A Message To All Women Supporting Hillary Clinton

[Anonymous]

A Message To All Women Supporting Hillary Clinton:

It must take some complex mental gymnastics to believe that the woman with a sexual predator husband is somehow actually on the side of women. He has been accused of sexual crimes by 17 different women. Everything from groping to rape. Second only to Bill Cosby. I guess you only "listen and believe" to the victims when you want to.

It must take enormous amounts of self-delusion and a total lack of a moral conscience to believe that the woman who receives a large portion of of her funding from Saudi Arabia (who also funded 9/11) is actually on the side of women. All the rape, "honor" killing, vitriolage (acid throwing) and stoning that goes on in that country means nothing to you. It must take a massive amount of cruelty and arrogance to say that while the political ambitions of a woman in your country matter to you, the very lives of women in another country don't matter at all. Just so long as that country supports your candidate.

It must take a truly heartless and vicious person to support a woman who willingly defended a man accused or raping a 12 year old girl. She even attacked the girl on the witness stand and saying she caused the rape because she "fantasized about sex with older men."

Every woman who supports Clinton is also purchasing a one way ticket to hell with their vote. I guess you could say it's a two for one special.

Make the right choice on November 8th.

[udolipixie]

I find this post amusing.

"I guess you only "listen and believe" to the victims when you want to."
I imagine you do as well. I find when it comes to antifeminists and similar ilk they're all for saying most sexual assault/rape accusations are false, victim-blaming/shaming and disbelief unless the person being accused is someone they dislike. Trump's been accused of rape- don't believe the victim it's feminazi whiteknight bs most rape accusations are false accusations. Bill's been accused of rape- believe the victim and shame on you for not doing so.

"It must take a truly heartless and vicious person to support a woman who willingly defended a man accused or raping a 12 year old girl. "
Uh huh because it's not like it was her job and allowing personal tastes to affect her judicial 'duty' would be off. But sure go off on her but not the plentiful of people whose job isn't to defend dudes accused of rape. So much outrage for her doing her job yet I rarely see outrage when people defend a dude for raping an unconscious gal... because y'know she was asking for it and it's not really rape if it was at a party or they dated X years ago or she was dressed slutty.

I really do enjoy this lambasting her on an act for her past coming from a seemingly mindset that would possibly whine about dudes being on the sexual offenders registry and preaching forgiveness/moving on for a rapist and not to make him 'suffer'/judge him forever on something in the past he 'paid' for... as if he willingly chose to take the punishment and wasn't caught and punished.

[udolipixie]

To any potential commenters: "I'm not a Hillary supporter" in my opinion there is no worthwhile presidential candidate.

I just find it amusing that this post as lambasting Hillary on the seeming notion she's not for women... as if Trump is some feminist icon. LMFAO

[madhatters4]

just to counter point. what exactly has trump done that is so uplifting to women?

- serial adulterer who plead the 5th 97 times during courtroom testimony regarding whether or not he's cheated. i mean is it worse to be the wife of an adulterer or to be the adulterer
- refers to women as pigs
- says a woman who is flat chested is essentially worthless
- believes any woman who challenges him must be on her period

sure hillary has her issues but if we bring those up it's only necessary to bring up trump's issues

[EnglishArtsteacher]

He was accused of raping a 13 year old girl as well. Of course, we don't know if it's true-But it makes you wonder, doesn't it?

[PT1911]

Just because someone is ant-hillary does not mean they are pro trump

[Pearl85]

Precisely

[lumos]

To add to this list:
- Called Venezuelan miss Universe "miss Piggy" and "miss Housekeeping" (which is not only sexist but also racist)
- Has called women fat, slobs, dogs, disgusting animals
- Has belittled ex wife Ivana
- He thinks the only thing that's important is having "a young and beautiful piece of ass" by his side.
- Has stated that women are gold diggers.
- Would date his own daughter if she wasn't his daughter. Gross.
- He had an idea for a show called "Lady or a Tramp?" with the mission of sending "tramps" to some kind of school where they'd "learn some manners". Can y'all believe it never aired?
- Beauty queen Carrie Prejean wrote about the ‘Trump rule’ in her book, referring to the Miss USA pageant, of which Trump is co-owner. She claimed that he had the girls parade in front of him, so he could separate those he found attractive from those he didn’t. Humiliating.
- Consistently objectifies women in many different ways.
- Has called breastfeeding "disgusting".
& many more.

[john52461]

@lumos all those things are bad, and yes the guy is a jerk, but it's not illegal to be a jerk. He didn't break any laws like Hillary and isn't corrupt

[lumos]

@john52461 he's evading paying taxes which is pretty fucking illegal. And he thinks it makes him "smart". And harassing people the way he has is also illegal.

[john52461]

@lumos lol how much do you know about taxes at 21yrs old? He paid the legal amount he was required otherwise the IRS would come after him. He didn't do anything illegal, everyone tries to pay less tax, that's the entire point of hiring people to do your taxes. There is only one amount you have to pay and it's your legal share. There is no other "fair share". I hope you understand.

[madhatters4]

@john52461 the IRS is after him. he's under federal audit... but that aside. at a time when we are hearing candidates talking about improving our economy. chastising business for taking their businesses overseas to avoid taxes, how can we ignore or laud someone who hasn't paid federal taxes in decades? a person who uses the very tax shelters that in his campaign he condemns, to avoid paying what he owes.

it's strange to me that many trump supporters cry about a corrupt political system. about a dishonest hillary clinton and yet seem to find some way to excuse the myriad of corrupt actions and almost pathological lies Trump spouts.

[john52461]

The IRS audits people all the time, my dad has been audited before. Most of it is done electronically so some things flag your return and then they conduct an audit. The audit alone does not mean you did anything wrong. LMAO you made it sound like "omg he's under audit"

[madhatters4]

@john52461 you said if he had done something wrong the IRS would be after him. well an audit by the IRS would indicate that there is something they are chasing down. whether it comes to anything remains to be seen but to say "He paid the legal amount he was required otherwise the IRS would come after him. "

well the IRS is after him. maybe it comes to nothing but clearly there is something they are digging into.

[john52461]

Not true some people get audited by the IRS for no reason, if the numbers don't look right your return will get flagged by the computer, it doesn't mean you did anything wrong at all

[madhatters4]

@john52461 well even if you don't get in trouble you don't get audited for "no reason". it could be a clerical error, it could be a filing error. but there is a reason. and if you want to convince yourself that there is "no reason" trump is being audited then that's your right.

[john52461]

he says they audit him every year, I guess his accountants make a lot of clerical errors, who knows, they haven't disclosed why he's being audited and what triggered it

[madhatters4]

@john52461 but no doubt if clinton was under audit or had been fined by the DOJ, FTC and other government groups for unfair and corrupt business dealings or even was under investigation for things Trump supporters would be slamming her to high hell.

it's the strange paradox of this campaign. supporters for trump curse clinton for her shady dealings but either ignore or somehow applaud trump for his

[pnl86]

The 2016 presidency was promised to Hilary from the Democratic leadership back when Bill Clinton was facing heat from the sex scandals. What would crush the Democratic leadership at the time (and cause them to lease seats and control in Congress, and swing power over to the Republicans) was for Hilary to leave Bill Clinton. The Democratic party "needed" her to stand my Bill Clinton, and she wasn't just going to do it for "free."

So, she had a very big stick she was wielding, and she wanted a very big carrot in order to voluntarily put it down. That's what the Democratic leadership did, that's the deal they struck. The 2016 presidency is already determined... everything else is just for show and formality.

Free choice. Give me a break. The biggest irony in the Democrat school of thought is that they "think" about Republicans and immediately imagine some red neck religious undereducated white racist sexist male that's so corrupted by the propaganda of Fox News... and immediately feel better about themselves from being immune to such thought control and propaganda from the media... and being able to exercise their free will and free choice.

Yes, as if all other sources within their limited sphere of influence are immune to disseminating propaganda. Building up a straw man of what Democrats would "not" like to identify themselves as, and then standing as the "opposite" of the (i. e., negative reinforcement) is the main psychological play Democratic propaganda relies on.

The truth is, both Republicans and Democrats are idiots. They are like monkeys. "My mom and dad believe X, so I believe X" (Republican). "People who believe Y are idiots, so I believe X, which is basically not Y" (Democrat).

This is perhaps the only election in history where an "Independent" candidate actually stands a reasonable chance of winning if the "somewhat likely" battleground states swing their votes in favor. Rather than seize the opportunity, people a exercising their "free thought" in jumping on the "first Black and Female President, progressive, change, yay!" train.

It's not about Trump v. Hilary. It's about a two-party system versus actual meaningful choices in politics. That's real change. Everything else is just the same old movie with different actors.

[EnglishArtsteacher]

You're entitled to your opinion, which is fine.

But you're making it sound like someone is evil for supporting a candidate for president.

"It must take a truly heartless and vicious person to support a woman who willingly defended a man accused or raping a 12 year old girl. She even attacked the girl on the witness stand and saying she caused the rape because she "fantasized about sex with older men."-Well, she was a lawyer, and that was her job. Are you saying we should have a guilty before innocent justice system?

With that being said, saying someone is "truly heartless, and vicious" for supporting a candidate is closed-minded (I'm assuming you're a Millennial, since we seem to be a narrow-minded generation). I'm probably the most anti-Donald Trump person on this website, but I don't think people are "vicious", "evil", or "heartless" for supporting Trump.

If you ask me, someone who supports a candidate with the intention of that candidate being a "morally good" apparently doesn't know much about politics in the first place, and probably shouldn't be voting. Elections should be about the issues, not the "morals" of a candidate. There isn't a single candidate these days who has "morals."

[Fightingspirit]

What her post shows us is that maybe one should invest more into the education system.

[EnglishArtsteacher]

@Fightingspirit I don't necessarily agree with that. It's well written actually.

What her post shows us, is that maybe one should research key political issues before supporting a candidate, instead of writing an emotional response on a candidate with no factual data, or evidence.

[Fightingspirit]

That should be part education or do we have different ideas of what education is?

[Fightingspirit]

part of **

[EnglishArtsteacher]

@Fightingspirit I just meant the way she wrote it reminds me of someone with a college degree.

I guess this doesn't mean she's "educated" in the sense of knowledge. But she very well may be formally educated.

[Fightingspirit]

dictionary. com
education, noun
"the act or process of imparting or acquiring general knowledge, developing the powers of reasoning and judgment, and generally of preparing oneself or others intellectually for mature life. "

[Fightingspirit]

The dilemma of having a qualitfication and receiving the status of "being educated". I believe having a qualification doesn't necessarily qualify as being 'well' educated. One could argue that the whole world is educated.

[Fightingspirit]

I think we are on the same page ;)

[EnglishArtsteacher]

@Fightingspirit I completely agree! I've met people with their PhD's, and they are uneducated on the issues, while I've met people who have a GED (OR less) and are very well aware of the world.

[echoaj]

Are you going to do a MyTAke on a message to women supporting Trump too?
You do realize Trump has repeatedly called women slops, ugly, bimbos, etc
Trump said these things
1 Giving your wife “negotiable assets” is a terrible mistake.
2 “You know, it doesn’t really matter what [the media] write as long as you’ve got a young and beautiful piece of ass.” — from an interview with Esquire, 1991
3 Also said no one would vote for Calri Fiorina because of her face.
4 "Rosie is a very unattractive person, both inside and out."
5 Megan kelly controversy
6 he once commented on a reporter that the only reason she has her job is because of body.
7 Now you have Alicia Machado who has come out and said that Trump called her "Miss Piggy" and "Miss Housekeeping." Then Trumps tries to divert the issue by the irrelevant claiming that she is in a sex tape even though there is no good evidence supporting that.

Also his former wife filed rape allegations in court documents against Trump.
So any woman that supports Trump is beyond me.

[uknaked]

You really are a lying, stupid, idiotic, misogynistic fool. Hillary Clinton is a superb candidate for POTUS. She loves her husband and has forgiven him his indiscretions, that shows strength of character.
She has never personally received any funds from a foreign country, and Saudi Arabia are as big an enemy of Isis and middle eastern terrorism as the US of A.
You have obviously been listening to republican propaganda that is all lies.
Do you seriously want to vote for a megalomaniac, misogynist, lying cretin, like chump trump as POTUS and commander in chief of US forces?
You must be mad, or very sadly misinformed about reality.

[Fathoms77]

This woman is flat-out evil. Even my mother and all her friends are petrified of the thought of her in the White House.

[AleDeEurope]

Prepare to get accused of being a guy xD

But you're right. Hillary gives zero shit about women, she's just using them to get their vote. The fact so many are falling for that makes you lose some hope :/

[pnl86]

"I'm a woman, vote for me!" (Sponsored by FriendsofHilary. org and The Boys Are Stupid Throw Rocks At Them Foundation).

[FatherJack]

@pnl86 You spelt it's name wrong... it's KILLary !!

[Saoirse_Nua]

There is only one presidential candidate involved in an allegation of Marital rape
assets.nydailynews.com/.../hunt30n-8-web.jpg
And also have an allegation of Statutory Rape against him
www.newstalk.com/Donald-Trump-accused-of-statutory-rape-assault-and-battery-against-13yearold-girl
Plus he is a Misogynist, Racist Bigot
www.newyorker.com/.../...y-879x1200-1475161935.jpg

[Saoirse_Nua]

Wrong link for the rape of his wife
www.independent.co.uk/.../...mentary-a6836151.html

[BruceJender]

I will ask you again:

WHAT HAS HE SAID THAT IS RACIST?

[BruceJender]

And isn't it just telling that instead of properly refuting the OP's MyTake you've taken to pointing out allegations against Trump?

[Saoirse_Nua]

@BruceJender
www.google.ie/search

[BruceJender]

And he posts a bunch of un-sourced quotes...

"I have a great relationship with blacks" --- Racist?

There is no substance behind the accusations of racism. It's either a bunch of hearsay or allegations.

Try harder.

[john52461]

Quote from your link:
"During their divorce in 1991, Donald Trump's ex-wife Ivana accused him of "raping" her three years previously. But she has since clarified it was not in "a literal or criminal sense".

[john52461]

1. Big companies make donations to the Clinton Foundation, days later they get a contract. (companies like Lockheed Martin, Boeing)
2. Hillary is incompetent and can't tell if that a (c) means classified on emails. She thought the (c) was for it be in alphabetical order!
3. She abused her power as Secretary to set up meetings for people who donated to the Clinton Foundation or paid her husband for speeches.
4. Hillary tried to silence women who were sexually harrassed/raped by her husband former President Bill Clinton.
5. She called blacks men super predators (yes this is true look it up)
6. On a radio show she was asked what thing she can't leave home without. She said "hotsauce". No joke check out "breakfast club hot 97". You think she really carries hot sauce in her purse? LMAO
7. She is a good wife and tries to cover up her husbands crimes against women.

[Kylesar]

I agree with your point up to this point

"It must take a truly heartless and vicious person to support a woman who willingly defended a man accused or raping a 12 year old girl. She even attacked the girl on the witness stand and saying she caused the rape because she "fantasized about sex with older men."

Look, I hate both candidates, to the point where I'm not even registering to vote, but this isn't a good point. This was her job to do. It doesn't matter if she believed or knew that he did it. She was hired to keep him out of prison. Now the issue should be how she treated her defending the perp AFTER the case, the sheer lack of empathy for the victim.

Hilary's done lots of bullshit, but this isn't one of them.

[uknaked]

www.politifact.com/.../

[Kylesar]

@uknaked What's your point?

[Waffles731]

You do realize that unlike the allegations against bill clinton,
There is actually plenty of evidence for Donald Trump raping his ex-wife.

[john52461]

Umm, you know he admitted to having sex with Gennifer flowers right? You're 21 you being born as this stuff was going on so you have no idea what you're talking about. Also Monica Lewinski, he also allegedly slept with a black prostitute and has a son with her. Trumps ex WIFE by the way denied those allegations (what idiot rapes their wife, do you know how absurd that sounds)

[vishna]

@john52461 People unfortunately rape their partners. That's not some thing he just made up or that was made up to make trump look bad...
mainweb-v.musc.edu/.../wiferape.shtml this link is a reference to statistical data of wife rape...

[somebodysaycheese]

Im not voting for her. When she was a lawyer and defended some rich college kid who was accused of raping a 9 yrold she said the girl was "asking for it". When I heard that its when she started leaving a sour taste in my mouth

[goaded]

This: [Clinton] willingly defended a man accused or raping a 12 year old girl. She even attacked the girl on the witness stand and saying she caused the rape because she "fantasized about sex with older men."

Is untrue. She was an unwilling defence attorney, and the case never went to trial, so the girl never took the witness stand.

www.snopes.com/.../

[uknaked]

www.politifact.com/.../

[BlondeBlueEyes84]

If you're a White female supporting the anti-White male Hillary Clinton, you support White men going with East Asian women and rejecting White women. Which happens on a grand scale nowadays.
Hillary Clinton HATES White men. Support her, as a White woman, and you essentially support your own downfall. You support yourself settling down with ugly non-White men, because White men never hit on you and ask you out. You support to make that even more of a thing, if that's possible at this point.

[uknaked]

www.politifact.com/.../

[FallOutBoy2001]

ma'am, the only reason I would vote for her is because Obamacare means my little brother can get healthcare when he's out on his own

[john52461]

obama care is such a disaster companies are pulling out and many raising their rates, it's a failure sadly

[FallOutBoy2001]

@john52461 it's actually not a total failure

[john52461]

yeah which is actually pretty good for a politician

[uknaked]

@john52461 The affordable care act would work much better if republicans in congress did not do their best to ruin it. Vote Democrat and see it work properly!

[john52461]

@uknaked yes if only democrats were more unified insurance companies wouldn't pull out of obamacare and raise rates...

[uknaked]

@john52461 You just don't get it do you? The reason that Obamacare is not as good as it should be is because the Republicans, many of whom are connected to health insurance provider companies, have tried to block as much of it as they can.
They don't care about peoples health, their only interest is in making more millions of dollars from fleecing people. Do some research!

[john52461]

@uknaked Ok so let's say they had no opposition. Do you think our system could even be ask good as NHS in the UK? I think it's you that needs to do some research. See how well it worked out in the UK then get back to me.

[uknaked]

@john52461 As a UK citizen who s family have used the NHS since 1948 I can honestly say it is superb, if you get a democratic president and congress it will improve dramatically.

[john52461]

@uknaked As a US citizen I've heard otherwise. What's the wait time these days? Does anyone in the UK buy private insurance or is that not needed because of the superb system?

[uknaked]

@john52461 The wait time varies with the circumstances, but emergencies are dealt with immediately.
When I had a heart attack the ambulance arrived in 8 minutes, four minutes after the paramedic had started immediate treatment, then I was stabilised in the ambulance before being admitted to hospital 20 minutes later, where I was treated as soon as I arrived.
Last year my son had a very dangerous cardiac artery rupture, and if it were not for the superb treatment he received immediately he would certainly have died, he also required a plastic heart valve. He is now still with his wife and three children, and has gone back to teaching running. There is absolutely nothing wrong with our system. There are a few private services and hospitals, but most people are happy with the NHS.

[RachelBrigs]

I can't stand Clinton but Trump is worse. Because I plan to be proactive in my country I will be voting for Clinton.

[EnglishArtsteacher]

I just find it silly to not support a candidate based on that candidate's "moral character." Since when did politicians have morals?

[RachelBrigs]

@EnglishArtsteacher what? Most choices are guided by your moral compass. Clinton lying about Benghazi is a result of a poor moral choice for example. Morality is the basis of everything. No one can lead a country to greatness without a good character.

[RachelBrigs]

And a person who does not value morality in others typically isn't a very moral person themselves and I don't take those people seriously. :/

[EnglishArtsteacher]

So basically, there is no point in voting ever again, right? You do realize that every single president we've had (probably in the past 100 years or so) has been entirely immoral? All the way from Richard Nixon's scandal, to Ronald Reagan's elitism, to the Clinton's scandals, to Obama's lies, to Bush's lies, and excuses to go to war.

I'm against Donald Trump, but not due to his morals. I'm against him because he's incompetent, and has no experience.

And you can be a good leader who is corrupt. Bill Clinton was very corrupt, and had our economy in a SURPLUS. Sorry, but even though I'm voting for Hillary Clinton as well, you're quite naive if you REALLY think there are moral politicians.

It's like this: I have a great athlete, and an average athlete. The great athlete is a dishonest scumbag, and the average athlete is an honest man/woman with good intentions. Who am I going to want on my team? The good athlete. Why? Because I know he/she will help me out in the long run.

[RachelBrigs]

@EnglishArtsteacher I recognize that the majority of politicians aren't upstanding moral characters.
But some are vastly better than others. Politicians are humans and most humans do battle right vs wrong to some degree. Since you and most people don't care that much about a candidates morality WE elect shitty people over and over and we pass up the most moral option.

[EnglishArtsteacher]

But why does it matter if the people are "shitty"? As long as they do the job well, that's all that matters.

It's like this: I'm a teacher. If I were married, and cheated on my wife, that's my business. My employer has nothing to do with it. I may very well get a promotion to Assistant Principal due to my work ethic, and skills. I may very well be THE best teacher-But also an immoral scumbag.

Morality doesn't equate knowledge, skill, or awareness-Which are key components to a good world leader.

[starliteyes]

Clinton is a garbage candidate but you didn't present that very well xD

[uknaked]

www.politifact.com/.../

[KnightinDarkArmor]

What is the right choice?

We have Jill stein a woman with NO governing exp
We have Gary Johnson who doesn't know anything about the world around him.
We have Trump, a ignorant ill tempered buffoon.

Even if everything you say is true (and it isn't) Hillary seems like the best choice

[SvetlanaSavachenko]

There's no way I'd vote for that communist shrew hag!!!

[uknaked]

www.politifact.com/.../

[PrincessofNohr]

It takes a truly heartless and vicious person to support a man has been called a woman pigs and sluts, had cheated on multiple women, and has been accused of raping of a 13 year old girl.

[John_Doesnt]

Yeah, make the right choice by voting for a guy who thinks a woman is useless if she gets fat. Vote for a guy who got divorced twice and married a woman half his age
He sure as hell cares about women.