Why is the pope allowing Nancy Pelosi take part in communion?

[Stoner710]

Last time I checked you can’t be Catholic and support abortion at the same time. Being pro life is a requirement to be Catholic. By taking communion and being involved in a grave mortal sin means your eating your own death. Your going to going to be sitting in the lowest layer of hell.

there are similar beliefs in Islam Judaism and Christianity. You can’t be Muslim or Jewish (in the religious sense) or Christian and support abortion or gay marriage for that matter. Your rejecting the core tenets of these religions. So Nancy Pelosi isn’t a real Catholic same with Joe Biden they are rejecting not one but two if not 3 of the core beliefs of catholicism they should just come out as atheist right now, at least they are being honest by declaring themselves to be atheist.

I get that most of the democrats party are atheist. This would be like if your an atheist but believe in a higher power. You can’t be both atheist and believe in a higher power. Because atheist don’t think there is a hire power. That is the atheist equivalent of what Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi are doing with the Catholic faith.

[BCRanger10]

For one thing, because Pope Francis is very much a man of the left.

For another, he believes that Holy Communion is the "bread of sinners", which, to a certain degree, is true. In fact, the Church teaches that a worthy reception of Holy Communion can absolve venial sins (the Church distinguishes between venial and mortal sins). Supporting abortion, however, is a grave sin and requires sacramental Confession.

Francis has, therefore at best, a misguided sense of mercy. He believes that receiving Communion will convert someone's heart, but Pelosi has made her beliefs on the matter very clear and ought to be denied Holy Communion.

My props to her bishop, Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone, for finally following through on barring her from defiling the Body of Christ.

[RedThread]

They can be Catholics and not want abortion for themselves and those they care about and still believe in not enforcing their beliefs on the people as a whole. I think Biden has at least stated that he believes life begins at conception which align with his catholic beliefs but would stop short of forcing the entire country to follow his beliefs. Pelosi on the other hand, has been all over the map with regards to abortion. Who the hell knows what she really thinks on the subject.

[Stoner710]

Doesn’t that seem a bit hypocritical to believe one thing in your personal life but not in your political life. I act on my political and moral beliefs in my personal and public like I’m not shy about who I am because I have no reason to be. I am an agnostic conservative who understands because I was raised in at the ideas of the Catholic Church the price in church and Christian as a whole I’ve studied Islam I studied Judaism I’ve studied history I’m on history upon history from the far east to the far west. I know for the fact that in order for Pelosi and Biden to be true Catholics they have to observe the Catholic believe in personal and public life, Kennedy got lucky because most of the country agreed with him and the Catholic ideology what is the country was protestant. Kennedy got lucky because most of the country agreed with him and the Catholic ideology what is the country was protestant. Nowadays we hold all faith to a higher standard agnostics running to the idea of moral relativism Christians Jews anyone and sons believing in some sort of God has their direct faith in that ideology or religion whatever you wanna call it as an agnostic I can believe in the moral values on what I can believe without necessarily believe in me in a God so I’m a centrist in all forms as far as religion goes as far as claiming to be a part of religion and adhering to those tenants Pelosi and Biden are not appearing to those tenants and neither is Pope Francis

[RedThread]

I don't like to tell others how to follow their own beliefs but I'd rather have a leader who doesn't enforce their religious beliefs onto the entire country. I'm not a fan of Biden or Pelosi just to make that clear.

[Stoner710]

That’s fair about Pelosi or Biden. I remember the arch bishop of San Francisco banned Pelosi from taking communion because he’s in grave mortal sin. The Catholic I know tell me you can’t be Catholic and believe in abortion or gay marriage it’s pretty much a rejection of the faith. I know many Catholic don’t like pope Francis either and consider him a liberal/leftist

Also I don’t think leaders should be telling an entire country how to worship either. All I’m saying is if there going to claim a faith that is pro life and anti gay marriage she would portray that in her public life as well as private since they are political figured. Other wise there rejecting the faith.

[NamerOfStars]

Because he doesn't have the ability to stop her- directly, anyway; Nancy Pelosi doesn't live in Rome.

[Stoner710]

True but he doesn’t have to offer it to her in the first place.

[NamerOfStars]

Well, yes- if she's in good standing in the Church, he does.

[Stoner710]

But she is in bad standing with most Catholic Priestand Cardinals like the only person in the Catholic Church that likes her is Pope Francis who is a liberal pope pope Benedict would never have served her communion who is still alive. Fortunately the archbishop of San Francisco still wants over communion

[jshm2]

You need to go back and check again, bucko.

What the pope says, goes. In Catholicism. A stoner runt like you has no say in the matter.

[Stoner710]

I was raised Catholic, I’m still friends with a lot of Catholics most Catholics I know don’t respect this pope at all and want him removed.

[BCRanger10]

@jshm2 "What the pope says, goes." Where do you get that idea?

[truthisthree]

satanic org

[Stoner710]

Really!!! The Catholic Church is a leftist satanic organization? That’s news to me last time I checked they were a centrist right conservative organization.

[truthisthree]

they are satanic