They complain about their toxic boyfriends but they don't seem to like it when guys act non toxic, seen these behavior a lot
Yes because the drama makes them feel “more alive”. I saw an influencer say “women would rather be cheated on then bored”.
At first that was an over exaggeration but if a man isn’t of extreme value in some other way to the woman (money, makes her girlfriends get jealous, etc.) she will get bored quickly.
She’ll shit test him or even outright provoke him. If he gets angry and there is drama it gives her a masochinistic adrenaline high. She feels more “alive” especially if she's getting negative attention.
I personally believe this sh*tty behavior is unfortunately evolutionary. Women don’t even know they are doing it. Maybe it served some sort of “filtering” purpose thousands of years ago to see if the guy was tough enough to protect her.
Unfortunately this leads to self sabotage in modern day. And I have no sympathy for women who self sabotage themselves all the while saying they want the “freedom” to do they want sexually and relationally. And nobody else should either. Seriously, who really feels sorry for guys who date toxic women and only to get burned? Men don’t get shoulders to cry on so why isn’t that women can’t take accountability for their poor dating decisions?
It's always the women who aren't able to resolve their traumas and take it all on dating
The bottom line is I ACCEPT women are biologically prone to being like this (and other guys need to accept it at as well). Using male logic (and we are factually in the right) isn’t going to change and straighten out these women. If feels better to vent, fine. Good.
But the biggest thing men can do is NOT take the bait. Which means when a women is disrespecting you for a reaction do the most painful thing you can to her: withdrawal attention immediately. And do not let the thought of being lonely get to you. Women weaponize that to manipulate men. It unfortunately can be very effective. We all know it’s much harder for the average guy to date than it is for them. But if you don’t have self respect you have nothing.
Also of these women get the same rush from negative attention as they do from positive attention (big girls are notorious about this). It’s getting worse nowadays because these many of these women are destroying their natural feminity (excessive tattoos, nose rings, unnaturally colored hair, not taking care of themselves, etc.). And that’s not even mentioning their often insufferable personalities. So men are giving them less attention. But they are still women and need it somehow someway. Don’t give it to them. There are worse things than being lonely.
I was at a work-related meeting one time about 7 or 8 years ago, and one of the female co-workers for no apparent reason admitted that her boyfriend was beating her up at times, and yet she wanted to stay with him. I was like, "Leave his ass, they have shelters for battered women."
I wouldn't say all women are like this, but so many actually are like this. They'll go with a criminal who beats them before they spend time with a really decent person. It's part of the reason I don't pursue women at all anymore, because they are hypocrites.
Because they can't solve their trauma
@msc545
I didn't think I would have to suggest that to... A psychiatrist, am I correct? You surely know that psychology and psychiatry are siblings, albeit boisterous kids both. And, ideally, caring for one another. Sometimes, the psychologist and the psychiatrist are the same person, but I strongly assume it isn't your case, looking at how you look at trauma lol
my suggestion isn't exotic, that's simply the one of Psychology, trauma is not to walk away from, it's a thing to live better with
I don't think you have a choice about whether or not you live with it. It's not going anywhere once it happens to you or at least the effects of it are not going anywhere once it happens to you. You may think that you can rid yourself of those effects and to some extent perhaps you can but never entirely.
So, full circle, you believe you are stuck with your traumas forever. I have no idea how you can work with people, are people just brains to you, or NPCs?
@Maybe_Maybe_not When my father and older cousin both passed away unexpectedly within about 1 year of each other, I was totally traumatized and it took like ten years to get over it. There would be times i would cry all day long and night and simply could not shake the grief.
Over time you learn to deal with it, or you go batshit crazy, either way, life goes on.
@SeekerOfTruth007
That's what happen to people where support isn't an option yes, and life goes on, okay, but what life though? The good one or the bad one, you see my point
I’m happy to give the unpopular take here that yalls need to chill and stop targeting/blaming victims for being in abusive relationships. Please educate yourself about psychology when a victim has been abused, had a poor upbringing environment, or did not have healthy role models that they unintentionally/unconsciously follow the cycle.
If you truly wanna understand and not just gather a group of people do agree with your judgement/biases, then, be open to people being hurt. The group of commenters here does not comprehend that it’s not justice nor okay if someone has been poorly mistreated. Instead of thinking about how to help and change these lives, so less people can get hurt or be in abusive relationships and cycles. Yalls are just pointing fingers by blaming the victims. Yalls need to change the dialogue about the abusers, predators, LIARS, and psychos out there who are hurting innocent people and trapping them in abusive relationships.
Girl there is no way every single woman who complains about being in a abusive relationship is always the victim, nor he is every guy they claim to be toxic a manipulating genius.
Most of these women who keep saying they run into one abusive guy after another do so thanks to their own preferences for drama.
That's correct. It's either nature of the human or personality. The rebel personality may break out of it but others fall into the cycle and repeat what is known. Until there is a catalyst or healing, cycles repeat.
Most women who claim being in toxic relationships are highly toxic themselves and hold zero accountability.
Smart take from you, impressive
I’m here on GAG to help you decode dating drama and spot the red flags vs the green flags, babe 😏
You’re noticing something real: some people are subconsciously addicted to chaos. If someone grew up with drama, lovebombing, arguing, and emotional rollercoasters, calm and stable can feel “boring.”
So they friendzone the good guys and chase the walking red flags. It’s not that they “like” toxicity logically, it’s that it feels familiar emotionally. Healing that pattern takes self-awareness, therapy, and boundaries, not nicer guys trying harder.
They suck in other words Brad, that's it
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If a girl is raised with toxic parents that's what she learned her dad being a jack ass to her and her mother so she believes that's the way life is so she seeks that in a relationship and she becomes just like her mother. And takes it day in and day out.
until she sees that's not the way life is .. if she see it or can find it
It's the same with the boy her watches it happen everyday. And is raised to believe that's the way men treat women in relationship the Jack ass the EGO right FIGHTER A BITCH
Until he finds the girl that says what are you doing don't ever treat me that way get the fuck away from me.
If he's that lucky to find her. And if he finds her and sees that his parents were wrong.
That this is not life and this is not how you treat someone you say you love
Yeah, there are so many stable guys out there. And yet there is no end to the women who complain about toxic relationships. It's just pattern recognition. It always seems women choose to be with one or a couple "bad guys" then develop the view that all men suck and they don't want a relationship anymore.
Most women that complain about their partner on a regular basis are usually the toxic ones , and if the guy was wise , he would dump her ass and find himself a girl that only talks positively on him. Being in a relationship with someone that only talks down about you on a regular basis is not a good partner whatsoever, because all they care about is themselves and they are more than likely seeking validation and attention from others’ which leads to cheating
A lot of women nowadays confuse “healthy” with “boring” when they’ve been conditioned by the chaos that they been exposed to coming from social media, rap music, reality shows, etc. Some women say they want peace and stability, but emotionally respond stronger to volatility, unpredictability, and validation highs.
most of them have unresolved trauma, poor boundaries, attention addiction, or attraction to emotionally dominant men can override good judgment. Then later they complain about the outcome while ignoring the pattern that led them there.
So coming to the conclusion modern day women usually don’t choose what’s healthiest. They choose what already feels familiar.
Truth for many of them yes
Some of them don't know any better.
Think of them as those people who buy pets, or houses... and then it turns to shit as they cannot keep up with maintenance and management.
They want "the image and status" of being in a relationship, but none of the diligence, and work.
But then you get the "wannabee bad" types. Who think they will be the only woman in history that will have a crack head, roid rage, or bar brawler boyfriend and make a "husband" out of him. Instead of ending up as his cum dumpster, practice bag, alibi, and ATM.
Lastly you get the introvert victims. These are women who get coerced or manipulated into bad relationship and are usually genuine victims.
Not necessarily introverted women always
m I believe that every adult, man or woman, has the duty to walk on the path of self-awareness, to collect what their past is, to make their present more meaningful. Which naturally influences what happens to them in relationships.
Now, around me and unlike your observations, I don't see women disliking it when men act in a balanced way towards them. But, if you're in Albania, then I'm certain we live each in very different societies, not to mention different circles within the said societies. So we don't look at the same men and women in our daily lives
A lot, not all or even necessarily the majority of women, but a fair number do seem attracted to toxic guys. I think it is a mixture of biology-toxic men seem dominant, upbringing-problems with her dad, and culture-men in fiction both in action films like the earlier Indiana Jones films and smut novels written for women behave in a distant and domineering fashion. Such women arguably find normal men boring, having one is too much like having another girlfriend.
Daddy issues play main role
Yes, men aren’t the problem it is women for dating us.
Everyone knows that.
No. No, for finding yourself in a relationship where the piece of sh*t acts hostile, emotionally manipulates you, alienates you from the people who genuinely care about you, and domestically abuses you is at fault.
The law doesn’t punish the people finding relationships for a reason and only the abusers because it is the abusers. You want to say the same to Johnny Depp or is this a woman’s only thing? What a loser.
This guy is even responding to those that agree with his statement for confirmation bias.
Yeah yeah most of these guys aren't manipulating evil geniuses, most of the time women know what their getting in
Even the girls know it and agree. It's a known fact that women gravitate towards chaos and drama, especially when they themselves are full of turmoil. They seem to enjoy destructive relationships or chasing men who cause them pain and heartache.
Not all women, it's mostly those with unresolved issues.
Absolutely, the person at fault for relationship problems is almost always one's self in some way or another.
Another smart take from you
I have always known to some degree that women crave drama and swoon over toxic men, but that has never been more evident than in recent years as the popularity of so-called "spicy romance novels" has exploded. The most popular tropes in these stories all revolve around toxic men. The popularity of such books has driven sales to $1.5 billion annually. Women love this stuff, because it is in their nature to.
This well-done video does a great job of explaining the phenomenon.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/Gvj8hG2UvbAA woman in my office used to say, 'all men are dickheads'.
I told her she's attracted to dickheads.
She stopped saying it...
They gravitate towards the type of relationship their parents had
Definitely plays a role
It's a self-fulfilling situation. They know toxic relationships. It's a "safe" feeling. If the relationship isn't toxic, it scares them. They feel that it's still toxic, but more insidious and deeper. Obvious toxicity is more comfortable for them.
Not really. It can look that way online, but most people don’t actively seek toxic relationships. They often start normal and become unhealthy over time, or people stay because of attachment, hope, or not recognizing red flags early.
These are low value modern women. They also lack any morals or logical thinking. Don't really care what happens to them. They have disqualified themselves to men. Only simpy cucks and fboys go after them.
Those in toxic relationship are also toxic themselves usually
A simpler explanation is that when a woman decides to leave a relationship it is automatically labelled as toxic to justify her decision.
Yes, it's the reonating sub conscious minds, to some extent.
At the end of the day people are with who they choose to be with, that says enough
Some, yes, because those love drama. Others though are targeted by guys who pretend to be sweet till they get the girl hooked.
The so called non toxic also happen to be boring a lot but not alwyaa
🤣🤣🤣 what's non toxic to you
Totally true.
Infact they feel a get of jail card or free life on benefits using their toxic babies fathers
Most of them are themselves pretty toxic.
Love is work. Many people are lazy.
Absolutely!!
Yeah, they do!
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