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It seems like a pretty sexist religion. Aren't Muslim men rewarded multiple virgins in Heaven? What do women get?
Pretty sure that's just a reward for sacrificing yourself in the name of the religion.
It’s not a sexist religion. Both men and women get whatever they want in Paradise. So if a man wants multiple virgins, that is what he will get and if a woman wants multiple virgins that is what she will get.
Source: sheikhynotes.blogspot.com/.../...ise-in-islam.html
Misinterpretation. Muslims, both men and women alike, are given an abode in heaven, where there are 80 000 servants and 72 houri. These houri is what people translate to simply "virgins" while yes, they would be virgins this would not be the point of them. They're "untouched beforehand buy man or jinn" in many aspects they're roughly the same as the biblical angels. Nobody says anything about the angels being virgins, but people do about the houris. It's also not said anywhere that these houri are even human.
Misinterpretation? That’s a source literally from Islamic scholars but okay, I’m sure you know better than people who dedicate their lives to studying Islam lol
Nowhere in the Quran is this actually written. Scholars are just regular people trying to interpret the quran. I advice finding your own interpretation instead of seeing other's interpretation as absolute truth
Also, when I said "misinterpretation" this wasn't a response to your reply, hell, I barely even read yours. I was simply responding to billy.
No🤦🏾♀️
Scholars are people who have studied Islam, studied Quran and Hadith, even studied Classical Arabic. Scholars are mentioned in authentic the authentic Hadith: www.abuaminaelias.com/.../
And apologies I misread your reply.
Yes, so just regular people trying to interpret the Quran.
Calling scholars the successors of the prophets is an insult to the old prophets.
I'm not sure why Mohammed would have said this, but surely he can't have meant this in a direct manner
Are they regular people? Yes, but they are also people of knowledge with years of studying and the Hadith said that scholars are successors of the Prophets- so doesn’t that give them a type of authority that say someone who isn’t a scholar wouldn’t have?
It’s like going to someone who’s just read a few Acts of Parliament for legal advice, instead of going to a lawyer who has dedicated many years to studying the law. Obviously you’re going to to the lawyer because they’re more knowledgeable on the law than say someone who has just read a few Acts of Parliament.
I wouldn't give them any sort of authority at all. They're just people. Yes their knowledge will be several folds the knowledge you contain, but having authority? No. They simply interpret. Like every other person that is interested enough in the religion. Even scholars disagree with other scholars. It just shows that they don't know absolute truth either and it's all personal interpretation
To add my 2 cents there, the difference is that the law is precise and based in facts. While theology is subjective and open to interpretation. Quoting an interpretation can quickly lead to the fallacy argument from authority, which explains how an authority isn't neccesarily a fact. Quoting the original scripts from the quran would be better here 😊
@TwistedTube Then you’re going against what Hadith teaches. I don’t understand why you wouldn’t consult a scholar given they are the most knowledgeable people on Islam, it’s like not consulting a lawyer for legal advice- it’s absurd. It was not wrong for Muhammad (pbuh) to say that scholars are successors of the Prophets as we follow Muhammad (pbuh) as our Prophet- surely it would be correct to say that the Messenger of Allah knows Islam better than both you and I do? As a Muslim you must accept both Quran and authentic Hadiths.
People who have studied Islam for basically their entire lives can interpret Islam better, than both me and you- because they know more about the history, the Classical Arabic language etc, to say you know better than a scholar I’m sorry to say this, but it’s arrogance.
@TallAnon Islamically you are supposed to refer to scholars who back up their interpretation with either the Quran or the Hadith.
The thing is with quoting scripts from the Quran, an issue is that the language the Quran was originally written in is Classical Arabic- so when quoting verses in English, you have issues of translation. Hence, we have scholars who explain the verses to us, just like if you were confused about a certain section of the law you’d have a legal expert explain to you, right?
Moreover, the Quran isn’t the only source Muslims use. The Quran is the main most authentic authority, second to the Quran comes the Hadiths.
I want to correct a few things that you're saying here. There's plenty of reason to consult a scholar. However, you can't take what they say as absolute truth but only as a guide to help you interpret yourself.
Secondly, yes, the prophet absolutely knows more about the islam than I do, as would these scholars. That however does not mean that their interpretation can still be wrong. Interpretation is not the same as knowledge, and can't be used as such. I've never said that I know more about the islam than a scholar. What I said is that you can't blindly follow the interpretations of scholars, but that you should find your own.
@TwistedTube Akhi, we take what the Quran and Hadiths say as absolute truth. Nowhere did I say we take what scholars say as absolute truth, but if there is a matter we are unsure about, such as religious rulings or something in the Quran or Hadiths then the best person we can go to is a scholar- especially for religious rulings. You just said you wouldn't give a scholar any sort of authority at all. Yet a Mufti has the authority to give rulings on religious matters- so they determine Shariah and Fiqh. An Aalim is a transmitter and interpreter of Islamic doctrine and law and religious knowledge. Like it or not, the Hadiths state the scholars are people of knowledge when it comes to Islam, so that's how we understand the Quran, Hadiths, and religious rulings.
Answer me this: If you needed legal advice, would you yourself read an Act of Parliament and come to your own conclusion, or would you consult a legal expert?
Personally, I would consult a legal expert because, yes, I could read an Act of Parliament and gain some understanding of the law, a legal expert will know the law better than me, and chances are they will know things that I don't about the law.
So why would consulting an Islamic scholar be any different, as opposed to having "your own interpretation." It's not blindly following scholars, if you know their credentials, and when they issue fatwas or teach you about any aspect of Islam- they back it up with evidence from the Quran or authentic Hadiths. You'd consult an expert to teach you about anything else, so why is learning about Islam any different?
I would consult a legal expert to give me a better understanding of the law. And I would consult a scholar to give me a better understanding of islam. In either way I still wouldn't take any of what they say as how it is. It would help me to further search into the truth.
Just to clarify, are you a Muslim or are you somebody that's a non-Muslim giving your opinion about Islam?
I'm a non-muslim that has been interested in the islam for a while and been doing my own research about it since 17. Currently 23 so I suppose thats 6 years worth of research. Other then that I like discussing things with Muslims to further enhance my knowledge.
Oh right apologies, I assumed you were Muslim. That's my mistake. That's why I was getting confused lol, because I thought you were a Muslim.
Feel free to message me or anything if you have anything you would like to discuss about Islam, I'm a Muslim and I personally believe that Islam is the truth :)
I'd like to believe but alas I don't. Instead I'm just pondering into things. Sadly believe is not just a choice despite what people like to say
And I respect that. As the Quran says: "You have your way, and I have my Way" (109:6). But I'm interested, what do you mean when you 'believe is not a choice?'
That's something I can chime in to, no matter how hard you try, you won't believe santa claus is real, right? For many of us, it's similar for religions.
You can choose to be open for believing, but you can't choose to actually believe. I would love to believe, and it would fulfill me with a sense of purpose and like I'm truly part of something. But I still don't believe. Not because I don't "choose to" but simply because I don't
@TallAnon Ah right, I see. But see, I mean this with respect, but I find that to be illogical to a certain degree. Because when atheists discuss proof of God, they often mean that they want God to literally come down and say to us "I exist" right? And because He hasn't done that in our lifetime to anybody- atheists claim that there is no evidence that God exists. But on the flip side, is there any proof to that same standard to say God doesn't exist?
@TwistedTube Ah, I see. Thank you for explaining. So what is it that stops you from believing? You don't have to answer that if you don't want to, I understand belief is something that is personal to many. (:
There will never be a proof of god that's why it's called a belief. Atheists don't believe in anything you can't proof, that's all. There is no need to proof something doesn't exist
@SpiderManFan2002 nothing is stopping me from believing. I really simply just don't. I'm not sure why there would have to be something. For instance, I could be practicing all the Islamic laws, not committing any acts of haram, read the quran everyday, pray 5 times a day, but I still wouldn't be Muslim simply because I don't actually believe. And as long as I don't believe all those things would be meaningless. I'd never be fulfilled with meaning, and every time I would be praying I would be talking to thin air instead of Allah.
You also can't prove that santa claus isn't real, that doesn't mean he is. There's simply no reason for us to assume he is real. And why would santa claus be real and not the tooth fairy? There's nothing that would cause me to believe one religion more than another, they all have the same credibility if none of them have proof.
If anything, think of it this way (I think this works for most religions), if Allah meant for me to believe in him, I would've believed in him. I don't, so either the religion is fake, or this is how it's supposed to be and that's ok.
Lmao 😂🤣 hijab is to show that women are Muslim so Muslim men don't harass them. Because according to Islam, only Muslims are to be protected by the law. Allah doesn't tell Muslim men to not harass but tells Muslim women that if they don't wanna be harassed then they should wear hijab.
That is one of the main problems in this world, people judge one another while knowing nothing about that person. Each person is an individual and should be treated as such. We should respect each others choices.
I love Muslim women and I’ve had Muslim girlfriends before including my current one.
They come from a female oppressed culture, what do you mean?
The culture oppresses Muslim women but not the religion.
Religion in general is oppression, sometimes they realize that, other times they don't.
I typically don't remark on articles of clothing though.
It is the most privileged people that see the oppression everywhere they look.
BUT
The reality is that women in many Islamic cultures truly have no choice but to wear hijabs in public.
Most that wear it especially when it's a 100 degree outside better wear lest the deeply insecure muslim moron of man beat her if she shows her face in public without a covering.
My mom wears it and my dad literally never asked her to? I hate it when people speak in our name it's so condescending we're not children...
Also you clearly don't know what is the best way to dress in a desert. If you want to walk around naked in the desert the good luck with all the sun damage on your skin and brain and sand getting in your eyes. Even men wear head coverings in that climate.
@NorthAfrican: In your country it isn't forced while in other Islamic country is. A woman with her head uncovered is subject to getting her brains beat in by her idiot husband.
Don't be an r-word
I lived in Saudi arabia
ffs y'all love to speak in our names without having ever met people from those "places"
No.. its' the C4 sticks they have straped to their bodies is what the problem is. Besides Muslim women need to take that shit off. it's the year 2021 not 400
BC.
Because the only way those people would even wear a face mask is when they are being oppressed. So obviously you must be being oppressed as well.
I think it is more weird that women who wear Hijab wear tons of make-up... which takes away the whole function of the Hijab.
i think all of them. i don't consider decisions made based on religious indoctrination to be "free will choices".
if you're indoctrinated with something from the time where you're a little child, you can hardly claim that such things are your "free choice". and don't tell me they aren't indoctrinated. they are as indoctrinated as children in christian society, with even more pressure to never step out of line and stay part of that religion.
And as an adult you also have free will to choose. You're not a robot, are you being mind-controlled? But then again who knows. I am sick and tired of people talking about all this stuff that they don't know about them when they make their own choices they want somebody to blame for the choices that you can make. It has nothing to do with religion. It has everything to do with the fact that the person have a choice. Children are taught right from wrong. If you think parenting, teaching, or having a particular belief and faith is considered indoctrination then it's best not to have children. Everybody have a choice even you. Just because I grew up with Christian, that didn't mean I didn't have a choice. A lot of you just act like you don't have a will of your own. As long as somebody is not abusing you, you cannot speak that for everybody.
@btbc92 you have never lived in a muslim country, if you're trying to tell me that "not being a muslim" is a choice there.
@btbc92 and i think if you wear a hijab, you show that you're very ignorant about those blatant issues... i guess if it's just one fashion item for you and you don't wear it every day, then that's different.
I have lots of Muslim friends. I know exactly what it is. I've always admired their outfits and I always admired what they were. I personally wouldn't mind it. But if I wore that I would wear it because I enjoy a roller how it looks fashionably. I'm not going to drive myself crazy over what anybody else thinks of. I think the one is very ignorant is yourself because you're the one that is obviously against something that you personally don't like because you think it's entirely religious. It's very clear that you're basically not so much anti-religion we your basically anti God. If I want to wear it everyday I can if I want to. You can't tell a woman what to wear just like me can't tell you what to wear.
I know very well according to the type of Muslim they are, it is part of the Allure. But it depends on what kind of Muslim and how far and Islam the person is. Not all Muslim sects follow the same rules. that goes to show you where your ignorance is at. And besides if I had no choice but to live in such a country, I know to follow the rules. It's live or die over there. A lot of people will not be able to handle it. That goes to show that not only do a lot of you have a lot of cultural ignorance, but also have no respect for other people's culture.
You really do not understand, that the ones that usually complain, I'll probably usually those who wants to be part of the world, or is it Muslim, and is basically non-religious, but they can't get out of it because they don't want to be killed. Then you got some cool have no qualms per say, but they want to be Christian, and follow the one true Living God, and not the fourth one that they're being told is the same God, when it isn't. You really don't understand anything. They're not going to explain it to you because you choose to be in ignorance. Be glad I told you because I can ask my Muslim friends right now if you want and if they're not busy. But I'm pretty sure they're not going to want to deal with you. And plus, some of my friends go to their country of origin, and let me tell you something, they are some that Prefer it, and there are those who don't. Respect them regardless of the choices or else you will not receive the same respect.
@btbc92 well they're all depending on the same litterature. the same faith. why would one be part of that?
and if they're not part of that, why wear a hijab for religious reason?
A woman's hair is supposed to be her covering. Men are not supposed to cover your hair, because it shows disrespect for yourself. That is also in the Bible. When you're supposed to be praying, you supposed to be wearing a prayer shawl. And you should pray in private. It's a spiritual matter when it comes to these things. Not just physically. And if a person desires to have a covering for those reasons, that's between that person, and God. That isn't for anybody else to judge.
It's not about depending on literature. It's about the way of living your life. It's up to them to make a decision because again we are all born with a purpose and we all born to do something. Even yourself. You have your own form of religion. A religion of self. If you think only of yourself you made a religion out of it. If you have a love of money, you made a religion out of it. If you are obsessed with vinegar to the point that you literally worship it, you made a religion out of it. Did they not make a religion out of Beyonce? Is one thing to enjoy her songs. It's another when you choose to worship her.
Some will wear hijab for religious reasons because again they are either religious and they declare that they are, or they do so simply because it's out of respect, or they do so because it's a requirement. You're still cold to do what is right. You're forced to pay taxes. You don't pay him you go to jail. You don't got to pay it if you don't want to. That's your own free will. But if you don't pay your taxes, you're going to get in trouble. Taxes is not biblical. It's Greek and it's Roman. It's stealing from the people. And yet we are staying at the country how we follow God. Yet the country follow the many gods.
At the same time you're not woman. It is for her protection especially in those countries. Even for somebody like myself. If I have to go to that country, I got to dress like the locals. Not dress like a tourist. You can get yourself killed. Better to be smart than to be done.
Plus it would make sense why they would have to cover up like that. Look up where they are located. They are usually in the middle of the desert. You have sun rays that is very dangerous to your skin and overall health. If you just walking out here like how we walk out here in the United States, you can end up sick, you can have a lot of skin problems, they may not have certain things like sunscreen and everything else over there. And if they do, it may not be high quality. Wearing certain clothing helps protect your skin, besides other things. I mean really it's common sense. It gets hot during the day, it turns winter cold during the night. Why do you think they may have to wear it? Do not Eskimos have to dress appropriately? But you know what makes it so sad? And if they do dress up to head to toe, a lot of men still want to lust and try to strip their clothes off. They get over here to the states, and you still want to undress them and you're supposed to be an American. I think it's very clear why they still might even if they wouldn't and I wouldn't blame them. If only men learn had a mind their own business a lot of women wouldn't have to fear needing to cover themselves up unless they desire to personally.
Even another safe countries that's a bit westernize like maybe Japan, or France, or anywhere else. As a woman you still need to be careful. Or else you're going to have a Liam Nielsen's Taken as your fate. Did the reason why you having so many young girls, teenagers, Etc. Getting taken out here. I just heard a few weeks ago about women and teenage girls getting kidnapped in New York alone. You better think wisely of the things you're saying out of your mouth. Because you're not a woman. You don't know what we got to go through every single time we step out of our front door.
@btbc92 "A woman's hair is supposed to be her covering. Men are not supposed to cover your hair, because it shows disrespect for yourself"... you're talking about this blatantly obvious standard as if it's not an issue. as if men are supposed to respekt themself and women aren't...
no the bible does at no point say that you should wear a prayer shawl. you made that up.
and how can you make the litteral scripture argument wirst and then just seemlessly in the next paragraph claim that it isn't about religion. like seriously. nothing of what you say makes any coherent sense.
"It is for her protection especially in those countries" protection from what? from violent rapists? don't you think it's time to strip off that bullshit and start putting violent rapists into jail instead of forcing women to hidie themself in public?
man the indoctrination you're a victim of is so oppressive to women. and you twist and turn in your own logic to somehow make sense of this bullshit that just doesn't make sense. that's why i don't think that any woman can wear a hijab without being oppressed.
because the "protection" argument is bullshit. just like the "respect" argument. it's purely oppression of women... but i guess it's ok for women to want that women are oppressed...
That's not your place. That's not indoctrination. Your reply is proof right there why when you can't trust somebody like you if that's how you think. Of course it don't make sense to you because that's the kind of mentality you have. You don't need indoctrination to see what kind of character you have. Because God makes the rules. And God is God. And he knows more think spiritually than we do. You think of it as a religion, and that's your choice. But you see you don't know God. You don't have a personal relationship with him. And if you don't want to that's your personal choice. I can say that because I know God, and I know the spiritual significance of it. But it's your choice to be in ignorance. And first of all, a head covering was usually a prayer shawl. And if you don't believe me go ask Jewish people. Says a lot right there. It makes me wonder if your even educated.
First of all oh, you don't know a spiritual forces out there that is playing with your mind because without a spiritual covering oh, yes you do get attached. It's not oppression of women. You think of it as a Prussian because again you host no kind of morals for yourself. It says that you want to look at women for your own personal pleasure. Not for the suppression Army you want to talk about. Stop assuming every woman is oppressed. You want to make excuses for your miserable life, that's on you. You don't have to make somebody else miserable. You're not a woman so it doesn't have to affect you. Men are supposed to cover your hair because it makes you look like a woman.
In God's design and his scripture, everything is meant to be respect for both parties. What what Islam chose to do, was take those pictures out of context, and they made it into a religion of their own, and they do it to oppress their own people besides telling lies, for their own control. Why you think a lot of people, who became Christian, was once Muslim? Head coverings like anything else you choose to do in this life is not what makes it bad. It's what you choose to do with it. Just like sex is not bad, it's natural. But if you choose to abuse it, then it's a sin. This is why MeToo now exist. If you truly believe the words that you say about putting violent rapist in jail, guess what? According to Jesus, if a man even looked at another woman he already committed adultery with her in his own heart. You committing adultery with your lustful eye should have land you in jail also. But then you be saying how you're not hurting somebody. Oh how the tables have turned.
It's not the garments that oppress Muslim women, it's Muslim men.
Ilhan Omar certainly isn’t. In fact, she gets to break laws that result in death from her own ideology.
Fuck you are just the epitome of a brainwashed kid... public education will do that to you
it’s ILLEGAL for women in iran to go outside without a hijab, and no amount of voting can change that
Their is no reason for the hate. You could’ve voiced your opinion nicely, I have Muslim friends and this is what I know from what they’ve told me
In many arab countries it's a law to wear hijab, and also even inside a Muslim family outside of that country. Basically it's to show modesty, so the men won't be turned on.
It is not a law to keep hijab in any Arab country actually. Only in the Persian country of Iran is there a national hijab law. And it’s modesty for Allah, not everything’s about men.
@Chrissydamusicgirl also in Saudi Arabia.
And for the cultural part: Traditionally, the four major Sunni schools of thought (Hanafi, Shafi'i, Maliki and Hanbali) hold by consensus that it is obligatory for the entire body of the woman (see awrah), except her hands and face (and feet according to Hanafis) to be covered during prayer and in the presence of people of the opposite sex other than close family members.
And in many countries it's widespreading, not by law, but by society
I lived in saudi arabia for years and i often didn't cover my hair and never got into trouble.
Well if they're in the middle east I think they are.
im literally an arab and retards in this comment section mentioning that its a law here, I have seen way more women without a hijab then with one. At least do your your research trolls lmfao
Lol I’ve had people on here, knowing I’m Pakistani telling me to “go back to the Middle East”😂😂😂Like ah yes, my favourite Middle Eastern country Pakistan zindabad!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂💀💀💀💀
@SpiderManFan2002 saaame im Pakistani too also born in 2002, and have had people say the same thing, funnily enough it's usually americans trying to insult me but instead insult themselves by proving their geography skills hahaha
@Anon Oh, are you mixed then?
And ah cool, yeah I had somebody tell me that if I didn’t wear the hijab in Pakistan I’d get killed- but it’s like have they even seen Pakistani girls?😂😂😂😂
@SpiderManFan2002 yep, yeah totally dumb people tbh my sister never wore a hijab in her life and also wears revealing clothes all the time yet no one even assaulted her much less killed her haha
Beautiful women.
Maybe my friend @SpiderManFan2002 can enlighten us about the hijab?
Yup sure I’ll go that later lol
I answered in case you wanna read it now😅
I have no idea. Its their religion and dress as such. This guy doesn't care really. Do have a funny story about it though
Are you allowed not to wear Muslim country, is your work in court not half of a man's, no reason really
Many reasons, mainly the "women are wonderful" effect.
Reality is that they are, but then reality is that they are the main enforcers.
I know many Muslims and it is a rule for them to wear them but I also know Muslims who are not that way.
But the ones not that way go to different places of worship or don't go at all.
Because in many places it is forced on them, either by family or society.
because feminism teaches that young girls should tear down the patriarchy but muslims girls are scared little rabbits and they do what their men tell them
I don’t think that is oppressive. Granted, I’m a Catholic, so I’m used to women with head coverings.
i’m going to answer your question with a question “ what is the punishment for a female who takes off headrest?“
I don’t know but the Muslim friends I have do it by choice
They say they have a choice but in actual reality if they were to take it off they’d be beaten and if they were in the Muslim countries they’d be killed
Most people fear the unknown and lack of knowledge about a certain issue makes them come to mainly wrong calculations and therefore wrong conclusions.
They can do in their shit holes what ever they want. I don't want to see them and their shitty religious clothes in my society.
They wear it by their own choice , nothing wrong in it
Simple. It goes against the religious dogma Kool-Aid they drank from.
Seems to me, as long as you wear tons of make up.. of course your'll look pretty in anything
First off, this wasn’t about weather the women where pretty. These where just examples of Muslim women i found online that match the topic as the topic I’m talking about is regarding Muslim women. I could care less about your personal hatred for makeup?
Not all women wear it by choice, many are forced to wear it or face beatings. If you live in the west then you only really see the former.
Probably because they are wearing it, no one would wear that willingly in 100 degree temperatures
Ignorance, and then they not willing to learn
in some muslim countries it is mandatory, and tha t is oppressive.
If white guys made white girls walk behind them, all hell would break loose
I am Muslim and I agree with you.
There may be cultures who insist muslim women on wearing hijabs yet I have not witnessed it in person in my whole life. I have known and seen muslim women wearing hijab. None I know of were forced to wear hijab.
Thanks for likes!
Because the stereotypical videos of that
Lol because they are. That's the reason.
You are the ignorant one for saying that ;)
@Monfrere No I'm not. Ignorant would be if I didn't know why it was oppressive.
Ignorant and arrogant too, nice
@Monfrere Stating what is an unpopular truth to some is not arrogance. Some might even say it is compassion. After all, the truth will set you free.
Whether you or any Muslims who wish to, disagree, it is just an obvious fact that the hijab is oppressive and is a symbol of oppression. Whether you like it or not, the hijab is a symbol of female oppression and an obvious indication of a male dominated culture which still exists in Islamic theocracies today. No amount of special pleading can explain that away. That's why in Islamic countries, even though the Quran doesn't even mention anything at all about women having to wear a hijab, men can go about their lives and wear anything they like (other than cross dressing which isn't exactly a positive point about Islam either) but women are forced by their male dominated society to dress how they are told to dress. For a woman, wearing a hijab is basically the same as wearing a neon sign saying "I do whatever my religion allows my husband/father/brother/son or any authoritative male to tell me to do". Those Muslim women who live in places where they are free to wear what they like but choose to wear the hijab are usually doing so to kowtow to their cultural expectations and if not for that reason, it is due to their own superstitious guilt which they have been indoctrinated into feeling by their fatuous religious culture. That is oppression. You won't like what you just read but it is the truth.
Nothing wrong in wearing Hijab
She looks like a beautiful woman
She is looking nice with hijab...
Because they are.
Girl what you know about oppression you’ve got like the whitest name on the planet😭😭
@Chrissydamusicgirl I didn't say I was oppressed, did I? No. I may not be "coloured" (whatever the hell that means these days anyway), but I do have this ability to empathise with others, to appreciate their particular individual perspectives, to place myself in their shoes so to speak. It's something that all, or at least most, humans have.
They have this traditional dress from old time
It’s not really the point.
I don't
They all are
Why not?