I found texts on my husbands phone with his college "friend". We ran into her last year and he was looking at her weird. For month's he's been on his phone non-stop. Also, he kept sitting in his car in the garage on his phone? So while he was sleeping, I opened it (don't ask how) and saw a ton of messages with his "friend". From what I can tell they haven't met up but he's trying hard to convince her. He showers her with praise, says he's always been in love with her, that "you are the perfect woman I never believed existed". Talks about how perfect her face is. She writes about wanting to start a family (not with him) - my husband is writing crap about her having a 2.0 of our daughter!!! She says "go talk to your wife" and he wrote "Im not thinking of my wife in that capacity" I am devastated but don't know what to say because of how I found the messages. He is pestering her in the texts to let him take her to lunch. She says "sure I'll hang out with your whole family. Your daughter is so cute" and he just keeps responding "you can have 2.0 of my daughter". I am financially dependent on my husband. He even owns the business I run for us and he has another full-time job making most of our income. So I cannot just leave. I feel devastated. But is this even cheating if he hasn't seen her? Is this just fantasy for him? Went through his DM's and texts - there don't seem to be any other messages. He's pretty locked into this one person.
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1 yThis was upsetting to read. It started out upsetting right off the bat. It got increasingly upsetting as I read it through.
I am so sorry this is happening. I am literally angry and upset just reading about this happening to a stranger. I can only imagine how you must feel right now.
This is 100% cheating. This is cheating as bad as if he were having an affair with the neighbor. The fact that they may not have met up means nothing. This is not fantasy.
I am huge into privacy, and in general, I would not be ok with phone snooping. I'd be really hard on that... usually.
In your case, it is irrelevant.
**His guilt removes any moral culpability for your snooping.**
This motherfucker WAS cheating. It's a good thing you did invade his privacy. It's ok to slap him if he tries to use this against you when you confront him.
So as I was reading this, my bloods getting up, and I'm getting angry on your behalf, and then more upset because you are even thinking about the snooping being a potential issue... then
I read that you are financially dependent on your husband. I felt like a punch in the stomach. There goes everything I would be urging you to do. Which would be essentially: "confront him, or don't but If you don't... you should leave"
That isn't a practical option. At all.
I usually do have some decent suggestions. I am not finding any easy solution here. Your situation might be one to think about, before taking any action whatsoever. (I have never in my life said that to someone who had been cheated on).
Because of the economic reality, rushing to confront him can have some serious implications for your future.
I think that you should get a consultation with a divorce lawyer to discuss the realities of your economic circumstances. You might be entitled to a lot more than you might think.
You really should ideally, know what your actual situation is before you confront him. You need to know what the exact stakes are, if you confront him and end up wanting to walk away.
Or if you decide you want to walk away without confronting him at all: you need to know what "walking away" actually would look like, to know if it's even a real option for you.
It might be more of an economically viable option than you might assume. If its at all possible, I really think a consultation with a lawyer about your specifics is a smart first step.
I think that you should hold off for now, if you can, from confronting him. But only because it might not be the most prudent move.
I am so sorry this is happening to you. Feel free to DM me if you ever want to chat, or vent or anything at all. No pressure of course.
I understand you might not want to talk about it. I honestly don't know how you got through writing those details here. It was painful just to read. But if you do don't hesitate to shoot me a message.
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Asker1 ythank you for your support
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You definitely have my support. Good luck.
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you said it perfectly. I feel so bad for her and this is cheating. actually worse than if it were just sex because he actually has feelings for this person
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542 opinions shared on Relationships topic. He's emotionally cheating and making this other woman probably uncomfortable. He's not being kind or committed to making you aware of WHY he's doing this. Is he bored? NOT a good excuse. Is he missing out? NOT a good excuse. Is he keen to find out because she was his first love? Maybe but still a shitty excuse.
SO wygd? It's a tough one because you NEED his support but it is clear he's trying to hide this "relationship" from you and that he's prepared to destroy the trust you and he should be sharing.Suggestion
1. Maybe try bringing up this woman if possible in a less than intrusive way so he can perhaps click you're aware of his interest
2. Seek contact with her through his phone to arrange some meeting that you can actually bump into them and reveal his sordid behaviourYou've found out this by devious means because you sensed something was amiss and that's perhaps underhand of you BUT it has been because you were suspicious. Bring it up as a thing and that you want to get to the bottom of.
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Asker1 yyou are correct. and this is a good idea to bring her up! she lives far away actually so can't bump into her easily but I think based on the messages that if I messaged her, she would respond. We already follow each other. She isn't a secret in general. She actually only likes my photos or pics of my daughter lol she never likes anything of him. She recently appears to of blocked him which I noticed recently. I may message her to ask why and if she's ok.
855 opinions shared on Relationships topic. First off, I just want to say I am really sorry you are going through this.
You did not imagine it, you did not overreact. You knew something was wrong in your gut, and you were right to trust yourself. He is the one who betrayed the marriage, not you.
Now to be absolutely clear…
Yes, this is 100 percent cheating.
People get confused because they think cheating only counts if there is sex involved. Wrong.
Cheating is anything that violates the emotional or physical boundaries of your relationship. If you believe this is a betrayal to you, it is betrayal. Period. And in a marriage, this absolutely qualifies. No doubt about it.
He is emotionally attached, fantasizing, investing time and energy into another woman, and he is openly disrespecting you in the process. That is not a mistake. That is a deliberate choice. He is having a full-blown affair in his mind and heart. And let’s be honest, if this woman showed any real interest, he would not be sitting in the garage texting. He would already be gone.
Also, and this is important, this is not going to be one time thing. A man who crosses emotional lines this deeply does not just magically snap out of it.
If you stay, it is very likely you will face this kind of betrayal again. Different woman, same betrayal.
Also, stop worrying about how you caught him. You had instincts screaming at you. He is the one who broke the trust, not you. Do not let him flip it around and make you the villain.
Now, my advice…
Start gathering evidence now. Take screenshots, save messages, keep records before you even think about confronting him. Consult a divorce attorney quietly. Many offer free consultations. You need to know your rights.
Get a support system in place.
Reach out to friends or family, someone who can help you line up a place to stay or help you financially if needed. Fight for spousal support and your share of the marital assets.
You were financially dependent because of the life you both built together. You are entitled to your fair share. No guilt. No apologies.
This man had a full emotional affair under your nose, and you do not owe him silence, mercy, or loyalty at the expense of yourself. Take back your power. Protect your future. You deserve better, and you already have the strength inside you to make it happen.
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Asker1 y"He is emotionally attached, fantasizing, investing time and energy into another woman, and he is openly disrespecting you in the process. " - exactly this He is attached to someone else and this is why i dont think ill get over it. it'd even be easier if he'd of slept with a random person. But he sounds like he's in love or something. He writes about he loves her face, that she's perfect, his dream woman, all these things. I will never get over this being married to someone that feels that way about someone else. What's worse is we were together for like 10 years before getting married and he's like telling her he wants to marry her and give her a 2.0 of my daughter before he's even touched her!!! Im actually going into a depression and I can't even tell anyone why
1 yI am so sorry you are experiencing this. It is devastating. His behavior was so guilty that I think you are not wrong for having gone through his phone, and that's rarely something I would say. I would not absolve the woman he is talking to regardless of her rebuffing replies. She should have shut this down immediately if she was serious. Just the fact that she is still texting with him is encouraging him, so she must be enjoying the attention or be getting something else out of the continued contact. But it seems something is seriously off in the marriage bc, as a general rule, a man who is happy in his marriage doesn't do this. That in no way makes it all right. If you are unhappy, you address that with your spouse and work to fix it for both of you. I think the only thing you can do is get into counseling. I would suggest you start and get the therapist's suggestions on how to proceed. I can imagine how hurt you must be, as well as possibly feeling scared and trapped bc of your financial reality. I wish you the best.
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Asker1 ythank you. i will say as I was writing to others, i think she replies because its a old friend. she is a pretty nice person and one of her messages actually threatened to block him if he didn't stop coming onto her. She wrote many times "you are married. focus on your wife" kind of stuff. and said he's ruining their old friendship and childhood memories. I also think i can't get over it because some of what he wrote her ill never get out of my head. there's being unhappy and there's declaring another woman above your wife. He told her she is his dream and he didn't think a woman like her even existed so perfect and he talks about how perfect her face and body is. I will NEVER get over this. He even says stuff about even beyond her looks she is perfect. I can't imagine having intimacy with him again knowing he has some other person on a pedestal like that.
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I'm here to sprinkle some love and guidance your way! First off, I totally get the whole snooping saga and emotions painting the room a fiery red. Trust is on a roller coaster here. This flirty messaging business is definitely a red flag, even if it's digital and not physical. Emotional affairs can be just as hurtful. 🌶️💔
Communicating with your husband is crucial, though. It's tricky when you've found things in a sneaky way, but you deserve answers. 📱🕵️♀️ Have an open and non-confrontational talk (try to leave the spy-glasses at home, if you can). Figuring out his intentions is key to untangling this web. Remember, love should lift you up, not tear you apart. Stay strong and remember that having a supportive friend or therapist can be a great anchor in these stormy waters. 💪😊00 Reply
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4.6K opinions shared on Relationships topic. Ummm yes that’s cheating , he is investing his time into this other girl behind your back , So if he wasn’t up to no good , he wouldn’t be doing this behind your back period. So he definitely has the intentions to cheat on you with this other girl , if this other girl said yes to him , he would be going to her without you knowing. I can’t tell You what to do , but when my wife pulled this shit on me with coworker , I immediately told her it’s over and separated from her cheating ass , even though she claims she didn’t cheat , she still had the intentions of cheating and that’s all the evidence you need to separate or divorce from his ass. Word of advice , send those messages to your phone without him knowing you did , so if you contact a divorce lawyer you can use this evidence against your husband in court and he will be paying you alimony for infidelity. If you follow through with the divorce. Do not think things will be ok , the trust you once had for him is now broken
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Asker1 ythanks. for me it actually feels worse than if he cheated with some random person because it reads like he has strong emotions. he also told her over and over how special she is to him. even if he never physically touched her, that for me is very hurtful.
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Yea emotional cheating is just as bad or worse then physical cheating so bottomline your husband is already cheating on you , if he truly loved and valued you , he would not be talking and saying those things to that girl whatsoever. My advice to you , is to not confront him with it , because he will make every excuse in the book and try to change the story around and try to play like he is a victim when really he is the POS. If I was you , I would keep hush hush about it and make your plans to leave his ass unless you want to continue staying married to a cheater
Asker1 yUnfortunately you are right probably :( Its just a shock to read what he wrote. He writes he's not thinking about me and thinking of leaving me. She doesn't even seem to care!!! She is not interested!!! Why is he throwing away his marriage for someone that doesn't even want him! She seems to be pushing him back always saying to "focus on your wife" or something like that. Or she asks about my daughter and says how cute she is or something. I also checked social media and she only liked photos of my daughter but he liked ALL of her photos.
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Well that’s good that she isn’t interested in your husband that way , but not good that your husband is saying things like that behind your back. Understand you deserve someone that loves you like you love them , life is too short to stay with someone that doesn’t. Me personally would rather be single then stay with someone that truly doesn’t love me , that just likes the convenience of you. You have every right to feel the way that you do , I been in your shoes and it’s a shitty feeling , so the best thing for you to do is make your plans to leave his ass
Asker1 ydo you think its possible he's just fantasizing and he never intended to cheat because maybe she's out of his league and he knew hey she won't say yes so he is playing around for attention to see if he can get her but if she actually said yes maybe he'd turn it down? or be afraid? like validation he still has it?
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Not at all , if she said yes , he would definitely go see her with the intentions of having sex with her without you knowing about it , then he would put you on the back burner and string you along until he decides who he wants to be with , , it’s a 50/50 chance on whether he would stay with you or divorce you to be with her instead
Asker1 yyea you are probably right. i read further into the messages as they lasted a few months and it seems like he was talking about strategy to leave me and take my child! and she has actually blocked him now lol on IG at least. I didn't notice before. What I have also found is he's sent her like 200 flowers!!! since she blocked him!!! he just keeps sending huge bouquets of flowers. I see the orders.
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This is worse cheating than random sex because he sounds like he actually has strong feelings for that woman. So even if he never gets her, he will be thinking about her and she will be on his mind forever. That is worse than getting ass from a random girl one off. Leave him
2.6K opinions shared on Relationships topic. First of all, he’s an absolute shit.
Next, she’s doing the push-pull thing where she rejects the guy to accept him. (Otherwise she would have blocked his attentions to her and been sone with it.)
You can subtlety ask him something innocently that will make him nervous — like asking if he’s ever thought of having the 2.0 version of your kid… and wink at him.
Change your makeup and style a little — nothing crazy but just enough to wonder what’s up with you and this new apparent mode you’re in.
Make an effort with your appearance just to go out on a common errand (shopping etc) without checking in with him every few minutes. Let the afternoon pass till he asks you where you are.
Turning the push-pull to YOUR advantage may get him to second guess his situation with this other female. And if it doesn’t, you’re boosting your confidence a little at a time till you’re ready to move on.33 Reply
Asker1 yI honestly dont think she is doing that. I think she just cares about him as a person and feels weird. her messages are mostly encouraging him to talk to me and focus on our family. She says very nice things about me, says he's lucky to have me, tells him to focus on me and our daughter. She also sometimes writes he is ruining their friendship and it is sad for her if he keeps at it. She even wrote she would block him if he kept it up. I really think she just cares for him as a friend and does not want to lose the childhood connection. They both went through a traumatic experience as kids and they both lost their parents so it's like some kind of bond but for her it seems platonic and my shit husband is turning it into something else. I love your idea of asking him about the 2.0 of our daughter!!! I think I am going to do this!!! Perfect mind game.
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Shittest of shits, so far as I can tell.
First going through his phone is bad but seems justified to me based on the clues you were seeing, which turned out to be true. What he is doing is WAY WAY 100 TIMES WORSE than going through his phone.
I guess if you wanted to try to talk with him about it without admitting you snooped you could ask him about her in different ways at different times and compare his story he will probably slip up and you can then confront him about that and just say what you THINK is going on and see what he says.
But honestly I think I would just throw the texts in his face and leave him.
I do not know what to say on the financial part of it but, I don’t see how this relationship can continue. I am sorry but I don’t. Maybe it can if he apologizes and tries to be better but I think he is more likely to get angry and defensive.
Do you have family you can talk to and who might be able to help? I’m sorry for you dealing with this!! Good luck!!31 Reply- 1 y
I do not endorse phone wrangling either. But she knows now. She needs to manage what is in front of her.
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1 yTell your husband what you found, and how you feel, in a calm sitdown discussion with him. Communication is the most important thing in a marriage. What happens in thst discussion will help determine the future, whether your marriage continue, or not.
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Really? You recommend talking through issues with someone that was plotting to kidnap your child? I'm pretty open-minded about all things relationship-wise, but based on the OPs comments they are way beyond that line.
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1 yShe might be his college crush, I would suggest to dig deeper first on the view it might seem your husband is behind her but what led to it?
Try to get info on it why is he so infatuated with her?
Is he having midlife crisis and maybe he wants something more and new...
If this is the only issue and he has not hurt you in any other ways then you can try to bring him on the right path..
To hold a marriage is a great thing, there will be some ups and downs like one person can loose trust in another but divorce is not a solution if this is the only issue and he is not abusive to you or your child think about it.
Men sometimes get distracted in search of new thrill then ruin their and their loved ones life
If not you who will correct him.
Understand if he is happy or not in this marriage and what he wants from the life now.
And even if this has to end it doesn't need to be bitter.
Not saying his right or supporting him but if you understand the cause you might find solution
What I feel reading his conversation it's some kind of infatuation and she might be just flaming and flirting but lowkey.
So try to get in the root of it and make it work if possible.
Other wise as every one suggested you have lots of options but can you tolerate leaving without him it's not always about the money but the bond you have built.12 Reply
Asker1 yno it goes deeper they bonded over this trauma as both lost their parents and he knew her before college I realize now. She moved away though for her career and he was always in love with her according to his messages. He calls her this dream girl perfect woman he never had. I dont think they've even kissed! she sort of sounds like she's trying to hold onto this childhood friendship and is mad he turned it sexual. I think she's blocked him as of late from what I can see on social media. But unfortunately I think he is sending her lots of flowers. I found these orders for flowers going to an address I dont know multiple times
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Having the tough conversation is the only way forward then you guys can decide what you both need
He's trying desperately to cheat to the point he's harrassing this poor woman to an extent. A lot of what he's saying is creepy and messed up and I'm sorry to say but you've married a selfish monster by the sound of this. You need to get a divorce from this POS. The good news is you've caught him and he doesn't know. Get coppies of all his messages and act normal like you don't know anything and build up as much evidence as possible. If you can prove how awful he is than with how biased our divorce courts are he'll likely get railroaded out of town and you might walk away with enough alimony you'll be perfectly fine. Also this will get your daughter to side with you when this blows up which she should. Also this is a when not an if. You can't stay because eventually he'll leave you anyways to try and be with her or someone else and you'll lose your financial stability anyways just later instead of now. Gather ammo and screw him in court. It's what he deserves in this case.
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Asker1 ythank you - this is hard to face but I know you and the others are right. The way he went after her like this. No way this just goes away.
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Based on everything here this isn't something marriage counseling can fix I'm sorry but at this point you need to think about the safety and wellbeing of you and your daughter. He's betrayed you but you're lucky in a sense because he thinks he's just fine and everything is ok and he can do whatever he wants without consequences which means you should be able to grab a lot of ammo. Speak to a lawyer as soon as you can too he'll help you figure out all the things you'll need to screw him. If he's being this sloppy with his cheating building a case shouldn't be hard. The fact he's using phrases like "Daughter 2.0" tells me he doesn't even see you and your daughter as people anymore just things that he has. He deserves to get fucked for this. Nail him to the legal cross. Right now you have the upper hand so seize the advantage.
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correct cannot be fixed. Considering how long he's cared about this woman, even if he never gets her, he's going to have a thing for her until he dies. Unless you want a husband secretly resenting you for keeping him from his dream girl and knowing you aren't his dream girl , get TF out of there. Its actually worse that he can't have her because in his head she's better than you which is disgusting and means you are married to someone who thinks another woman is above you and he actually has feelings for her and wants her. That alone will put you in an early grave from the depression
She sounds as if she does not want to cause any rift between the two of you, and he seems like he is the one pursuing her. However, she IS texting him, and anything can happen.
If I were you, I'd take pictures of his texts with your own phone, and get myself a good lawyer who can help you. What to do--do you want to stay with him and know all this? I wouldn't, but that's my opinion. he is cheating in his heart, and before it leads anywhere else, try to become more financially dependent if there is a way. However--a lawyer with proof of adultery would cream him and would award you monthly money after a divorce. If you have children, they would need to stay with you as well, as courts would decide favor the parent who did the cheating. First see a lawyer, then file a motion in a court. It takes time.
On the other hand should you want to forgive him, know that this can happen again.
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Asker1 yi think she texts him because its her friend from school. She seems to care about our entire family. In one message she called me a "goddess". She focuses mostly on my daughter. She seems to think my daughter is very cute and always looks at the pictures and says nice things about how cute m daughter is. Also she only likes his IG pics of my daughter or me. He even texted to complain she ignores his pics and sends her gym selfies because he is in very good shape. She ignores them LOL. I am not mad at her. I am devastated by my husband essentially trying to leave me for someone else and embarrassing me like this
Asker1 ythank you - I will try to find someone perhaps to discuss discreetly. Will need to see how to pay without a record because if he sees that he will blow it all up and lock down my credit card and bank card access.
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Ah, you share a bank with him? I also did when I was married, but I had a separate account for my own things. Unless you can ask the lawyer or person you see for a receipt that won't be traced by your bank. You can put money aside and pay with a bank check. I think! You'll have a receipt but it won't show on your bank record. Good luck!
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1 yYou have three choices.
Divorce him and become a single mom.
Or, stay and nothing will ever be the same. You'll be roommates by virtue of economics. You'll resent him for cheating. He'll resent you for keeping him from his dream woman. Maybe you'll both adopt a don't ask / don't tell policy and get sex outside your marriage until your kids are out of the way. Maybe you'll make good roommates. Dependable, some sort of "love", but no passion. And it won't be where you want to be. That's what I did.
You do the whole marriage counseling bullshit, cry and promise to do better and you both pretend you don't resent each other and basically end up in option #2 above anyway.
20 Reply Umm that def is cheating. I’d leave that man asap and silently put your safety first you only know someone until you don’t. Majority of crimes against women done by their partners are when they tell them they’re leaving them so stay safe and your child as well. I’m so sorry this is happening to you that’s horrible. Gosh I hate liars it’s like when someone lies to me their face change and they become unrecognizable like who r you. So yea don’t let him know you know until you’re somewhere safe would be my advice and def do leave him it’s just not worth it and not a great example for your kids to stay with a cheater.
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1 yWow that must be difficult to deal with, lucky she is/well seems like totally not down to be with him I bet she feels awkward being round him and is just too nice to tell him to F off and I get the message she is saying to him but he clearly doesn't.
It is concerning he has a crush that bad that he wants to have another kid with her but from what you have said she is smarter than that thank F for your sake.
I think this won't end well for him.
Really hope he works it out soon that he has no chance and that he is in a committed relationship with you and your family and that what he is doing is stupid.
10 Reply456 opinions shared on Relationships topic. Just tell him straight up that you looked in his phone and read the whole conversation. What a asshole is your husband unbelievable.
I would have divorced him straight away if I where in your shoes. He is trying to cheat if he hasn't already done it before. Do yourself a favor and get rid of this jerk24 Reply
Asker1 yI know. From what I can read, he is trying to leave me for her lol but she doesn't want him LOLLLL. He keeps telling her he isn't a cheater as well LOL! He is writing things about giving him a chance to explain and he even lies and says we dont sleep in the same room and he lies and says I am a horrible wife and he is very unhappy. He probably is unhappy but I haven't done anything to him.
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Yeah he makes a fool out of himself because she knows immediately he is a cheater right?
I find it very disrespectful towards you that he is communicating his unhappyness with another chick instead of with you.
Thrust me.. if you leave him before he finds someone else he is going to be miserable as fuck. And he deserves every bit of it if you ask me
Asker1 yYes. I actually think he is someone that cannot be alone. We have discussed this before as prior to me he was in a long relationship with someone he was unhappy with and I always asked why he didn't just leave and he had no answer.
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1 yNever open someone else’s phone if you aren’t ready to see what in it.
Yes he cheats on you, my advice just simple.
Once someone betrays you once, they will betray you again someday. You don’t need to drink a whole sea to know if it salty.13 Reply
Asker1 ywell its not "someone" its my husband lol. I didn't find anything else just these messages to this person seemingly rejecting him constantly and telling him to come back to me. So I dont know if he physically cheats but I can't tell if he really wants to run off with her and would he she let him or if he secretly knows he couldn't even get this girl and so is just fantasizing and tryin to see what she will say for validation that he can get girls like her to be into him. Like if she said yea ok, maybe he'd panic as divorce is no joke.
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It’s still someone if it’s outside of yourself, unless the creature is animal.
He is already emotionally cheating on you, and yeah we don’t know if he also physically cheated on u. But personally, emotionally cheating is worse for me. I’d rather to heard my man had ONS with random girl than he attracted to someone else. Even though there is no forgive for that 2 things, but the pain is different.
Asker1 yI actually agree with this which is why I am having a difficult time and posted this. From the messages I read, he sounds almost in love with her but he hasn't even touched her. That is way more painful than if he screwed some random girl while drunk or something for me. And I know that if I brought this to him, he would focus on the fact that she is turning him down because he is married and that he hasn't done anything. He even wrote in messages to her that he respects her too much to try and sleep with her while he's still with me. She's like on a pedastal or something. And I can't even really hate her because she is just ignoring him or saying "go talk to your wife" or "oh your daughter is so beautiful focus on her". I think she doesn't know what to say. It is all him. I am not one of these women that blames the other person. I am married to him and he is doing something but he hasn't?
1 yIf you want to get divorced, call a lawyer. Otherwise, call a marriage counselor. Or if you just want revenge, call your husband's best friend.
Sorry this happened. Good luck.
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Asker1 ythank you
Any updates? Did you confront him about it?
Asker1 yNo I am still doing research. I found that she has blocked him on social media actually and he is desperately sending a lot of flowers multiple times. I am trying to figure out where they went, to an office where she's working or her house to know if he knows her home address. Just doing more research. But I read more texts when I got a chance and she got mad at him for not stopping and then he got mad at her for rejecting him and she blocked him lol then he started apologizing and begging her on texts and then i see flower orders. trying to get evidence if anything else happened.
Oh ugh. So he's like actively TRYING to cheat on you. It's not like he got caught up in a moment or something.
Do you know what you're going to do? Divorce him? Forgive him? F**k his brother?
Asker1 ynot fuck any relatives for sure but I am traumatized at the moment and trying to get evidence to know how to protect myself for when I decide what I want so I have the evidence. I just know I can never forgive this
Try to save all the evidence so you can show it to your lawyer. Like on a flash drive or something. If you can't forgive him, it does sound like you're gonna need a lawyer.
Do you have any kids?Hey, I responded to your chat. Or at least I think it was your chat.
Hope things are going well.Oops no I didn't respond to your chat, because you didn't chat me, never mind.
Anyway, let me know if there are any updates.
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1 yYes he's cheating. Emotional cheating is still cheating. Honestly talk to a lawyer before confronting him. Figure out what your options are.
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1 yThis is a difficult issue. Building financial independence, e. g. taking a different job your husband doesn't control, sounds as though it may give you more options down the track.
I'm sorry your husband is an ahole.
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Anonymous(30-35)1 yHe's cheating and betraying your trust and you're snooping, betraying his trust. Some dude here says he is hard on this, but not now, that's not me. One wrong does never make a right in my book.
I don't know why you're so worried about not being able to afford to leave him, seems like he's planning to leave you, none the less only one thing you can do, and that's sit and talk. Stop being a little slave to him and his business and earn some money.
The one I feel for the most in all of this is the child.
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Asker1 ymy daughter wants for nothing ill say. not sure why you're concerned about her in that respect. we are both incredible parents. he is a great father i will say that. she doesn't even see us argue. he'd stop the earth from spinning for her. this is about our marriage not my child.
Opinion Owner1 yBecause she's stuck with you two. He's using your child, trying to score another woman and you're calling him a good dad. This makes me feel even sadder for that poor child. She going to be the sucker in this for sure, can tell with how he uses her as a pawn already and you don't give shits about it.
Opinion Owner1 yHer dad is a cheater who'd abandon his child, his mom is a loser snooper, who can't protect or feed her own child.
You're right, you two are the perfect parents. She is going to do so well in life, she'll become just like her snooping mom, depended on a man for everything in her life, justifying her own shitty actions.
I know you might think you're child is a stupid MOFO but I don't and I bet your child knows more than you think. Parents are fricking idiots when it comes to their kids, thinking they are completely unaware about everything around them.
Asker1 yyou're a f*ing freak. I am always surprised when I come across the scum of the internet even though I know it exists. Not responding any further
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Are you really bullying a woman that came on here to talk about her lying and cheating husband? You're a POS for sure. WTF is wrong with you lol Sometimes women trust their men and that trust is taken advantage of in the way their finances are handled. That doesn't mean she can't feed her kid. Maybe look in the mirror and ask yourself why you made the decision to bully a victim of financial abuse and emotional abuse by the sounds of it that anonymously created a thread because she probably doesn't know what to do. And based on your account, you are also female. I never understand why women pull each other down more than men do. SMH She is kind of right you are a freak LOL
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Also it is common for women to defend their abusers because they are still in the manipulation. I have seen that with women in my family and female friends in bad relationships in college. First she says her husband seems like a good dad, then you tell her you can understand why he would want to leave her, after defending the only behavior she had seen until she knew he betrayed her? You are fucking nuts and a bully to some random woman asking for advice online. I never understand nasty women like you but I am glad I never end up dating them lol!
1.6K opinions shared on Relationships topic. Its cheating, up to you what you do but at this point secretly looking for a faithful guy would equal the energy.
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1 yGo to a casino and make several large withdrawals. Tell your husband you lost everything gambling. Except, don’t gamble any of it of course. Make it your escape purse.
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1 yConfront him immediately. No shouting, no accusations, no drama just say what you've seen and you would like an explanation.
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Anonymous(18-24)1 yThat’s terrible!!! Confront your husband and talk to him. If you don’t like what he says, talk to a divorce lawyer. They can usually get you money if you end up divorcing him.
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1 yConfront him after you've meticulously documented your finances & suggest therapy if it's worth saving.
10 Reply 7.2K opinions shared on Relationships topic. See if you cn copy the texts and then see an attorney. This may not be as bad as you think.
10 Reply9.9K opinions shared on Relationships topic. The phone is the main tool of the cheater. Those devices are a curse.
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1 yThis is insane, please leave him. He is emotionally cheating and trying to physically cheat. I am so sorry. I hate cheaters.
10 Reply 1.7K opinions shared on Relationships topic. So why are you not also the owner of the business you run?
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Asker1 yI am co-owner but he has more than half the stake because it's his capital from his full time job that set it up. it's the way he set it up. I draw a salary from the profits
You can talk with a lawyer, or if you have any lawyer friends, you might ask them.
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1 yCheck your own phone and be sure you’re not also doing the same before possibly becoming a hypocrite
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1 yMaybe you can message her and surprise him with a threesome.
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Anonymous(18-24)1 yLose weight, build those glutes. Make sure he doesn't leave home with a loaded gun.
00 ReplyJust be upfront and confront him as soon as humanly possible
00 Reply332 opinions shared on Relationships topic. Time to ask for a divorce.
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1 ySave the texts and file for divorce.
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1 yDump that 304. Divorce him.
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1 yYeah, that’s a problem
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1 yshe is not interested in him.
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Asker1 yBut he is! that is my problem. my husband should not be available to women saying they are his dream. That actually was worse than if he'd had a one night stand with a random.
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snap shot all this and say it to him. Maybe even contact a divorce lawyer.
Anonymous(25-29)1 yTake the man for all he owns , it’s over.
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1 yOpen up the relationship
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1 yIs he HV?
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Asker1 ywhat is HV?
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@Asker HV
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@asker High Value
1 yBreak up. Simple as.
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