Unmasking Feminism (Page 5)

[Anonymous]

Spotted the guy posing as a girl.

[Sjeggy]

even then, so what?
are you truly that sexist?
gender is absolutely irrelevant in this context!

[myTake Owner]

Typical... assume because a female isn't an instant feminist, I have to be a guy.
I assure you like MANY women who are against feminism, your ignorant attempt to force/shame people into adherence shows how bullying your group is.
You say you are fighting to make women strong, independent, and free... BUT if one doesn't agree with your ideology for VALID reasons, you attack. You stifle their voice, their freedom, call them weak, refuse to allow them the independence of free choice. YOU and YOUR comment is exactly why feminism is bad.
Insisting on TELLING people how and what they should be or say because YOU want them too.

[Opinion Owner]

Hahaha I never said anything like that, you just sound like a dude that's all.

[myTake Owner]

So why do I sound like "a dude" then. I would love to know how you are gendering me based solely on my words.

[Opinion Owner]

You just do, chill :P

[myTake Owner]

Cop Out. You have no valid reason except that the post was against something you feel ALL women should support.

womenagainstfeminism. tumblr. com
There are many many many of us who are not men.

[Maverickj]

So a girl can never be against feminism? Nice sexism.

[Opinion Owner]

@Maverickj I never said anything like that, all I said was that she sounds like a dude. Calm down lol

Alright take owner, you sound like a dude because this is basically the kind of mytake that about 50 dudes have posted before you, with the same aggressiveness and biased view. :P That is all.

[anon4122]

- says sexist idiotic thing
- gets called on it
-"whoa calm down. jpg.
-repeats sexist remark but longer and a tiny bit less obvious.

[Opinion Owner]

@anon4122 how am I being sexist? Is it a bad thing to sound like a guy or?

[myTake Owner]

It isn't bad to sound like a guy... what was sexist was that you assumed and claimed I was a guy simply because you felt I had to be in order to have this stand point.

[Opinion Owner]

I never said that you'd have to be a dude in order to be anti-feminist though. You're the one who's assuming that.

[myTake Owner]

Since you can't explain your reason for stating why what I said made you instantly gender me as a male, I am left with no other observation but that of which I stated.

[Opinion Owner]

I already did explain.

[myTake Owner]

Oh I didn't see that post... but it looks like you said I "sound like a dude because this is basically the kind of mytake that about 50 dudes have posted before" me, "with the same aggressiveness and biased view."

So in essence you are saying that because I am able to see actual factual things which show feminism as it truly is and choose to stand up to it, I must be a guy because other people who happen to also be men see the same facts and feel the same way... don't you think that's a bit sexist to believe that as a female I am incapable of using the same rational thought and seeing the same facts as a male without completely disregarding them because they don't fit the agenda of an ideology that claims to support me?

Being a female doesn't obligate me to follow a doctrine, especially one I believe hurts me more than it helps. The proof alone can be in the actions of those like yourself who instantly choose to attack other females simply for not complying...

[myTake Owner]

... if feminism was working to make women more free, why do they get so pushy when they meet one who is free and has her own thoughts?

[myTake Owner]

... and furthermore, why would it even matter what gender posted this take. It's factual and has sources to back it up, would you simply disregard it if a male posted it simply because it was a male? It wouldn't make the facts less factual, it wouldn't make the actions not real.

[Opinion Owner]

I wouldn't even label myself as a feminist, chill.

[genuinlysensitive]

Why because she actually wants equality? Typical feminists bullshit. Anyone who dissagress with us is really a man, and of course all men hate women. Complete fabrications.

[Kiran04]

Spotted the feminist trying to shame another woman into submission.

[Opinion Owner]

@genuinlysensitive @Kiran04 if the two of you would learn how to read you would have noticed that I already said that I don't consider myself to be a feminist...

[BarbaraP]

This is getting old

[myTake Owner]

What is getting old?
Are you ok with posts pushing feminism, but not pointing out it's actions?
Or are you against all feminist posts? If so, I would like to see the similar comments on pro feminist posts.
Otherwise, if you only hate anti-feminist post... you might want to have a reason instead of just not liking facts and actions being pointed out about a group which lies, abuses, and bullies.

[BarbaraP]

Everyday 5-10 people come up with a new post on the subject, claiming that their point of view is the legit one, but all I see is prejudgements and generalizations, by both feminists and anti-feminists. The debate on whether Feminism is right or wrong is too complex and subjective as Feminism itself is nowadays.

[myTake Owner]

I don't feel I was making prejudgements or generalizations. My judgements were based on massive amounts of viewable and obtainable information about the actual actions of the group. They were not lies or misinformation, they were not cherry picked. These were actions of massive groups like NOW and WAR... these were not a few radfems.
If the same post was made about any other group doing the same thing, there would be no question on if it was a hate group or not, people wouldn't push all the facts aside and say "well there is good too". So why does feminism get a free pass to do the same horrible things as long as they claim to be doing it for good reasons?

[BarbaraP]

Feminism is not a small group of people that act all the same way. People call themselves Feminists all the time without even knowing a single thing about all these actions, it's not like we're judging a criminal organization. You're just talking about those Feminists who act this way.

[myTake Owner]

Yes I am talking just about the feminist who act that way... and the problem I have is that "those feminist" are the ones in power, the leaders, the ones forcing bigoted laws and suppression of half the population.
Those "good" feminist you talk about... they are where? I have yet to be given any example of a feminist who hasn't pushed the false information or done something outside of these massive wrongs doings.
You can claim to be a "good communist" or a "Good Nazi" or a "Good KKK member" ... if the people running the group are doing evil, all the "good" you say you do is irrelevant in comparison to the mass of bad the group as a whole is doing.

[BarbaraP]

I didn't think Feminism was a hierarchic organization with leaders.
It still seems like you're generalizing to me and comparing Feminists to Nazis doesn't make it sound any better. Of course those actions weren't right or that a lot of Feminists take equality to another level that goes way beyond equality, but even if the "good" was irrevelant it would still deserve a mention, we can't just tell one side of the story. Should we think that every teacher is a horrible person because we hear everyday about some of them raping kids and beating the little ones?

[myTake Owner]

I never said there was a hierarchy, your excusing the obvious power in those massive groups.
The comparison to feminism and Nazism has long been done and the parallels far outweigh the differences, but that was not done by me, that was pointed out by others but the parallels are self-induced.
In regards to telling only one side of the story... it seems as though it is never a problem when the piles of bad shit is "forgot" about during the story telling and that 1 or 2 insignificant items you say deserve mention get ran up a pole as a massive win. The bad far outweighs the good yet that side is seldom told and when it is, every attempt is made to silence it. That alone is one of the many parallels to Nazism.

It's funny how you bring to light the teachers raping children since the majority of that happens by female teachers to young males, but the punishment for them is significantly minimal compared to a male who might have done it. And if feminism doesn't believe an entire...

[myTake Owner]

... group should be blamed for the actions of a few, why do they constantly claim #yesallmen or the bullshit poison m&m crap.

[genuinlysensitive]

You could say the same thing about hating men for being men.

[Kiran04]

It's also true. Truth is old. What a concept.

[Anonymous]

You're a guy.