
Do you believe life after death?


well there certainly is "life" after death, cause your body doesn't die as your brain stops working. your inner cells and microorganisms continue to live. they will be transformed and eaten by other microorganisms and you'll decay, giving live to new organismns. however your "ego" (the thing you refer to when you say "i") will be gone forever, as that's a function of your brain and as your brain dies and decomposes, it will be gone.
Lol didn't mean to be "deep" xD that's just how it is. The ego is nothing but a thinking pattern. It's not a physically existing thing.
You say will be gone forever but have no way to verify that that's the case.
@Hurdleez-Swampede yeah i have. you can measure brain acticity. if there's no brain activity, there's no ego, cause the ego is an activity of the brain. dead people have no activity of the brain. makes sense?
That just means the afterlife isn't of a natural essence. It doesn't prove that the afterlife is not real. It only shows that we can't verify it to be real.
So you can associate you as only what your brain is but it doesn't make it true.
@Hurdleez-Swampede there is nothing outside of nature. cause nature is defined as all there is in existence. if it's "outside" of nature that means it's outside of existence meaning it doesn't exist.
the "ego" is a function of the brain, just like the "society" is a structure of relationships between people. take away people and there's no society. take away the brain and there's no ego.
That's your definition of it. It doesn't make it true.
Since something was the first thing ever, nothing could have determined it to exist or it couldn't have a choice whether to exist or not so existence can't be known what it all entails of. Saying nothing outside of nature exists might not be true as we can't tell if it is true or false.
Okay, then, then what gave rise to the existence of the brain? When did the brain first get its existence and what sparked it or gave rise to it? What started our existence?
If our brains came into being, what determined it to exist? Whatever is the first thing ever to exist can't decide not to exist or decide to exist as it would be existence eternally and had no cause and effect precursors to it.
@Hurdleez-Swampede what makes you assume something was the first thing ever? we have no reason to assume that.
you can read the information about how and why the brain evolved in the respective books. there are also books about how and why the ego developed. i don't get paid to educate you on this and i'm not saying this out of condescend. i'm saying that, cause this isn't something you can easily pull out of your ass like god xD that's actually complex stuff to research and it's not super quickly explained, so that's why i won't do that.
also there's no benefit in me doing that, cause you'll allways go back to your bullshit argument of "what if we just don't know it yet". this argument can never be an argument for something existing. it can only be a starting point to research. and as long as it can't be verified, we can not assume it's true.
why don't you spend your time finding out about what we do actually know instead of wasting your time proving something that people have failed to prove for over 2000 years?
i guess just argumenting with stuff you pull right out of your ass is easier than actually knowing things right?
Because infinite regressing is impossible as it would be the result of a cause and effect relationship. If some also preceded something, we'd never arrived to now at this point in history.
But it's not a bull crap suggestion. We once didn't know DNA existed but discovered it did later. The same could happen with God.
Something evolving would have to be evolved from something so preceding back infinitely in the past means something had no thing to evolve from but always was. Anything has always existed is God, whether conscious or not.
@Hurdleez-Swampede infinite regression is only impossible if the universe wasn't infinite. we have no reason to assume the universe is finite, cause we can't see where it ends. big bang doesn't mean "everything THAT EXISTS was once in one place" it only means "everything THAT WE CAN SEE was once in one place". we don't know jack shit about the parts we can't see and we have no reason to assume there's god somewhere there.
we once didn't know dna existed but then we found it. that's the right order. you don't first know it exists and then find it. when will you finally understand the correct order of "knowing" things?
god by the way doesn't end an infinite regression. if you want to end the infinite regression, just assume the universe was always there. pulling "god" out of your ass and claiming that he was always there is an unneccessary (as in doesn't add any explanatory power) and therefore not legitimated additional step. why would you just make up shit and then assume that the shit was always there instead of concluding that what is already there for you to see was always there? it makes no freaking sense.
i don't expect you to understand this given that you've shown a strong resistence to understanding, cause you either want that god exists and you don't care for truth or you litterally don't get it like this guy here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3bEh-PEk1g
"but what if we don't know it despite it existing?" well then we don't know. period. we can't just assume and then treat that assumption as if it was the truth. get that into your stubborn head.
i hereby give up on you and i will now block you, cause i don't wanna be tempted to waste my time of you again like i just did. i thought there was hope but evidently there isn't. educate yourself. stop assuming stuff that you don't know. good luck. cya.
Yes I do we could even possibly meet in heaven one day and look back on this very day how we met on Gag when I had asked you before do you need a driver remember?
Heaven and hell are man made concepts to help scared children sleep at night. If you think logically about it there is no way for a soul to live on in any kind of different reality. The soul is our brain. When you die, you are brain dead and thus the person you were, all your memories and thoughts will cease to exist.
You can say that but have no way of actually verifying that to us. It's just your opinion that death is the eternal champion of the universe.
ATM I think when we due we'll just stay on earth and watch over our families until the earth is recycled and we start again (that's for the good people)
The bad people will just go to hell and be tormented.
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What's Your Opinion? Sign Up Now!I have no reason to think there is anything after death.
One question I like to pose is this:
If Darwin’s theory of natural selection is true, then if you believe in an after life, do bacterias get to go to heaven? Do microbes go to heaven? Do fish go to heaven? Do reptiles, birds, amphibians go to heaven? If humans went to heaven, since when? Did Australopithecus go to heaven? Evolution is a gradual process, so any particular point god chose to allow go to heaven would be a purely arbitrary choice, when he could’ve picks their parents or their descendants.
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So if there is an afterlife, only Heaven is the only form of afterlife? What if some get an afterlife and some don't? Is it predestined to all or selected by God? What if there's no God but is an afterlife? What if there is a God but no afterlife?
Beasts and insects have no concept of morality like humans do so it would make sense if there is an afterlife, that it is possible only humans gets it but who knows.
Good bacteria goes to Heaven but bad bacteria goes to Hell.
@Hurdleez-Swampede No. There are literally countless different ideas about the afterlife.
But for people who believe mainly the Abrahamic god, the difference between animal and humans are not as distinct as it may seem. When in human history did our ancestors start going to heaven.
Well, I’m just gonna say, that changes a lot of Christian theology.
The point I’m making is this, yes Christians can be scientific. But if they are scientific, they would have to change their beliefs radically to the point it’s no longer recognizable as the original.
Absolutely there is an after life, I have a soul and my body house this soul. The body can only live so long but your soul is eternal that does not die. It is written; Just as a man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgement, so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him. Hebrews 9:27-28
The universe is insane. Makes no sense. And whatever it is. Its one heck of a show stopper
Information can't actually be erased. It may change but not erased. When you delete something that energy absorbs back into the space around us
Our information will continue on to live. And we just cease to exist. Nothing left. Its the sum of our parts that gives us senses and awareness
That could be a very sad, meaningless reality. We are nothing. Worth nothing. A product of chance. A mistake maybe
—> the far more pleasant thought is a devine lord. A heaven. Image heAven. How free. How beauitful. How loving. Warm. Puppies everywhere —> we are now special. Worth something
Yes. To think that people like Stalin and Hitler could do such evils and other people could do such great things in life and to lump all of them together with an afterlife of nothingness is absurd in the highest degree.
The fact that people feel conviction after doing such evils usually shows that mankind is separated from the beasts and insects.
Sure, it doesn't mean that because I want there to be an afterlife doesn't imply it is true but it also is true that just because people don't feel there is an afterlife, doesn't make that true either.
I definitely believe now after meeting the decider on where you go after death and it's not looking good for me let's just say the first thing it test you on is your virginity so make sure you save yourself till you get married that's all I can say about that wish I did
Ye a don't no how a can be forgiven for my sin do you have any advice? It would be much appreciated. I no this is no excuse but I saved myself till I was with the women I thought i was going to spend the rest of my life with and she asked me to sleep with her before we married but then just ended up leaving me before we married without any reason just never spoke again and she just left
I see no reason to believe there is an afterlife of any kind, especially a heaven or hell or some other realm where you somehow retain your memories and personality.
That doesn't mean that some form of an afterlife doesn't exist, but there's no real reason to believe that one does.
I think death is just the end of a person's physical existence. I don't believe in a hell and heaven for me is just spiritual freedom. Like when you have successfully lived a good life and don't need a physical form anymore, your soul earns the freedom to exist without any limitations. Explore the universe, live a life on another world, influence nature, that sort of thing.
I'm not really sure on it, but I'd rather there isn't a heaven and hell, because I don't know where I'd end up and whether or not a religion is the path to take me there - I'd rather just die in peace TBH.
I'm agnostic, but rule out the possibility of there being a god, afterlife or some religion being true, I'd just rather there isn't, but it's definitely something I'm quite paranoid about and if I died on the wrong path and have to deal with god, I'm screwed.
Why were you created? Why does life exist? Why is there so much diversity? How did life begin? Where did the planets stares and space come from?
@goodlongman dont worry about Ash , she is for abortion , so I doubt she is going to like life after death very much
Well unless you were there at the time and knew everything, then how would you yourself know? Why does god put us in a position to fail? 'Oh I'm god, I'm a nice guy, but you're going to hell for ever because you didn't believe in XYZ.' With a god like that, who needs the devil? I mean think about it, isn't the devil just another one of god's creation and supposed to be in hell punishing those who 'deserve it' anyway?
@uniqueone96. People think they can change your beliefs and thats one of the most annoying things. I think being agnostic is the most fair, we aren't swaying anyone into certain beliefs.
I literally ignore people being annoying idiots at this point, suggest you so the same because people will argue if you say the sky is blue
I get what you mean about ignoring, but I almost always get back to people, because I may be seen as someone who runs away, even though it looks like the other way round, as I responded and have yet to get a reply back from whoever challenged my belief. I agree with you about being agnostic, because either side of it (atheism and theism) are both big claims to make, especially the former, so staying in the middle is a fair point and may well be the least ignorant, as there may not even be a right and wrong answer when it comes to being agnostic. I made a mistake in my original answer and meant to say 'I don't rule out the possibility of there being a god', it was a typo, though, I didn't suddenly change my views. It's nice to see someone that shares my beliefs though, so thank you.
Im all about getting back at people, just saying there's certain people on here that will keep it going just for the fun of it, and these are the two. That poor mans comedian thing has also been deliberatly stalking me, he is blocked and gag is legitamatly monitoring him so I don't know how he's even seeing anything of mine. But yes, i see all where your coming from, just thought id give a tip from the people your dealing with, its a never win and pointless.
Fair point and thanks for the advice. Something kind of similar happened the other day, where someone replied to someone I had replied to, on some old question and I replied back and they never did, I think this might be the same case, at least I'd rather it be that.
I acknowledge the fact that i don't know. My current life is not ruled by the thing i want im my afterlife. I am okay with my desires in this life and wouldn't care if you prove there is or isn't one. My current life is not affected nor the worst people nor the best and let's nit get into the conversation of relativism in judgments.
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I once traveled to New Jersey, but later left, so, yes, I believe in "Life After Death".
God says there is an afterlife, and God cannot lie, His Word is all I need to know it exists.
To be honest as a philosopher that is one of the biggest confusion I face
Why were you created? Why does life exist? Why is there so much diversity? How did life begin? Where did the planets stares and space come from?
Only the Christian Bible (made up of 66 books) of all world religions explains each of these
Not really and only as viewed by men... the GOD of the Bible tells us all things
What does Hinduism say about creation? (Don't sound like an explanation to me...)
In the beginning there was neither existence nor non- existence; there was no atmosphere, no sky, and no realm beyond the sky. What power was there? Where was that power? Who was that power? Was it finite or infinite?
There was neither death nor immortality. There was nothing to distinguish night from day. There was no wind or breath. God alone breathed by his own energy. Other than God there was nothing.
In the beginning darkness was swathed in darkness. All was liquid and formless. God was clothed in emptiness.
Then fire arose within God; and in the fire arose love. This was the seed of the soul. Sages have found this seed within their hearts; they have discovered that it is the bond between existence and non-existence.
Who really knows what happened? Who can describe it? How were things produced? Where was creation born? When the universe was created, the one became many. Who knows how this occurred?
Did creation happen at God's command, or did it happen without his command? He looks down upon creation from the highest heaven. Only he knows the answer -or perhaps he does not know.
Rig Veda 10:129.1-7
What does Buddhism say about creation? (one out of 3 not too bad)
There are three schools of thought regarding the origin of the world. The first school of thought claims that this world came into existence by nature and that nature is not an intelligent force. However, nature works no its own accord and goes on changing.
The second school of thought says that the world was created by an almighty God who is responsible for everything.
The third school of thought says that the beginning of this world and of life is inconceivable since they have neither beginning nor end. Buddhism is in accordance with this third school of thought. Bertrand Russell supports this school of thought by saying, 'There is no reason to suppose that the world had a beginning at all. The idea that things must have a beginning is really due to the poverty of our thoughts.'
What does Islam say about creation? (I'm still scratching my head on this one)...
The descriptions of creation in the Qur'an are not intended as dry historical accounts but rather to engage the reader in contemplating the lessons to be learned from it. The act of creation, therefore, is frequently described as a way of drawing the reader into thinking about the order of all things and the All-Knowing Creator Who is behind it all. For example:
"Verily in the heavens and the earth are signs for those who believe. And in the creation of yourselves, and the fact that animals are scattered (through the earth), are signs for those of assured faith. And in the alternation of night and day, and that fact that Allah sends down sustenance from the sky, and revives therewith the earth after its death, and in the change of the winds, are signs for those who are wise" (45:3-5).
What does Christianity say about creation? (straight forward and makes since)
God created the universe, including the earth, in the indefinite past—“in the beginning,” as Genesis 1:1 says. Modern science agrees that the universe had a beginning.
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So do all other religions books ---- I only responded to you
I believe that life after death is exactly the same as life before birth
I think he's referring to a common phrase. People often say there has to be an afterlife, because they just can't imagine what it's like not to exist. If you want to imagine what it's like not to exist, remember what life was like before you were born. It's exactly the same.
Yes but you wouldn't be conscious if you had an existence prior to birth or not tho. You could have existed before birth but didn't realize it.
Dont know.
Nobody knows when the repeated life circle will end.
Yes i believe in afterlife because i believe in god and jesus...
The heaven or hell doesn't look the way we know, they are different i guess...
Since in the media there have been several depictions of heaven and hell, in the end you can't define either of them. Thus you can't tell either if there's a clear difference between only two destinations we might end up in.
Nope, and I personally have no issues with just. not existing anymore.
But it doesn't mean you're right and would you have a problem with existing forever?
Yes, there is a heaven and hell... Heaven will be better than we can possibly imagine and hell will be worse than we can possibly imagine.
I just want to say here that I commented 2 days before sexy ash even commented here, so if anyone is doing any stalking , it is the rich brat sexy ash , stalking me. I think she is in love with me , always follows me and comments when I comment. It could be she is just paranoid.
@Poormanscomedian --- my friend if @SexyAshh was staking you, you would be a blessed man she is fantastic... LOL
I won't know what happens until I experience it myself
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