Do you believe you can be "saved" without being religious? Does God exist? Or is it crucial to find out which religion is "correct" before dying?

[L12xX]

Some people believe that religions, are simply various interpretations of the same truth. And that in the end, all that matters is your connection to God/ The Intelligent Creator and that you operate from a place of love. That Universal truths are the most important ones to live by.

OR

Some people believe that religion is necessary to be "saved" regardless of your faith

Others don't believe in God or religion at all.

What do you believe? Please explain.

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- If you chose religion, why do you think most people can't agree on which religion to follow? Why do you believe the truth is so hard for people to agree on? What do you believe the objective Truth about life is (meaning anyone being honest with themselves would no doubt agree on?)

- If you chose no God, please also elaborate. Because the question "what came first, science or existence", clearly opens our eyes that science was man-made in order for humans to try and understand the complexities of existence. So please try to give a more convincing argument than "science" for your belief.

Everyone please remember to be respectful of each others opinions. Personal attacks towards others will result in a warning and removal/report of comment as necessary if continued. It is important to have a safe place to discuss important or difficult topics, which is my goal in creating this account.

I believe that God/Intelligent Creator is real, and that religions are various interpretations of the same Truth. Religions offer structure & guidance to help people better connect to God & live better lives. It's more about your faith & LESS about the religion you follow or don't follow.

I believe in both, but religion is more important than faith. It's important to open your eyes to the CORRECT religion or your soul could be in danger.

I believe in religion but don't necessarily believe in God

I do not believe in God or religion.

I really have no idea what the truth is. I experience existential dread occasionally or regularly.

I have no idea what the truth is but I don't really care. I'm making the most of this life while I'm here and when I go, I go. I don't need to know what happens.

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By "saved" I mean can faith alone "save" you or do you need to follow a religion.

[NamerOfStars]

What exactly do think you need to be "saved" from? I think that most people who hold to a religion do so mostly for a better afterlife outcome, and also that in doing so, they're missing the point: if you get nothing from your faith before you die, then you have the wrong faith.

I believe that God is not some blind, unthinking force, but a reasoning, observing being. If *I*, perhaps more wise than average, but still very human and limited, can see that what people say with their words and actions is not necessarily what they mean, then logically, a being who sees their hearts and desires unclouded by human limits is going to be more accepting and understanding of those failings, not less. Jesus Himself affirmed that loving God and your neighbors was "more important than all burnt offerings and sacrifices".

Why, then, do I think people can't agree on which religion to follow? Because I don't think they should. Suppose that tomorrow morning, you discover that you've inherited a company, and are in charge of making it run. Would you want the production workers to do the same things as the marketers? Or the janitors spend all day doing the jobs of the vice presidents?

[L12xX]

Thank you for sharing!

[OfDeath]

What do you mean by "saved"? Saved from what?

Does god exist? I don't know but I doubt it. There's no reason to believe it does.

How could there be an "intelligent creator" "BEFORE" existence itself? That doesn't even mean anything. It is an incoherency.

And by the way, science is not an explanation for existence. It is the tool we use to ascertain fact.

[L12xX]

Science is a tool for humans to try and understand the complexities if our reality. This includes existence but is not exclusive to it. So not being able to measure something doesn’t mean it’s not real. It just means humans can’t understand it yet. That said, haven’t you heard that time is an illusion? As as we know if you go into space time works very differently there too. One could argue that if you don’t believe in an intelligent creator due to time, than you also can not believe in our existence. Because nothing that happened to create us in the first place would make any sense either. There are things we just don’t yet understand as humans, we are limited. But it doesn’t mean they aren’t real. What’s least likely is that we came into existence without any form of intelligent force planning it. That’s the most unlikely scenario if you think about it. It’s too complex and precise. Even the sun would burn the e tire earth if it was just slightly angled differently.

[OfDeath]

What you are doing is using fantasy to justify belief in another fantasy. There is simply no indication anywhere that an intelligent universal knob twiddler exists and if it does, it explains nothing because it requires an even greater explanation.

There is no evidence whatsoever that humans came into existence because of the planning of a cosmic knob twiddler. In fact, we have confirmed theories for how not only life, but the entire universe has evolved from its fundamental state. Not needing a designer to explain something as complex as life actually makes intelligent design not only unlikely, but utterly absurd. Because it is pure fantasy.

[OfDeath]

And by the way that comment about if the sun was angled different was absolutely uproarious. You clearly have a very rudimentary understanding of basic geometry.

[L12xX]

Okay I’m not going to sit here and try to explain something you clearly aren’t ready to understand yet. When you’re ready you’ll understand. But your argument didn’t make sense. And I’m not I retested I’m trying to explain it further to you. But each entitled to their own beliefs. Wish you well.

[L12xX]

**im not interested in trying to

[OfDeath]

I understand your argument and it is terrible. It is an incoherency and at the end if the day an argument from ignorance fallacy. Theism's worst failure.

I'm always amused when theists think they've somehow made some kind of mic drop argument and it's just another argument from ignorance or from incredulity. Laughable.

[Anonymous]

I don't think religion is important. Just live your life and be happy and be a good person
If you want to be religious then that's your choice

[L12xX]

Thank you for sharing!

[ColHathi]

I don't think I saw it as an option, but I believe we're "saved" regardless of what faith/religion/god we believe in.

[L12xX]

Thank you for sharing! Do you think someone needs to believe in some form of God to be "saved"? Or that all humans including atheist are safe after death?

[ColHathi]

All humans :p

[L12xX]

Okay thank you for sharing your opinion! :)

[Iron_Man]

Who’s going to save you if you are not saved. Only God can do that get right with the Lord

[L12xX]

Thank you for sharing your opinion. Do you believe people need to follow a particular religion to be saved, or is faith alone enough?

[Iron_Man]

The Lord Jesus Christ does exist, He died on the cross, to save us from our sins.

[Iron_Man]

Basically, you’re saying you don’t wanna go to church, so you don’t want to be held to any church, but you have to have a personal relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ, and accept him as a person, Lord and Savior to be saved

[L12xX]

Okay thank you. So to clarify, you are saying Christianity is the way to salvation correct?

[Iron_Man]

Read the prior post I sent you

[L12xX]

Okay thank you for sharing! I personally have not given my opinion at all. I asked a question and gave options. Your answer is indirect. But I am understanding that you are saying, you need religion to know and connect with Jesus, and so both faith and religion are equally as important. Is that correct?

[Iron_Man]

You should go to church and be held to a church and that’s all Christianity but the most important thing is having your own personal relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ and accept him as your personal Lord and Savior the church. can teach you and guide you, but you have to have your own personal relationship with Jesus Christ and believe that he died on the cross to save you from your sins, and you shall not perish. You will
have everlasting life.

[L12xX]

Okay thank you for sharing. I understand you are saying the most important thing is your relationship with Jesus Christ. :)

[Iron_Man]

Yes very good

[Guy13]

One can be saved without religiosity as atheists etc are also religious. God exists.

[L12xX]

Thank you for sharing your opinion! Just to clarify, are you saying that believing in God is the most important thing? Or that all humans are saved even if they are atheists?

[Guy13]

God saves whereas anyone can express religiosity. Atheists are religious too. Those In Christ Jesus are saved and from their faith they do good works.

[BJP21]

You will be saved by grace not by baptism itself.

[strateguy632]

1, yes faith alone will "save" you, 2 yes, 3 yes

[Dav1dTh0ma389]

I question the existence of, simply because too many people do too much evil, in the name of

[L12xX]

Thank you for sharing! Part of our existence is living in a world where opposites exist. So there’s always good and bad, that’s part of our experience on earth. If duality didn’t exist, good wouldn’t necessarily exist either. So it’s part of the human experience on earth. The good news is, there is actually a lot of good in the world still! The illusion that there isn’t is often because the news shows more of the bad than good. Because it « sells » and then people think that’s what’s going on everywhere. On another note, we as humans have the survival instinct to pay more attention to and remember more of the bad stuff. So it’s easy fur us to get caught up in thinking there is more bad than good. As someone who used to feel that way too and turned my life around, I can assure you there’s plenty of good in the world too! You just need to start noticing it more. Something that can help is journaling. Writing about what you’re grateful for in your life, and good things you notice others or yourself doing. You might be surprised also, that the more you focus your attention on the good happening, the more you will experience it in your own life too overtime. It’s a bit of a skill to learn but it’s absolutley possible! I also like this app called « Synctuition » as it’s given me an extra nudge I’m helping me with this too. Cause it’s not easy to see when your mind has been programmed differently.

[jshm2]

You're confused.

Only Christians believe in the "saved" concept as only Christians adhere to the "Original Sin" theology.

Hence your question is moot.

[L12xX]

Im not religious and used the work « saved » loosely. Maybe I could have used different wording to be more clear. But if you actually read the question you should still be able to answer and understand what I mean. It sounds more like you are the confused one from your answer. I’m very clear on what I’m asking even if I didn’t use all the perfect words. You’re nit picking and your answer is ignorant. It’s important to learn to be open minded in life. Not so judgmental and closed minded. That’s a problem.

[talka20]

Dm pls