We are in a societal epidemic of loneliness, what do you think is the most to blame for this?

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JacobJordan · Accepted Answer

you have several that require votes. and some that don't exist and some that are not listed. but to list them. online dating, feminism, hook up culture, the #metoo movement. for relationships to form in the past people had to meet get to know each other get close then get married or be in a committed relationship at least and then have sex. online dating and hook-up culture has removed that need. in the past men would approach women and flirt, be gentlemen, ask the lady on a date, etc. the me too movement has nearly made it a federal offense if a man that a woman is not attracted to approaches her giving her free reign to call him a creep, a rapist, a sexual assaulter/harasser. women who have one night stand regret can and have accused men of rape because she regretted her stupid choice and would rather lie than just move on with her life. this has made men realize that of the 2 choices: date western women or stay alone the safest is to stay alone. feminism in todays society is not about equality but superiority. ie women claiming they can do anything a man can do and they can do it better. women claiming that they are still oppressed in 2023 when they haven't been oppressed since the 60s. and possibly even earlier.

now to address the things that don't exist.

patriarchy does not exist in the US it has not existed in the US for a very long time (since before 1913)

capitalism is merely a form of economy (a horrible one) and as such has little to no influence on relationships, dating, marriage, loneliness

socialism is a form of government that equally has little to no influence on relationships. dating, marriage, or loneliness

purity culture no longer exists in the US as the vast majority do not value purity even though they should. in fact many see purity as a means by which to insult those who choose to have self respect and wait for the right person. regardless it has minimal influence on relationships as the vast majority of americans just don't want a partner with a very high number of sexual partners they are fine with some partners.

one thing I would like to say though is feminism itself is not actually toxic. the current version of it though is exceedingly toxic. but feminism in general was and still is meant to be about equality between the sexes something that women have had for going on 60+ years. so feminism did it's job.

ZackBan · Accepted Answer

It's the online alarmists and trend setters who have created this "epidemic of loneliess" through word of mouth by brainwashing youth through social media.

There is no epidemic. There is no patriarchy. Hookup culture is nothing new. Online dating is no different from real dating. I could go on and on down that list of reasons you listed which prove my point.

Fact is if you turn off your phone, leave the house, meet someone, get to talking, go on a date, you will live a regular dating experience.
Will it happen every time you live the house? No.
But it never has before.
Which is why you would benifit from a disconnected social life where you don't use the internet to formulate opinions and make life choices but instead you just live your own life and make your own choices based on the facts laid before you.

Online we only hear : all men are this all women are that... there is no such thing as "All" it does not exist. Different people are different and you can meet any kind of person by just broadening your horizon

wolfcat87 · Accepted Answer

The death of MySpace. Anyone could find friends and relationships with a website like that, but we don't have any centralized place for everyone to meet any kind of person they want anymore. Tons of get married or have sex apps. No just chill and meet people for no reason other than their page is cool and they might make a good friend app.

WaddleGirl · Accepted Answer

Wow…heavy question. Can I say all of the above? I was chatting online and we had a similar convo. For me, I think that we are constantly dividing ourselves into groups. WE our creating distance between ourselves. Instead of seeing what we have in common, we focus on what’s different.
I hope this makes sense. Thank you.

caring__1 · Answer

It's the prevalence of entitlement. Rather than looking to see what we can do to improve our situation, we look to others to provide it for us and then get bent out of shape if it doesn't happen as we expect it to happen. If people focused on what is within their control (their own choices and behavior) rather than what they believe others should do, everyone would be happier and more fulfilled.

Another key problem is dysfunctional communication skills. People just copy what they observe around them, assuming it must work if so many people are doing it. Never assume you have the skills without ever being taught the basics. People assume communication is about being heard rather than showing others you care enough to want to hear and understand them.

It's very hard to connect with others when we can't accept and appreciate them as they are. It's also important to feel good about what you bring to the relationship, realizing what you bring is what the other values.

DJB72 · Answer

You missed an option.

The fucking WHO/WEF idea that everyone on earth should be locked up for a full year. To "protect" us? What bollocks was that?

Yes, Covid was serious if you got it badly. I should fucking know - I almost died of it. But the lockdown? I almost died of loneliness knowing that even when my heart stopped and I had to be resuscitated my family, NOBODY I cared about was there for me to hold my hand and remind me I wasn't alone.

Nothing you listed comes close to what I went through. And I know I'm not the only one worldwide who experienced it.

HortAgent56 · Answer

The breakup of the nuclear family and the nearly complete abandonment of faith has been devastating to our society. Living life without rails has proven to be a disaster and the evidence is all around us. Social media has played a significant role because it cuts people off from their surroundings and substitutes real time social relationships for people who are not actually "there" in your physical space. Like it or not, USA culture was built on the teachings of faith. You take that and the family out and things start to fall apart.

"The 'Patriarchy' and it's toxic values." That's quite humorous. That has not been the actual case in almost two decades. Thankfully, women are thriving and filling places in every facet of society. It's the younger men who are in trouble dropping out of college, drinking too much, initiating divorce and generally confused as to their place in modern society.

Saiesh30 · Answer

The convenience of staying indoors, locked in your dark rooms and communicating with people sitting in different parts of the globe does more harm than it does good.
The ease of doing everything remotely is more of a dis-ease to which we all have succumbed to.
Not actually getting up to do stuff doesn't bring comfort in the long run but rather discomforts our brain that should be involved in physical activities.

bolverk · Answer

You could not lay the blame for societal loneliness on just one of the above causes,

Hook up culture, On-line dating, Entitlement, and 4th Wave Feminism and its toxic values, all have contributed to it, and Covid 19 did not help.

NathanDavis · Answer

blaming one thing... and ignoring all others that's the true culprit... because it makes really you do nothing about it

BoopBoopBeep · Answer

I don't have time for online dating. Most of the people I hang out with don't either. Most of us are not lonely. I'm not saying it's necessarily causation... i'm just sayin'...

MiddleAgedClimbee · Answer

I would have to think hook up culture because it tends not to lead to a fulfilling relationship. Similar to getting off and on a merry-go-round that doesn't go anywhere.

aceleon · Answer

feminism and toxic values along with hook up culture capitalism has a role in it too but not as grave as those.

AngryCarl2 · Answer

People voting Feminism should really vote Capitalism, because Feminism is a Capitalist construct. Don't forget that working women are a pool of cheap labour, in the same way as immigrants and East Asians.

yulbsari · Answer

None of these! It's a lack of connectedness with oneself and the universe. This is only accomplished through spirituality, not necessarily religion, but spirituality, spirituality. No one likes to talk about this, but therein lies the answer.

boobliker · Answer

the mobile phone, you had to be out to see things in the days with out a mobile phone now you see it all on your screen and things you don't want to see.

HereToHelp88 · Answer

Social media made it so we don’t interact in person anymore. Everything is fake and remote

Billlewis · Answer

Too many choices, for one thing.

smahala1991 · Answer

Social media and a post pandemic world

BLP11520 · Answer

A combination of these

Andres77 · Answer

I’m not.

Crankor · Answer

Social media

ThrillSeeker01 · Answer

The plague

HouseMoat · Answer

Trump

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