lol so you've basically just described what college or university was before these "safe spaces" came along.. Calling it "Not Safe" sounds like people are going into a battle royale and fight to the death. Nice effort but having these zones seems childish because the real world won't have these. Just take out safe spaces and you won't need the alternative. It's brutal but thats what makes people strong. These kids need to grow up and face the world.
Which they don't, and that's the problem. That's why they need a safe space to begin with, because they refuse to listen to anyone having a different opinion. They even don't want people to have a different opinion. Apparently it's offensive to not agree with them.
I think the idea of safe space is ridiculous. What are you trying to be safe from? What is the danger? If this is a means to restrict certain opinions on things, then that isn't okay.
Safe spaces are just breeding grounds for sjws who get triggered if you're a straight male. It's sad how sensitive people are when they hear that someone has different political standpoints.
Yes, but if colleges are going to mandate a debate class where any speech is allowed, they need the safe space for balance.
If there is no such class, I do not think there should be safe spaces. Somehow students have to learn how to tolerate opposing viewpoints. If they can learn those skills, I have no issue with safe spaces
We need schools to have "trigger rooms" where people can go in and vent offensive shit without some weak little SJW whiny shithead pissing their organic vegan pants about it.
@Waffles731 Probably partly depends on the college. They certainly do exist and at schools where they do exist I think they can be problematic whether that's 99% of schools, 33%, or 1%
Bigots can hang out as much as they want off campus.
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Are you saying campuses NEED places where a student can be beaten up because of his race or sexual orientation because that happens also outside campuses? :|
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I know you wrote "no physical violence" but there are many forms of non physical violence.
@L_Peyton When I had the idea for not safe spaces. If those don't exist I don't think safe spaces should exist either. If people are willing to debate with people with opposing viewpoints, they can be in their safe space when they aren't debating. That follows a typical model of exposure therapy. Safety, "Danger", Safety. Implementing this and removing safe spaces would follow a flooding model. Danger, Danger, Danger. That's been found to be not as effective overall as the exposure model I believe.
I'm concerned that if their safe spaces are removed they'll huddle up into a ball and refuse to engage with the outside world. I'd rather they keep their safe spaces but have to leave them sometimes and be exposed to the thing that makes them anxious. I have SA- in the past, that's what has happened after an exposure. My idea would benefit me as much as anybody else.
My main concern is getting people out of their echo chambers. I would compare the echo chambers to nuke shelters...
@L_Peyton in "Foster, you're dead." If safe spaces never existed this wouldn't be an issue, but now that they do this issue has to be approached carefully to avoid making the problem worse.
As much as I want to really agree with you on this, as a very recent college graduate, I have to disagree. In my experience and the experience with many of my peers from other major universities in my state, a lot of classrooms are nothing more than a higher quality high school class and for some classes I use higher quality loosely. A lot of students go to class, listen, and do what they are told to do, nothing more. Now there is inherently nothing wrong with this, but the classroom VERY rarely becomes a debate zone for anything. Now I personally had quite a few professors who were fantastic, in fact I would say all the professors I interacted with in my department, in and outside of the classroom, were always open to discussion and debate of ideas and theories. I was a very fortunate student.
there was one of my classes where the professor, while a very nice person, quelled any opposing views or discussion that were based in opposing views. This was a gender studies class.
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lol so you've basically just described what college or university was before these "safe spaces" came along.. Calling it "Not Safe" sounds like people are going into a battle royale and fight to the death. Nice effort but having these zones seems childish because the real world won't have these. Just take out safe spaces and you won't need the alternative. It's brutal but thats what makes people strong. These kids need to grow up and face the world.
I think the 'unsafe space' is literally everything outside the 'safe space'. So not much point in creating this, but I can see why you'd want too
Problem is that now people wanting safe spaces also want that what applies there applies outside of it too. Making outside safe spaces too.
@Guanfei Well it's tough, they have to appreciate not everyone feels like they do
Which they don't, and that's the problem. That's why they need a safe space to begin with, because they refuse to listen to anyone having a different opinion. They even don't want people to have a different opinion. Apparently it's offensive to not agree with them.
@Guanfei And I agree with that, but like I said it is literally, tough
I think the idea of safe space is ridiculous. What are you trying to be safe from? What is the danger? If this is a means to restrict certain opinions on things, then that isn't okay.
That's the opposite of what my Take is arguing with for.
I know. I mean a better solution is asking what do these people need to be safe from.
Safe spaces are just breeding grounds for sjws who get triggered if you're a straight male. It's sad how sensitive people are when they hear that someone has different political standpoints.
Yes, but if colleges are going to mandate a debate class where any speech is allowed, they need the safe space for balance.
If there is no such class, I do not think there should be safe spaces. Somehow students have to learn how to tolerate opposing viewpoints. If they can learn those skills, I have no issue with safe spaces
We need schools to have "trigger rooms" where people can go in and vent offensive shit without some weak little SJW whiny shithead pissing their organic vegan pants about it.
I think everywhere should be a safe place for people 5o exchange ideas.
Safe as in not dangerous, not threatening to one's life- I agree. Safe as in not experiencing discomfort or stress, I disagree entirely
I've never actually seen a "safe place" when I was in college.
Neither have I and I'm currently in college.
I'm convinced they are nowhere near as prevelant as certain people think
@Waffles731 Probably partly depends on the college. They certainly do exist and at schools where they do exist I think they can be problematic whether that's 99% of schools, 33%, or 1%
Bigots can hang out as much as they want off campus.
Are you saying campuses NEED places where a student can be beaten up because of his race or sexual orientation because that happens also outside campuses?
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I know you wrote "no physical violence" but there are many forms of non physical violence.
A safe space on a college campus is like breathing in second hand smoke.
Safe spaces are like playpens for overgrown babies.
You came around to the idea that adults need safe spaces? How did that happen?
@L_Peyton When I had the idea for not safe spaces. If those don't exist I don't think safe spaces should exist either. If people are willing to debate with people with opposing viewpoints, they can be in their safe space when they aren't debating. That follows a typical model of exposure therapy. Safety, "Danger", Safety. Implementing this and removing safe spaces would follow a flooding model. Danger, Danger, Danger. That's been found to be not as effective overall as the exposure model I believe.
I'm concerned that if their safe spaces are removed they'll huddle up into a ball and refuse to engage with the outside world. I'd rather they keep their safe spaces but have to leave them sometimes and be exposed to the thing that makes them anxious. I have SA- in the past, that's what has happened after an exposure. My idea would benefit me as much as anybody else.
My main concern is getting people out of their echo chambers. I would compare the echo chambers to nuke shelters...
@L_Peyton in "Foster, you're dead." If safe spaces never existed this wouldn't be an issue, but now that they do this issue has to be approached carefully to avoid making the problem worse.
The business world is chock full of safe spaces. Lol. This generation will be the biggest failure ever. Lol
Safe spaces aren't good for society.
What about the safe space G@G gives you by allowing you to post anonymously?
@goaded People are still able to reply to her though and can still figure out her identity of they're clever about it.
If somebody wishes to challenge her views, they're able to. That's the point.
@goaded I don't know if that counts
@ThatPersonOverThere Well, one sentence is not as obvious as posting a video about a flat Earth, for example!
I disagree with you, though, because the safe space is her "real" identity, disagreements with a femanon here can't follow through to there.
Class rooms are debate zones...
As much as I want to really agree with you on this, as a very recent college graduate, I have to disagree. In my experience and the experience with many of my peers from other major universities in my state, a lot of classrooms are nothing more than a higher quality high school class and for some classes I use higher quality loosely. A lot of students go to class, listen, and do what they are told to do, nothing more. Now there is inherently nothing wrong with this, but the classroom VERY rarely becomes a debate zone for anything. Now I personally had quite a few professors who were fantastic, in fact I would say all the professors I interacted with in my department, in and outside of the classroom, were always open to discussion and debate of ideas and theories. I was a very fortunate student.
there was one of my classes where the professor, while a very nice person, quelled any opposing views or discussion that were based in opposing views. This was a gender studies class.
Triggered entitled special little snowflakes. :)
Interesting... I think I like that idea.
maybe instead of a space have a required class
There are no true safe spaces...
People should be reengineer themselves.