Because they don't want any consequences if they change their minds and abandon these ladies, for whatever the stupid reason. Pigheaded, shortsighted selfishness.
I am pretty picky when dating to screen carefully. Every woman who catches my fancy looks like a fun time. But I'm still gonna do my homework on her before I allow anything to get really far.
Sadly, most men don't care about that. It's all about having fun.
I would give a babymama every possible chance, if the child were mine, to demonstrate a point of willingness to marry. And I'd pursue marriage as ideal for the child's sake. I was raised to be at least somewhat responsible, so I know I have to pay my dues if my fun ever truly goes too far. So far, the risk of that has only been a serious issue once. And then the gal revealed that she lied about being pregnant. She knew I'd tolerate way too much of her crap if my kid were on the line, even when it felt less like a relationship and more like a hostage situation.
I got to have a glimpse into what kind of father I would be. Only to learn the child never actually existed! Just another of her lies, to laugh about how easy it was to control me. She didn't last long after that.
I've had several girlfriends in my time, but only had actual sex with one of them. All of it unprotected. And was mentally ready to deal with the consequences. I wanted a child. I wanted to believe it was time.
A lot of men can't muster up such courage. Alas, the girl in 2024 lied about everything.
I love this answer good job
*2014. Blasted phone,!
Alright let's take your bullshit points one by one.
1. Marriage serves ONLY the interests of women. Men get nothing out of it. Literally NOTHING! It's legal slavery.
2. "She went through all pain" yet she was too stupid and irresponsible to use contraception when there are multiple ways to avoid an unwanted pregnancy nowadays. That's how stupid and irresponsible women are today.
3. "she lovey you". No she doesn't. She loves only what a man can do for her. That's all. Women don't give a shit about men unless they can extract attention, energy and money from them. In other words, women are pieces of trash who can only survive by the help of a man or the gynocentric government.
4. "I guess they still want to have fun" yes we do. If women have no problem to whore themselves out for attention and money then men will answer the call. Just don't expect any rational man to commit. That's for the beta orbiters you pick to settle down with and lock them down with the legal slavery called marriage.
A mother carrying a child is so far beyond just the love she feels for her partner, it’s about that baby inside of her and the bond they are creating as it grows. In most cases “carrying for her man” isn’t what her pregnancy is about at all. On top of that, a woman isn’t “all for” her baby daddy just because she had his children. Sometimes people just aren’t compatible in the long run, and I’d much rather see them co-parent, than raise those kids in a household of chaos, creating lifelong psychological issues for their child or children.
no on said that it’s all about the man i’m just saying that’s something huge sweetie don’t overthink it. i’m a human so i know it’s not just a about a freaking man lol
What’s there to overthink?
“she’s all for you” “she carried a baby for 9 months & went through the pain she loves you silly” “you left you’re mark and most guys won’t want to mess with her anyway” I don't know how these statements sound less than you implying it is all about the guy lol
This mostly happens in cultures that normalize premarital sex and childbirth outside of wedlock.
Just keep your legs closed until a proper decent man worthy of your eggs marries you.
amen i agree
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Maybe because they aren’t compatible.
I do believe people should get married or at least be committed together before bringing a child into this world, for the child’s sake. However, things don’t always work that way… Life happens, and sometimes it’s unexpected and you figure out that you two aren’t compatible enough to be in a relationship, let alone get married.
That’s probably why some guys don’t marry their child’s mother after a while.
u If you want to be married and have a family, why ITF don't you get married FIRST and THEN have babies?
Life does not always work that way
@dreamstar72 Not if you are oe of those people who allows life to just "happen" instead of taking charge of your life. On this subject, we know what causes pregnancy and we know how to prevent it. . . if you take responsibility for the consequences of you sexual conduct.
FACTSSSSSS
Factos!!
you’re right but i’m sure any guy would hate to pull out everytime if the girl wasn’t on birth control & would hate to use a condom all the time.
plus majority couples have raw sex anyway and sometimes it’s an “accident” i guess lol
You can call it an accident and I can call myself Brad Pitt.
Lmao Brad Pitt 💀😂
Just because you have kids together does not mean you're good together.
Making babies is the easy part. Maintaining a good relationship and isn't that easy at all.
I know that but why have raw sex knowing the risk
Some people like to gamble I guess.
Well, if he's in a hypergamous society, maybe it's because he knows that he can get skrewed over way more easily in such a compromising position. And what good will that do for the kids if he also loves his hard earned things & the kids?
And as always, it's not that it will happen. It's that it could & frequently does happen.
The reason why couples don't get married even after many years of being together is because they FEAR COMMITMENT. They want the option to ditch their partners whenever things get hard or go wrong. In other words, you can't trust them to stay.
Many of them will say that "a piece of paper makes no difference in our relationship" or "our love does not have to be defined by a piece of paper". The fact that they're so afraid of taking on the "piece of paper" shows that the "piece of paper " does mean something. why would you be so afraid of something that means nothing? They fear commitment because they have doubts their relationship would last. It shows that they are unwilling to stick by each other when things get difficult.
Marriage is the ultimate seal of commitment. Ignore people who say that a marriage certificate means nothing. If it made no difference, they wouldn't fear it so much.
Yes that piece of paper means she doesn't trust him to stay and needs daddy government around to ensure she can rob him blind if either side step. While not taking any risks herself because she wouldn't marry down. Men has become aware of the more and more common abuse of marriage and don't enter it anymore. Independent of how they feel about their family situation.
Still not enough to many prenups are thrown out. Why would you ever want to enter a contract that gives no benefits and only reward your partner if they break it. The day I am on the receiving end, I could consider it. But I wouldn't go around expecting them to be foolish enough to sign something that give me a reward for breaking a contract.
Do you even listen I do neither of those things. So stop screaming YOU. I have never been married and I am quite certain that I will never marry. I never seen a reason to, even if we have better laws than US. It's still a really bad deal. A good woman doesn't need it, and a bad will abuse it. So the conclusion is to not do it.
No I am logical, marriage equal her having rights to my stuff, if I die or she divorce me, Hench give her a reason to want me dead or breaking the contract. Without marriage she benefits from me being alive. So I can keep providing. It's the hard truth. Marriage is not a good incentive to stay married, because it doesn't give you anything for being married, just by ending it. My stuff should go to my offspring not my partner, she is an adult and should be able to take care of herself.
It's you don't liking my views that makes you think that. It's not a subject you should joke around with and be happy about. I take marriage very seriously. I can't recommend it for anyone. You should just be faithful to each other and live your life don't involve the state with a so unfair contract. It will only encourage bad things.
Stop projecting. You must be a lonely female who hit the wall. I don't have any hate or problems with women. It's you that can't accept that less and less people wake up and don't want marriage, especially men. That doesn't make them women haters, that all you trying to do is shame men into something that bad for them and good for you. Just leave me and men like me alone. If you don't share our opinions.
@Adam1978
What makes you think females suffer? Females don’t suffer ! You’re the only one who suffers. I don’t need a husband or boyfriend to have kids. On the other hand , men need wife or girlfriend to have kids. You can’t have a family without a woman. I won’t be lonely because I CAN HAVE KIDS. YOU can't.
Most women still want marriage nowadays. And if you don’t want marriage , she will just have kids with a guy who wants it
You will be left lonely with no kids , no wife , no family
@Adam1978
Most women want marriage, if you don’t want marriage, you will just limit your options immensely, your dating pool would be super small. And the smaller your dating pool is, the less likely you are to have kids,
What makes you think you won’t hit the wall? I will always prefer a guy in his 30s over a guy in his 40s
No I live in Sweden marriage is not important here, it's connected to be religious and we are among the least religious people in the world. Most people simply cohabite and get kids. They never bother with marriage because they aren't religious and we have laws that protect people independent of their marriage status. And if I get the statistics right it's just between 30-40% that wants marriage in US. And to me that's clearly the rotten apples or brainwashed, and I want neither as a partner. If you want marriage fix your divorce laws. Or you and females in your country will get less and less chance to get what you want with the man you want. Don't blame men for not signing bad deals, make it a win win contract and a loss if you break it. That way you can start see marriage rate go up again.
@Adam1978
I believe most people in the world want marriage, especially women. Marriage is important because it represents a family unit and dedication to sticking together. If families were made without marriage , mothers and fathers would be ditching each other quickly and easily all over the place. Step moms and step dads and single parents would be everywhere. Kids see their daddies once a month Type shit. This is why marriage is necessary
@Adam1978
Its way easier to ditch a girlfriend than it is to ditch a wife. You can argue with this all you want. Truth still stands. There are not consequences to ditch a girlfriend but there are huge consequences to ditching a wife. Once you ditch your girlfriend, your child loses either a mother or a father. Likely it'll see dad once a month and live with mom
No it's not. If you didn't want divorces then why are women filling them all the time. It's not the men that does it. So don't claim men are ditching their girlfriends it's the girlfriends ditching their boyfriends. We all know that keeping a woman happy is impossible in todays society while keeping a man happy hasn't changed at all. It's still very simple and still its too much for modern women.
Not true at all, men don't care about a woman economy unless it's a complete mess. It women who have a high income that price themselves out of the market, because in the eye of men they don't really have a higher market value so they get a better deal with the low income woman.
So the conclusion is that women refuse to acknowledge what men seek in a relationship. And fails because of it. Men knows women seeks material resources so they either skip dating or aquire said resources. But only simps are dumb enough to just give that away. We worked hard for them and they should stay with us. Se can benefit from them during the relationship not after.
@Adam1978
[ot true at all, men don't care about a woman economy unless it's a complete mess. It women who have a high income that price themselves out of the market, because in the eye of men they don't really have a higher market value so they get a better deal with the low income woma]
Then do not complain when you lose half to a woman who has never had any net worth.
Do not complain when you have to pay alimony to your uneducated bimbo wife who can't survive on her own after divorce.
@Adam1978
Because overwhelming majority of women want marriage. They have no reason to fear marriage. Women want men who are committed to them. And women are the ones who control reproduction. So your likelihood of having kids is highly dependent if a woman wants you. You can’t have kids without her permission.
If you refuse to get married , you’re just limiting your dating pool.
As far as I know , most women do want marriage
That is simply not true anymore. Go check the interests in marriage in the younger generation and you will find that majority don't want it. And it going down for each year and I see nothing that will flip it around. Because that would require a very committed generation and that the opposite we getting right now. Everyone get less and less likely to put in the work a relationship requires so it will be more and more hookup and single parents.
Point me to that research every single one I have seen says the opposite. And It's not up to women, they can crave marriage as much as they want but if men don't propose they won't get it. And many have grown up in broken homes and haven't seen any successful marriages and therefore won't want to do the same mistake.
Are you a parrot? You keep repeating yourself. I have already rejected all that. Saying it over and over again won't change anything. If we don't marry. We can't be divorced. Poor or rich it doesn't matter. Your wishes will be pointless. Men have always had control over commitment. And that is never going to change. It's biology, and you are human not a spider. Go find yourself a simp while there still are plenty of them. But you won't get the relationship you dream about from him.
@Adam1978
take a look at pew research statistics, 53% of the population are married , 9% are cohabitating with their gfs and bfs., 38% are unpartnered and single.
Cohabitating is on the rise, but its not nearly as much as those who are married.
www.pewresearch.org/.../
Of course not, never claimed they where, doesn't mean they will get married or won't end up a single mother. Wishes and end result isn't the same thing. Very few wants that but still the number is sky rocketing because they can't keep a man. Because they refuse to give men what they want and always assuming there is a better option out there. So they walk away from what they got. End result is doesn't align with wishes or dreams.
@Adam1978
Most women aren't interested in men who don't want to get married. From my experience, the only women who aren't interested in marriage tend to be successful women with a lot of assets. If you don't want marriage, it will be a deal breaker for an overwhelming majority of women. Because there are still plenty of men who want marriage. she doesn't have to go for you.
I just went on dates with 4 guys within the past 8 months and they've all said they wanted marriage.
@Adam1978
[ Very few wants that but still the number is sky rocketing because they can't keep a man.]
The reason why women are ditching men so much via divorce is because women can AFFORD to leave their husbands. Nowadays women are typically educated, have good careers, so she can survive well on her own without a husband. If your husband isn't pleasing you, you can ditch him
Its women leaving their husbands, not husbands leaving wives.
If they can afford to leave men, why do they need marriage contracts to support them after a divorce? I don't give a crap about women who wants marriage because it signal to me that all she cares about is material stuff and the wedding day. I don't want a woman that reason like that. They are all bad period. If your so brain washed that you need either of that. Your a loss cause.
@Adam1978
Avoiding marriage is avoiding commitment. You just don’t want to admit that.
If divorce rates are high, what makes you think break up rates won’t even be higher?
If the marriage certificate means nothing , then why would you be so scared of it?
You wouldn’t be so afraid of something that means nothing
I have explained it so many time now, that you clearly can't grasp another view point then your own. Go up and reread it. I don't mind dogs but I don't want one. I am not afraid of them. So I would get one? That how you think about marriages. No if I don't want one I don't get one even if I am not afraid of them. That dog would just be a pain in the ass for me. And he would be better of in another home. That marriage can only be a pain in the ass, it can never give me anything the relationship can't give without it. So it's a big no no.
@Adam1978
In 2021, the average age of marriage for female participants was 33, while male respondents married at age 35
www.theknot.com/content/average-age-of-marriage
Cuz girl’s change and guys don’t , No offense but through my life experiences this is mostly true , A guy that is in love will more than likely mature more but he is the same person , he won’t party as much , he will limit his friends and work hard to be a good provider if he chooses to stay with her and the kids , But Girl’s change , Girl’s eventually become more selfish and go through a lot of hormonal changes , she will start bitching and complaining at her man for dumb reasons , she will withhold intimacy and affection and make him feel like he has to earn it and less of a man , Guys are scared shitless to marry girls for this reason , Especially nowadays , guys are scared to commit because of this reason. I feel social media has pretty much destroyed relationships and sorry to say most girl’s live on their phones and are brainwashed by the shit they see and read and most girls compare their lives to others and think grass is greener on the other side
My parents never married, Don't see the point, I'm glad they didn't also, they were awful together even if they were together for 20 years still. Questionable if she loved my father truly. Although I know a couple that was married for over 25 years, she never loved her husband, she didn't care about him all, wished him dead, wished her kids dead, hoped nobody would ever be happy. A piece of paper or a ring doesn't mean anything, not even giving birth means anything, this mother i knew who wished her kids dead, she had kids for appearances. She was a narcissist. Her daughter told it to her face, that her behavior made her suicidal, she smiled and felt happy with herself. There are honestly so many monsters, nothing is even proof of love.
Why do women have babies outside marriage? It seems over the top bordering on child abuse. I've seen women go for the baby trap too. It's vile and cynical and manipulative on levels that are hard to express. Women are 50% responsible for the birth of the kid. At minimum. That means they have an effective veto. Why TF they don't use it. In a fit of passion. In a fit of cynicism. Who TF knows. It's dark AF. I keep my zipper zipped yo. I have not been successfully manipulated in to having a kid. Therefore this is not my problem. I'd advise all men to do the same. One nut on the wrong night can ruin your entire life. And ruin the kids' life.
For what reason would they?
I have kids with my girlfriend. We’re not married.
It’s not because I’m planning on leaving or anything like that.
A marriage here will cost a few thousand. I’ve got better and more important things to spend money on.
If we were to get married what would change? Not much. Her last name, and we’d wear rings. If we split up which I highly doubt will ever happen we’d have to mess with divorce proceedings, but we’ve got kids so a split would be messy anyway.
Other than that the relationship would be the same. Married people cheat and run out on each other all the time.
Sure marriage is supposed to be about commitment and security but in today’s culture it no longer is. It’s almost meaningless.
Women are the main ones pushing for marriage but guess whose the main ones pushing for the divorce after the marriage? Women. 70% of all marriages end because the woman petitioned to have it end. Why? Because they’ve been incentivized to do so because of the wealth transfer. Marriage doesn’t benefit men. That’s why. Accept it or don’t
really I need to do my research on this. I barely ask for a penny and pay for dinner sometimes with my boyfriend he adores me because i’m not really materialistic i wish more women and men know that money isn’t everything and it’s take time to upgrade your life depending on your situation and mental state etc.
I've seen this with religious people as well.
People have all kinds of "screwed up", a lot of it is fear... fear of intimacy, commitment, vulnerability, failure. Relationships often blow up after the 2nd kid, so there is that. Something change with stress and such.
you'd have to ask them, write a book.
I think some just like knowing they have a place to stay if need be. They feel theyve tied her down with babies but sadly she still can't tie him down cause he’ll just go around skeeting in the next woman while coming home to his baby mama every other night to have a roof over his head and to not have to pay child support if she thinks theyre on good terms
Beats me, when I was younger soon as she told me she was pregnant I would of said lets go down to the court house.
As I was old fashion I got married first though.
I do not get how someone can have multiple kids and not want to get married, but then again maybe they are afraid of being stuck with alimony or something. They will already have child support at that time, but it still seems logical for me to get married for many legal benefits.
It’s because the male is most likely dealing with a trauma response from childhood. He honestly doesn’t feel worthy enough.
Just my opinion. Fight me! 😆
Half of marriage ends in divorce, of those three overwhelming majority are initiated by the women. Men tend to lose out massively during divorce from children to assets and finance. With those odds and that outcome it's a hard pass for me.
I've been in a relationship for 7 years, 2 kids, and not being married has no effect on how I feel or behave. I don't go "have fun" and it has nothing to do with being free.
This is a such a varied statement to make. This issue involves people who are individuals with different backgrounds , childhood upbringing, societal pressures , financial situations, support systems. Everything is different even between the 2 individuals involved. We cannot make such statements until there is enough studies and data collected to make such a universal statement.. just like the opinions & comments here, they are all different. It's a narrowed view and makes single mothers appear weak and vulnerable. And all fathers seem insidious.
Because they are sorry excuses of a men. The best option is to not open your legs for them unless they marry you. Life is so simple. Safe for you and helps prevent dysfunctional parents.
Lol can’t argue though you seem quite pissy about the type of men they are… who made men like that? Single or bad parents? Evil women whom lie and cheat? Perhaps their just bad.
I feel like because you weren’t the girl for them… when they REALLY want you, they’ll do all of those little things that matter… they know by marrying with you, it’s viewed as a lifetime commitment.. that’s why they won’t just marry anyone.
So many reasons from legal goverment to personal issues.
I dont want goverment being in middle of my relationships at all.
Law and order can stay outside on streets. How is that working out for them? Exactly
Because marriage is harmful to men… there isn’t One thing men get from marriage they can’t get cheaper from somewhere else.
i keep seeing this, that can’t be the main reason lol..
For me it is. Well I don’t have the baby momma but I was with a good woman for 5 years twice… I was content didn’t need marriage. These days I won’t marry. Period. God himself could vouch for her and the simple fact she can ruin me because she lost the butterflies leaves me without a choice.
jeez people do change but was she cheating if i may ask. because I feel like a loyal and honest women from the start knows what she’s getting her self into after months of dating that’s why i feel so strongly about women having raw sex and getting pregnant and making a permanent decision probably because she loves him
If she ever laid with another man I didn’t find out. The fact I’m not in prison and she’s alone is proof…can’t think of anything more detestable… she did emotionally cheat. Stalked an ex for 3 months and talked with many guys online… didn’t like it but didn’t think I had a right to tell her who she could and couldn’t talk to… realized after 5 years I had every right to tell her and even if I couldn’t enforce it I could leave… so yeah. Here we are 3 years later single.
Funny thing… I value a wife and child more than anything… but I don’t think most women today can be wives.
I’m looking for a LTR. I’ll be a husband in name not title.
yikes i’m so sorry. put yourself out there & be you if that person can’t compromise & accept you for you then don’t waste a minute being with them after you’ve talked it out & nothings changed of course. but i wish the best there’s 2 sex’s on this earth for many reasons!
I don’t agree. That’s the way this current world wants you to think. But marriage is supposed to be something special with privileges to offset the compromises. Can’t claim it’s something special when 53% fail and most of the failure end in mutual destruction.
It’s time I think for us to accept marriages gone. Most men arnt dumb. They won’t commit with so much man hate out there.
Because he has free sex and no strings except having to pay child support if he leaves. So right now he is sitting tight until a better offer comes along. But that's the price you pay for having sex before marriage.
Because they don't have to, they already got everything they could from that girl without marrying her so where's the incentive? If they loved her, they'd propose when she first got pregnant.
That’s because they’re shitheads like my cousins. Then again , no one stays married anyway, so sometimes I wonder. Sad world we live in when the kids end up suffering no matter what because of selfish pos parents.
There is only certain men that do this in society. They tend to be guys who are pretty much losers in life, but women like them because they fuck good. Then ask questions like you’re doing now.
i’m not in this situation it’s just something i noticed a lot unfortunately
Knowledge is great to have. Get it when you have a chance
Because he doesn't want you. It's not being mean or an asshole. He liked you at one point and obviously... especially with kids, if he doesn't marry you than he doesn't see himself wanting to end up together.
Same reason why girls don't commit with their baby's father so they marry them so that they can just divorce them for the benefits.
i mean she sorta did commit
Then he sorta married
makes no sense also a guy can easily go have fun, flirt, maybe even cheat while the girl is showing during her pregnancy
Then what you said also don't make sense. Also a girl can easily manipulate the guy due to the fact that they can take advantage of how much the law favors pregnant women. They can even opt out of parenthood while still suing the father for child support.
what i said does make sense i’m talking about the ones that actually loved their partner and your mainly talking about gold diggers like people who get pregnant by rappers who already have multiple baby mothers lol.
Which is why i said "same reason why" and if you like to pretend it doesn't make sense, then so can I about your question. It doesn't take a genius by the way
Why don't we enter a legal contract which makes it extremely difficult to dissolve the relationship and enables someone to get half our stuff? Man that's a good question
Marriage is a bad move for men. Once you get the government involved in your relationship your in trouble and as a man you have far more to lose than the woman.
I mean, mine tried, but I don't believe in marriage or think its relevant.
They don’t care what she went through or whether she cares about him.
Because they just want fun and a lay. This is why you wait until marriage for children. If you're happily married a couple years then chances are that you're going to work out.
Probably because by that time, the guy has had plenty of chances to figure out she's crazy.
Perhaps is not the right time yet but they will eventually do it in the future.
Because they're pathetic irresponsible little boys who view women as a sex doll and nothing else.
It's because they want to keeps there options open, thinking that something better might be down the road. I personally was with my kids mother for 8 years, but the day after our 8th anniversary she finally made a honest woman out of me.
Well that’s decisions like my father had me and didn’t get married or that other woman he had my 2 brothers with maybe he wanted to be a free man
Don't they marry the mother of their children first and then have children? Can someone green me on this?
Why would you get pregnant and not married? Guys don’t want to get married if they don’t have to.
Because they are either A. Shit bags or B. The relationship isn't good
Put yourself in the shoes of today's men and ask yourself honestly if you would be excited about getting married.
well if they met a female like me who’s been dating her fiancé for 3 years and is loyal and honest, including nonmaterialistic i would. there’s some good women out there lol just be yourself and let someone accept you for you
Every man who marries thinks that's what he's getting, but too often it does not work out that way in the end.
Half of marriages end in divorce, and women file 70% of those divorces. And it's no secret that men get robbed in divorce court and screwed in child custody disputes. Marriage does not offer men the same benefits it used to and it's more risky now than ever before.
I'm sure you're a lovely women but you have to understand the reality men face today. It's not the same as it used to be.
why do men suffer more during divorce im curious. i’m talking about the ones that don’t have kids mainly
Because the courts favor women and women typically take advantage of that.
Anon your not quite right about that. Sure women get the kids 90% of the time but they can’t usually manage them even with child support alone. Most of the time divorce is mutual destruction for men and women.
That being said it’s unfair. Women can leave and men can’t. That’s because women rarely earn more then men so they have to pay for the divorce in alimony and child support. Women get the kids causing great stress on their work lives but suffering for men whom can’t see their kids as well. There’s support for women specially if they have kids but not men even with kids it’s hard sometimes… men also have a harder time letting go once they become attached.
What is the point of marriage? It's a religious thing. Not for me. You don't have need to marry, to prove your love with a piece of paper 😂
Because marriage is only for wimpy beta simp cuckold type men. Where have you been? Do you not live in America?
She is not marriagable. The more laws they make the higher the standard is for marriage. And so the standard is very very high right now. Personally if you're not a super model 18 year old virgin im just going to laugh if a girl comes talking marriage. I mean come on... i have to PAY half my money in marriage, she better be worth that money. Just a girl who is nice to me... sorry lots of girls are nice to me its not worth much at all.
Unless his baby mama is a stripper, he’s never going to put a ring on her finger. No man wants to settle for less than perfection
Get married first, but to be honest, getting married and having kids is the wrong choice in today's crappy world with social media, cheaters, and more.
Because they don't believe in the church or the state
It is bad, if people pregnant some woman, they must marry her
Marriage isn't used to unite two people. It's used for other gains
Against the church, against the state, against divorce
You said it yourself. We've marked our territory already. So there's no need to marry her.
a lot of women date the wrong men that just want sex from her
I wonder that too with so many single mothers out there, I can’t find any without kids
Because this womans stupid.
who would want to marry a fool?
Some people are assholes
Kids don't make marriages good or better
never said it did
no i’m insinuating on how silly it is that they’re having kids without getting married.
never said a child will make it better
What's in it for the man?
Because they wanna get with other girls bad people
Everyone wants to play but not to pay
Having kids isn't reason enough to get married
Maybe they don't get along
You don't need to be married to "prove" anything.
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