and also when a woman has a child does it really change the way sex feels for the man for the worse?
Why won't guys date a single mother?
and also when a woman has a child does it really change the way sex feels for the man for the worse?
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That's interesting and all, but this is more a Q&A site rather than a dating one, so it doesn't seem like the wise choice to be looking for your future partner here: there are other sites that are more focused towards that specific end goal.
Good luck to your quest.
I think most guys just feels that being with a single mother means he must also have a degree of responsibility to her child as well. If the guy is younger, like 20s, he'll feel that dating a single mother would mean that he would always be limited to what they can do together since the child must always be in mind. So no partying late, sex whenever they feel like it or to travel out of country, since most single mothers also have ex boyfriends or ex husbands who have legal rights to the child. Its also depends on how much the guy likes the girl. if he really likes her then he would be with her and her child despite any limited freedoms in the relationship. but most guys at that young age dont want to deal with the responsiblity of the child. Sex wise, no correlation what so ever. I've dated a single mother and sex with her was amazing, the whole 'vagina being stretched out' is not so true, i had no problem with that. So no, its not how bad or good the sex is, but its the fact that men would have to be responsible and would not have so much freedom in the relationship with a single mother.
Single mothers are like the circus. Do you know why the circuses travel a lot? Because it's easier for them to change the audience then to change their act. They always intend to have fun with the bad guys, they end up getting pregnant and after they have kids they realize that was a BAD idea. And then they would try to do "the right thing" by dating or seducing young childless guys which its never gonna work out and they know it. And what they say: men are Jerks, assholes. this and that. All I'm saying stop fooling around, do your homework and find the right one. don't try them all.
@Europianguy you're so narrow minded to think that single mothers have kids through reckless behaviour. Some single mothers have actually married the guy and its not worked out, its even possible the husband died. I don't say men are jerks or assholes but ones with such a narrow mind are.
Common argument I've heard is that they dont want to raise another man's child. Or they dont want to hear a kid say "You ain't my daddy I dont have to listen to you!"
This is gonna sound mean but Imma keep it real. If you're a baby mama (divorced mothers not included) that is like the ultimate diss. It's like a guy nutted inside you and dipped out on you and left you holding the baby. That may not be accurate for all single moms, a lot of them were in legit relationships with the father, but thats how some guys judge it off the bat. You look better as a woman having been married and got a divorce, than a girl who was never wifed up but has a kid by a guy who didn't stick around. The divorced mom is assumed to have the child's father actively in the kids life so she won't be looking for a replacement daddy
Real men don't care and will step up. That's so much sexier than a man who runs with his tail between his legs anyway. I have kids and they are all from the same dad. He only wants to bother with them during the holidays. We split because he cheated. I keep to myself. No way in hell do I want my ex back. These guys commenting are all making assumptions and excuses. I have had several guys willing to date me even though I have kids. They aren't scared. As far as the whole vagina being stretched out, that is so not true. If it were, many men would move on after the first kid. I hadn't had sex in a year and I was tighter than ever. I was sore for days and the guy wasn't that big.
Actually, there is a word for men who are happy to raise other men's kids.
Going extinct. ;)
Lol @RationaleMale
@nicko2552 you're disgusting
Don't worry about it @crystalt70. There's a reason why so many guys on this site are bitter and lonely and virgins. And their mindset is exactly why. We just know that most men out there are NOT like the ones on this site lol.
The disrespect is astounding.
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because in theory, a woman who's dated 50 guys can still walk away from her past and make a new life.
a woman who has a kid, no. there will be a reminder every minute of every date of a past fling who didn't stick around. And most guys don't want to raise another man's child. That's like cuckolding.
I have never had flings. I was with one man for twelve years. I respect myself too much to sleep around. Just because a woman has a child, it doesn't mean she is a slut. My whole point was that there are men who are fine with a woman having kids. I live in New Orleans. It's harder to find a woman who DOESN'T have at least one child. People get in relationships early here. Men don't care as much here if women have kids. They will step up and raise the child (ren). Many of them even adopt the child (ren). There are several guys who have wanted to date me, even though I have kids from my past relationship. These guys actually pay attention to who a woman is instead of stereotyping or running away. They respect women enough to not call them names and make assumptions about them because they have kids.
LOL i'm sure you do think that a man willing to put up with your kids is much sexier than a man who doesn't have to. what a compliment! a man so desperate (or ignorant of the trouble he's getting himself into) who will jump through such hoops for the privilege of spending time with you. and if he's really lucky he can get some easy sex. men are people too... they get to decide how to spend their lives just as much as you. if they choose not to spend their life with you for the sole reason that you have kids- that doesn't make them cowards or 'running with their tails between their legs'. if men are suddenly finding themselves not getting laid because there are SO MANY single mothers in the world that they can no longer find single women without children... and they would rather not get laid than compromise on what they want- then i admire them and commend them. it means women can no longer charge men with only thinking with their dicks. you're damaged goods whether you like it or not.
When dating a single mother, you must understand, he's not just dating her. He's essentially auditioning to be the father of a kid that's already on the ground. You can't do the fun newly dating stuff with a single mother because there's the kid you have to consider.
Plus guys seem to think that by dating her he's signing up to be in this kid's life and be the father figure and that scares the ever loving shit out of a lot of guys who don't have children of their own.
Add to that this complex they have with rearing another man's child and you're pretty much set to be a single mom until you're 45 and the guy's divorced and has three kids of his own.
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It's nothing to do with the sex feeling any different, it's about not having to take care of another man's kids. A lot of single women I've seen expect a lot from new men they date, expecting him to basically be a replacent Dad, to work to support them all while she stays home etc. Most guys don't want that for obvious reasons.
Then there are quite a few single Mothers who lie about birth control to get pregnant to try to trap a guy - that's how a lot of them end up single parents, tricking men who don't want to be Fathers into impregnating them and then complaining when they aren't around. In fact I was friends with benefits with a single Mother and she kept on trying to tell me not to use a condom eveb though she wasn't on any BC, she said she "probably wouldn't get pregnant" You can garuntee that when a woman has 3-4 kids all from different men that this is what she was trying to do. Again, men don't want this for obvious reasons.
And lastly there are the kinds of single Mothers you meet who are just cruel to their ex's and like to use their kids as weapons against them. No word of a lie, 2 girls I met who were both single Mothers showed off about how they did this and laughed about it on the first date. Fucking idiots.
Are all single Mothers like this? Obviously not. But you never know, and there are plenty of hot, single, childless women out there.
I know, it's pretty fucked up. I know not all are like that as my parents divorced when I was about 2, and my Mum has always been great, been married to my Stepfather for 20 years, never bad mouthed my Dad (at least not in front of me) or stopped me from seeing him or anything like that. So yeah, it's just a shame that women as I described are out there.
Yeah it's stupid, it hurts both the Father and the kid.
@comoestas - one I met through friends the other I met through online dating. They'd just not let the Dad see the kid, one would tell him he could come see them then cancel last minute, one of them joked that she was "the boss" and that she told him what to do and if he didn't do as she said she'd not let him see the kid and she asked me "that's only right isn't it? Because I'm the primary caregiver?".
Its sad because some of these guys are great dads, a friend of mine went through the same thing with his ex. What these woman don't realize is that custody is 50/50 unless a judge says different, if taken to court (which they should be) they could get into some serious trouble and could possibly be charged kid napping.
Often these Dads can't afford to take the Mother to court, and even if they do, very often they just get a slap on the wrist. Family courts are very biased.
If I liked the girl and wanted to try and get to know her or start something, I'd make an effort. Just because you have a kid, doesn't mean people shouldn't date you. Yes it'd be weird not being the father or whatever, but if you love the girl, you can make it work. It takes a special kind of guy to do this. It shows you really care about her and the kid and you're not just in it for sex or some short relationship. It wouldn't stop me, but everyone's different
I've tried dating guys who had kids and I've realized I just become attached to the kids more than him so I told myself never again for a lot of guys or from what my guy friends tell me is they won't date single moms because they are initially taking a part in the responsibility of raising them and if it didn't work out they've invested time and feel it's a waste especially since the mother can say she doesn't want them to see them anymore. I know a few guys that has happened to especially one he got attached to the idea of this girl being his daughter and the mom broke up with him and won't let him see her even though she thinks that's her dad. I think it can be really confusing as well for younger kids.
However one defines dating, it connotes something more than just having sex (when I was your age 100 years ago we use to date to get sex, not the other way around). In your age group, most unattached men are not looking for either a serious relationship or one with a child. They may still be in school, trying to get careers established, paying off student loans - a woman with a child screams responsibility and commitment in capital letters. It's scary.
Does sex feel different after a woman has a child? If it was a vaginal birth with a large child she may not feel as "tight" but I have found that mothers can be very sexual and more attuned with their bodies, having birthed and nursed a child. And a woman who knows her body is a great partner between the sheets.
thats not true, some guys will date a mother because he knows she most likely has her own place as well as a job meaning she's always gonna make sure she's financially stable since she has kids... some won't because they dont want to deal with the father of the kids drama etc... then there's guys that won't completely mess with mothers because they dont want the kids getting attached to them or dont want to feel as though they have to be a father or second father to the kids... i mean im sure a guy would rather date a mother thats stable than date a single girl thats not stable in life... as for sex... i have no clue... oh yeah then there's the guys that just have sex with her.. but thats just because those type of guys just have sex with anybody mother or not...
The median household income for a single mother headed household was under $23,000 last time I looked. This means that the large majority of single moms only survive and feed their kids due to the tax and welfare advantages they qualify for. If you add in my income, she'd lose $0.80 for every $1.00 I'd be bringing home. Her expectation is probably that her quality of life would go up, but the opposite would happen for both of us. In her disappointment she'd eject me from the family I was only in at her invitation.
What you say I have noticed. There seems to be a double standard. Many women (not all) will date a man with kids... its actually attractive to some woman that a man is caring for his kids alone. But its not attractive to some men men (not all) that a woman has kids and she is caring for them alone. As for the men wanting to have sex with a woman who has kids but won't date her, thats no surprise a lot of men are desperate for sex and kids or no kids if he has an opportunity he will go for it. I reiterate this is NOT the case for all men, all men are not desperate for sex, some have standards and will be selective of who they stick it to.
honey again you must pick up a book on evolution. The reason man are attractive when they have children is because it shows that he could potentially be a good father to your children, and provide for them as well. The reason men find women with children unattractive is because he must put in as much effort into raising a kid that is not even going to help his genetics to go forth, and is practically a waste of time and effort with an extra hint of sacrifice to not receive anything in exchange, that is the same reason why men don't mind to have sex with a single mother because men are hardwired to "spread his seed."
I am not your honey... ass wipe.
he calls you honey... and you call him ass wipe. you probably have experienced first-hand running into men with standards and are selective of who they stick it to. if women today had the class of our grandmothers we'd not have any problems finding men falling over themselves to marry us.
Wow guys. Everyone's situation is different! Meeting a great girl with a child and automatically assuming the worst things you can think of and not giving her a chance is ignorance at it's best. I agree that there are some women out there that try to "trap men" but there are also a lot that had things happen at an inconvenient time in their lives or with the wrong person. And just because they decided to do the right thing and raise the child instead of adoption or abortion (yes I understand every situation is different ladies) some of you guys already rule her out before getting to know her? Wtf! Sorry rant over. Super passionate about this topic. There are still good men out there that will accept you and your kid (s) and NOT see it as a burden
after several kids would u be the same down there... the inside is a muscle so it returns back the way it was but the outer lips dont... kids are responsibility and young women that are single with kids show lack of responsibility... guys will basically fuck anything that has a vagina... i entered into a relationship with my first girly for a 2nd time after he had kids... we were talking online while she was preggy.. she had a 3 year old son and was having a daughter... i was there in person taking my responsibility form the first week the baby was born and even though they wernt my kids i loved and protected them... some dont want responsibility... some dont want kids type of responsibility... some dont want to grow attached to them and then break apart form mommy and never be able to see the kids again... besides kids make dating and sex awkward for some people..
It's a couple of reasons, why most guys won't really date a single mom. Added responsibility, less free time on her part, the kids knowing full well you're not and never will be their dad, the constant reminder of her past fling, emotional baggage from that fling, you'll never be number 1 in her life since that spot is already filled. What if you want to have your own kids, then it's a messed up half/brother situation.
What it mostly boils down to is...
Why date a single mom when there's plenty of single women out there without kids? I mean, really. There's literally no reason to date a single mom with so many single, childless women out there.
The only reason to date a single mom is if you're a low value man. Low value pieces of trash have a hard time getting attention from decent women, so their thirst will drive them toward the lowest of the low. Landwhales or single moms? I suppose the sex is still ok with the latter.
@altragunner first of all a person value should not decrease because of their situation. Secondly, refering to single. mothers as landwhales and low lifes is also a testimate to the fucking problem with this country. That single mother who you are putting may have been cheated on despite the fact that she's beautiful, smart, educated and loving. In fact you are probably the kind of trash that would cast woman aside like that. Such ignorant mentalities people carry about others they know nothing about.
Haha
I am not interested in dating any mothers. I am also only interested in long term relationships. Since I don't want to date a mother, that also means I am not going to be having sex with them either. Experience has taught me that I will always be seen as the outsider in HER family. I want a family of my own, and to not be treated like an outsider. I am sure some single mother out there isn't like that, but at this point, it is easier just to avoid them entirely.
Personally I don't want to date or have sex with a single mother. I'm 20 years old, I'm not interested in that kind of relationship. I have no problems being friends with a single mother and even helping out whenever they need help, but really if I get in that kind of relationship i'll feel like I have some kind of responsibility towards taking care of her child. I'm pretty sure most single mothers won't put that kind of pressure on you, but I rather not take the chance.
Have you ever heard the term Cougar. A mother cougar is always on the prowl for her kits next meal! That's why I never have any relationship with a mother. Can't pay for her mistakes. If women would understand their nesting instinct they would make a better choice of a man instead of looking at his ass and other physical features , but then that is nature. Evolutionary psychology very basic premise is " that if a man has meat he wi have sex and if a woman has sex she wi have meat" you know cave man stuff! Bigger house car boat you know bigger head rack! People look at the wrong stuff for a relationship that's why your still looking and wondering and looking for some other person to raise your own brood and you will always put your children before there stepfather! That's just to list a few reasons there are a plethora of others! You dig your own grave lay in it! Don't expect to have someone else dig you out of it! Have a nice day! Oh I never read my responses do t waist your time!
My best friend was pregnant with another man's baby and her ex boyfriend took her back. Look at the girls on teen mom, most of them got married/bf's and they already had kids. I don't know I just notice a lot of single moms find someone eventually, it's just harder for them because most men don't want to raise kids that aren't theirs.
When you have a kid - there is likely a father somewhere and that is drama that is not fun in a relationship. Maybe you could hop on here and give some advice to these kids that want to have kids before they are married. Let them know what a train wreck it is to have a normal social life as a single mom. How a child is not like a cute pet but a real 24x7 responsibility.
You could really help some of the poster on this site.
1) Bad experiences.
2) The ex will always be around
3) The man will be in the backseat of the child.
4) Baby's daddy drama
5) Some states require the man to pay child support even if it's not his kid just because he was with her past a year. California is well known for that.
When I buy a used game, I prefer to start a new file rather than continue from another persons game.
It'd be hard for me to think of anything serious with a single mom at this stage in my life.
Maybe if I was 30 and all women already had a kid.
I want to give to my biological child the best future I can do. I if I go out with single mother I will have to split my financial resources between mine and her child. So my own child will have at most half of what I could give in a normal family. He will have cheaper toys, cheaper gadgets, cheaper clothes, cheaper education and so on. He won't get that much attention neither. I don't judge men who go with single mothers. If thats makes them happy, I am only glad. But for me it's immoral to deprive my own child of love and attention for another kid.
I feel like I would have to be very financially stable. I would have no problem dating a single mother, I want kids of my own someday, but really, if she has kids, I feel like my number 1 priority would be being extremely financially stable, not just breaking even like I do now, but having a surplus
I am not a fan of baggages and I am also not up to raising someone else's child. Single mother are just like damaged goods to me. And also, I feel like I am a second to single mothers. Someone else got to have the fun with her and end up impregnating those women. No thanks.
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