Why do men believe women are not excited and don't need intimacy as much as they need?

[CuteMommy]

[BluegrassBill]

Well, darlin', let me tell ya 'bout a thang or two about down here in the South, we got our own point of view. I been around these parts I reckon 2 score, and I done seen it all,
Womenfolk, they may seem shy, but they got a fire in their soul. So sit back while I strum on this here guitfiddle and sing you us a yarn.

Now, my first time with sweet Kathie, the preacher's little girl,
We was in that church lot, beneath the stars unfurled.
She looked at me with them big ol' eyes so innocent,
But when I kissed her neck, she let out a little gasp so potent.

God made women to be soft, gentle, and kind,
But don't you go mistakin' that for bein' left behind.
They crave intimacy, just like us fellas do,
It's just they're taught to keep it hidden, like a secret from view.

You see, women like @purplepoppy they're like a fine-tuned fiddle,
Needs a tender touch, and a man who's willing to strum her middle.
When you're deep in the moment, feelin' that heat rise,
They might not holler loud, but their hearts beat like a drum in the night skies.

Men, we may brag 'bout our BBC and our dreams,
But truth is, it's the connection that sets our loins a-gleam.
We all need that touch, that spark, that fire,
Master, slave, or any shade, it don't make no difference, it's desire.

So, darlin', don't you believe them lies,
That women ain't excited, or don't need love to thrive.
We're all God's children, searchin' for a little light,
In the arms of someone who makes everything feel just right.

Donald Trump, he's our modern-day Jefferson Davis, you see,
Fighting for the South, and for our traditional liberty.
Slavery may be a sin, but history's written by the victors,
Down here, we remember the brave, and the stories that were smothered.

Now, let's go huntin', fishin', and share a moonlit night,
Together, we'll prove that love's the fire that ignites the Southern light.
With a country girl by my side, I know we'll find that spark,
In the heart of the Bluegrass, where passion leaves its mark.

[Finchie40]

Because they are men that probably been with women with low libidos or she was getting it elsewhere behind his back. Bottomline most relationships fail because of lack of intimacy and affection , when intimacy and affection starts fading away so does the rely on most cases. Me personally will only be in a relationship with a girl that loves sex like I do , if sex becomes an issue in our relationship , I will end it with her and get it elsewhere

[Crimsyjo]

Well said.

[RichA322]

Same mindset here.

[Anonymous]

If you don't express how you feel they won't know. Men are not psychic. If you wait till you are upset and raging to tell them they will leave you. People with this problem need to learn how to communicate kindly from the get go.

[Nikki1989]

Because traditional gender roles and societal expectations have often placed greater emphasis on male sexuality while downplaying or even suppressing female sexuality.

[CuteMommy]

Agree

[incorrected]

Are you using "intimacy" euphemistically to mean sex or do you mean it in the broader sense of emotional and physical, including other forms of touch than just sex?

Some men just want sex, but don't seem to manage those other forms of intimacy, so their women aren't into it and they don't get the sex the want. Some men have been with women who weren't intimate emotionally or physically and think that's just how it is.

In general though, women DON'T want SEX as much as men do. In general, men will have sex with anything that moves and isn't repulsive to them, whereas women are far more selective. It's a generalisation, but it's true. This perception is further evidenced by the data from dating sites and hookup sites; men have a bell curve of swipes and clicks that fairly evenly cover everything from 4/10 to 10/10 (top 60%) and women's choices pretty much wholly spike over the top 10% to 20%. Sure, women THINK they want sex as much as men, and they do, but they have options so they're pickier about who they want it with and what they want it to be like.

[Keyboardkat]

Simple. Men produce hundreds of thousands of sperm cells every day. The human male was designed to roam the earth impregnating as many femals as possible. They produce so many sperm cells, they don't have to be careful where they "distribute" them. But a woman, during her childbearing years, produces just one egg cell per month. Of course she has to be selective! A counselor at a sleepaway camp I went to as a teenager, back in paleolithic times (!), put it this way: "It is a male weakness to look upon the girl as a kind of toilet facility!" The girls were shocked when they heard this. I don't think most girls realize how differently guys think of sex from the way they do! We guys were embarrassed, because we understood what he meant, and we realized that it was close to the truth, but had never heard it put so crudely before!

[incorrected]

@Keyboardkat There is a certain biological imperative, a 'winner takes most' paradigm. There's a bit more to it than that though. Those on the lower empathy side of things tend to employ a 'spread far and wide' strategy, whereas those with higher empathy tend to employ a high investment strategy. There's also then further divisions based on upbringing and value systems, which tend to emerge socially. Religious doctrines are as much a part of our species natural behaviour as the biological underpinnings.

[Keyboardkat]

Yes. I must say that I never wanted sex without love. If I were really attracted to someone, I wanted to try for a relationship with that person first. The problem with sex without love is that you have to get up the next morning, and see that person sleeping next to you, and you can start to really feel lousy about yourself. intimacy with another person's body, a person you don't love, can leave you feeling filthy! On the other hand, sex with someone you really do love can be absolutely beautiful and binding. That was always my ideal desire!

[incorrected]

@Keyboardkat Same. The two experiences are so different that I hesitate to even call the loveless kind sex. It's more like mutual masturbation with each other's genitals.

[Keyboardkat]

Yes. I call it using another person's body as a "masturbation machine." In that department, being a solo practitioner is probably much better. You don't have to please someone else and you always win!

[incorrected]

@Keyboardkat I've tried various toys, and two different kinds of sex doll, one made of TPE and one made of silicone. I'd say overall TPE is better and it's a lot cheaper. It's VERY close to the real thing and beats loveless sex, and ironically it's possible to feel some level of attachment to a doll in a way that doesn't happen with hookups. I'd say go doll until finding actual love, and otherwise keep sex off the table, especially in early dating.

[MisterWack]

I don’t believe that as a man, women deserve moments of intimacy with their partner, select time together, and excitement to keep things interesting. If you don’t have time, make time for your partner because you only have one and they deserve your attention, protection, and love.

[MisterWack]

Intimacy, closeness, compromise, talking things out & expressing one’s feelings, and time together is crucial for successful & happy couples.

[D_Bone_Steak]

They show no interest in a thing and express much less for a thing. Maybe they don't like thing as much as me?

Tell me how that logic is flawed. I mean I'm not talking about you as an individual here and you need to realize you and other women are not a monolith or single entity. Some women detest said thing so much that they purposely become undesirable for said thing. Combative, cheese cake factory fat, unagreeable on everything, et cetera. Fuck those bitches and everything they stand for. They're strong and independent... so let them soak and bask in that strong... and let them suffer what comes with being independent. Not my problem.

If I'm nice to some chick and she hates me for it... I'll stop being nice

[Just_Right_Size]

I think men know what they know because most men don't want to know or care. I think most women are afraid to speak up and say what they want. Men have to want to be educated. We aren't born understanding what women want. We know what we want and assume that women work the exact same way that we do. The irony of cunnilingus is that women want it, but after they get it, they want the guy to clean up. Making us stop to clean up kills our mood. Maybe I won't ever understand because women smell amazing, and I could spend all day smelling like her. I sometimes dream about that smell.

[kaucky1]

This may be a shock but mostly all not got their own balls know how to satisfy anything without being wasted then they be sucking eachother off but not me for them it goes limp. Not get had one for guys smell bad but to satisfy self if got that bulge down there ura hermaphradite😗🤪🥹🤤, so tap on it use it if came out anyways so use for protection use it upsidedown like or somebody walks in 😳

[Godihateyou]

If a man spends a single second worrying what a woman wants he has lost. Because they don't give a single thought about us past what we provide.

[Crimsyjo]

It's sad your experiences have led you to this. I spend large amounts of my time and effort thinking of how to make the guy I love happy.

[CuteMommy]

@Crimsyjo I agree, the dynamics of every relationship is so different I feel... And it's sad sometimes when one person is giver always

[Orion84]

Any guy that genuinely believes that probably wasn't able to keep a woman interested/excited, or he sucks in bed.

[Nerdvana]

Because a lot of men are selfish and don't care about the needs of women. And yet most women will waste time and energy trying to change them.

[katiesmuff]

Must be the company you've been keeping! I sure haven't seen much of that at all.

[LiamS95]

That's a fallacy women have needs just as much as us guys do they just need a guy that can actually fulfill those needs as it's a bit more complex fully satisfying a woman then it is a man.

[genericname85]

because women factually do not need it as often as men do. that's not even a controversial thing. everyone knows it.

[genericname85]

plus sex is more readily available to them objectively speaking so they to me it seems unlikely that they'd be as excited about it.

[Anonymous]

For the same reason women erroneously don't believe men have feelings/feel.

Your gender has your preconceived notions based on your own world view and experiences and we have ours.

[Anonymous]

well, there's no shortage of loud women online screaming they don't need no man

[Anonymous]

It's not that men don't think women want sex, they just don't want it as much as men do. Why? Genetics.

[IslaTheWitch]

because women feel and react differently?

[CaptainSmartass]

Sounds like some sort of incel crap, if you ask me.

Simples...

[Rohaan2020]

Bcs most women show it like they’re doing all of that only for men and that they are ok without it

[MasterKS]

Those are fools, women have greater need than men.

[Wise4myage]

Only a dumb ass would think like that, lol.

[captain_voidwalker]

Simple because you don't

[Crazzyyworld]

Women = sugar baby

[NicholasRedone]

Blame media lol 📸