I grow up in an environment that told me that black peoples shouldn't be trusted. And i thought that people who told me are idiot and crazy. I was freinds with many black people and they were my best friends for years i still trust them. However when i moved to another city i was having this mentality trying to see the best in people. For an year now only people who tried to assault me in streets or steal my belongings were blcak none of them other ethncity or race not to mention how black women were rude to me and any other color or ethnicity or race to the point they yell kick us out of public transportations. in this city I definitely dont trust them.
I don't entirely disagree with you. When it comes to inner city areas, it often is pretty bad with black people, yeah. And I know what you mean about black women.
Well said! Great points you make there. A lot of people disagree on some points and its fair, everyone has different opinions and different points of view about the whole racism thing and the cops. To be honest with you, let me take my hat off, because there clearly is proof that racism is still something that white people haven't got over. So many black lives taken in such a short period of time. Just like you I believe that there are many black people that wish to give their opinions and wish to be heard. I AM NOT BLACK, but i do want to say thank you for clarifying many things that poeple have in their minds all because of the "stereotypes". Again, I'm not black but if this continues then im pretty sure black people will do something for them to be heard. Black people are amazing and funny, why kill someone cause of their skin color? I hope all those cops that killed those black people go to jail for life!
Yup racism in America is real.. im about to get my license soon and the racism I so off putting.. it makes me nervous to drive alone..
I don't know I dont watch the news much and try not to stay on social media.
I hope things get better for black people or we might have to segregate ourselves off.. bc being treated like that isn't right.. and if they can't see what's wrong with treating black people like cattle.. or you shoot a black person and dont know why..
Its probabley best if black people just I don't know move to a less racially tense place. Because the treatment and always being let off and being on paid leave is so insulting and dehumanizing..
Hmm where to begin, first off your comparison on rates they are injured doesn't factor in the crime they commit or the situation.
Obviously a Black guy reaching for a gun in his pocket is more likely to be harmed by the police than the White teen found with marijuana on him.
Black males commit 50% of murders in the U. S. as 6% of the population so that supports what I just said... you are comitting more serious violent crimes and the police will deal with those circumstances (catching a murderer) a lot differently than with a pothead.
Your post is overall garbage and extremely biased which makes sense since you are a Black male.
You are using false/innacurate staitsitcs by the way and skewing them to show waht you think, when in reality its not true.
by the way twice as many Whites killed by cops yearly than Blacks, you just dont hear about it because it doesn't make the news and noone protests it.
@HonestWhiteGuy Everything you're doing is everything I said in the Take: angry white males picking and choosing what stats they're gonna listen to to make an argument. The stats I got actually came from government and official records. So argue with them about it, not me.
You gotta be kidding me, my stats are from fbi. gov and yours are from fricking huffingtonpost, a far left liberal site that probably supports everything BLM does.
Continue your crying, I guess you can't blame the president because he's Black so you had to find someone else to blame for Black males commiting 50% of murders as 6% of the population
black people who think its just skin color they are stupid and ignorant as fuck
blacks need to move up in every way possible for people to stop discriminating them
my best friends were black in middle school but by highschool i wasn't tight with any of them.
they werent reciprocating freinds and theyre quick to hate and feel like crap about their own life. i couldnt move up.
its not skin color but generational misfortune and bad decisions making... its your psyche cooping all these issues and they develope terrible habits...
parents often aren't good to them so they can do crazy shit to others without feeling too bad...
the most racist people I've met are blacks, whites are just silent and won't have anything to do with you after the fake initial niceness... and talk in secret, thats white racism.
anyway, i didn't read it... i actuallt studied this shit independently so excuse my laziness lol
I generally agree. You used some raw statistics where you should have used crime rates but no big deal. I would add that many black kids are taught from a young age not to cooperate with police. This later results in combative confrontations with law enforcement that can be deadly. A cop confronted with a deadly force will respond with deadly force.
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I agree with many of your notions, but you're twisting the way you use them to fit your argument. The same way you are looking down upon.
The rape stats you show reflect the population. White men and black men are being arrested for rape fairly equally.
The same with welfare and murder - there are more whites than blacks, so there will be more total.
The same, actually, with police killings included unarmed people. More total whites than blacks. A lot of whites and Hispanics are being killed too.
All sides in this debate are distorting the story to fit their narrative and the click bait media is fueling the fire.
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A greater proportion of black men are being killed by police. But I think you'd find that if you look beyond the basic white bitch and douchebro stereotype at the white trash hell hole areas, you'll see it's not all coming up roses there, either. But it doesn't make national news often because nobody cares about population 10,000 and under...
Also, I don't agree with the bigots who flip the other way and try to shovel the story that nothing is wrong. That's bs. My belief is that it's more complex than people want to sit and think about. Ranging from predatory lending in poor areas, digital divide, rampant drug and alcohol abuse in impoverished areas, policing as revenue, transportation issues, militarization of police, loss of manufacturing jobs and so on.
Crime appears to be tied in with the whole broken system. I in no way endorse some people's belief that black people are inherently more criminal. I've lived in the whites trash hell hole I speak of and know better. But, like the article said, black people live in denser population areas that are easier to police. I totally agree with that part. We're never going to solve the underlying problems tied into how insanely hard it is to escape poverty, despite the "American Dream" rhetoric without all Americans working together.
And I've been working at a nonprofit that serves kids of all races for 10 years, so this ain't no "new tune" coming from my lips in light of recent events.
I'm a staunch cop supporter and don't really agree with all the generalization that cops are specifically out to intentionally hurt a particular race.
Your My Take on this though was well written and I like how it's not laden with countless remarks about how bad cops are and it also made me think about what it may be like to be on the other side as a minority vs a Caucasian.
Well, sometimes I get heated with opinions that are straight up cop hate but your take just happened to inspire me think about what it would be like to be not white.
I am still a heavy, 100% cop supporter however I just enjoyed your take as it's different. Thanks...
I wish the stats you listed were in context, just don't feel like sifting through it all, so for all we know they are being used to mislead people. For example, more white people are on food stamps but if there are 20 times as many white people then that should be expected, so it doesn't mean much to simply show that more white people collect food stamps. We need a lot more clarity for all your stats before any conclusions about them can be made.
Yes I agree 100% that there is a racist problem when it comes to police vs. black men. There is also a serious Sexist problem with law enforcement as well that is MUCH!! bigger of a divide than the Race difference. Police in general are far to violent in my opinion, they should be focusing on peace keeping not law enforcement. We need a rehabilitation system not a vengeance system.
Black Lives matter has some serious problems with it, it may well end up making things worse while it tries to make things better.
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Has anyone felt this way before? To be a person that always has so much to say, that is very opinionated, that doesn't bite their tongue, and for once can't form any words to say.
Why I'm sure you're wondering because of the pent back emotion that is released each and every time I sit here live my life, watch the news, get on this site and read a question and a comment and about this goddamn bullshit! It takes a lot for me to not want to comment, not want to leave an opinion, to not even want to log on to this site, or wake up to a world where this is all I have to hear, see, and live.
There's so many things I want to say about BlackLivesMatter as WellAsAllLivesMatter but I just can't bring myself to do it. So instead this is what I have to say Why?
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Sorry but John Stewart is a liberal privileged Jew and chooses to be part of the white majority or Jewish minority for political aims fortunately now that the left is turning on Israel after helping set it up and through years of support no matter what tge leftist turn their back on the Jews in support of Muslim terrorists, now the only the left wing Jews out there are dinosaurs like Jon Stewart as young Jews move in support of the Conservative right to protect what the entitlements earned through the hard work of Jews in America and in Israel. I care as much about young black men getting killed in Police custody as you do about Police officers as like you said its karma for a life of crime and poverty in the black community is quite simply reaping what you sow.
Watch any episode of COPS and you will see that black people simply CANNOT follow basic instructions. They fucking CAN'T do it! They CAN NOT. CAN. NOT. Fucking follow directions.
This was well written. Thank you so much for clearing a lot of things up. As I said before, whites do get discriminated against also, but it still isn't to the extent of minorities in this country.
im white and its so shocking racism is still going on, im no racist. and if i hear anyone who is and does anything of that nature, i tell them off, i dont tolerate that racist shit.
Not all police, just my opinion. You can't bash ALL police just cuz a majority fucked up. But that is just your personal opinon that you are allowed to feel. its like not all black people, white people, brown people are all the same. I could be a an asshole and black, while you are sweet an black.
Another BLM bait. Too many flaws. Just one thing to say here: regarding SNAP, Caucasian Americans account for 63% of the whole population while African Americans constitute 13%, yet 40% and 26% of Caucasian Americans and African Americans, respectively, receive SNAP. Also, your point on how people are likely (or unlikely) to be killed by police based on their race concerns no element of resisting law enforcements. Also why Latino Americans have a much lower rate of being killed by police? Also do not forget Asian Americans (their low crime rate and low rate of being killed by the police)? Nah, just another "we are not perfect but it is your fault article".
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One of the best takes here i have seen, very articulately and well written, nice to see someone who actually delivers facts and presents it so well.. you made some very valid points here, i agree with you.
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Your statistics are skewed because there's more white people than black. If you go by percentage proportional to the population, it is probably a higher proportion of black. That being said, I think that has more to do with poverty and living conditions that any inherent character traits.
You said "black people aren't perfect," but neither is anyone else.
But I do know that most of the prostitutes I've ever visited won't see African American men because they've had guns pointed at them and been locked in rooms, etc.
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I grow up in an environment that told me that black peoples shouldn't be trusted. And i thought that people who told me are idiot and crazy. I was freinds with many black people and they were my best friends for years i still trust them. However when i moved to another city i was having this mentality trying to see the best in people. For an year now only people who tried to assault me in streets or steal my belongings were blcak none of them other ethncity or race not to mention how black women were rude to me and any other color or ethnicity or race to the point they yell kick us out of public transportations. in this city I definitely dont trust them.
I don't entirely disagree with you. When it comes to inner city areas, it often is pretty bad with black people, yeah. And I know what you mean about black women.
Well said! Great points you make there. A lot of people disagree on some points and its fair, everyone has different opinions and different points of view about the whole racism thing and the cops. To be honest with you, let me take my hat off, because there clearly is proof that racism is still something that white people haven't got over. So many black lives taken in such a short period of time. Just like you I believe that there are many black people that wish to give their opinions and wish to be heard. I AM NOT BLACK, but i do want to say thank you for clarifying many things that poeple have in their minds all because of the "stereotypes". Again, I'm not black but if this continues then im pretty sure black people will do something for them to be heard. Black people are amazing and funny, why kill someone cause of their skin color? I hope all those cops that killed those black people go to jail for life!
Who was killed because of his skin color?
@chico800 black people! haven't you seen the news lately?
Yup racism in America is real.. im about to get my license soon and the racism I so off putting.. it makes me nervous to drive alone..
I don't know I dont watch the news much and try not to stay on social media.
I hope things get better for black people or we might have to segregate ourselves off.. bc being treated like that isn't right.. and if they can't see what's wrong with treating black people like cattle.. or you shoot a black person and dont know why..
Its probabley best if black people just I don't know move to a less racially tense place. Because the treatment and always being let off and being on paid leave is so insulting and dehumanizing..
Hmm where to begin, first off your comparison on rates they are injured doesn't factor in the crime they commit or the situation.
Obviously a Black guy reaching for a gun in his pocket is more likely to be harmed by the police than the White teen found with marijuana on him.
Black males commit 50% of murders in the U. S. as 6% of the population so that supports what I just said... you are comitting more serious violent crimes and the police will deal with those circumstances (catching a murderer) a lot differently than with a pothead.
Your post is overall garbage and extremely biased which makes sense since you are a Black male.
You are using false/innacurate staitsitcs by the way and skewing them to show waht you think, when in reality its not true.
by the way twice as many Whites killed by cops yearly than Blacks, you just dont hear about it because it doesn't make the news and noone protests it.
All you're doing is proving my point.
Everything I listed are verified government statistics and absolutely accurate. Not skewed or taken from random sites like yours.
Also I didn't prove your point, I proved you wrong. There's a difference.
@HonestWhiteGuy Everything you're doing is everything I said in the Take: angry white males picking and choosing what stats they're gonna listen to to make an argument. The stats I got actually came from government and official records. So argue with them about it, not me.
You gotta be kidding me, my stats are from fbi. gov and yours are from fricking huffingtonpost, a far left liberal site that probably supports everything BLM does.
Continue your crying, I guess you can't blame the president because he's Black so you had to find someone else to blame for Black males commiting 50% of murders as 6% of the population
The stat I provided on homicide rates is from the FBI. Look again if you didn't notice.
black people who think its just skin color they are stupid and ignorant as fuck
blacks need to move up in every way possible for people to stop discriminating them
my best friends were black in middle school but by highschool i wasn't tight with any of them.
they werent reciprocating freinds and theyre quick to hate and feel like crap about their own life. i couldnt move up.
its not skin color but generational misfortune and bad decisions making... its your psyche cooping all these issues and they develope terrible habits...
parents often aren't good to them so they can do crazy shit to others without feeling too bad...
the most racist people I've met are blacks, whites are just silent and won't have anything to do with you after the fake initial niceness... and talk in secret, thats white racism.
anyway, i didn't read it... i actuallt studied this shit independently so excuse my laziness lol
I generally agree. You used some raw statistics where you should have used crime rates but no big deal.
I would add that many black kids are taught from a young age not to cooperate with police. This later results in combative confrontations with law enforcement that can be deadly.
A cop confronted with a deadly force will respond with deadly force.
I agree with many of your notions, but you're twisting the way you use them to fit your argument. The same way you are looking down upon.
The rape stats you show reflect the population. White men and black men are being arrested for rape fairly equally.
The same with welfare and murder - there are more whites than blacks, so there will be more total.
The same, actually, with police killings included unarmed people. More total whites than blacks. A lot of whites and Hispanics are being killed too.
All sides in this debate are distorting the story to fit their narrative and the click bait media is fueling the fire.
A greater proportion of black men are being killed by police. But I think you'd find that if you look beyond the basic white bitch and douchebro stereotype at the white trash hell hole areas, you'll see it's not all coming up roses there, either. But it doesn't make national news often because nobody cares about population 10,000 and under...
Also, I don't agree with the bigots who flip the other way and try to shovel the story that nothing is wrong. That's bs. My belief is that it's more complex than people want to sit and think about. Ranging from predatory lending in poor areas, digital divide, rampant drug and alcohol abuse in impoverished areas, policing as revenue, transportation issues, militarization of police, loss of manufacturing jobs and so on.
They are also committing more crime than Whites so police will target them more, logically. You forgot to add that...
Crime appears to be tied in with the whole broken system. I in no way endorse some people's belief that black people are inherently more criminal. I've lived in the whites trash hell hole I speak of and know better. But, like the article said, black people live in denser population areas that are easier to police. I totally agree with that part. We're never going to solve the underlying problems tied into how insanely hard it is to escape poverty, despite the "American Dream" rhetoric without all Americans working together.
And I've been working at a nonprofit that serves kids of all races for 10 years, so this ain't no "new tune" coming from my lips in light of recent events.
Although I don't agree with you on all points, I DO agree with you on some. And might I add that this was very well written!
Thank you. What parts didn't you agree with?
I'm a staunch cop supporter and don't really agree with all the generalization that cops are specifically out to intentionally hurt a particular race.
Your My Take on this though was well written and I like how it's not laden with countless remarks about how bad cops are and it also made me think about what it may be like to be on the other side as a minority vs a Caucasian.
Not all cops are out to hurt black people, but it is a general subconscious attitude in cops to target them, yes.
It's good to know it made you think, unlike the angry white males below who are exactly proving my point.
Well, sometimes I get heated with opinions that are straight up cop hate but your take just happened to inspire me think about what it would be like to be not white.
I am still a heavy, 100% cop supporter however I just enjoyed your take as it's different. Thanks...
Police in this country are wayyyyyy out of control.
Of course with get triggered over cop hate because cops protect you and not black people
I wish the stats you listed were in context, just don't feel like sifting through it all, so for all we know they are being used to mislead people. For example, more white people are on food stamps but if there are 20 times as many white people then that should be expected, so it doesn't mean much to simply show that more white people collect food stamps. We need a lot more clarity for all your stats before any conclusions about them can be made.
Yes I agree 100% that there is a racist problem when it comes to police vs. black men. There is also a serious Sexist problem with law enforcement as well that is MUCH!! bigger of a divide than the Race difference. Police in general are far to violent in my opinion, they should be focusing on peace keeping not law enforcement. We need a rehabilitation system not a vengeance system.
Black Lives matter has some serious problems with it, it may well end up making things worse while it tries to make things better.
Has anyone felt this way before? To be a person that always has so much to say, that is very opinionated, that doesn't bite their tongue, and for once can't form any words to say.
Why I'm sure you're wondering because of the pent back emotion that is released each and every time I sit here live my life, watch the news, get on this site and read a question and a comment and about this goddamn bullshit! It takes a lot for me to not want to comment, not want to leave an opinion, to not even want to log on to this site, or wake up to a world where this is all I have to hear, see, and live.
There's so many things I want to say about BlackLivesMatter as WellAsAllLivesMatter but I just can't bring myself to do it. So instead this is what I have to say Why?
Sorry but John Stewart is a liberal privileged Jew and chooses to be part of the white majority or Jewish minority for political aims fortunately now that the left is turning on Israel after helping set it up and through years of support no matter what tge leftist turn their back on the Jews in support of Muslim terrorists, now the only the left wing Jews out there are dinosaurs like Jon Stewart as young Jews move in support of the Conservative right to protect what the entitlements earned through the hard work of Jews in America and in Israel.
I care as much about young black men getting killed in Police custody as you do about Police officers as like you said its karma for a life of crime and poverty in the black community is quite simply reaping what you sow.
This is not racist, this is reality:
Watch any episode of COPS and you will see that black people simply CANNOT follow basic instructions. They fucking CAN'T do it! They CAN NOT. CAN. NOT. Fucking follow directions.
And that's why they get shot.
This was well written. Thank you so much for clearing a lot of things up.
As I said before, whites do get discriminated against also, but it still isn't to the extent of minorities in this country.
he's completely wrong though
How do whites get discriminated?
im white and its so shocking racism is still going on, im no racist. and if i hear anyone who is and does anything of that nature, i tell them off, i dont tolerate that racist shit.
Not all police, just my opinion. You can't bash ALL police just cuz a majority fucked up. But that is just your personal opinon that you are allowed to feel. its like not all black people, white people, brown people are all the same. I could be a an asshole and black, while you are sweet an black.
Did you read the whole Take?
Im agreeing with you?
Another BLM bait. Too many flaws.
Just one thing to say here: regarding SNAP, Caucasian Americans account for 63% of the whole population while African Americans constitute 13%, yet 40% and 26% of Caucasian Americans and African Americans, respectively, receive SNAP.
Also, your point on how people are likely (or unlikely) to be killed by police based on their race concerns no element of resisting law enforcements. Also why Latino Americans have a much lower rate of being killed by police? Also do not forget Asian Americans (their low crime rate and low rate of being killed by the police)?
Nah, just another "we are not perfect but it is your fault article".
One of the best takes here i have seen, very articulately and well written, nice to see someone who actually delivers facts and presents it so well.. you made some very valid points here, i agree with you.
Your statistics are skewed because there's more white people than black. If you go by percentage proportional to the population, it is probably a higher proportion of black. That being said, I think that has more to do with poverty and living conditions that any inherent character traits.
You said "black people aren't perfect," but neither is anyone else.
But I do know that most of the prostitutes I've ever visited won't see African American men because they've had guns pointed at them and been locked in rooms, etc.
Good mytake, I totally agree with you. Africans are gangsters but they are still human and have rights equivalent to white people.
A lost of good information, as lot of good facts, and a lot of good thoughts.