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Rape Culture In America (Page 3)
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Rape culture doesn't exist in the United States, if you wanna argue women's rights complain about Islam.
I know right? Why do so many women defend violent and thuggish men and reprimand gentle men and misinterpret their very unthreatening behavior? What is the psychology of this?
@Jayson101 It's trendy and cool to be a libtard nowadays, damn war on logic.
@OldFashion1776 lol and you think republicunts are logical? bahahaha
These statistics are true. In college, most men are themselves drunk, so there thinking the process is not telling them how to think fully, and they are at a loss on what to do on when it happens. When both parties drink, that has to be considered.
One boy is raped every 8 minutes by a female teacher and we say, "all boys want sex." Some recent cases have shown, no they didn't or societal pressure put on them to engage in sex. The real rape culture is with the females not the males. A college study shows more girls than boys pressured their partner into sex or used drugs and alcohol to get them to consent, but why are men still responsible. Lena Dunham herself admittedly raped a male, but nothing was done about it.
Not true, sadly.
@UsernameMadness What's your source, my source has been a tried and true calculator, plus FBI and other studies. https:// ojp. gov/ reviewpanel/pdfs /panel_report_101014. pdf
My source is common sense and experience. The FBI blows everything out of proportion to get more funding.
@UsernameMadness So I am getting on average in my news feed of 7 different women raping boys a day is common sense.
I've never been taught that rape is okay. If i see someone trying to rape a girl, i'd intervene. I don't know what else i can do to not be a part of rape culture. I"m sorry.
Thank you for being supportive!! :D
Good luck with this take. I do not envy you for the vitriol heading your way.
"1 in 6 males have been victims of sexual assault or rape. They fall prey to both women and men. Women will often use coercion or threats."
Only a major sissy will allow himself to be forced by a woman to do something against his will sexually.
A women can't rape a man if he is conscious. So let's quit with that foolishness.
thats very fucked up and is completely possible its rare because its a lot harder but its still possible unfortunately and calling them sissys because they are raped is just completely unsympathetic if he is drugged or wasted on alcohol iv been so drugged before i couldnt barely move i certainly couldnt really use my strength i was so restricted i could barely even lift myself off the ground it can happen sometimes just touching the area will get them hard and its beyond their control and some females have even gone to the extent of putting viagra in them so tell me if your tied down drugged drunk or even if she's just a really strong girl how does it make you a sissy?
DRUNK*
You need to be removed from society and placed in a padded cell cuz what you just said is fucked up
@troychapman exactly!!
"Only a major sissy will allow himself to be forced by a woman to do something against his will sexually.
A women can't rape a man if he is conscious. So let's quit with that foolishness. "
THAT IS A PRIME EXAMPLE OF RAPE CULTURE TO ALL THE DILLWEEDS ON HERE WHO SAY IT DOESN'T EXIST.
Thanks again for being my object lesson again HCG.
There is no such thing as rape culture in America its a non existent thing
Men can get raped too. You see it’s not so cut and dry. So many women get drunk and stoned, and go home and let some guy fuck them. Then, rather than accept they were sluts, they call rape. Simple. Also many women love attention so pretending to be a victim is perfect. Not saying it doesn’t happen but REAL rape s quite rare in America. A Real culture is women goldigging. That needs to be stopped. Men losing HALF their lives earnings because some woman lied to them is WRONG.
So much hatred for woman dude, wow. So I in 5 woman are lying? Yes there are some false reports and the people that make them are fucked but in no way is rape rare in America. And calling woman gold diggers does not help. Your attitude of all victims must be lying and after money prevents a lot of victims from coming forward for fear of that said about them and is very damaging. As is the belief that men can't be victims. Have a long think dude
@fanggirl5 like I said many girls do call rape because they were sluts and don’t want to aceept it. Women using men for money and taking half his things is a culture and it needs to stop. It’s much more prevalent than rape culture
@fanggirl5 Most of these surveys are incredibly poorly defined I think in the one that gives the 1 in 5 result it meant a woman didn't like the way a man LOOKED at her more or less.
@Ronin514 Ummm no it's actually for sexual assault. Cite your source for where 'he looked at me weird' was apart if the survey. Making things up doesn't help
@fanggirl5 took me a sec to find it but look up the PragerU video Are 1 in 5 women raped in college and they talk about it. Only xpr 1 so can't link it
You know, when you got married without a pre-nup, you agreed that all individual assets coming into the marriage become marital assets. It's not half HIS stuff she takes, it's fair split of marital assets - THEIR stuff. But most divorces involve very few assets, and typically a lot of debt.
The problem is, REAL RAPE and sexual assault is not at all rare in the US. When you add sexual harassment, virtually 100% of women experience these things in their lifetimes, and not just once for the preponderance of us. It's VERY common in the U. S. That you don't know that shows you haven't been listening. Whereas false reports have been estimated to be between 2-8% based on studies that have been done in the U. S. This is not to defend false reports. But to give you some perspective of their prevalence.
Women do lie quite a lot actually. They make it sound like "oh yeah right as if " but actually... they do. Notice how women who say "don't sexualize women" are entirely and exclusively obsessed with their sexuality?
Women take the guys kids and half his savings and half of his shit. Because they lie. So guys never get touched by girls unwanted? Girls never force a guy to have sex with her or else she’ll do something and get him in trouble or what?
Of course they do. It's a right that young girls think they are entitled to because many are entitled and many are scared of losing access to resources that you need when you have kids. That's what moitivates this behavior but it sounds bad so they rationalize it
My parents never really taught me to say "no" persistently. However, I did tell her no because I didn't want her to do things with me (because I actually didn't know her, she was a friend of my sister). And she only reacted by pleading with me more and more until I gave in (which I probably wouldn't have if my parents have taught me to stand my ground and stay with my choice). Needless to say that today she's hypersexual, with 7 kids and still breeding. Poetic justice, I'd say.
I'm sorry you went through that. I support you!!
If you want to see what an ACTUAL rape culture looks like go to the middle east.
www.telegraph.co.uk/.../...-US-troops-in-Iraq.html
@jacquesvol Your point?
Iraq IS in the Middle East, isn't it?
@jacquesvol Muslims rape far more and mutilate women's genitals. Comparing the USA military to Muslims is quite frankly stupid.
The Grand Mufti of Cairo wrote a fatwah against FGM.
Christian Copts in Egypt mutilate as much as Muslims.
Why do you need to compare?
@Blanquino I don't like one sided views
@jacquesvol There is no comparison straight up man. Admit it.
www.nbcnews.com/.../sexual-assault-reports-u-s-military-reach-record-high-pentagon-n753566
@jacquesvol It still pales in comparison man. You're comparing firecrackers to nuclear warheads.
It's about the numbers: there are tens of millions of people in the ME. A lot less in the US Army
Even hundreds of millions in the ME.
Why do you say rape is "normalized" in our culture? Do you know a lot of people who believe rape is acceptable? I don't think rape is normalized at all. Virtually everyone agrees that it is wrong.
It is normalized for a lot of people! There are loads who think having sex with drunk men/women is acceptable
Juat to put an example
@Blanquino I agree, but that doesn't mean its normalized. Some people think killing, stealing, looting and doing cocaine is acceptable too, but that doesn't mean its normalized. Our society has laws again rape because (generally) our society says it is wrong. Unfortunately, sometimes people go against what society says is wrong.
Okay. go along thinking that everyone is out to rape you. Enjoy life in your paranoid bubble but don't hurt other people with your false idiotic claims
You are unable to realize what a real rape culture looks like.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgOdDCd6N10Don't tell police men to wear bulletproof vests, teach criminals not to shoot at them.
Yes and cat calling as well. Men need castration. It's the only real solution. Any situation where men and women are alone can viewed as rape or at the very least sexual harrassment. If castration is too extreme at the moment then body cameras should be worn. These cameras must never be turned off. Even during the sexual encounter. Penalty would be castration.
There's no rape culture in North America. Everyone already knows that rape is wrong. Assuming all boys rape by default is sexism.
And one more important thing, telling women to protect themselves and how to avoid rape is NOT rape culture.
There actually isn't a rape culture in the United States don't believe perpetrated nonsense.
Most of if not all of the info you've provided was proven false quite a while ago
That's insanely false. If you see a fit woman with a belly outside is considered sexy. If you see a fit guy with the belly outside is considered gay.
Teach teenagers not to be turned on by bodies of the opposite sex. . .
Yeah--good luck with that.
Lol it's not about being attracted to someone, it's about sexualizing and harrassing. There is a gr8 difference, m8.
@Blanquino Well you wouldn't want to have sex with someone if you weren't attracted to them
@Blanquino Agreed, but every IS taught not to harass people. I doesn't mean it'll be 100% successful. Kind of like how people are taught not to steal things or hit people but it still happens. Turns out that's why it's still a good idea to teach how to reduce your likelihood of being a victim of a crime.
Sexual assault is not about attraction. It is about believing you have a right to take without consent. Women of all ages, sizes, and forms of dress are sexually assaulted daily.
These ideas we have about "avoid dark alleys" and stuff - they don't even reflect what rape really is for most people who experience it.
And in the end, when you're telling women all these things not to do, you're really just saying "Make sure he rapes the other girl."
@MlleCake Sexual assault isn't ALL about attraction, but attraction certainly plays a role. Women of all sizes ages and forms of dress are assaulted, but not with the same likelihood. I guess I don't understand why some people get so crazed over the idea that there are things you can do and teach and will reduce the odds that a girl becomes a victim of a crime. Yet at the same time we don't have the same reaction to the advice do say, lock your car doors when you park or don't leave your valuables in plain sight in the passenger seat.
The point is, all the advice given is about limiting us from fully enjoying our world. It puts responsibility, and then blame on rape victims. The thing is, all of these "preventative measures" still don't help keep women from being raped. Some of the advice would have to be "never have a male relative" for it to be meaningful for the experience they actually had.
No matter how women are dressed, they are raped. In fact, there are enclaves of religious groups that enforce modest dress on women, yet most of the women were victims of child rape. No matter where we go we are raped - in our own homes sometimes, by our own husbands. What's your advice about that? "Never let your husband consume alcohol and be an asshole"?
It simply is not in the control of women to prevent being raped, or we would already be doing that.
Rape is not a natural conclusion for attraction. People can be taught, from the early years, that consent is essential.
@MlleCake Responsibility, yes. Blame, no. Again, would you say that needing to lock your car doors and not leave your purse on the passenger seat in plain view puts responsibility on car owners for keeping their property safe from thieves? Of course it does! But does it mean that the car owner is "to blame" if his/or her car is broken into? No--the blame lies entirely on the criminal. BUT, could you do something to reduce the likelihood of having your car broken into? Of course you can. Now what I find odd is that almost everyone will agree with what I just wrote about a car and won't freak out about it, but if you say something similar about reducing the odds of being assaulted (especially sexually assaulted) all that logic seems to go out the window.
Also, there's a HUGE difference between reducing the odds of an event happening and reducing it all the way to zero. Can we 100% prevent assault? Of course not. Does that mean reducing the odds is useless? Of course not!
But the responsibility of locking a door is like, nothing. Takes nearly no effort and doesn't limit your freedoms.
In some cultures, women are kept virtual prisoners in their homes to prevent them from being assaulted.
Locking my car and keeping track of my purse don't limit my freedoms either.
ALL of the responsibility, blame and fault lies on the perpetrator in rapes. ALL of it.
@MlleCake I never said anything about the fault of assault being with anyone other than the perpetrator. That's not the point. What I am saying is that everyone has it in their power to reduce the likelihood of being a victim of a crime. It does no one ANY good to deny that fact. Also, people ARE responsible for looking after their own personal safety. So it seems silly go forward without paying any heed to risks that are out there. It does no one any good to say "well, this is the perpetrator's fault so I'm not going to do anything to reduce my odds of being a victim." That's no more "victim blaming" than it is victim blaming to say to a homeowner, "you should probably think about buying insurance since things like fires and storms happen."
What you're not understanding is that - I generally agree with you - but in the case of rape and sexual abuse, there really doesn't appear to be much of anything women can actually do that works to prevent rape AND everything suggested is a limit on her freedom to enjoy the world.
That's why we really need a shift in the way we approach this problem. I think creating consent culture is fantastic.
@MlleCake So it may not be possible to PREVENT rape, but you CAN reduce the likelihood--often a LOT. Case in point--yes you CAN go to a frat party by yourself and get so intoxicated you can't walk and black out. But that will VASTLY increase your odds of being a victim of assault. Does not going to a frat party alone and getting blasted restrict your freedoms? Of course it does. Is it still generally a good idea given the risk mitigation? Of course it is!
Now let's use this logic in a less emotionally charged, but no less important setting: going swimming in the ocean. It's a good idea to always swim with a buddy. It will substantially reduce the risk of drowning. Does that reduce your freedom to go swimming on your own? Yes. Is it still a good idea? Yes. Does it mean you can never go swimming alone? No--but you SHOULD be aware that you ARE taking a bigger risk than usual and you should decide if it's worth the risk. Same as getting blasted alone at a frat party.
Except, we're not talking about swimming in a lake.
And I still think it's best to foster consent culture, and continually work on this issue we have of trying to find some reason to make the victim out as responsible for what happened.
We used to have a culture where college women could attend parties with very little risk of being assaulted or raped - I would love some of that back.
@MlleCake It's more similar than you may want to believe it is. Both are issues of personal safety. Both are issues of taking decisions that increase your likelihood of exiting a situation safely. Let's take sex out of it. If I'm at a sporting event, sitting in a section surrounded by drunk belligerent fans, I have a choice as to how I handle the situation. Is it 100% within my rights to cheer loudly for my team and jeer their team? Absolutely! 100%. Is that a good idea in this situation? No--no it isn't. Does that reduce my freedom? Yes it does. Am I at fault if I do so anyway and get the shit beaten out of me? No--the people beating me are at fault. Does that make me any less beaten? No. Could I have done something to reduce the likelihood of getting my ass beaten. Yes. Does pointing this out constitute "victim blaming?" No.
Wow @Anonymous, you really have good points! It's just sad that women should have to restrict themselves more than men need to even if it's just to be safe.
@Rissa95 Thanks Rissa. And yes--it is sad that women have to be careful, but it's also the world we live in. Still, there are things that can be done to keep safe. I'm just surprised/shocked when people almost vilify pointing out what is otherwise very sound personal safety advice.