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Everybody cares about looks.
But take dating out of it and the answer is obvious.
Look at a ladies house vs a man's. Look at how much time they spend on their own appearance. Look at how they interact with their friends appearances. Look at how they spend their money. Look at their cars, there closets, their hair and their hobbies.
Go on tinder, make a fake profile of an ugly guy and a fake profile of an ugly girl and see which one gets more hits.
Guys like to see nudity more... but when it comes to general appearance women care way more about look, outfits, facial hair, fitness, matching socks... all that stuff.
Guys are more likely to have different priorities.
Its interesting to me that mostly guys said it was girls and mostly girls said it was guys, but I think if you take a step back and evaluate more scientifically you will see the answer is obvious.
In general, girls care way more about looks and astethics than than guys do. Not to say that's a bad thing. But, just to say that is pretty obvious overall.
I will say, men care about looks more in a partner than women. However, men's standards are a LOT lower than women's. Like, most guys just want a cute girl who'll treat him nice. Most women want a guy who's at least six feet tall, has some level of social status (successful, high status job, wealth, celebrity, etc), and is confident out the ass, PLUS the things men want, like good looks, nice personality, etc. While men only want a minimum of two things in women, women require and demand at least five things minimum in men, and things like height or success aren't easy to attain.
So yeah, men care more about looks in a partner. Women care more about everything else and require more from men.
Women care more about it due to biological reasons. Health means good looks in the nature. Females want the best genes for their offsprings and the best genes are men with good looks as i explained before. Look at the animals in their habitat and you will notice that male animals tend to have beautiful fur, colourful fur etc.
So women are programmed to find men with best genes and nen are programmed to spread their seed. However we are humans and dont have to blindly follow our instincs anymore. So i think women can date/marry men who are not the best looking or attractive to her if he has good personality, otherwise majority of women would be single/unmarried
So i dont understand the hate towards women's nature. Biology is sexist -like it or not. Hating on women for it is like hating men for not liking gay sex
I mean no hate with this question
Oh cool
You are one of the few women here that understand the evolutionary reasons though so I gotta give you credit
But that still doesn't answer the question, do you think it's men or women who pay more attention to it?
@Jonny9 naaah omg sorry. Looks are important to an extent but dont think women are obsessed with it. If someone is obsessed with, she can't control her intincs. The same way men want to spread their seed in the nature but a man who can control his instincs dont do that. Women still may care about it but i dont think any sane woman want a 10 man. I personally like tall nice men and i dont care if they are overweight, have asymetrical unattractive face. Majority of women i know just men who are taller than them and an average men is taller than women. My boyfriend is tall and before him i only reject one guy who was a player.
Men.. Men are very shallow they be with women that fits their agenda.
Women on the other hand don't care so much about looks. It's more so how we are treated. For example, men who are broke will claim a woman is a gold digger for being with a man who is financially well off or wealthy. But the reality is a man who is financially well off, stable , or wealthy can provide for a family. A man's priority is to be a provider make sure is wife and home are cared for.. so looks come last to us our primary concern is having a man who treats us well.
The reason why this video left out the man's resources was because this is simply looks compared to personality. So it's seeing which matter more in relation to eachother.
Still men care more about looks was my point
In relation to which sex is pickier when it comes to looks while choosing partners, the physical evidence is against your conclusion.
Again, don't view this as me complaining. I only value the truth. And it doesn't take personal experience to gather general data on a population. That could actually be very counterproductive since the person would most likely become more biased.
You talk as if you know me. 🤔 But if you did, you'd realize that I don't value dating or mating. Even when I was a kid, I turned down everyone who asked me out. Sure, I've had crushes on people over the years, but I've never wanted to actually be in a relationship. So if they found someone else, i'd force myself to be okay with it.
And in order for something to count as resentment, there would need to be bitterness involved. But there is none. I value fact-based truth.
dating & mating very highly*
Both care about looks, and there's nothing wrong with that.
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Women care about looks... and it seems like they're getting more and more particular about what they want as far as looks go overall, which screws over a lot of decent guys.
However, while many "Westernized" women are more picky about the partner's looks, and more demanding, as they at least have more options to choose from (or at least the illusion of more options), it would seem that women will forgo the good looking guy if he's kind of a dumpy loser, and they may go for an average guy if he's "in the looks range" and pulls in six figures a year and has the success factor and power and influence. But most will always be kind of looking for the better looking guy who does better than the current guy.
Men, I think, are more about looks as far as that being an ok "getting your foot through the door" kind of thing. They'll date/go for a gorgeous girl... I think many guys will put up with worse behavior or a lower "status" if the girl is "hot enough" to them, (unless they are high status enough themselves), whereas I think women will care less about looks than the partner (usually a guy)'s other aspects.
Now, this tends to be relative. Someone who's lower on the social scale might go for someone else who is similar for various reasons, though I think there's always some level of hypergamy, with many women, even on that "lower" scale.
Girls by far , Most girls are very picky on what they are attracted to , Guys can be as well but a guy’s preferences aren’t as long as a girl’s preferences She has a list of things for a guy to have for her to be attracted to him , As for a guy , He just mainly wants a girl with pretty eyes and smile a nice body and a nice personality, A girl wants all of that plus he has to have a nice car, a good job, popularity , Girl’s love status , so he has to be well known or be in a position where he is looked up to , A girl loves to talk and she wants a guy she can brag about to her friends , Guy’s don’t need all of that he doesn’t really care what other’s think as long as his Dick can get hard for her that’s all that matters
Honestly I can't say what other women think or feel but the video keeps jumping around with conclusions.
Overall as me specifically I don't care about looks, looks are least importance of representing who a person is.
My attraction to a guy is based off connection and his self worth.
Well, the video shows evidence-based conclusions... One's that don't rely on self-report. Since you say it's "jumping around with conclusions," I'd love to hear your reasoning for what specifically isn't well grounded in reality.
@Sonorous
Okay hold on let me grab my nerdy glasses and magnifying glass 🥴😄
It's a long video so I am gonna have to get back to you on that later so I can go over it again in more detail.
I will give you some examples though.
Like the fact that women were asked if they would prefer personality over looks, this only states a specific general idea of what women state as in the question should have been more towards if women think looks are important at all, you will find that women do like a good looking guy but that is not the most important thing or focus.
The second thing is the study basis of who was asked and what ages, the issue with it claiming that a woman lies about looks being priority or apart of what they consider in a mate based on simply the judgment of their own peers is inadequate because we are judgmental creatures that tend to assume off a base line of gossip and rumor. So the women who are judgmental to themselves would be more conclusive unless of course you are talking about just sexual relationships.
Men are very direct and though many would say looks they would also say that their standards will go above just looks when they mature and are looking for a serious relationship.
So their is a lot to get into with the video I would have to go over it, when I get the chance I will let you have my mind on the subject for you to debate or think over.
"you will find that women do like a good-looking guy but that is not the most important thing or focus."
^ I think that when people say it's not the most important focus, they're only saying that because when they do see a guy they're already attracted to, he's already checked off the box in terms of looks. So then it seems like the other ones are more important since looks aren't even a question. And this goes based on general data. Not the minority of women that act differenty.
"the issue with it claiming that a woman lies about looks being priority or apart of what they consider in a mate based on simply the judgment of their own peers is inadequate"
^ The conclusion wasn't simply based on that. That was just supporting evidence for the conclusion of self-report not being as reliable.
And I don't know what you're trying to say on the other bits. It's hard to read because of the lack of consistent punctuation.
@Sonorous
I'm sorry about my punctuation, In regards to the self-report not being reliable due to women saying other women do consider looks, this creates a contradiction within itself. Since women tend to relay their information based on what they might read or in regards to gossiping, this does not state fact because women are not as direct as men. We can be a jumbled mess. hahaha
Also women say this because most women are instinctive towards that feeling of chemistry and connection, we follow what are feelings project this is why we know if we like a guy or not. This is not based off of simple looks.
"I'm sorry about my punctuation, In regards to the self-report not being reliable due to women saying other women do consider looks, this creates a contradiction within itself. Since women tend to relay their information based on what they might read or in regards to gossiping, this does not state fact because women are not as direct as men. We can be a jumbled mess. hahaha"
^ It's all good. And the self-report isn't very reliable with anyone. His point wasn't to say that this instance is the only one. It just so happened that women were the most off with their self-report in this scenario.
"Also women say this because most women are instinctive towards that feeling of chemistry and connection, we follow what are feelings project this is why we know if we like a guy or not. This is not based off of simple looks. Sorry I meant to input that women say "it's not the most important focus" (This is in regards to my second sentence)"
^ It has been studied that looks are important for both sexes. But when it comes to choosing partners, the guy must be cleared looks-wise first. And he must meet other standards around looks. So since a man has to meet the other standards, women are more about looks than men do. & the point of the video is to highlight the common misconceptions about most women's thinking.
I think the best way to follow up these misconceptions are to bring together women in a group then sperate them.
The video gives a view that does not quite fit the bill but I get your general point.
If this was a fact though society would be filled with only society's view of the most eligible mates. We have all types of couples, many talk about being with someone that is not thier types both men and women who are in love.
More women then men date average men over society view of attractive men due to the stigma that attractive men only want sex or are shallow and arrogant.
In the sexual view I would agree that women do see mens looks as important more then men, in a relationship and partnership view though I would have disagree.
@Sonorous
Overall in regards to the general question, why the question when you can ask women directly?
If you are looking for facts why not simply ask women? Specifying your question in a vote?
A woman is not oblivious you just gotta ask us the right question to get a good answer.
Overall the most important question is how does this help in current life for people searching for partners?
!!! MY OPINION!!!
More men do care about looks than women, even if they are not that picky, they still do care a little about looks and the men who care about looks are mostly simps, who fall in love with women that have big breasts or big butts and when they get dumped by them, they cry and say it's the woman's fault, but it's their fault, because they care about looks. (Yes, I know not all men do that, but I had to choose one gender.)
And talking about some answers here:
Being picky doesn't mean that picky people care about looks. There are enough people out there who are not picky, but still do care about looks.
But there are women, who care about looks too.
So if anyone gets mad at my comment, that's my opinion just like all of you put your opinions here. And if you want to argue about something, then reply here without freaking out.
If you watched the video, you'd realize that it's talking about what both sexes would need in order to be in a relationship. So the relationship is the goal. And many simps would settle for any girl (generally speaking) even though they crush on the top ones.
Both do,
A) - the way you look _is_ the best indicator of your habits (the clothes perhaps not so much, but your facial expressions, weight, whether your muscles are agile/used or atrophied etc) - there is a lot of information there
B) - facial expressions show you whether you'd get along with a person (round heads sleep on their back, oval on their side, difficult to mix those two in the same bed)
C) - it comes down to sex eventually, and whether you are slim or chubby, and the way you smell, make a huge difference
Both genders care equally, I would like to be somehow attracted before starting a story with someone. It's not wrong to be picky, it's wrong to be TOO PICKY and find flaws that are senseless.
What's your reasoning for them being equals?
I don’t think it’s based on gender because for me personally it doesn’t matter if you’re the ugliest person alive, if you have a good personality I’ll just find you attractive regardless.
It just depends on the individual
This question isn't meant to specify what the minority's preferences are. It's talking about the majority/what is generally done.
Well than I think maybe boys because personally I’ve just seen a lot of guys that have very specific preferences when it comes to dating and I haven’t really seen as many girls with such specific dating preferences.
Like for example, it’s very easy to find a lot of guys and see their exes all kind of look the same meanwhile most girls are open to dating a wide variety.
Women are more attracted to confidence, strength, masculinity than they are attracted to a guy’s looks.
Guy’s primary attraction to a woman is mainly visual, but most women take care of their appearance so it doesn’t take much for them to feel attraction.
It’s why women might “seem” more picky - which they are, but not because of looks.
Boom!!!
And how women percieve a mans confidence, strength, & masculinity are heavily based on the guy's looks...
@Uptowngirl88 - I'm not confused. I have reasoning for all of my claims. Also, don't take this as me complaining. I have these views because I value objective truth.
It can be studied that people have biases towards attractive people. And when they see them, they automatically assume good character traits. And with this situation, if a female finds a man "confident, strong, or masculine," he's most likely already checked off the box for being attractive. And if he was "confident, strong, masculine," but not attractive, she likely wouldn't even see him as dating material at all. Showing clear evidence that looks are the primary determinant.
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I'm not sure how to answer that. I want to say men. But most women I've known have a "type". I mean you can be as charming as you want to be but in the end she'll reject you because you don't fit her physical parameters. Now within those parameters those women will probably date most guys. The data I gave on this is inconclusive.
Now I'll compare myself since I'm a guy. I've liked tall and short. Skinny and fat. Every hair and eye color and every skin tone. Beautiful people exist in every possible way. But that doesn't mean I'm physically attractive to everyone
So I ask which one is more picky? The women or I. They like a lot of a select group. I like few of a large varied group?
In my case, females care more and are more picky. but not all, i have my female best friend and she doesn't care really much for look, except for height.. she loves tall guys. i dont really care about looks, i care more about personality.. but to be honest obesity is turn off to me.
I don't get these type of questions. Both genders need SOME level of physical attraction to be attracted initially.
But both sexes have differen't criteria for determining mates.
You'd quantify it by studying actions across many levels of analysis & then looking at & comparing the data to form a consistent & least biased conclsion... And you'd accomplish insight into the truth behind mating & dating preferences.
Just that. I value the truth.
guys care about how girls look, and we girls care about how we look also
Oh I think that was more of a coincidence, I was gonna put gender but then realized that people's eyes perk up when they see "sex" 🙏😂
It became a stereotype that guys cares more about looks because it just seem like it but in reality, guys don't just go for looks alone but looks that indicate good health and fertility and that is just something anyone can tell by just looking at. So we care more about health and fertility and then just looks and most importantly the personality on top of all.
Unlike girls, they go for confident and strong guys who can protect her or even sometimes guys who looks like they can protect her but really no one can see it unless guys act on it so that's why they are not seen as visual because their standards cannot be seen with just looking at them.
Both do, but I think women are more willing to sacrifice hotness for other qualities. Such as funny, good career/money, reliable.
Women will date an uglier man if her brings more to the table. A guy won't really date a great woman that he's not attracted to. Doesn't matter how great she is.
I think everybody cares about looks to some extent. I definitely do but I don't expect my potential partners to look like models. some faces, while they would be deemed "unattractive" by the current beauty standards, have a certain charisma & personality to them.
When it comes to sexual attraction both men and women must have to be physically attracted to the person in order to have sex with them. But even apart from that women are always worried about looks and presentation more than men are.
Women are- they as a group are judgmental not only of men’s looks but also women’s!
Well people day men do because they are visual which is true to an extent. But woman won't day a average looking guy when they themselves are average looking. So id say both genders care equally as much.
Women are the worst and they also care too much about looks
What do you mean by "worst?" What is it in relation to?
it was an attempt at humor. I imply that they are the worst when it comes to caring about looks but then my second phrase indicates that the first phrase meant something else (left to the readers imagination)
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Stats say most all women want the top 20% of men. So they are pretty picky, not all qualities based on looks thought.
Guys mostly just go for the looks and compromise the rest.
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