It’s color blind person
Not
Blind person
Only 3 guys understood my concept 😕
The point that is being made here, a point that so many below are apparently not getting, is that trying to explain the reality of God's existence to an atheist is like trying to explain the concept of colour to someone who has only ever seen shades of black, white and grey. That is, you cannot, because atheists don't have the mental capacity to understand abstract concepts, because they're all autistic.
K you're making me really wanna be full on atheist rwith your comment. For one my little brother actually has autism. He believes in God just as much as my mom. For two. You're 53 and instead of judging head on I'm gonna ask how many people you've actually talked to who are atheists and seemed to have their stuff together? Making decent points.
@DangpMango I should clarify. I wasn't making fun of people who have autism; I was simply pointing to a well-known correlation that exists between atheism and autism - ex. www.psychologytoday.com/.../does-autism-lead-atheism
It's a fact that people with the condition struggle with abstract notions like God. Your brother is exceptional in that regard, because although it isn't impossible for someone with autism to believe in God, it is extremely unlikely.
"Because they're all autisitc."
Proof religious people are stupid. :)
@Silas_153 So if you can't understand the reality of the Easter Bunny's existence, that means you don't have the mental capacity to understand abstract concepts?
@NightHawk99 Your comment doesn't make sense.
Neither does using autism as an insult. ;)
@OnTheLevel No, but your comment reinforces my own belief that atheists don't understand basic logic.
@NightHawk99 I wasn't using autism as an insult. Can't you read?
@Silas_153 I'm not an atheist, but it shouldn't take a rocket scientist to understand why people don't believe in something that can't be proven. The fact that people believe so fervently in something they've never seen and can't prove exists is a little extreme, wouldn't you agree?
Denialllll
@OnTheLevel No, I don't agree, because everyone has beliefs they can't prove. Everyone has faith in something.
@NightHawk99 That's it? "Denial"? Got anything else?
Even atheists?
@NightHawk99 I was telling the truth when I said that I wasn't using autism to insult others here, because it's now a well known fact that if you have autism you're more likely to be an atheist. I see nothing controversial about this claim whatsoever.
@Silas_153 Not everyone is willing to kill or die for those beliefs.
Yep. Denial. Linking autism to atheism is stupid, because autistics can easily be religious as well as atheists.
@OnTheLevel Thank you.
@OnTheLevel Neither am I. What the hell is your point?
@Silas_153 His point is your analogy is stupid.
@NightHawk99 Yes, they CAN be religious too, but they're far less likely to be! Can't you read? Did you even bother to click on the link provided? There is a connection between having autism and being an atheist.
@Silas_153 No there isn't lol.
@NightHawk99 It's not an analogy, it's a correlation. Don't you even know the difference?
@Silas_153 It was so dumb I couldn't tell what it was.
@NightHawk99 Bloody hell, it's like I'm conversing with retarded children here. "It's dumb", you say. Really? WHY?
Saying there's a connection between atheism and autism is like saying there's a connection between fairy tales and reality. That's only possible in books lmfao
@NightHawk99 "No there isn't lol."
YES, there IS!
www.autismkey.com/.../
www.dailymail.co.uk/.../...dy-points-link-two.html
www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/.../...ism_n_3183843.html
uncommondescent.com/.../
Is that enough for you? The link is THERE!
And you believe that crap?
@OnTheLevel Yes, even atheists believe things they can't prove. Can you prove reality is anything more than just a bizarre illusion, that the person you're having this conversation with is actually real? Can you prove the reality of the past? Can you prove the objective reality of minds other than your own? If you can, then do so, right here and now.
You're insane bud. Get some help lol
@NightHawk99 An ad hominem attack. That's all you're left with because you're at a loss to respond to the points I've made. You're wrong and know that, but are too puffed up with pride to admit it.
What points did you make other than a bunch of weird conspiracy theories? Lol
@NightHawk99 Why do you call it "crap"? Because it doesn't conform to what you already believe to be true? YES, I believe it. Why shouldn't I? Give me one good reason not to. Can you even manage that?
I got a reason: it's poisoning your mind. You can still do things by your own free will can't you? Or do you believe we're a computer program like a bunch of other weirdos? Lol
Also... Calm down. You're getting mad over getting called out for saying something dumb. I get it, nobody likes feeling stupid.
@NightHawk99 Conspiracy theories? Now what the hell are you raving on about? There is a direct correlation between being an atheist and having autism. That's a fact. The reason? It's because people who have autism lack what is termed a "theory of mind". That is, they cannot understand what it must be like to see things from a perspective other than their own, they cannot place themselves in the position of someone who isn't them.
@NightHawk99 Read the damn article, the one from 'Psychology Today'. It explains why. Don't be lazy.
That doesn't mean there's a connection between autism and atheism. Autistic folks struggle to understand anything. It isn't only religion bud.
I think I'd rather be lazy. I like the person it's turning you into. ;)
@NightHawk99 Well, then I see no point in continuing this conversation. It's clear to me you don't care about the truth, only your own silly opinions. You're not even willing to consider the evidence, and yet people like you have the damned nerve to say that theists ignore evidence!
We all abide by truths we prefer to abide by. I see yours is conspiracy theories.
You mean Atheists don't believe in imaginary friends.
Well this was interesting.
I should refer you to what I said... The problem with your answer is that the Atheist absolutely understands the concept of God, they just aren't brainwashed, indoctrinated, or retarded, and find that there are no good reasons to believe in a God or Gods. Theists themselves admit that they cannot comprehend God, no one can, only God can, right? So right there they have already contradicted themselves, since even a theist wouldn't be able to explain the concept of God had God been real (which he isn't). But the analogy is correct. Explaining the colour blue is like explaining God in that they are both things that only exist within the confines of ones brain. It is entirely created by your own mind. The difference is the external world has explanations for why our brain perceives blue, but God has no such correlation, it's just a story we made up and some idiots chose to worship. But if you think Atheists don't "understand the concept of God" you are very very wrong. Either there is no God and we all understand the concept of God, the same way I understand the concept of harry potter, or God is real and no one understands the concept of God in which case you are just a fucking moron trying to explain what he cannot explain
@Archerer stop pretending and be an ass with someone else, your belief, like any other has it's validations and invalidation. Whole reason there's divide in the first place. Depends what you read, where you look. You're not a god therefore you do not know shit diddley about truth. It's all theory. All ideas. All we have as solid proof is assumptions and the odds that are. And odds are many signs from End times keeps happening, many reasons to believe anything at this point. Announcements from NASA informing and confirming aliens are real. It could all be distractions from the reality at hand. We will not know.
People have been claiming end times for centuries and aliens disprove God so... nice one. And yes we all have validations and invalidations, what you are neglecting is that some are better than others. Any valid argument for god is so far removed from religion already, and even what’s left is slowly being eaten up.
@Archerer Aliens don't disprove God it involves the other theories relating to what the Bible states in the End Times. It's possible God is more like what we consider aliens or aliens are the fallen angels and demons. It all sounds off but it all has some ground in Biblical as well as historical findings. Anyone talking theories is going to sound insane but it's at least an entertaining goose chase to go on rather than put down other's. I'm not trying to prove really anything other than keep up to date on all the discoveries constantly happening. It's all very interesting. Everyone seems to have a set idea of The Bible and only consider it by a certain thought or understanding like it doesn't have hundreds of layers to it. Much like how people make assumptions about Atheists no?
@NightHawk99 "Conspiracy theories" - It isn't a conspiracy theory if there is actually evidence for it, but you don't want to even look at that evidence, because you would rather bury your stupid head in the sand and ignore it. Atheists are far more likely to be autistic. That is a fact.
Instead of trying to rationalize the concept of God to an atheist, try to define the concept of God scientifically. 'Sentient infinity'. Then, establish parameters.
1). A sentient infinity must be limitless in every aspect of reality. No boundaries, or limitations whatsoever.
2). Otherwise the sentient infinity cannot be a deity.
3). The deity must be classified as a paradox. Since it has existed for eternity, without causal origin.
4). Now, since it has been established that the concept of God is a paradox, neither science nor religion is capable of proving or disproving the existence of god. It is the metaphysical line drawn in the sand that can never be crossed.
Also, Aliens absolutely disprove God... Aliens will have been around for billions of years, and gone through evolution, and probably even have their own religions, many whose are much much older than ours, and contradict the Bible entirely, thus disproving God, I appreciate the mental gymnastics you can do to try and avoid the reality, like saying Satan did it lmao, but we all know... Oh Silas, you have a very sad imagination.
Atheism is just an other religion.
Atheism is another religion? It's literally in it's name that it's not...
A = Not or without
Theism= belief
Not/without belief 🤦🏻♀️
Tldr: if you deny spirituality you're still religious, you have to question it in order not to be religious. And people who identify themselves as atheist usually just deny, not question. Therefore it is a religion of theirs.
The origin of the word teism is theos, God in greek, but you can still be religious without a God, so skip the terminology and go for the desert.
It really depends on the motivation why they're atheist. If they believe that we cannot really know for sure because of the lack of evidence than yes, it means the lack of belief. However most people simply believe that the world is only material. Ergo they believe in something alternative, they do believe. We can't even materialise time, and it's only the fourth dimension. We kinda get how neurotransmitters affect the brain, but don't really get what is self-consciousness as we lose it yet our body remains the same material.
you're confusing agnostic with atheism. Atheism as @Smashingdoozy rightly said is, by definition, someone who does not believe.
No... Atheism is not believing in a god at all. I think you're getting confused with agnosticism... Which is neither believing nor disbelieving.
@NYlatefun whoops my bad didn't realize you basically said what I said
@Smashingdoozy LOL great minds...
In terms of outcome there's no difference between not believing in God because you believe that the world is material or not believing in God because you don't believe in thing's without a proof? You don't believe in God at all in both cases. In my analogy agnosticism is a motivation, behind not engaging with religion. So all agnosticist are atheists, but not all atheists are agnosticist. And agnostic atheist are the non religious ones. @pjf1958 actually gets the point.
You're literally just ignoring the descriptions of both and making your own shit up 😂
"An agnostic is someone who believes that nothing can be known about the existence of God." Believing is when you just trust information without proof, and agnosticism main concern is that they don't have the proof to know if God exists or not. It's like "we'll see, when we'll see." it ain't really the definition of believing.
No... Having faith is believing in something without proof.
You can trust something is true based on facts which would also make you believe in it. Believing by definition isn't only blind "believing is seeing". Faith however is blind.
Agnostic just don't care they're not terrified of death like religious people are so it's more of a "it is what it is" situation. They don't believe but they don't not believe.
If atheism is a religion not collecting stamps is a hobby. Next!
Bruh atheism is not a religion 💀@J2ohhhhh
@tatianamay ikr?
You cannot not believe by default. It's not like stamp collection. That's everyone's default that they don't collect stamps. Your basic mindset is that you believe what your surrounding tells you, it can be your parents, your teachers, your peers, the media or anything. And that's a religion. It's like rock and roll as a music genre or rock and roll as a life style. Most atheist don't want the genre but the lifestyle. I mean if the music is the thinking behind atheism, the lifestyle is shitting on religious people for having a less realistic mindset. While most atheist themselves don't have that mindset but they just wanna shit on others for compensating their own intellectual mediocrity. Materialism is just their default believe and they've never questioned it. Don't think I'm religious, but I don't need to shit on a group of people who are considered to be less intelligent to apear more intelligent, I have better way to compensate for my insecurities.
Lol bo. Just stop talking
Omg 😂
I dont want the “lifestyle” or have an excuse the shit on religious people.
First of all there is no atheist “lifestyle” its a nonstance. I dont think about religion day to day nor do i congregate into some building to dedicate myself into “not believing” thats absurd. All it is is saying i lack a beleif in a god. Thats it. So like NOT collecting stamps isn't considered a hobby neither is atheism considered a religion. So for fuck sake stfu before you embarrass yourself again.
And for the record some of my closest family members are christian and i get along with them superbly.
I exactly described the type of people you consider yourself to be. "Ones who are not bothered by religion." And having that written down I don't understand why you're so attached to tell me what atheist are. If you're that type of atheist, please consider yourself to belong to the few who made a decision based on critical thinking and feel a little bit better about yourself. But also understand that just because you say you are atheist you are not like everyone else who says that they are atheists. People have different motivations and different mindset. It's like feminism would be about equality yet there are women who support inequality against men. Or just because someone calls themselves antifa it can be radicalised and actually be fascist. Same with religion and atheism.
because you keep maligning atheism like it hurt you personally or something. lol its pretty embarrassing dude. so just stop already.
I wrote wall of texts explaining my point of view, and noone could reflect on one single argument I wrote down, other than it's bollocks or with factually wrong references to dictionary definitions. I reflected on your stamp collection parallel. You didn't say anything about my arguements. The only embarrassing thing here is your debate culture or the lack of it. Ps.: Yet I'd still be open for any argument you have, if embarrassment is a problem, you're more than welcome to fuck off.
yeah and none of your points makes sense at all. Atheism is NOT a religion and never will be. so just stop already
there's no dissonance. there's really no thoughts at all about it. i just lack a belief in god. that is it. all this other bullshit you keep spewing doesn't matter AT ALL. so again stfu already
because i just don't. i see no evidence or reason to believe. thats it.
they have thre reasons. not gonna get into it with you
lol i know what you're doing bro. just stop
right of course you are... "just curious" lols
Wtf y’all are still arguing?
@tatianamay yeah this guy just has a real bone to pick it seems. Atheists must have hurt his family or something. not sure why else he cares so much
not really you keep asking questions. the matter was settled when i said "atheisim is not a religion."
keep talking though maybe that point will get into your brain
Types of atheists:
Those who grew up without religion
Those who grew up with religion but read too much of the bible (myself)/decided it wasn't for them.
Those who didn't grow up with religion and also studied the bible because it was interesting.
🤷🏻♀️ In order for something to be a religion it needs a belief system Atheists don't have this, it needs a god or gods or something to believe in atheists don't have this (not all atheists believe in science), also would probably need a place of worship, which we do not have.
@Smashingdoozy "Those who grew up with religion but read too much of the bible (myself)/decided it wasn't for them. "
same here i was a staunch catholic until i really read that book cover to cover. its like they always say nothing will make you an atheist faster like reading the bible will lol
@Still-alive I missed this one good read.
I was kinda busy with blue Anon rapey.
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@ChrisMaster69 lol its cool. this guy just wanted to bash atheists
@Still-alive oh another one that prays to Asmodeous, which is fair Solomon got on okay with him
@ChrisMaster69 lol sounds like a qanon thing. i wouldn't doubt if he was one
@Smashingdoozy Taoism and Buddhism actually don't have God (s)
" Taoism and Buddhism actually don't have God (s) "
thats all you got from her post huh? wow you're a fucking joke dude lol
no you bro. stop badmouthing things you haven't the slightest fucking clue about. and you just refuse to read anything we tell you. just in one ear out the other.
@Still-alive while I have only had half an eye on the thread as sorting out travel to US (Atlanta & California) and had circa 1/2 bottle rum i am inclined to agree with both you are @Smashingdoozy it’s like trying to discuss things with a spoilt child.
Bit like the usual Flat Earthers
Hence why I said a god (s) OR something to believe in.
Not surprising that you can't read i guess.
"Like accepting (on purpose I don't use the word believe, it's triggering af) evolution and big bang theory? "
look buddy we know you're trying to bait here so just stop already. we see through you
Nope its bait. We aren't taking it
y'all still arguing? its been 4 DAYS
AT LEAST SOMEONE STOP REPLYING PLEASE
@tatianamay nope 😂
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@tatianamay hehe
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Most of the people on hear need to read the question. It is a color blind guy not a blind guy.
But, also I don't understand the question. One has nothing to do with the other unless you are talking about God creating a person that isn't color blind to help describe the color blue to a color blind person. But, still missing how this whole thing is relevant.
I think if there is a God, he gets more credit than he deserves. If there was a God, why did he allow my brother's adoptive father to rape him most of his childhood? Why did he allow all these people to die from a virus? Why does he let bad things happen to his herd of sheep? Why would he allow all the innocent children to be force into sex slavery for older men? Honestly, when does God step in to help?
Honestly, I get tired of hearing the praising of God when something good happens but when something bad happens it is God's will. God did not wake me up this morning, my alarm clock did. God did not get me my job, that was my friends and my skills. God doesn't light up my house, that happens when I flip on the switch. Supplied by the power company that is not named Thy Holy Devine Power.
When are people going to have more faith in themselves and stop believing in a person or being that never has been proven to exist? The bible was written by man, seriously check the credentials printed on the book. Does it say God Little Print Shop in Heaven?
Where was God when my mother died giving birth to my brother? Where was God when my father died alone while he was walking to get exercise? There are countless people that need some type of help and cannot get it because people are unknowing. But, God knows all and has a plan for everyone. So when a woman gets raped and possibly murdered, was that in God's plan? Was that God's will? A lady that was like a second mother to me was stricken down with cancer. I watched her suffer day in and day out with immense pain and she was a faithful sheep towards God. She kept telling us that she was ready to go to heaven. Is that what God wants to torture is to see if we still want into Seasame Street? If that is his plan then count me out.
God created hell for all non-saved people. People that could be considered a saint for not doing any wrong their entire life but because they choose not to be a believer they are damned to burn for all eternity. But, yet when a convicted murderer is about to be put to death he gets a hail Mary before he is cast from this existence to get into heaven. So why love sin free your whole life if you can get saved at the end? Why not just wait until the end?
What's more is that these people who believe in that trash discount all of that completely and just say "don't worry, it's not our job to understand God, just to love him" Like what the fuck... How utterly naive, selfish, ignorant, and apathetic that is. Don't worry sensei Sub Zero, I am on your side.
Lol, thanks. I appreciate the support.
The problem is that a blind person doesn't just take it on faith that other people can see - Sighted people can prove to the blind person that they can see by performing tasks that would be impossible for the blind person to replicate.
Now, the blind person will never have a real concept of colour, but they can at least be secure in the knowledge that it actually exists based on the demonstrated phenomenon of sighted people around them.
Now, the theist talking to the atheist, has no such ability to demonstrate their claim. The atheist asks for evidence that this god exists and the theist repeatedly turns up empty handed. If a god actually existed, it would be readily apparent and easily observable, yet evidence is always suspiciously lacking.
I could go on to point out that the atheist also isn't lacking any sort of sense. With a blind person we can test to find out if they are lacking the sense of sight, or look at physical differences in the eye. There are no such examples where atheists are analogously lacking a sense.
I see what the Asker is trying to do, but the analogy falls flat on its face with even a little scrutiny.
The reason many people have interpretted the question as talking about blindness, rather than colour blindness, is likely due to the mangled English used in the title.
"Can you explain a color blind guy what is blue?" is not something a native English-speaker would write.
"Can you describe the colour blue to a colourblind person?" would have made more sense.
Not that any of it matters - the analogy still doesn't work regardless. Substituting blindness for colour-blindness in my post would not make anything I said untrue.
A color blind can’t imagine a color, he can only read in words because he doesn’t have capability to see and imagine color (yet). It shouldn’t mean that he should say that there is not such thing as color.
Same goes for god, if we don’t have capability to see or imagine god (yet) it doesn’t mean we should finalize it that there is no such thing as god.
After all we are very small organisms in universe.
A universe of which we know very less about.
No, the analogy doesn't work at all.
"Same goes for god, if we don’t have capability to see or imagine god (yet) it doesn’t mean we should finalize it that there is no such thing as god."
Try and understand this - What if there isn't a god? At what point do we become justified in asserting there isn't one? You've set up the goal posts in such a way that assuming there is no god, we'd /never/ be able to say there isn't one.
"A universe of which we know very less about."
This is the God Of The Gaps fallacy.
Ok
What if there isn’t god, what do we lose , Nothing.
What if there is god, what do we lose, everything
That's just Pascals Wager.
Of all the arguments theists present, Pascals Wager is the most flawed and easiest to explain why it doesn't work.
There are 4 main counterpoints I like to raise against it;
A) You could justify any position with this argument.
Why not carry a wooden stake around with you at all times - if vampires exist you can defend yourself, if not, no big deal, right? It fits in the 4 boxes exactly the same. Yet theists would suddenly no longer find their own argument compelling. All we did was substitute one fantasy for another.
B) There's no cost to believing.
In the graph, we have 'Nothing happens' in the two right side boxes. But it's not as easy as that. If I were to accept a god claim, there are undoubtably things about my life that would supposedly change.
Theists often like to pretend like their holy books aren't filled with freedom restricting rules. Which simply isn't true. Belief in a god most certainly comes with drawbacks.
C) It phrases the gamble as a 50/50 coin toss.
It's more like a heaven lottery. Because it's not just a case of accepting a god and getting into that heaven - I need to hope I've picked not only the correct religion and god, but also the correct denomination and am following the gods rules for its afterlife correctly. It's more like a heaven lottery than a coin toss.
D) Based on the respective gods rules, would accepting its existence based only on Pascals Wager get me to heaven?
Would your god be satisfied with this sort of believe? This argument does nothing to actually convince the atheist that the god is real, they'd only be believing out of some sort of safe-bet rather than being genuinely convinced. Which, based on the character of most gods I'm aware of, would be sufficient to appease that god.
That graph totally answers your question
You mean the graph that I just debunked? No. No it doesn't.
It's very simple...
Every color and shade of light in light spectrum has a different wavelength which decides the color we see..
The color that we see, is pointless, it's just a way that we perceive the world, it's our closed perception and visible radiation is a very small part of the whole range of possible radiations... Like infrared, ultraviolet, alpha-beta-gamma rays.
Color blind or not, we shouldn't identify radiation with different wavelength using specific color..
Give a color blind Guy a SPECTROMETER and he will be able to identify the radiation that fall under the color range that you consider BLUE!..
Only an uneducated person who believes in colors of light! Will believe in idea of GOD!
Any properly educated person Who understands that colors are just different wavelength light will not accept the idea of God...
In fact The device! The smartphone you are using was built by a scientist..
Person who built that screen emitting colors that you see! understood concept of light and different wavelengths... That's how he successfully made a screen that emits all the possible colors..
Only in the same way that I can explain sound to a deaf person. Abstractly. It would contain none of the essence, qualia or nuance of the actual sense.. Can you describe what your elbow sees? Of course not, the elbow doesn't see.
I could say that we have a sense, that detects energetic waves in electromagnetic radiation, similar to how we have a sense that detects motion waves in a medium next to our heads. One is called sight. The other is sound.
Sound can be perceived from low to high, but there are many vibrations outside of our ability to hear them. They can be measured and created and re-created though.
Colours are the arbitrary distinctions we make in the frequency of the electromagnetic waves.
We call Blue, any electromagnetic waves with a length between 492nanometers and 455 nanometers, similar to how we call middle C on piano, any wave with a frequency of 261 Hertz and a length of 4 feet 3 inches.
Neither of these explanations can give you a sense of the sky or the wonders of Bach.
I'm agnostic so I am not sure if this would count, but obviously I can't say water or the sky, but I can base it on emotions and touch. Although colorblindess has several different variations of it, I'd probably go with the same thing as a full blind person.
For something like sky blue I would say it is an uplifting feeling where gravity seems to lose a bit of its grip on you. A calm peaceful rest in the softest mattress and sheets imaginable. Like tasting a marshmallow. Light fluffy and sweet.
For a darker blue, let's say navy blue i would say basically it is heavy like almost oppressive in a way. Like a weighted blanket of sadness that you can't quite shake off. Its like the feel of the dusk giving into night. The shift in weather from warm to cool.
It’s not specially about blue, it could be any color
The point really is, when limited, you find ways to adapt and overcome. This is why I said in my response it doesn't matter if they are colorblind or just blind I would do it the same way using emotions.
Now if you are trying to go with something more meta then you are going to need to explain yourself clearer because it is obvious most people have no clue what you are asking for or the correlation between the two things you asked for.
Sure, here goes:
"Blue is a "color", but really it's what we call the light of a specific range of wavelengths as interpreted by human eyes.
You have trouble differentiating this light because the cells that normally serve this function in the eyes of other people are missing inside your eyes.
Also, the color blue has literally no correlation with god or religion, because even though you can't observe it with your own eyes, you can collect plenty of evidence for its existence by empirical means, contrary to the belief in divine deities which is based entirely in subjective delusion and will forever remain stuck exclusively within the heads of people who adhere to it.
Huh? Why did I say the last part? Just thought it would help you understand the color blue.
Oh.. it didn't? It was just gibberish? Nvm then!"
Yes, of course... blind people are very capable of understanding and and experiencing feelings, and all other sensations, just don't focus on their limitation with the light spectrum... appeal to their other senses, there's smell, and touch, there's taste, at the very least you can relate the color blue to something cool, that's where you start and you take it from there.
My answer has nothing to do with god though... I've just worked with some children that have different levels of visual impairment.
Color blind people
same answer applies
Well you don't explain these really you show things you associate with the colors.
Take them to the beach, dip their feet in the water. Blue looks as the water feels, the water reflects the sky.
Crumble a crunchy leaf in your hand, that's the color orange, explain the fruit is also that color so the taste of orange is also associated with the color.
Green is the feeling of your feet running on freshly mown grass and the smell of peppermint.
Red is the heat from the fireplace and the spice left on your tongue after eating a spicy meal.
I'd also like to add that most colorblind people actually do see color they just either struggle to see red-green or blue-yellow. So they know what these colors look like they just see them on different colors to us. Monochromacy (seeing in black and white) only affects 0.003% of the population.
This post seems rather pointless and not very well thought out 🤷🏻♀️
Blue feels like a cool breeze, on an autumn day. Blue can also be how you feel right after a break up with someone you loved. Blue is like 40 to 50 degrees Fahrenheit. Blue is like dipping your toe into some chilly water. Blue feels like the opposite of hot, but not so much that you're frozen. Blue is breezy, chilly, cold, and sometimes depressing, but can also be beautiful, like the oceans of the planet or the clear sky in the morning. That's what "blue" is.
If God exists, he's doing an EXTRA sh*tty job right now... And well, for like 95% of human history. (Also, would God have a wang? Does God get erections? Kinda funny thinking of God as an old white guy. What does God's balls look like? (No Homo.)) If God doesn't exist, then that means billions of humans on the planet Earth look like complete idiots talking to an imaginary creature and starting wars over it. That's why I'm Agnostic. Cause with both scenarios, it's lose-lose.
No and I wouldn't even try to. He probably wouldn't care because colors do not exist in his life the same way they do for others. It will have no meaning to him or his life. It will change nothing because he could never know for sure if what he came up with is correct or not.
A color blind can’t imagine a color, he can only read in words because he doesn’t have capability to see and imagine color (yet). It shouldn’t mean that he should say that there is not such thing as color.
Same goes for god, if we don’t have capability to see or imagine god (yet) it doesn’t mean we should finalize it that there is no such thing as god.
After all we are very small organisms in universe.
A universe of which we know very less about.
Yes, I would explain to this guy what blue means scientifically in terms of light and being part of the spectrum and a certain vibration. He doesn't need to be even able to see at all (he could be completely blind) in order to understand logic and science.
The concept of light, much like the concept of 'god", is easy to explain using logic and scientific language.
That would depend on his understanding of colour. It's reasonable to assume an adult blind man understands that regular people see different colours and that different cultures assign different meanings to each. You could start by explaining wavelengths and how blue has a short one, or how people associate it with cold and its opposite red with hot
Ya can't really. But factually color's do exist and the color blind knows this. For many reasons. Unlike god who has no reasons and has evidence ageist him my personal favourite been hawkings research on black holes been fundemental proof god don't exist.
One don't have to visaulise something to find evidence that it is there. Meanwhile if there is no evidence to something and no visualition and evidenece actaully agiest it.
Safe bet it don't exist.
Why do you waste your time on such things? You know you're not going to convince anyone who doesn't already see. Mainstream religion has done such a horrible job of interpreting what Christ said that it has run off anyone who possesses critical thought and misled those who follow their teachings. I've seen just as much "color-blindness" among Christians as atheists and agnostics, maybe more.
A question I like to ask is: if two people walk into a church seeking God, and that church teaches falsehoods and misconceptions, which of those two people are being led astray? The one who realizes something is wrong and walks out, becoming an atheist? Or the one who accepts the falsehoods and stays with the church?
I believe God exist, but this approach will get you nowhere. Blue light is the color expressed from the range of 380 nm to 500 nm. It can be dark like black or light like grey. It is like purple but less red. People with blue colorblindness have difficulty distinguishing green and blue. They can still see blue. If you meant complete colorblindness (very rare) then this task would be more challenging, but still do able. Christianity isn't based on your intelligence as those more intelligent and less so have believed, it is a matter of your hearts relationship with God through Jesus Christ.
I dont know why being an atheist or agnostic would make any difference to describing a color, or anything for that matter, to a blind person.
Blue is as cool as a spring breeze & refreshing as a glass of water on a warm day. It is associated with boys during baby showers & attributed to sadness. It comes in many shades, from the coldest of winters to the heat of summer months.
I don't see what this question have to do with God's existence or inexistence. I fail to see the analogy here
I would describe color blue to a blind person by using their sense of hearing like letting them listen to the sound of a sea and its waves
The same answer applies. People who are totally colour blind, can only see things as black and white or in shades of grey.
Well, there are different kinds of color blindness, but considering the fact that the person can't see the color blue, this is what I'd do:
Look at the water. The first color that may come to your mind is blue.
Or just wear specially-made glasses
Yes, you find something that sounds plausible, then just lie to him.
literally just make it up.
it’s not like he can say you are wrong about the colour.
@Ez-Bri-Z hehe
Not the subjective experience of blue, but I can tell them where on the light spectrum blue is, and which items are blue to normal seeing people... Or I could just tell them to pray for blue and surely, they will wake up the next day and see blue, cause you know, God..
The irony of this all is that colour isn't real, it's something we evolved to understand and interact with the physical world in a meaningful way. Some people are colour blind because the cones that read light in their eyes have been damaged through some genetic mutation, and thus cannot process certain wavelengths of light, distorting the colour spectrum. Just like colour, God is also something that only exists in your head, also to interact with the physical world in a meaningful way. The difference is, colour is a real experience whereas God is indoctrinated and brainwashed into you. But both are to make meaning out of something that is meaningless. Colour came from millions of years of evolution, God came from probably eating mushrooms and getting real fucked up on hallucinogens
It’s not bad concept , it’s very confusing concept 🤣
A color blind can’t imagine a color, he can only read in words because he doesn’t have capability to see and imagine color (yet). It shouldn’t mean that he should say that there is not such thing as color.
Same goes for god, if we don’t have capability to see or imagine god (yet) it doesn’t mean we should finalize it that there is no such thing as god.
After all we are very small organisms in universe.
A universe of which we know very less about.
I think it's not possible:
Such guys are colour blind on their own decision.
They are just not longer interested in colours; and thus won't listen.
That's fine with me - as long as they don't molest me -unasked for- with attempts to pursuade me to also refuse colours.
No, but you can explain it to a computer. It's too detailed to explain to a human, because blue comes with emotional connotations. But if a guy was an android then yep for sure you can upload what blue means. Also it's a bit arrogant to refer to the Christian God as the only god, there are so many gods that people believe in!
i don't quite understand how that has anything to do with god... but i'd explain to them that just like they see only black and white, we see more than those colors than them.
it's simpler to explain the concept of color to a color blind person, than to a completely blind person.
Or we’re just more intellectually curious, analytical and rational (also, in general atheists are more educated as we tend to have higher academic degrees in average). All that makes us see through the man made BS that religions are, for the most part, with very limited exceptions. And by the way, I’m an atheist but that doesn’t mean I’m not spiritual.
I appreciate your metaphysical bent here, lol. They'll probably explain the frequency band and shape of the wave forms, but outside of that, there is no way to experience a color other than to see it. Then again it begs the question, when we agree something is blue, are we actually seeing the same thing? Deeeeeeep...
Yes, I can. I can also explain his color blindness. I don't know if God exists. Neither do you or anyone. But I'm not wasting my time in ridiculous rituals and beliefs. We do know one thing -- prayer is no better than doing nothing at all.
Yes i can if unlike you he paid attention to basic grade 10 science its a particular wavelength of electromagnetic wave and you know even the two of us would Percive the same blue differently but won't be able to explain the difference to each other.
Can you explain you question better.
Anyways
I think everyone has the right the believe in whatever they want, it shouldn't bother you.
People don’t have to believe in things that you do me personally I believe in god but I don’t believe in selling your soul to a religion and I don’t care what your religious or non religious believes are as long as you keep them to yourself and don’t try to convert me or something
What do fairy tales have to do with a medical condition or optics? In any case men who are color blind can usually see some color. I would first find out what they can see then use that as a reference point.
Are you implying that God needs to be felt and not explained? That atheists try to explain God when they need some kind of insight/"inner understanding" to believe in his existence?
I actually do believe in a higher power, but your example doesn’t prove the existence of God
thanks for inviting me though
No
It doesn’t prove existence
A color blind can’t imagine a color, he can only read in words because he doesn’t have capability to see and imagine color (yet). It shouldn’t mean that he should say that there is not such thing as color.
Same goes for god, if we don’t have capability to see or imagine god (yet) it doesn’t mean we should finalize it that there is no such thing as god.
After all we are very small organisms in universe.
A universe of which we know very less about.
In that case I agree with you
Wtf does explaining a color 2 a blind person have to do with the possibility of a said God? They have no real correlation
A color blind can’t imagine a color, he can only read in words because he doesn’t have capability to see and imagine color (yet). It shouldn’t mean that he should say that there is not such thing as color.
Same goes for god, if we don’t have capability to see or imagine god (yet) it doesn’t mean we should finalize it that there is no such thing as god.
After all we are very small organisms in universe.
A universe of which we know very less about.
Just do it.
You can't explain it. If he can't differentiate between colours, there is no point in trying.
Anyhow, most colour blind people are red/green colour blind, I believe.
No. I sure can't nor can I prove or disprove the existance of God.
i get what ur saying, jus because he isn't visable doesn't mean he isn't there, but your wrong, the colour blue does exist, and god does not... a blind person and god are not something u can compare like that
Color blind
Yes, I can.
Blue is the part of the electromagnetic spectrum with a wavelength between 450 and 495 nanometers.\
What’s my prize?
What does the fact that God most likely does not exist have to do with color blind people? This question makes no sense.
Only 3 guys understood your "concept" because you phrased it stupidly.
Sure, if he's capable of understanding simple abstract ideas like most people.
Are you trying to say that if we can't see a god it doesn't mean it isn't there? Lmao
No that’s not what I mean
What does belief in God's existence has to do with explaining color to a color blind person?
Can you actually explain ANY color to someone who hasn't seen it? Not, not if you can't see the color at all.
what has religion got to do with explaining colour blindness,
A color blind can’t imagine a color, he can only read in words because he doesn’t have capability to see and imagine color (yet). It shouldn’t mean that he should say that there is not such thing as color.
Same goes for god, if we don’t have capability to see or imagine god (yet) it doesn’t mean we should finalize it that there is no such thing as god.
After all we are very small organisms in universe.
A universe of which we know very less about.
What do the two have to do with each other? Seems Non-Sequitur, to me. . .
The same way you can explain the ocean to someone who lives inland.
I understood the question. I can't see ultra-violet or infra-red but I know they're there.
yes. jus teach them the color variances. my dad is color blind but he can tell the difference between the colors, simple.
Can he imagine it?
If there is something blue and purple in front of him can he tell which one is which?
Blue is a higher energy photo than green, but lower than energy than violet.
QED
That's like wondering if a blind person dreams and what about.
What does the existence of God (or not) have to do with explaining things to a blind person?
@Jersey2 thanks for understanding lol I guess 101 yo age does bring wisdom 🤣
What... tf... Can you explain to me why there are abortions poverty isn't he supposed to be all caring
@Archerer actually this even supports my question even more 🤣
Abortions because people choose to have them, poverty because a lot of people are greedy self centred. When Adam and Eve went against God's instruction not to do something they and every generation since has paid the price, as humans disobeyed God told them to sort things out themselves basically. If a parent keeps trying to direct their child in the best way to go but they ignore it, they have to sometimes just say work it out yourself and deal with any mistakes you make as you didn't want my advice.
Why do you believe in God?
Moreover, why exactly the same God as your parents?
Please remember than whoever claims the existence of something is the one responsible for proving it. You cannot claim the existence of something but cannot prove it and yet ask people who do not agree with you to prove you wrong!
Blue reminds me of a cool or cold color so I would tell the blind person to feel ice water. That's my correlation of the color blue.
Weirdly enough, yeah.
I wouldn't do the whole sound or temperature analogy, considering how our eyes work, texture would be a better starting point.
Well for sure God doesn’t exist like us he is the true existence we are just less no comparison what so ever you can't grasp the logic behind God’s existence
Yes, measurable differences in wavelengths relating to light.
Uh I don't know what a person’s belief has to do with color blindness 😐
I know We don’t have to ask if this chick is a trump supporter.
I’m not even an American dude 💀
And I neither support trump nor biden
I think both are just racist assholes
What the fuck does my opinion have to do with politics? Smh, people nowadays are weird af
@still-alive
For people who don’t like pizza, can you explain to a colour blind person what is blue? The two r unrelated
That's just nowhere near an effective argument and suggests they're incapable of seeing your perspective
Maybe you're just a troll on a roll gongrats on all your attention.
Just you cannot see doesn't mean you cannot reach existence of it. Blue is just a wawe range and it is easy to differentiate by science and technology
That makes literally no sense. Blue is a color, god is a fictional character invented by people 6k years ago as a means of control no more no less.
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