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It is nothing like pagan religions, where people were buried with their belongings, or polytheistic religions in which every city had its own god.
Christianity, which most of you belong to, is considered by some to have begun as a sect of Judaism. Since the Jews no longer had a sovereign state, it lacked the institutions that might have kept it within Judaism. Its revolutionary feature was its claim to universality, which separated it from Judaism and gave rise to missionary work.
Judaism centers on the revelation of the Torah to Moses, alongside later rabbinic traditions. Christianity is different: the Gospels were written decades later by people traditionally linked to the apostles. Rather than being presented as God's direct words, they mainly recount Jesus' life. One could argue that this makes Christianity easier to reinterpret and reform.
Islam, meanwhile, also claimed universality but almost immediately became the religion of a state. Within a century it had spread from al-Andalus to Khorasan. Muslim scholars developed detailed traditions in hadith, sira, aqidah, fiqh, kalam, and tafsir. In that sense, Islam combines Judaism's strong textual tradition with Christianity's missionary outlook while avoiding what many see as their weaker aspects. Its legal and theological traditions are so comprehensive that major reform is far more difficult.
Muslims also tend to place greater emphasis on the ummah and religious commitment. British Protestant schools in the Ottoman Empire initially aimed to convert Muslims, but their own reports admitted they achieved little success because Muslims were deeply attached to their faith. Many schools instead focused on converting Armenians.
Recently, a comedy portrayed Jesus as gay and drew relatively little reaction from Christians, despite Christianity being the world's largest religion. Try making a similar claim about the Prophet Muhammad to a Muslim. If your head is still attached afterward, consider yourself lucky :D
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Islam is great at organizing midnight rendezvous with large groups of naked black men from the Al Zutt for anal sex orgies in the desert following the example of Muhammad who was pounded by an endless supply of large black cocks all night long... all night... all night... all night long... filling him with gallons of hot African semen while Abdullah watched from behind the cuck line.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/jtTYxxmVpvAYarkaboon in Muhammad butt hole by thousands of penises... Muhammad really had a thing for the black guys.
They were indeed central to the slave trade, and still control it. They have also been central to piracy. One of the first wars fought by the USA was against the Barbary states.
Modern record keepers claim the largest gang bang in history was by 500 people, but that doesn't even come close to Muhammad and the night of the Al Zutt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crhHX-_eieM
@FrodoSkywalker007 The largest slave trade in history was the Atlantic slave trade, and it was carried out by the Western world.
On the other hand, the United States paid tribute to the Ottoman Empire to ensure the protection of its ships. You were protected from the Barbary pirates by Barbary sailors who were under Ottoman rule.
Dude, worry about saving your sister from Black men's semen first.
I don't have any sisters. Stop projecting about your tranny sibling chai boys doing bacha bazi. Bunch on gay pedophiles.
@MerakSahibi it's unfortunate you are terribly uneducated on this topic.
Remind me again, who were the most significant nations during the Atlantic slave trade? Shall we also ignore the Arab slave trade? https://www. dandc. eu/en/article/transatlantic-slave-trade-had-devastating-impact-africa-and-affects-continent-day-fact-arab
Oh, the USA certainly paid tribute at first, until being forced to defeat the Barbary States in 2 wars history.state.gov/.../barbary-wars
@FrodoSkywalker007 Muslims lie about everything. The Islamic slave trade took about 18 million Africans, 11 million Asians, and 2 million Europeans if you exclude the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade. The Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade took about 12.5 million slaves total. Islam took 2.5 times as many slaves for their own purposes. The biggest slave traders in the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade were the Portuguese who learned about the Islamic slave trade from the Muslim presence in Iberia, when North African Muslims (“Moors”) occupied significant parts of the region and imparted their culture and firsthand knowledge of the slave trade. Early Portuguese expeditions to West Africa on the Mauritanian coast where due to information gathered from earlier experiences with Muslim slave networks in Europe. The Muslims brought the slaving culture to Europe and created the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade because they were the occupiers of many African regions that were selling Black Africans as the Muslims conquered and colonized their lands.
Event the second largest group in the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade (England) through the East India Trade Company were entangled with Islamic Freemasonry. So it's kind of hard to separate Islam from the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade. They were central players.
*"Even"
You're making those numbers up. The Atlantic slave trade, which lasted roughly 200 years, transported more slaves than the slave trade across the Islamic world over the course of twelve centuries.
There is also no single, uniform status for slaves in the Islamic world. Did you know that entire armies were commanded by Mamluks—who were technically slaves—and that the Grand Viziers of the Ottoman Empire, effectively the prime ministers of their time, were often members of the Kapıkulu slave institution?
The Black slaves in the Islamic world were primarily Abyssinians. Many were castrated by Copts before being sold. Do you know how influential these men could become as Chief Black Eunuchs in the Ottoman palace? They were not working on cotton plantations.
The orientalist historian Philip Mansel even argues that many slaves in the Islamic world lived more comfortably than domestic servants in the West.
Muslims brought slavery to Europe? Give me a break. Didn't they teach you where the word "slave" comes from? Or have you never even heard of Ancient Rome?
Yet, I just gave you a link that proves it was more brutal, with a higher death rate.
Its ironic you lost the Barbary wars argument so quickly...
Embarrassing.
Look at the gay Muslim try to sell slavery to people.
@indissoluble well said. Muslims always ignore their brutal history. It's sad. at least westerners accept their history. This guy is from Turkey, last time I checked the government still denies the Armenian genocide. Even Cenk Uyger of the Young Turks denied it.
@MerakSahibi he's not arguing that slavery didn't exist in Europe. He is arguing that Muslims influenced European powers to turn it into an industry, and aided in creating one of the darkest eras on their history.
@FrodoSkywalker007 It is not politicians who decide what constitutes a genocide or a massacre, but independent historians.
In my view, the Armenian Genocide did happen. However, if, when asked who carried out the Holocaust, your answer is "Hitler and the Nazis" rather than "the Germans," then you cannot hold the Turks collectively responsible for the Armenian Genocide either.
Have you ever heard the names Enver, Talat, and Cemal?
@FrodoSkywalker007 Funny enough the entire tale of Count Dracula is because of Islam. Islam would take Eastern Orthodox Christian children as slaves and force them to become Janissary who would be used to conquer Christian lands. The Muslims would take people's children as party of jizya and then train the children to kill their own Christian people so that they could rob the Christians of their land. This resulted as in one of the Janissary Prince Vlad Dracul murdering and impaling countless numbers of his own people and carrying out scorched earth policy to drive away the Muslims in fear, because what can you do to a person that will do that to his own people. The entire story of vampires was created directly due to Muslim cruelty.
*"part"
@MerakSahibi Honestly, the Germans take responsibility for it.
@indissoluble that one I did know. Very interesting
Look, you do have a point historically, but that's more a feature of Turkish imperial practice than of Islam itself.
I'm sorry, but we need to accept how Islam create bad actors. Why are all of the top terrorist organizations Muslim? Web simply don't have a comparison for other faiths or ideologies.
@FrodoSkywalker007 The devshirme system which means to collect, gather, or more specifically "harvest" took Christian children. That's how Muslims see Christians and Jews. They see us as a crop that can be "harvested"... Islam is completely fucked up.
@indissoluble sick 🙁
@FrodoSkywalker007
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tQZDL0CxAs
Not a single Jewish child was recruited through the devshirme system. One reason was that Jews generally lived in large cities and port towns and were mostly engaged in trade. My ancestors believed that the children of merchants would be too street-smart, so they preferred to recruit Christian peasant boys who were considered more impressionable.
One notable exception often mentioned is the Bosnians. Even after many Bosnians had converted to Islam, some families reportedly volunteered their sons for service in the Ottoman administration and military. By the 18th century, however, the devshirme system had largely disappeared.
As for Australia, a somewhat comparable policy was carried out by the Australian government against Aboriginal children. You can look up the term "Stolen Generations."
@MerakSahibi I'm not sure that makes your history look that good
it’s organized the same way a herd of sheep is, they need a shepherd to tell them what to think.
First of all, you do have a point. However, the Roman Catholic Church is by far the most centralized religious institution. In contrast, the Islamic world developed its schools of jurisprudence in a much more decentralized way, from Cairo to Istanbul and from Mashhad to Bukhara.
On the other hand, both Turkish and Arabic use the word *siyaset* for "politics." Its root is related to *seyis*—a groom or horse trainer. Just as a groom guides and disciplines a horse, a statesman guides the people. The Ottomans referred to their peasant subjects as *reaya*, a word meaning "flock" or "herd." Considering that human beings are, in many ways, social herd animals, I think the term has a certain logic behind it.
Moreover, independent local Islamic scholars have often criticized the decisions of rulers rather than simply endorsing them.
Other social animals don't turn into terrorists when guided though
Come on, I'd expect better from a Russian
Tatars are the most integrated communities and they are kind of muslim
Islam is one of the most militant ones, so in that sense I agree. Its a very hostile religion, but thankfully many of its followers aren't.
That's true if they are Muslims who don't take the faith too seriously
Your last sentance is the point. Question or go against the abusive, murder, sexual assault, paedophilic cult of islam and you’re killed. It’s easy to ”keep organized” when you murder or severely punish anyone who questions it or wants no part of it.
Well said
good conclusion about the corruption of justice.
Not even a religion, a cult at best but at least more of the are interesting and collapse upon themselves
Nope. Not even close.
Do you find anything I said to be incorrect?
Didn't bother because the premise itself is incorrect.
It's certainly central to terrorism
It's amusing when Americans who barely know their own surroundings try to comment on the rest of the world.
The British were very different. They built an empire, came into contact with countless societies, and engaged in trade across the globe. Their approach was more rational than romantic. They studied the peoples they interacted with in remarkable detail. Dictionaries of Sanskrit, Old Persian, and Coptic were produced by British scholars. They were even pioneers in the field of Turkology.
To be fair, many people in the Islamic world believe that ISIS was an organization created by American intelligence, and that events such as 9/11 and figures like Osama bin Laden were ultimately part of U. S. policy. I'm not saying that's true, but it is a widely held mainstream belief in many parts of the Muslim world.
So, you are uneducated and a conspiracy theorist? The British never colonized? They never conquered people? Never enforced their will in their empire? Get real.
No offense friend, it's a debate you will lose badly. Same with the influence of Islamic cultures, which conquered roughly half of the Christian world. Why even try? Comparing the British Empire to the USA? The majority of history didn't even have to deal with things like international law.
You've having a f****** laugh.🤣