Is it because you're secretly afraid you will fail?
If you aren't doing anything wrong it shouldn't be a problem.
Is it because you're secretly afraid you will fail?
If you aren't doing anything wrong it shouldn't be a problem.
Testing a guy when he has done nothing wrong and done nothing to justify the suspicions of a sick mind is an insult. Suppose I said to you, "Well, if you haven't done anything wrong, prove to me that you haven't fucked another guy snce we've been together!"
If you can't understand that, it DOESN'T mean that you are right.
RESPONSE TO UPDATE: If dated a girl who said that these "minor loyalty tests" were all "simple, normal stuff," that would be the last time she ever saw me.
Wow, this reminded me of my ex's mentality. Maybe I DID dodge a bullet with him!!
@TenderFantasy If he thought this nonsense was cool. . . there wasn't a happy future ahead of you with him!
It has nothing to do with being afraid to fail: it has to do with trust, or a lack thereof.
Giving a guy a loyalty test is essentially telling them "I don't trust you." Nothing will sink a relationship faster than a lack of trust. It's incredibly offensive, especially if the guy has given her absolutely no reason to question his loyalty.
Honestly, it says way more about the girl, than it does about the guy. It says that not only does she have trust issues, but she also has problems communicating, and would rather play stupid games, than talk to her partner. Those are massive red flags, in any relationship, for both men and women.
Personally, I'd immediately dump anyone that tries to pull that shit on me. If she doesn't trust me, despite having no reason not to, then she's not worth my time.
Look at it from their perspective.
You are testing their loyalty with a made a lie you and someone else created.
1. you are lying/tricking them. (Which now makes you seem untrustworthy and sneaky.
2. You are also saying you do not trust them and need them to prove their loyalty to them.
How can you ask someone to be trustworthy by proving how untrustworthy you are?🤷🏾♀️
Hmm, I don't know. I was too afraid to test that with any of my ex's lol. I was very afraid they'd fail it! Lol.
There's already too much competition out there, be it for love, marriage and family, a job, etc. I didn't want to add more stress to my relationships, aka, I didn't want to rock the boat!
Lol, maybe that's why I'm single? Lol.
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Because trust is not something that is gained through testing others. That's a really manipulative tactic, which you justify, but it's highly immoral.
Women test men all the time. It's biological because if they choose wrong then they have a 9month disappointment on heir hands.
It kind of depends. If you have trust problems. That’s a problem. As long as you’re fine with a guy doing the same to you. Okay…. Sometimes there is ways to test someone and ways not to.
Because when you women do stupid shit like this, it shows us you have no faith and trust in us and are trying to start drama for the sake of "loyalty" as you put it.
No. This is coming from insecurity and is manipulation. I pray that this blows up and backfires on you.
"getting another girl to hit on them" and
"asking randomly out of the blue to see his phone right then and there"
You mean spying on guys and secret-service like operations? Both are high treason when it comes to countries, no wonder the guys get furious :)
The very moment I would discover such a scheme - I would instantly dump even the sweetest girl.
Shit tests... why is it even a thing we all recognize at all? It's like needless bullshit to deal with 9 times out of 10, so I would argue further than just failing the shit test... why is there a test at all? Like, you say something that is just blunt, 100% true, and you start getting questioned on what it was supposed to mean and a bunch of bullshit... can you imagine that?
It's bullshit nobody wanted or even asked for.
Because they usually don't make any sense and they're usually not tests to confirm your loyalty, they usually keep coming until they find something that convinces them that they can't trust you.
So after enough "loyalty tests" it makes me feel like I can't trust you.
That's not simple or normal and would make me very seriously question everything 😂
If you trusted, you shouldn't be doing tests. It isn't the tests that men (or women) mind, it's the very explicit statement of "I don't trust you" that the test yells. This isn't a skills test or training or something like that. This test is, I don't trust you; you're on probation; you're on parole. That's a terrible way to have a relationship.
Personally, deal breaker. Why? It proves you have no respect for either me or the relationship. This isn't middle or high school. If you want to play those types of games I prefer a good board game.
If you want to play such emotional or mental games with a relationship, I would prefer them move along and leave me out of it.
Because my partner does not have the right to "test" me, nor do I have the right to test her. I"m not some dog to be rewarded by my owner for behaving well.
The only things that keep me from cheating is that I prefer my partner and my own sense of honor to not violate my word.
If I discovered my partner "testing" me, I would conclude that trust was gone in the relationship and I'd end it.
I will also never test or check-up on my partner either.
Oh, honey, you have SOOOOOO much to learn about men.
With men, the most important thing is loyalty.
If you "test" him, then he no longer considers you loyal because a "loyalty test" is subconsciously considered by men as a form of attack. If your relationship survives that, you are very lucky - but I doubt you'd have a good relationship after that.
Because the test is a sign of your lack of trust.
Those loyalty tests are you trying to come up with the unrealistic worst case scenario of a woman who 100% perfectly knows how to seduce your guy deciding to make a move on him. The odds of that happening are almost nothing.
Not to mention, even when we pass the test, your insecurities reguarly flare up and the shit gets exhausting.
Whether it’s women “testing” men or vice versa, the whole idea of “testing” people in friendships and relationships is juvenile and downright disgusting. I would encourage those who do it to go out on a busy interstate and play tag with the cars.
I would like to do it and test them , but if they found out that im testing them they would think im being manipulative and break up with me although i don't think it's wrong , it's just a stronger indication that they are trust worthy (if they didn't fail)
I'm assuming your test isn't him handing over his phone but rather asking a friend to see if he'll resist her advances. If this is the case then that's retarded. Why would you consciously 'loyalty test' your partner? I get that people subconsciously test their partners with a question they might ask for example, but consciously testing them by creating some scenario is beyond idiotic.
WTF. If you have to do loyalty tests then there’s a problem with your relationship. It means you don’t trust the other person or that you have insecurities that can’t be solved by one test.
My girl gave me loyalty tests all the time. I didn't get angry and stayed with me. Then a month later after proposing to her. I asked her to sign a prenup (last month). She got angry and broke up with me.
Why did she break up with me? How about answer that?
By doing so you already failed the trust test... You've shown you're insecure and not confident enough to be with him. You're constantly being tested as well... Relationships aren't a one way street.
Because it's childish and silly. You think you're testing his loyalty, but all you're doing is showing that you don't trust him. Or even worse, that you're trying to control him.
You're showing you don't trust them and are doing things to see if they'll fail. It's messed up.
because we are not lab experiments. you shouldn't be testing people. you should trust a person and if they break that trust it's on them but you testing them is a bad look
The key word is "test". We do not like being tested because we are straightforward creatures. Also, there is no reason to test us unless you lack trust, in which case you should not be in a relationship.
Why are you testing him?
I don't like cameras in the street (CCTV) as they don't stop you getting mugged it just helps the cops find them if they want too.
so why minor loyalty tests?
The issue is that your not trusting him and you have this manipulative test going to ensure he's loyal to you. Any loyalty test is an issue as if you feel the need to do such a test you either shouldn't be in a relationship or at least in a relationship with your partner you loyalty tested.
No, it's because I don't cheat and sure as Hell do not put up with sh*t tests. She tries me and I show her the door. Too many chill girls out there to endure such nonsense.
It means you have trust issues that you are projecting. It's not normal and is a red flag. I'm to old for games. If you can't trust someone then stay single and spare the rest of us the mind games.
Question: Would you support a law requiring paternity DNA tests at the birth of all children every time?
If I want to get tested, I'll date a kinky teacher or act like a man slut and get some STIs.
What I won't do, is date a manipulative insecure little bitch.
Loyalty tests are toxic af, they are essentially an accusation and you're telling your partner you don't trust them.
Shows me you're insecure and immature, neither of which are attractive. At all.
Toxic femininity.
If you feel the need to do a loyalty test you don't deserve a relationship
I can understand why men get angry with you but it would not bother me. Except the phone thing, I have things that are not for my girlfriends like messages from my friends and family.
I think its more that they are upset that the woman had to do a test in the first place.
Women do the same thing. Females overthink things and plan and scheme new ways to “test” guys and men, so let’s not fool ourselves. GAG has become bash males, everything females do is 100% within reason. Yeahhh fuck that.
If you don't trust someone you shouldn't be with them. Shit testing is insulting, and when men do it to women, they go crazy with anger.
Don't do it to us.
Pffffft... Women need loyalty tests far more than men.
Why do women get so angry about paternity tests? Is it because you are afraid you will fail?
If you aren't doing anything wrong it shouldn't be a problem.
"To clarify, small loyalty tests like getting another girl to hit on them at a bar when I'm not there or send him a DM etc., to see if he tells me about either of these things or if he just ignores them or goes along with it, or maybe asking randomly out of the blue to see his phone right then and there, all simple, normal stuff"
No, these are not simple, normal things. These are things only insecure, manipulative and conniving women do. The reason men are put off by these things are because when a woman does them she is exposing herself as an insecure, manipulative and conniving woman, and men don't like women like that.
It's unhealthy and shows that they have things they need to work through.
Being manipulative and sneaky is not attractive.
Because it proves you’re the disloyal one. Also its really annoying.
Means she's too immature for a relationship since she's too busy playing games to work on good communication.
Games are for kids, women play games that men walk away from. MGTOW is giving men classes on what to do about you women.
If you have to test someone you shouldn't be with them.
Men hate loyalty tests because they know 90% of them will fail and fail miserably.
Minor loyalty tests? Can you give some examples of what you mean by that?
Thank you for the example, but that is truly messed up.
Why ask about loyalty anonymous? Perhaps you should take one!
Do you like being tested? I fell out of love with some women because of their bullsh! t.
It probably has nothing to do with failure but the lack of trust within the relationship...
The fact you don't know the answer to this question speaks volumes about what kind of woman you are.
Yikes! No thanks.
No that's not simple normal stuff as you have stated that makes you a 3rd party temptress.
We can’t have a relationship without trust so testing us is disrespectful
Same reason why women get so angry at minor loyalty tests
Because it shows that you dont trust him. My ex did that shit
Common sense. If you don't understand that.. well... sucks to be you. 😆😆😆
Nobody likes tests. How would you feel if men tested your loyalty. Not very nice, would it?
Lets here your version first, why do you think we get angry at minor loyalty tests?
Just like girls get mad as well, it goes both ways
That's some psycho-tier nonsense.
Tests Such as?
Wouldn't you?
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