
we all grew up in different financial backgrounds.
It kind of shocked me when my married friends said we didn’t talk about finances until marriage.
I’m always one of those persons that I need to get myself together before being with someone else.

You ever go over to a friends house, hang out, and just have fun doing whatever it is you both like?
Did you go into that situation expecting their financial aid? Or wondering if they "had themselves together"?
Or did you just go there because you enjoy their company and wanted to do x activity together?
To me the latter seems far more likely.
You don't actually have to "have yourself together" to be loved. In fact if they require that of you, they don't love you, they love using you.
Everyone I ever dated was a mess, they didn't make my life easier or even have their own life going as they planned (and I didn't expect them to).
In every relationship I've ever had, we never talked about money, at least not as if it were part of our relationship, and the only things that drove us apart were differenciating goals, not how well off we were, or if we had our shit together.
The only times money even came up, it was more; "why can't you get x game and play with me? eh? whatcha saving for? oh really? thats so cool! I should get one too." or "look what I got today!"
We talked about which video games were more fun and why, what anime was better and why they shouldn't make live action versions of them.
We sent eachother stupid funny shit, we asked eachother what kind of lewd things we were into, we told eachother what pets we liked having, and what our goals and hopes and dreams and hobbies are.
it was a lot of "omg me too,".
We talked about lots of things, but money never came up, because there was actually real reasons to spend time together, and we didn't feel the need to make up utilitarian benefits to convince ourselves we were worth eachother's time.
Get married, have kids, get financially stable, buy a regular old house, blah blah blah.
Is that really why some people date? To live out a stereotype picket fence life, lose independance, and become dependant on eachother while raising mini people?
How boring...
Where are all the women who see marriage as a promise to stick around no matter what, not a way to leech off someone.
Where are all the women who want to build a glowing replica of soul edge for comicon?
Where are the women who want to show me their scorpion or fossil collection? Or want to discuss interplanetary travel? Or why gorillas can't speak verbally? Or what features they wish were added to their favorite game series? Or how time travel isn't possible. Or which kinds of physics laws would need to be violated to have infinite energy.
What ever happened to 2 people lighting up eachother's world just by being there?
Thats not to say starting a family is bad mind you, but nowadays most people are so focused on the future and what someone can do for them to boost them up in the world, that they forget that the point of even dating someone is to have a best friend you do everything with, including your failures and mistakes, and unexpected road bumps or dissapointments.
People are not tools, and thats why harping on money is taboo, because yes, we need money to live, but you don't place the value of a person's income above them as a person.
If they don't have their shit together, than you help them make it so, and vise versa. But you don't abandon people or turn them down because either you, or they "aren't there yet".
There is no "right time to date", and life will often shit on even the best laid plans.
The best part of having an SO, is that even during times when life sucks, they still make it worth it.
I love this 🙌 my fiancé and I don’t have our lives together, but we have each other and figuring it out together is fun anyways and allows you to grow together. Plus, you appreciate each other and the relationship more when you struggle together.
Wow, just wow. You literally spoke my mind!! These words are golddd!!! Amazing perspective. Earned my respect!!!
Yeah tbh if she starts talking about my income like she had expectations, I would see it as a huge red flag that she will leave me for the first guy who is doing better atm whenever she happens to find one.
Women like that are not marriage material.
To me it says she isn't actually interested in me, just my wallet.
Nice to know enough women still value actual love that I already have 3 likes on this in a day despite low visibility.
@TheSpaceGnome I like what you wrote. And I understand the spirit of what you're saying. I kind of feel the same way, to an extent...
However, when you move in with someone, that changes things. Because then your lives are interconnected. And there are those practical things that need to get done that are make or break for whether both of you will survive; not only as a couple, but individually as well. Therefore, finances are important; and knowing where someone stands is going to be relevant to whether you want to have something serious with them or not.
@Jamie05rhs hmmm you do have a valid point also
@Pandupillu Thanks :)
@Jamie05rhs No more than it is with a roommate.
Quite a bit less actually, because relationships typically are less expensive (ie a roommate can't share a bed, so you are stuck with 2 or more bedrooms for instance, or perhaps you save money on water by showering together, etc.)
Another example for me is I wouldn't need internet or online subscriptions anymore, since couch gaming would be an option at 3am. and since thats only really a thing in older games, I'm also not paying for dlc anymore at that point. So I'd be saving a ton of money by that alone.
It's important to have money to survive and afford luxuries and entertainment. Thats valid with or without a relationship, so I see it as separate, but being in a relationship makes most things cheaper, even if they are broke, so this idea that "once you are living together, money will matter more" yeah sorry no, if anything it will matter less, much less, even in the unlikely event that I'm paying all the bills for any length of time lol.
But If you place a person's ability to contribute in that respect as a requirement to be with them, you're relationship is already over.
People struggle.
People have unexpected bills pop up, people get laid off without warning, people get sick or disabled, people hemorrhage money taking care of their sick parents or cat, or dealing with a mortgage they got stuck with by a dead parents or a cheating spouse, or dealing with their own health problems, or student debt, or whatever, I could literally list examples for hours, but you get the point I would think (if you leave when it gets hard, you'll never keep anyone).
People have ups and downs, they go through very hard times and very easy times, so no relationship will ever be a constant 50/50 contribution to anything, and you should be there for eachother no matter which you are going through.
I understand where you are coming from, but in the real world, going into a relationship with financial expectations is unrealistic, and fighting over money only happens with couples who hate eachother and use money as "a reason to stay". And thats a really toxic way to go about dating or marriage.
It's more important to focus on shared hobbies, interests, opinions, intellect, sense of humor, etc. In fact this is the single BIGGEST mistake people make. They date someone who has little to nothing in common with them, so of course they are focused on financial advantages, because at that point, it's not even a real relationship, it's a business plan you fuck.
I would only date someone as close to myself mentally as possible, it would not matter if she had a job, or didn't, was in college, or wasn't, has degrees, or doesn't, had debt, or didn't. It would't matter if she was filthy rich or dirt poor or somewhere in between. Because thats fluid, its a constantly changing thing. Enjoying a person's company is enough for me. Everything else is just a task we figure out along the way, and you bet your ass I'd help her find her dream career even if she had no clue where to start.
If she puts too much stake in finances as a factor, I won't see the relationship as serious.
A serious relationship is so strong that nothing pulls you apart.
There are a million ways to make money, finding someone you enjoy every minute with is extremely rare, and the idea of trading that for someone with more financial stability just seems really stupid imho.
@TheSpaceGnome Bro, I actually really like a lot of what you said. There are a couple of things I could nitpick on, but I think I'll let it go. Because you really do seem like you have a good heart and you have very honorable priorities philosophy-wise.
Wow bAbybebe don’t lol he’s all talk he doesn’t do shit he says he’s a loser lame he gives up sex. And damn rite! Like tonite is Finn rock! What happened to the guys who worshipped me this asshole is boring lol u don’t have ur shit together lol remember lolol and bipolar psychos shouldn’t go so drugs on a holiday beat a girls ass and then write like a poet lol
Yes u r so boring and shi stayed w u for income? U dated a 350
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Women always live off of the energy and money of men. Women in eastern european countries are very honest and open about this. "A woman's money belongs to the woman and the man's money belongs to the woman as well" Yes I have heard this. This trend will only reverse years after the vast majority of women will be out-earning men and we are already heading toward that direction. Women get better salaries and higher positions given by men who worship the vagina like a god, while men in lower classes become increasingly lazy, since working their asses off doesn't guarantee success anymore. Success is only guaranteed if you have a vagina.
You don't get finances in order before marriage your marriage will most likely not last long. When people get married they sometimes overspend. A new house, a new car, new furniture, etc. I have seen a couple of friends do that and both are divorced because they were always bickering about money and all the bills.
That’s why you should budget and do things before the marriage
Very true. If you can't do it before you probably won't after either.
Exactly and everybody lives above their means all the time
They are not taboo but no one wants a partner that is all up in their finances. Everyone's finances are personal and also in my opinion everyone lies about them. Unless you are jointly saving for something or running a household together and have a joint account they are none of any one else's business.
Um, this is your PARTNER. It is very much their business. You're going to be spending your lives together.
My old roommate did not budget at all, and I took him to task for it. He was always having "emergencies" and begging me for money. Then he got mad at me for telling him to get his shit together. Needless to say that did last.
"didn't". Sorry
Omg... Okay, I'm definitely not marrying you.
First of all that’s a risky game to get in a marriage with someone who is total dedt Once you’re married that debt is your debts
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I don't know. I think it's mostly a parents-taught-me scenario. Though technically mine didn't do it themselves, they did teach me strong financial habits.
Personally, finances are also an interest, given my bysiness background. So I like to talk about it and having a fiscally responsible partner is kind of a turn on, tbh.
Ooo what did you study? I’m studying Business right now and not sure which direction to go lol
It doesn't really matter, tbh. Business is pretty interchangeable and your core skills are negotiation, interpersonal skills, critical thinking, and Google.
Do a class you enjoy, that lets you network with your desired companies, ideally. And make sure you go to job fairs, company info events, and so on.
Have you done information interviews with folks in different industries, yet? Best to start there.
I need to know if the person im dating is employed or in debt. But i do not need to know his salary as long as he's paying his share of the bills
What if they are employee working their way out of debt
When theyre fully out of debt then they can come see me. I dont want to marry someone whos debt can be transferred to me when we marry
My husband and I started talking about finances when we moved in together after 2 years.
Talking about money in general though we started talking about that whenever we would go shopping so that's pretty early into our relationship.
When you're dating, guys might not want the girl to feel bad when we take them out on a nice date.
Wait what why would you make me feel bad for taking me out on a nice date.
Because sometimes, when a guy doesn't have a lot of money, he might be forced to choose between taking his girlfriend out on a date, or food that isn't Ramen noodles for the next two weeks.
I understand if you’re on a budget. But that’s when you start saying hey let’s do something in the house or let’s just go to the park or do you know make sandwiches in do you small stuff. But still make a romantic I think most women just want you to try
Staying in and just spending time together is nice and all, but sometimes a guy wants to do something nice for his girlfriend. And doing that is a lot better when she can enjoy it instead of worrying about him having to make some tough financial decisions because of her.
I’d love a hot home date shit lol but I think ima give myself one all do is sacrifice and I can’t even get a card bro hahaha
I think because there's the expectation that your finances become joint when you marry which I hate. I have zero intention of ever sharing my bank account with my partner.
Given that background, they aren't taboo for me though it's hard for me to convince guys that I don't care about their money which is very annoying.
That goes from relationship to relationship. Me and my boyfriend discuss finances all the time and I helped him get out of debt. I also helped my ex get out of debt. I think in a relationship , it’s important especially because you need to learn how your partner spends. But essentially you are correct. My boyfriends friends are broke and their girlfriends have no clue that their boyfriend borrow money from my boyfriend
Because it´s a sensitive topic. The problem is that in our modern society many people define themselves by how much they make. Money is more than the ground you´re living on. For some people it´s a status symbol.
Because of the fact that many people, especially guys feel less worthy if they make less than their partner it´s a sensitive topic.
For sure I'm the same as you but I don't think it's so much taboo I mean is it's a part of life when you become involved with somebody and you need to talk about it you can't be a secret it has to be out in the open
It's a touchy subject simply because when it goes well it's great, but when it's a struggle we don't like to discuss it, especially since there is a sense of failure, when there really isn't. Sometimes cuts need to be made and we are hesitant to do so.
Money should be talked about at least beginning in engagement, if not before. Never wait until after you're married to talk about money.
Engagement seems really late in the game don’t you think
@Justneedtokno You're right. Good point.
@Jamie05rhs
I know what expressions are but also we know there are men and women who are just players in sex bets, dares and other twisted games.
I don’t think that’s typical but that’s actually a neat idea. Just don’t talk about finances and it resists women marrying for wealth.
I’ve had a similar sort of idea where I just don’t talk about what I do for income, like don’t even say I have a job. Either way the point is that if we get married or stay together it’s because you like me and not my wealth or job or status.
I think that’s extremely difficult especially because I need to know what you do and you’re not like a serial killer out there. As far as finances and income goes you have to know if they are able to take care of manage them selves. In order for you to join our build together I guess
Well, it doesn't tell you anything about whether they're serial killers anyway, so that doesn't matter.
If as long as they're alive then their income doesn't matter, as long as it's not sex work or anything criminal then they're doing fine. I don't see the problem.
Yeah that’s kind of too late to talk about finances once you’re already with that person because they could be in a lot of that and a burden to the other spouse and finances definitely make a difference in a marriage because I can make or break a marriage
Because it reveals a lot about a person. If they are bad with money, or also how much they make and that it can cause jealousy and insecurities.
My wife and I had many serious discussions about money before we were married. The irony was is that neither of us had any.
The problem is, lots of women here get married to a guy for his money. My house is worth 1.2 million and I have my own business. Does a woman have the same stuff? Or is she just trying to have an easy life with someone who has everything? Finances should be separate unless you work together to buy a house, cars and more.
i wouldn't say that they are. i mean i wouldn't need to know "exactly" how much my partner makes. but a rough ballpark number would be normal to know.
What you and your partner have, is love.
What people you are talking about have, social status & money depending on relationships.
I would Rather marry a woman with a Good Heart... above all else...
That's a damn good question.
Financial planning is critical for modern lifestyle. I wish i could find someone like me.
Men make the money and resent it. Women spend the money and don't like to talk about it
I don't know, we talk about money openly and have one account together.
money is the killer to all relationships
Yes and that’s why I feel like you should be honest and open
Coz people are silly
Thank you @Justneedtokno for like!
Welcome I think it true people are silly
It's most important aspect of relationship and people still have so hard time making budget
It depends on the guy you with.
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