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[Dinosaursandanime65]

If Christianity wasn’t reality, and all of the other made-up BS that rebels against it is, then literally anything could be real. One remarkably significant thing that has been debated about for some time, is The Multiverse. Copies of a universe that each differ in some way, big or small. The whole purpose of life, at least for Humans, is to determine where each Human soul belongs: Hell or Heaven. For starters, two versions of the same soul can’t exist (unless God makes that possible). At that point, you’d just have a twin. And people these days, are incredibly spiritually uneducated. I classify people like that as Spiritual Retards. They’re just like children, believing anything they’re told. The only difference between them, is the child remains pure. At least until they’re 8. But, that’s what I’m discussing.

The second reason why Christianity is… reality, all together, is, if the Multiverse did exist, then Life would be the epitome of Irrelevant/Pointless/Meaningless/Disparage. Once again, the Home of your Soul is determined by Life. It separates the good from the bad. That would all have no meaning, if there were universes, that had the same people, and they each were different. In at least one of those universes, A version of every person to ever exist is a good human being. So everyone would automatically go to Heaven, which from what I know according to the BIBLE, won’t happen. To top that off, it would ALSO make Jesus’ sacrifice irrelevant too. He died, miserably, so we all would have a chance at entering God’s Holy Kingdom. If he did that to save everyone, but they didn’t need saving, then….. What’s the point?

Quick Fun Fact: God loves you. No questions asked!

ANOTHER thing I should mention is Good and Bad wouldn’t exist without Christianity. There would just be you, everyone else, and the Universe. No creator. No origin, no story. Just, exist to exist. And imagine if the concept of Good wasn’t known at any point in history. Dear Christ……

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How could you say no? After all he’s like your dad

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I’m gonna get some normal people and see what they think about my Valid Short Essay. I probably could have made a more… professional title, but that’s the only issue I see with it.

[NamerOfStars]

Um, no, all you've done is stated a seeming inconsistency that doesn't actually hold up to examination. Let's take your points one by one:

1. "If Christianity wasn’t reality, and all of the other made-up BS that rebels against it is, then literally anything could be real." If anything, this is backwards; an omnipotent god is capable of literally anything; a limited god, or collection thereof, or a godless universe, has much more limited capabilities.

2. "Copies of a universe that each differ in some way, big or small." There CAN'T, by DEFINITION, be multiple universes; the whole purpose of the word is encompass everything. A copy would simply be another part of the universe.

3. "For starters, two versions of the same soul can’t exist (unless God makes that possible). At that point, you’d just have a twin." Um, twins DO exist. And they're not the same people; just people with the same genetic code. Epigenetics aside, they're different even as babies, which I suppose could be taken as evidence of the soul, but you've lead yourself back into your original point: an all-powerful god COULD make two copies of the same soul, so it's doable in Christianity, but not in most other faiths.

4. "Once again, the Home of your Soul is determined by Life. It separates the good from the bad. That would all have no meaning, if there were universes, that had the same people, and they each were different. In at least one of those universes, A version of every person to ever exist is a good human being." Now you're just not thinking- if a person's actions and attitudes in life are what determines the worthiness of their soul to enter Heaven, then it doesn't matter what other versions of you with the same soul do; you make your own choices. It's like with twins: they have the same genetic code, but each of them is free to be good or bad as they decide. Unless you're going to argue that one's spiritual genetics (or whatever they're called) determine worthiness, in which case there's no point to it ANYWAY, since the decision's already been made, and the predestination crowd is right.

5. "To top that off, it would ALSO make Jesus’ sacrifice irrelevant too. He died, miserably, so we all would have a chance at entering God’s Holy Kingdom. If he did that to save everyone, but they didn’t need saving, then….. What’s the point?" Putting skin in the game. Look at God's pre-Jesus treatment of people: beating up the Egyptians could've been excused as showing up the other gods, and was arguably "necessary" to get the Hebrews freed, but it was GOD that chose to harden the Pharaoh's heart each time, culminating in the slaughter of thousands of innocent children. It was GOD that chose to lead His people through the desert for forty years, killing off two generations before letting them reach Israel. It was GOD who ordered the inhabitants of Jebus, and countless other cities (you didn't think the Israelites BUILT Jerusalem, did you?) slain, down to the last animal and PLANT. God is, by modern definitions, pretty damn evil. Jesus' sacrifice was an attempt to prove He'd changed; that it wasn't about cruelty and demands any more. No, not everyone is in need of forgiveness; not everyone sins. "Original sin" is just a bullshit marketing gimmick; any epistemoligist worth their salt will tell that you sin requires moral agency, and you don't have any before you're born.

[NamerOfStars]

6."Quick Fun Fact: God loves you. No questions asked!" Tell that to the firstborn sons of Egyptians. Tell that the Ephramites. Tell that to the homosexuals, or the Mayans born on the opposite side of the planet, held to hew to a message they were never given any way of receiving. If you make people, born with no chance of salvation due to YOUR decisions, suffer eternal torment, and claim to LOVE them, what do you do to those you hate?

7. "ANOTHER thing I should mention is Good and Bad wouldn’t exist without Christianity." That's not Christianity; that's Manicheanism. I wouldn't go pushing that while advocating for Christianity; those two groups did NOT get along. Good and bad existed for tens of thousands of years before Christianity did. I mean, do you think Jews didn't know the difference? That God knew, but kept it to Himself? That's kind of the whole point of the story of Adam and Eve.

[Dinosaursandanime65]

I can’t tell if this is supposed to be an argument, but you imply that you aren’t a Man of God, so I bestow to you Walmart

[NamerOfStars]

Other way around. I AM a man of God, because I don't blindly accept what I'm told, the way an animal would- or like you unfortunately seem to. We were not given sense, reason, and intellect that we should forego their use.

For that matter, if you're bound and determined to accept God without questioning Him, Christianity's not for you. Islam may be more your speed.

[Dinosaursandanime65]

Oh, nice. I don’t question him, I made this short essays with the attempt of educating the kind of people I classify as Spiritual Retards

[IesusHominumSalvator]

Good boy... I will tell you something, the christian civilization is superior, we have more than 2000 years already and counting, there will be always worms who try to destroy the order, the discipline, the beauty and the truth, but they will fail always.

[Dinosaursandanime65]

The “good boy” part gave me sarcasm vibes, but the rest seems normal. You get Apple Bees too

[Snsl153]

Superior to what? And how? Don't delude yourself like this.

[Dinosaursandanime65]

@Snsl153 To everything against it, which is basically just everything

[IesusHominumSalvator]

@Snsl153 Christianity is superior to your chaos, to your ugliness, to your laziness, to you horrible music, to your sexual promiscuity (similar to those of the monkeys), to your weakness, to your moral relativism and to your wickedness in general.

[IesusHominumSalvator]

Europe is superior to Africa for the simple reason that they always looked for discipline, order, hard work, self mastery, that's how the Roman Empire became christian because Christianity gathers all the good values that makes someone superior.

[Dinosaursandanime65]

Even though it was supposed to happen, I still don’t like Romans. But Europeans love Americans

[Snsl153]

MY chaos? MY ugliness? Horrible music? Listen you silly, gullible clown, just because a person isn't Christian that doesn't mean they're a bad person. I'm not "lazy", and the music I listen to isn't "horrible". It's not my problem that you happen to be a dinosaur who can't cope with life in the 21st century, but hopefully quite soon people like you will, like the dinosaurs, become extinct.

[Dinosaursandanime65]

@Snsl153 dinosaurs are already extinct unless you count birds. But don’t worry, it’s already happening now. You just don’t realize how…. Saddening it is for their opposers. I think but hope you don’t understand… or at least not in the worse way

[Snsl153]

I wasn't talking to you, I was talking to the Christian Nazi.

[IesusHominumSalvator]

@Snsl153 I am replying you how Christianity is superior and i think you have it clear why our religión is superior... And yes Greek philisophers had Good ideas already and they were not Christian, however with Christianity their good ideas of order, beauty, truth were fullfilled... And i will remind you: we have more than 2000 years, there is no liberal, there is no communist, there is no atheist, there is no revolutionary like you who will destroy US, because we are superior morally, intelectual y, and we will die if necessary for Good and the truth.

[Snsl153]

God, what absolute tosh! The Japanese, being just one example I can immediately think of, were appreciative of aesthetics (ie beauty) without having any contact with any so-called Christian civilisations for most of their history.
Buddhists understood the concept of truth and what it meant long before your false god got himself nailed to a cross. The concept of good and evil originated with the Zoroastrians.
Superior morally? Oh come on, don't make me laugh! How is it "morally superior" to kill people at weddings in Afghanistan using drones? How is it moral for the CIA to stage coups when elections results in some far off country don't go the way the US government wants them to? How is it moral for people to be imprisoned for the "crime" of smoking marijuana, and when was capital punishment ever moral?
You clearly have no idea here, no clue what you're talking about.

[Snsl153]

I'm not a "revolutionary", I don't plan on subverting the USA, simply because I don't need to; the USA is currently destroying itself, and I simply cannot wait to see it fall in a heap of ruins! Good riddance to bad rubbish I say! The world will be much better off without that evil, rotten empire.

[Snsl153]

Christianity isn't "superior"; it's vile, degrading, anti-human, false and utterly idiotic.
"Verily, I say unto you, there be some standing here which shall not taste of death till they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom" - Matthew 16:28
Well, 2000 years later, and long after that generation died out, we're still waiting. What's taking him so long? Is he stuck in traffic?
And that's just one example of the many failed Biblical predictions.

[IesusHominumSalvator]

@Snsl153 Hahahahahah so you think the CIA is a christian organization? Please i know you hate us, but don't be delusional and don't speak non-sense, so you think the Pope sent drones to bomb Afghanistan? or what are you talking about... because i don't get it...

I don't care if some "christian" kills 2000 people in a mass shooting... the church and christianity never commanded that.

[IesusHominumSalvator]

@Snsl153 Don't be silly heretic... read the whole chapter to understand that profecy is for the people who will see certain signals like when the sun will be dark and other things... that never happened, not yet.

Where does christianity or the church (catholic because i am catholic) says that you have to be imprisoned for being a pothead? Tell me where and who says that, we will only guide people into good showing them the light... and why being a satanic drug addict is like being a pathetic worm, we will teach people how is that wrong, and we will try you to embrace christianity and GLORY...
We respect the free will given by God, however we will never tolerate that crap and accept that evil is good and that 2+2 = 5

[IesusHominumSalvator]

@Snsl153 And lastly i am not from USA, USA is a heretical country full of whales, pot heads and sexually promiscuous monkeys... Even the republicans... Their music is ape music like rap... so i don't like USA at all, it's an anti christian country, it's a satanic republic democracy... I only support monarchy and f4sc1sm

[Bee-Hatch]

Dude this was painful to read. It's incoherent and rambling. there's bits that contradict other bits. And you're using bits of theoretical physics to construct your argument. But if you take that to its logical extent physics also gives us the evidence of the big bang, which makes the seven days of creation a myth. You also say it's not possible to have good and bad without Christianity, which is obviously and objectively nonsense.


It's good you're writing and thinking for yourself, but theology is something you need to explore further to build up some sound arguments next time.

[Dinosaursandanime65]

I think Seven Days isn’t literal because Dinosaurs

[EllaNella]

i was wondering what kind of person would put out this incoherent babble and then i looked at your age

[Dinosaursandanime65]

Walmart…

[EllaNella]

there is no walmart in my country actually, so no.
also what a cringy reply

your logic in this post is circular and therefor faulty. you try to prove the existence of christianity through it's own rules, which isn't possible and nowhere near empirical.

[Dinosaursandanime65]

I take that back, Dragon Ball Evolution

[OfDeath]

No, that's all completely nonsensical. Good and bad existed in intersubjective human agreement before Christianity. It's a complete non-sequitur that absolutely anything would be possible if Christianity is wrong. Christianity is also already proven to be self contradictory, factually incorrect and fantastical nonsense.

[Dinosaursandanime65]

No one would know what is a good and what’s bad without God. You get Dragon Ball Evolution.

[OfDeath]

Good and bad are subjective and ultimately become intersubjective among humans in communication. They are opinion based on the result of learning the consequences of certain actions and how those consequences affect the individual or others involved. No god is required here.

[Dinosaursandanime65]

People now literally think cutting off your Pingas and then saying you’re a girl is okay and normal, imagine how history would have started off without him

[OfDeath]

People used to think holding someone down against their will and cutting their penis off and holding it up to the sky was ok and normal and what "god" liked.

People still cut part if it off.

God is a figment of human imagination.

[Dinosaursandanime65]

I think the thing you find confusing is what god. It sounds like you’re referencing an ancient religion of some kind, like Aztec or something

[OfDeath]

It's Christian's, jews and muslims who all derive their god from a common source who ritually cut off parts of human genitals male and female and think a fictional being likes that.

With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion

"God" has perverted the idea of what good and bad should be rather than having given humanity the concepts. History is proof of that.

You lose bud.

[Deathraider]

Congratulation. You have convinced me. I think you need to go up to college campuses and convince all the faithless of your good word. When you go up there, be sure to scream it so that all can hear your message.

[Dinosaursandanime65]

If I may be honest, I don’t think it’s worth $40,000 a year, and I can’t scream.

[Snsl153]

You have a LOT to learn. Thankfully you're still very young, only 15, so there is hope yet.

[DryGermanGuy]

Somebody is putting ideas into this kid‘s head.

[Dinosaursandanime65]

Walmart

[AndrésC64]

Give me one piece of evidence for the existence of your invisible friend. I will wait, but I'm not going to hold my breath. Because in the entire history of your religion there has never been one single shred of evidence presented.

[IesusHominumSalvator]

You are the kind of idiots who would find a bridge in the middle of a forest and would say: "Look at that bridge! It was formed through 2000 million years... Then You would say: do You have proof there was a creator of that bridge? And right we can't show You the architect of that, BUT rationally You know there is a creator of that, yo don't need to SEE that architect yo believe this bridge was created by an intelligent mind.

[AndrésC64]

@IesusHominumSalvator difference being we know Bridges we have seen Bridges and we know how they are billed and we build them ourselves. Hardly the same at all for the world or the universe. Try again?

[TwoToTooTutu2]

I don't understand what you're saying, but my favorite logical argument is "if the universe is infinite, than there must be infinite possibilities. God is a possibilities, therefore God exists.

[Dinosaursandanime65]

I’m not sure what kind of person you are, so you get “Apple Bees”

[CountessSarah]

I'm 14 and this is deep

[OddBeMe]

The multiverse is unproven, same as god. Boom.

[Dinosaursandanime65]

Well the thing is whenever people like you search for proof, you want something from him. He has been proven many times, just never in a good way

[OddBeMe]

Proof requires ability for anyone to see it. Or its not proof. Boom.

[Dinosaursandanime65]

You don’t want to see it. And I certainly, as a Christian, will not show it myself. An important factor for stuff like this is believing. Right now, I’m like Horton and you’re like the Kangaroo. And everyone else who tried killing Horton under he command.

[OddBeMe]

that's not how logic works. Proof is visible whether you believe or not. Might require microscopes, but its there no matter what a person's mind believes.

Anything else is bullshit. Sorry.