No seriously, why do CHRISTIANS feel the necessity to lie about their beliefs?

[Wade12345]

As a former Christian, licensed and ordained Pastor, I gotta ask, why do so many christians feel the need to lie about their beliefs?

I did this to the Atheists, but lets' do it to Christians.

First of all, read Genesis chapters 8 and 9. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE "END OF TIME" IN OLD TESTAMENT PROPHECY AND THEOLOGY. IT JUST DOES NOT EXIST. FOREVER AND PERPETUAL GENERATIONS COVENANT MEANS THERE IS NOT AN END OF TIME.

Stop claiming any of Jesus' prophecies ever came to pass. I was a Christian for the first 36 years of my life, but I'm convinced that NOT EVEN ONE of Jesus' prophecies has ever come to pass, not even coincidentally nor by accident. People have even tried to FORCE Jesus's prophecies to come to pass and that didn't work either. Ezekiel's prophecy of Israel being reformed as a Sovereign nation has happened, but the words of Jesus of Nazareth are freaking lying vanities of no value to anyone. Period.

The man claimed to be "God in the flesh", but God is immortal and cannot die, and so the very fact Jesus died on a cross proves he wasn't God. He was put to death by the Romans for sedition and rebellion and insurrection.

If Jesus was God, why didn't he know microbes caused disease? Jesus told his disciples it was okay to eat without washing their hands, but whoever wrote Leviticus knew Microbes caused Disease. Jesus therefore PROVABLY falsely prophesied. Not only do we have the evidence that none of his prophecies have ever come to pass, but we have the evidence that he PROVABLY falsely prophesied. Therefore not only is he NOT "God in the Flesh" but his entire "Ministry" is therefore invalidated. What Jesus said was as ridiculous as Muslims believing pregnancy lasts for up to five years. It's FALSE and therefore should be rejected.

You ridiculous lying Christians need to Stop repeating Jesus's falsehoods and stop making up new falsehoods of your own.

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We got two camps of false prophets in Chrisitianity, and I've never supported either of them.

1) Constantly falsely prophesying the "End of time"

2) Constantly falsely prophesying blessings on people who pay tithe to the rich preacher. Nevermind the Law of Moses shows that the "Tithe and Offering" is supposed to go to orphans and widows, not rich people. "He who robs from the poor and he who gives to the rich shall both come to poverty."

[Honestguyopen]

I don't mean. To be argumentative or critical of your opinion here. However, I am surprised that you could spend so much time as a pastor and yet come to this conclusion. Washing of one's hands and the existence of microbes has nothing to do with prophecy, and is not in itself a prophecy.
Jesus never claimed to be almighty God in the flesh, who can not die. Rather is is called a god.
He prayed to his father while on earth and gave all glory to him.
His sermon on the mount foretold the sign of the last day's. Also, it's clear that you have not received a full understanding of what you believe you know. For instance, the cross of today that people use in worship is an idol. And you should know exactly how God feels about idolatry.

[Honestguyopen]

I wholeheartedly agree with everything in your update. While we wait for God's time to act and clean this world up, we are aware that like time, God has no beginning and no end.

Tithing also is not a requirement for modern day Christians. We should be cheerful givers of what we volunteer to give. It should be from the heart.

[VikingWarLord]

I was also a Christian at one time, now I'm an atheist.
I now don't even believe Jesus existed.
I was posting a video series called "EXCAVATING THE EMPTY TOMB" by a dude named TruthSurge on Youtube. Some Christian douchebags started reporting his videos for no reason so he almost had his channel taken down. But you can still find the first 15 videos out of 37 videos on a few other channels. Go watch those, it should be enough to prove that Jesus was a myth.

[CountessSarah]

Oh for fu---
Wade, you are not a mind reader.
When you start from a position of 'I know what you believe better than you do', /nobody/ is going to be persuaded or interested in anything you have to say. People aren't lying about what they believe, just because you don't like or understand what their position is.

You have to meet people where they're at - This shit is just a massive strawman argument and you should be embarrassed it's taken you this long to learn how stupid this is.

[Wade12345]

Get off my thread, you freaking congenital liar. I have no interest in reading your bullshit.

[CountessSarah]

Because you know I'm smarter than you and that you can't offer a worthwhile retort to anything I say.
Which is why you've started resorting to character assassination.

[Wade12345]

No you're a twice damned liar, and every time I prove your'e a liar you respond by deleting your own posts, or later changing your words and falsely accusing me after the fact.

No, the TRUTH does not compromise you lying bitch.

I do NOT need to "meet people where they're at" because they are fucking lying hypocrites, just like you, except they are on the opposite end of the rainbow. You're a lying atheist and don't even care what the truth is. They're lying "believers" and don't even care what the truth is.

You and the other atheists on the atheist thread still refuse to admit that the leading atheist "experts" insist everything came from nothing itself. You refuse to admit that's the default position of being an atheist, because it's the only position to be in once you reject the notion of a First Cause.

Science has proven the Universe is not self-eternal, so that leaves two positions for you to argue for:

1) The Truth, which is everything came from a First Cause, namely "God".

or

2) Lie about it and claim everythign came from nothing itself, or a possible third position of lying about believing in this position, simply because you're a liar.

Either way, I'm not going to "meet liars where they are" that's the ridiculous "agree to disagree" deception and nonsense you retard liberals believe in.

I don't need to tolerate an obvious lie, and I don't need to compromise with obvious liars.

That's what's wrong with you people on the internet. You can't seem to comprehend TRUTH IS NOT A MATTER OF OPINION. That's what's wrong with the way this entire website is structured too. Not only do they not care what the truth is, but both the owner/administrators and the majority of the users here promote anything but the truth.

[CountessSarah]

The fuck are you talking about - you can't delete posts on GAG unless you're the Asker.
You're now lying INSIDE your false accusation. Lying must be as natural as breathing for you, huh?

[Wade12345]

Smarter than me?

What is your I. Q?

I have an I. Q. of 145 +10/-11 according to the MENSA High I. Q. Society test.

The Truth is before I got sick my I. Q. on the High I. Q. Society test was over 180.

Compared to me you're an intellectual and moral gnat, and yet you think you somehow have an advantage over me or a superior moral or logical argument.

I've caught you and others on here lying repeatedly about the prevailing atheistic arguments the leading atheists use in formal debates, and I've caught YOU PERSONALLY lying about and changing your own statements repeatedly.

You know what? While Im at it, Two IDIOTS liked your comment.

[CountessSarah]

I have never denied anything some other atheist has said - All I've done is explain to you that I am not Richard Dawkins (Or whoever else)
I don't care what some other person said if it's not representative of MY position, you fucking inbred dipshit.

[CountessSarah]

https://youtu.be/4lwFK1ImzcA

[Wade12345]

And you also hardened your heart and lied about the hurricane, which I nailed on the spot almost two years ahead of time. I did not set a date, you congenital liar, I said I didn't know when it would happen, except that it would happen, and it happened.

I promise Hurricane Ida will be upgraded to Category 5 in post-season analysis, either when they first publish the post-season data, or in a few years, but I think NHC will get it right immediately this time, but it took almost 10 years before they got Hurricane Andrew right, so don't blame me if the scientists misunderstand their own data and their own definition of Category 5.

I propohesied that if the levees were not up to par, then as many as everyone in the region could have been killed. I waas not lying, and in reality the levees helt, but they did get over-topped in a few places, AND even the new levee ended up getting CRACKED in a few places, but did not suffer major failure. Had the levee been built to crappy standards as the old levee was, it would have failed.

The hurricane passed right over my house, we got 110mph sustained winds with gusts to 150mph, which is almost exactly what I expected to happen.

[CountessSarah]

That's not true - you had a deadline of September last year for your prophecy. It passed and you failed, then started lying about it later when you thought I'd have forgotten.
Do you need me to dig up the post tomorrow?
(Assuming it's not deleted because you can't go ten minutes without getting banned.)

[SamA_nold]

So you, out of everyone in the world, out of every religion and belief system out there… you picked the right interpretation?

[kyleelyn199723]

Because Christianity is nothing more than a pagan religion. They are satanists disguising themselves as holy people

[Cubus]

How would you define pagan?

[kyleelyn199723]

@Cubus satanists

[Cubus]

Well, by definition religion is "pagan" when it worships many gods. So Christianity can't be a pagan religion. The same with Judaism and Islam.

[kyleelyn199723]

All of them are satanists.

[Wade12345]

@Cubus Jewish Rabbis define Christianity as being "no different than paganism".

[Wade12345]

Judaism: "Hear Oh Israel, the Lord is ONE GOD... and he IS NOT A MAN."

Chrisitanity:
"Ummm, god is a man and is really three persons (a self-contradiction) and confused about his own identity."

[jshm2]

You sure know how to lie and spin some shit, bucko.

Wind your neck in.

[Massageman]

ref. https://answersingenesis.org

[Lonewolff21x]

I have been threatened by my current girlfriend if I try to belive in my faith that she would leave me for it

[Lillie_xo]

there there
itll all be okay

[MrTaboo]

Why did you lie about your beliefs?

[Wade12345]

I didn't lie about my beliefs, I was CORRECTED by the real God.

1) I've never once falsely prophesied anything, much less the "end of time".\ CountessSarah can harden her heart all she wants too. I nailed the hurricane prediction for New Orleans, and I did not prophesy in the name of Jesus, that's for darn certain.

2) While re-reading Genesis and Numbers one day, about 6 years ago now, the real God showed me just how much Christianity contradicts the Old Covenant the Jews really believe in. They are not the same religion and they do not worship the same God.