4 Reasons Why Americans Should Just Deal With The New President

[Anonymous]

1. History Repeats Itself

When I was a child, George W. Bush ascended the presidency. I probably didn't pay much attention to the news at the time, but I eventually learned about the election of George W. Bush to the Oval Office versus his opponent, Al Gore, in my history textbook. When he came to the presidency, some people demanded a re-vote, probably because they didn't want to see Bush as president and suspected there was some kind of cheating going on.

In this most recent election between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, people are now protesting against Donald Trump's win with picket signs that say "Not my president". Apparently, people are getting stupider too. Having a sign that says "re-vote" actually makes sense. "Not my president" does not, because regardless of what you think of him, he is the new President of the United States.

2. It's Only Four Years

Donald Trump will just be president for 4 years. That is the limit for one term. If he gets re-elected, then 8 years. But it is possible that a president may not be re-elected. That has definitely happened before in history; it may even happen again. Until then, Americans from all sides should support whatever president they have. Even Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton want a peaceful union between Democrats and Republicans. Please, Democrats! Just chill! You already have 8 years with a Democratic president. It's about time that a Republican should ascend the presidency. What makes you think the Democratic party should get all the political power?

3. People Should Be More Self-Reliant

According to the press and mass media, Donald Trump is likely going to repeal Obamacare. I admit that while I was in college, I enjoyed Obamacare, because I could get under my parents' health insurance plan. Though, I was never gravely sick and had no serious, emergency issues.

I believe that everyone should make an effort to be healthy physically. Obviously, healthy people don't have any chronic medical issues and may just need health insurance for emergencies/accidents. While good physical health is kind of difficult to attain for people who live in food deserts and earn below the poverty line, I believe this is where the nation's churches and state and city authorities should step in and help create more urban gardens to help poor people get the fruits and vegetables they need, because the federal government is kind of unreliable. That said, people should remember that with a weaker federal government, the individual states may become stronger and make their own laws regarding healthcare and social service programs.

4. People Focus Way Too Much On The Petty Things

I believe people are focusing way too much on the petty things, like sexual minority rights and abortion rights. In the grand scheme of things, those are actually minor issues. I doubt that Donald Trump will persecute sexual minorities directly. At best, he's probably going to have a nonchalant attitude and let the States decide about what to do with sexual minorities. The nonchalance may just apply to abortion rights too, where he allows the States to decide how to regulate abortions. The sexual-political topic that is of most concern at the federal level is probably the defunding of Planned Parenthood. For a long time, Republicans want to defund Planned Parenthood. If that happens, many Planned Parenthood clinics have to close down, because they cannot withstand the pressure anymore. However, Donald Trump has the power to veto such a legislation.

If he ever does pass such a legislation against Planned Parenthood, then some churches may step in and provide free gifts to women who are considering an abortion in order to deter them from getting an abortion. Maybe local community churches are trying to provide an alternative to abortion, which is helping the mother raise the child.

[madhatters4]

the re-count in the bush election was due to issues on california ballots. it actually led to a change in the way florida did it's ballotting

i don't think you can decide what is a minor issue. it may not apply to you but for millions of americans it does. i also don't think you or any of us can truly predict what the future may be. we can only deal with our present and a very uncertain future. which leads to my next point...
if people don't like what our government is doing or has stated it will do; it is their right and should be encouraged to voice their opinions. it is a key principle on which our country is founded, it's how we overcame tyranny, got civil rights legislation passed, women got the right to vote, and ended wars

[mermaidrocketship]

People need to realize checks and balances are a thing. Trump can't go in and do whatever he wants, regardless of what he says. Everyone needs to calm down.

[Barrabus_the_Free]

Yes and no.

With Executive Orders, a president CAN do pretty much anything. Bush the Second started the Dept of Homeland Security (oh how I HATE that name. It reminds me of the Gestapo or Komitet Gosudarstvennoy Bezopasnosti, the KGB, "Committee for State Security"). Klintoon delegated the president's power to authorize the use of nuclear, chemical, or biological weapons to the SecDef (IIRC), as well as a shit-ton of other things. You want some reading that will both bore you and anger you, read the executive orders by various presidents sometime.

Allegedly, EO's can be challenged in federal court. In reality, I doubt that they'd be able to be overturned, unless they are an EXTREME example of the president bypassing CONgress or they involve highly illegal things that can't simply be swept under the rug.

[nalaa]

1) NotMyPresident refers to the fact that he didn't actually most votes. Most people did NOT vote for Trump. And no technically he is not elected until December. But anyway I think rethinking a system in which the candidate that gets the most votes can lose the election is a valid concern/complaint. In fact Donald Trump himself thinks so
www.thewrap.com/.../...016-11-10-at-9.57.16-AM.png

4) Yes it's only for years, but by that logic ww1 was ONLY 4 years. I think if it had been Romney or literally any other of the republican candidates people might have been disappointed but not this passionate about this. Trump for obvious reasons is a very controversial character

3) Yes but you're missing the point. The point was that people who are seriously can't be dropped or left with the costs by their insurance. Ya maybe someone who has had a heart attack shouldn't have had bacon everyday, but are they supposed to now? Should we just let them die? Or people who become chronically ill from being exposed to dangerous chemicals? Or people who get cancer through no fault of their own? Jon Stewart a while back made a lot of noise about first responders in 9/11 being left with massive medical bills they can't afford

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L11Bxolo44

And if there is no solution on a federal level states might take it into their own hand. Or not. But ya Mitt Romney himself introduced a system not unlike Obamacare in MA

4) Well what is and what is not a petty thing is very subjective. Personally I don't think abortion is a petty or trivial subject.
In fact here in Ireland there's about to be referendum to change the constitution in order to make abortion legal.

That being said, I agree. He's gonna be the next president and it's gonna be ok. I think people who want to revote are going through bargaining in the 5 stages of grief, they'll get to acceptance eventually, give it time

[Barrabus_the_Free]

Regardless of what Trump himself has said on the matter, the electoral college is the only thing that prevents NY, CA, Philly, and Chicago from choosing the president every time.

Trump should maybe review the differences between democracy and a republic. The US is *supposed to be* a democratic constitutional republic.

[nalaa]

@Barrabus_the_Free maybe it DOES make sense. I'm just saying that questioning the system is also something that makes sense, because she claimed it notMyPresident was a nonsensical hashtag or headline.
And well if NY, CA and Chicago have the most people maybe the should choose the president? It's an odd system to me. I don't see the advantage. It seems to me electoral votes are always roughly proportional to population anyway. The only thing is, if you're in an are that normally votes for the other party, you're essentially throwing your vote away. Whereas with popular vote, every vote counts

[Barrabus_the_Free]

Just because those places have a high population does not mean they should dictate to the rest of the country. I used to have buddies that lived in Illinois, and they couldn't stand that Chicago basically dictated to the rest of the state. If you just look at results, Illinois is almost as liberal as NYC, but step out of Shitcago and you're (generally) in the US. Same for CA. Get away from a couple of major cities and things different. The people are much different in the SFV than they are in Los Angeles. It's probably the same in PA and NY, I've never lived in either of those places, unlike CA.

Someone in Shitcongo or Na Yak has very different experiences and concerns than someone in Sheridan, WY. And they shouldn't get to be the only ones who pick this country's 'leaders'. If that person is doing things that affect Sheridan, then Sheridan should get an equal say. Not "NYC has 9 million people so they say this, and that's how it is".

[Barrabus_the_Free]

The men that designed the current system were really damn smart. If people would step back and look at it, setting aside their personal politics and look at what the goal was and how it's attained, the EC is a damn good system. Yes, it's far from perfect, but it's better than most systems.

[nalaa]

@Barrabus_the_Free Just because those places have a high population does not mean they should dictate to the rest of the country.

But why not? They ARE the country. What you're saying is in effect that a vote from Chicago should be worth less than a vote from elsewhere in the state and I have trouble seeing how that would be justified? Why wouldn't all votes count the same?
In fact I read the EC was specifically designed so that all votes would not count equal and it had something to do with slave owning. But obviously that was a long time ago
www.pbs.org/.../

I feel by our values in the 21st century every vote would count equal. And really I have a hard time seeing why it wouldn't?
You keep saying big cities would dictate the president, but if they make up so much of population, they ARE the country, they should decide the president

In my country popular vote decides and out constitution is from 1945. And yes it's common knowledge that once the biggest "states" votes are in ,

[nalaa]

the election is basically decided, because they make up about half the population. But so what? Other votes still count. They can't just as much as the vote everywhere else.
And in fact it's rare for one party to get a majority. About 30% votes go to small parties so normally one big party forms a coalition with a smaller one. And in fact this term the big two parties had to form a coalition. I think that would be a great exercise for democrats and republicans.
But with the EC in between, voting for small parties is throwing your vote away and voting for the party that is unpopular in your region is throwing your vote away, and your votes aren't worth the same, they depend on where you live, which is bizarre to me

[Nothanks700]

You need to actually read your history. Although im sure people demanded a re-vote, that wasn't the problem. Gore won the popular vote significantly but lost the electoral vote. In addition, there were some serious voting issues in Florida, and the election was ultimately determined by the Supreme Court. Still, I'd be far more apt to see 8 more years of bush vs 4 of Donald Trump.

2nd, in 4 years this president can do significant damage. Especially since I'm sure Trump will freely use executive action to do whatever whimsy he happens to feel that day. Which might be something like deport all Muslims one day, and then tweet that he "loves all Muslims" and immediately redact his executive action, bringing all Muslims back. If here is one thing Donald Trump is not, it's consistent.

And that is what scares me most about this man. Stability in a president is probably more important than their policies. Because a presidents very words can shift markets. If markets are increasingly unstable, our economy will follow suit. You will regret saying that it's ok Donald Trump has become our president.

[gotc147]

Wahhh!

Buckle up cupcake, you're about to go on a ride!

[Thisperson98]

So you are afraid he would abuse executive orders like Obama did?

[Nothanks700]

@Thisperson98 lol. That's probably one of the funniest and most unfounded accusations regarding Obama. Obama has written somewhere around 230 executive orders compared to Bushs 285 or so and Regans 380. But, I'm not really concerned that Bush wrote that many orders, as I'm not about Obama. What I'd be concerned about is the irrationality of these orders at innorputune times. Trump is a man whose definitions of reality change with the minute. He is 100% unpredictable. I can't say I actually disagree with his policies, because I actually still don't know where he stands on almost any issue. Say he writes an exucitive order for the immediate deportation of all undocumented workers. No Republican president would ever do that aside from Trump. That's because the rest were intelligent enough to know how much it would devastate our economy. But trump has literally no understanding of that.

[Thisperson98]

Obama used executive order to make laws. His job isn't to make laws.

[Nothanks700]

@Thisperson98 they all used executive orders to make laws, that's what an executive order is. The reason you believe this bullshit., is because the Republican Party has done one thing very effectively, run very intense smear campaigns. It's why emails and benghazzie were given such high media attention, when neither deserved that much attention. Embassies are attacked all the tome, wasting 9+ congressional hearings on it for a concentrated whitch hunt expending millions of taxpayer dollars about sums up what the Republican Party is about now a days. And I'm not a liberal. This is just reality.

[Other_Tommy_Wiseau]

Part of the problem is that the president, because he's/she's elected, is a reflection of the people that voted for him/her. With trump, due to the things he's said about virtually every group of human beings, a lot see it as a referendum of the prejudice and racism and sexism and bigotry that has existed in this country for literally hundreds of years. And his nomination is a validation of that. Not specifically that the people who voted for him are racist, sexist, etc, but that people are also glossing over that stuff and allowing it to persist in this country

With that said, the election's over and people need to get the fuck over it. He's the president whether you like it or not. Republicans win some years. Democrats win others. That's how the country works. I do agree on the self reliance, though, although, at some point, macro does affect the micro, so the self reliance point has to be taken with a grain of salt... especially in certain areas that still exist in the country, like failing school systems, inner cities, economic inequality opportunities, etc... but I'm opening up a can of worms at that point

Also, why is this in the sexual behavior section? 🤔

[myTake Owner]

I tried to assign this to Society & Culture, but the moronic algorithm sorts this into Sexual Behavior instead. This, and a bunch of Takes that have the word "sex" in it. I think that's the keyword or trigger.

[Other_Tommy_Wiseau]

I hate that shit. It's so annoying

[Other_Tommy_Wiseau]

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Oh look. More butthurt downvoters... god forbid they aren't man enough to actually explain how I'm possibly wrong 🤔

[jacquesvol]

Some see their prejudice and racism and sexism and bigotry as a symbol of 'Freedom'.
That's the influence of the Tea Party in the G. OP.
Speaking out against bigotry, racism and sexism was labeled 'political correctness' by extreme right pundits on shows and talk radios.
Add a lot of never proven lies and rumors about all kinds of crimes supposedly committed by the opponent , spread over the internet. Then get one of the most powerful employees of the federal government dropping an "October bomb"
That's how propaganda works.
Use a 18th century voting system, made for a 18th century situation.
Add voter caging and exaggerated ID requirements in a country where few ID requirements exist.

And so on... a long economic crisis, religious sentiments, town against city ressentiment...
Add that to a badly planned campaign , a lack of charisma and you get the 2016 result.

[TheSpartan]

"With trump, due to the things he's said about virtually every group of human beings, a lot see it as a referendum of the prejudice and racism and sexism and bigotry that has existed in this country for literally hundreds of years."

Complete morons see it this way. Semi-sane human beings don't.

[Other_Tommy_Wiseau]

@TheSpartan cool story, bro... and complete dipshits will quote random shit I wrote and say I'm wrong without actually saying anything 😒

[jacquesvol]

@TheSpartan Why insult people?

[TheSpartan]

@jacquesvol who am I insulting? No one in this conversation actually believes that this election was a referendum on meaningless leftist buzzwords.

[TheSpartan]

What's there to say? We know it's ridiculous to claim Trump is racist, sexist, or anything other bit of nonsense. The Left slanders everyone and anyone they disagree with with those terms.

[Other_Tommy_Wiseau]

@TheSpartan what's there to say? Something remotely intelligent beyond an ad hominem... but like 90% of the site, anything devoid of intelligent conversation is like trying to get a 5 year old to process quantum mechanics 🙄. And no, I'm not "left", you idiot. Just like how you say the left slanders anyone who disageees with them, not everyone who shares your views is "leftist", dipshit. Maybe learn something about politics and come back to me 😒

[Other_Tommy_Wiseau]

@TheSpartan also, I'll be left all day if I means not being a shitty human being, something you'd know nothing about, huh? 🙄

[Waffles731]

That cat gif is freaking amazing

[Other_Tommy_Wiseau]

@Waffles731 so are the amount of retarded people on this site

[TheSpartan]

I never said you were part of "the left". It's ironic that you bring up intelligent conversation when you appear to have the worst reading comprehension of anyone I've ever come across--and that's saying a lot when it comes to the Internet.

[TheSpartan]

"also, I'll be left all day if I means not being a shitty human being, something you'd know nothing about, huh? "

Yeah, I'm not so sure what you're even referencing. My point was clear: most people don't actually believe accusations of sexism, racism, and other nonsense anymore.

[Other_Tommy_Wiseau]

@TheSpartan "What's there to say? We know it's ridiculous to claim Trump is racist, sexist, or anything other bit of nonsense. The Left slanders everyone and anyone they disagree with with those terms"

Implied it was directed towards me considering your first comment was about my opinion being dumb. So there's literally all the evidence in the world supporting what I figured who the statement was directed at. Don't change it just to make yourself sound cool... or learn to fucking write precisely. I'm not that stupid

I'm referencing my opinions about what I said, which pertains to what the criticisms about trump are and why it's a problem and how you dismissed it and disagreed with it... if you can't get that, don't bother answering...

And yeah, kinda a lot of the majority believe it those accusations. Just cause gag doesn't or you choose to not listen to it or pay attention doesn't mean those accusations have subsided or people don't believe they're true anymore

C'mon man 🙄

[Other_Tommy_Wiseau]

@TheSpartan I'm not doing this anymore, bruh. I'm not into dealing with stupid tonight, my cowboys won today and I'm in a good mood. I don't need to ruin it. Go be an annoying shit to someone else who wants to deal with your stupidity. I'm out. Peace ✌️

[JudgmentDay]

1. Pretty much, because I was there when it happened and I felt the same way people had felt when Bush became president, and then it became 8 long years, sigh... but oh well whatever happened had happened. It's all over now and I'm over it because I realize I did what I only could do at the time and I voted against Bush twice. BUT, he still won.

2. Correction. It's only another 4 years at the minimum. He may get re-elected, he may not. Still have to wait until December for them to finalize things and in January for him to get inaugurated.

And then assuming nothing worse or chaotic can happen in those 4 to 8 years he's in office. Worse case scenarios such as a total financial economic collapse like Argentina or Venezuela, and then everyone can kiss their rights goodbye because we're going to live under Martial Law. That is if the worst were to happen, don't think it can't because it is still possible, we're over 20 Trillion dollars in debts which is an inconceivable amount of money. If Trump were to impose Martial Law should something like an Economic Collapse were to occur, then he'll be in charge for as long as he could or as long as he deems necessary.

3. For those who are most reliant wouldn't have to worry too much if the shit were to hit the fan, let's put it that way. Since they won't have to solely rely on the government or anyone else to take care of them. But just do the best you can to take care of yourself.

4. If the shit were to hit the fan, you can kiss all those things goodbye, regardless. Again, it's around 20 Trillion dollars in debt and still growing, that is an enormous amount of debts, and until I see it being reduced in Hundreds of Thousands or even Millions, an economic collapse is inevitable; it just can and it will happen.

[Anonymous]

Abortion is a bigger issue than you think. No one in this country is doing a thing to actually help with homeless, hungry and abused kids but damn they sure can cry that a fetus has more rights than someone who is actually alive. There is an over population issue as well that has led to global warming/climate change (thats right thanks to humankind we have screwed ourselves and generations to come but republicans dont want to admit there's such a thing as climate change.) The way I see it if Trump does anything to put us back in time (women have no rights, gays have no rights and anyone of another race has no rights) I will be leaving and have no problem saying that. America has that right to "fight" back by saying "not my president" because Hilary actually won but because of the stupid electoral votes Trump won.
Also stupider is not a real word, I have never seen it in a dictionary.

[Idonotgivearatsass]

You can't define healthy, what's healthy for one person isn't for another... nor can you make someone want to be healthy. What if someone is allergic to healthy foods, then what? You're obviously against abortion based upon your Planned Parenthood response, well, I think a woman has a complete right do what ever she wants with her body, including aborting a fetus. If she doesn't want it, she doesn't have to keep it. Self-reliant, um, so you think everyone should grown their own fruits and vegetables, as if we don't grow enough to feed everyone already... how about instead we don't throw out the stuff that doesn't sell and let those people that can't pay full price buy it at reduced prices... you're solving the same problem without increasing the waste. Come back in 25 years when you've lived a little, let me know if your opinions are still the same.

[COCOCHANEL]

it's good to give power back to states instead of trying to be the king like obama did

[Barrabus_the_Free]

OK, I can't stand Count Chocula or anything he or any other democommie stand for, but I have to be fair about this. Bush the Second was no better. Klintoon was probably actually worse as far as Executive Orders go. And Bush the First was a shitbag too.

[McCurious]

You start out mentioning the election of George W. Bush. That was a disputed election in which he - just like last week's election - received fewer votes than the other guy. And what did he do? He committed a massive war crime invading Iraq and caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocents.

I strongly suspect the new president will cook up some far worse catastrophe. Isn't that worth getting angry over?

[Anonymous]

Well I survived George Bush so I will wait out Trump. As bad as it was though I'd rather have George Bush in office than Trump. I also don't understand the hate for Obama, cause all those folks probably stayed silent when Bush ruined the country but that's just my opinion. I think Obama did okay as president. Then there's this
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[Anonymous]

Definitely, things are getting way too out of hand with the elections lately, part of the problem is the negative campaigns coupled with the fear mongering media.

[John_Doesnt]

Did you bother to read in your textbook what Bush did in 4 years? He bankrupted us and started 2 wars. 4 years is a long time to destroy the country.

[D1rk13]

I don't live in the states but have to admit, It's entertaining watching US citizens acting out as if the world is ending. XD

Divide et impera ;)

[MysteriousDarkness]

The stuff that is going on in the US is entertaining to you is a a load of crap. How about we find stuff that is crap about South Africa and laugh about it

[D1rk13]

@MysteriousDarkness Haha SA is old news dude.

[MysteriousDarkness]

Probably because South Africa is aplace people want to forget about. You are forlorn.

[lumberman9]

lol I'm American and I agree with you on that

[Idonotgivearatsass]

@MysteriousDarkness Hey, I live in the U. S. and I find this entertaining... we're making ourselves a laughing stock in front of the world... so yeah, it's very entertaining.

[MysteriousDarkness]

@Idonotgivearatsass You find people protesting, beating people up that they think voted for Trump and burning the American flag funny is sickening. What is funny about people being beaten up? To you what is funny about burning the American flag By laughing at everything means you do not care.

[Idonotgivearatsass]

@MysteriousDarkness Now the beatings aren't funny, the reactions are what I find funny... as for burning the American flag, the Supreme Court said it was allowable. I really don't see anything wrong with burning the flag if that's what you need to do to get out your aggression's, it's certainly better than rioting, destroying property and beating people up... don't you think?

[MysteriousDarkness]

@Idonotgivearatsass If you saw somone with an American flag onthe ground burning it you would allow it

[Idonotgivearatsass]

@MysteriousDarkness Yes, because it's a piece of cloth that represents our country and it's LEGAL to burn it.

[Righttobeararms83]

5. Most importantly you dont live in a dictatorship. You voted in the election and your candidate lost or you didn't bother to vote and the candidate that you wanted didn't win.

[WhaChaChaKing]

Trump is not the same as Bush and neither are his supporters.

[Anonymous]

The Party of NO allowed a BUSH Dynasty but shun a CLINTON Dynasty. That is fundamentally right to them. But then again, Faux News is nesting in their head.

[Rissyanne]

They need to just get over it. He won live with it

[Saoirse_Nua]

Interesting - Could be true, could be false

[jjesica346]

NEVER

[gotc147]

Wahhh!

[Adigelunar]

thats perfect

[MissSakura]

good takee