreciates always knowing his kids are well taken care of etc.. We are everywhere.. only we aren’t shopping at the malls, hanging out at bars. Maybe.. The one woman at the beach with some decency, wearing a one piece swimsuit.. might just be one of those who know God. No one’s perfect but I know plenty of young ladies who are “good”, looking for a dependable, hard working, kind, wanting children, man who puts God first in his life.
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