Why Women's day isn't what it was before

[Anonymous]

You can hate how much you want, but this is my point of view. Anything that is female-centered gets critique nowadays, and Women's day is just one example. You think it gets sooo much attention, and proves people see women as superior? Nope, it's just a celebration of women getting the rights that men have. A reminder of the times women became equal. Through hundreds of years, women faced way more difficulties than men. But here's how the Women's day slowly gets more ruined and ruined, and is soon likely to be long forgotten:

1. Before it was just a fun celebration, and now it's just a day when guys complain about their oppression the most.

In my country we have a women's day, a men's day, a girl's day and a boy's day. Only women's day and boy's day get celebrated. But it still isn't enough for some. They would want men's day and boy's day to be celebrated for the sake of "justice", but then it would be unfair to women (which they don't seem to get).

2. Then there are all those memes posted on women's day where they put dishwashing sponges as "the perfect gifts for women" or memes making women seem like some kind of golddiggers just using women's day as an excuse for getting a lot of presents. Well returning to men's day....

3. It seems to be getting way more attention than women's day, at least online. I remember a lot of posts on any internet forum asking men about their difficulties were on top both on women's day and on men's day. Both men's day and women's day have now become days when you complain about the difficulties that men face and people seem to completely forget the sexism and hate that women still face (+ the purpose of women's day). If you really want equality, then use Women's day as a day of celebrating women and Men's day as a day of celebrating men. Do not use Women's day to bash women or tell us about how amazing men are.

I just wish for everyone to be treated the same and for women's day not to be ruined, we can start taking men's day into account but please, do not ruin women's day for us. Let it still be a celebration like it always was. Women still face different kinds of sexism and men saying "we have it harder!" or "we are oppressed!" doesn't change anything. Again, this is WOMEN'S day.

Ranting aside: I wish everybody here a happy International Women's Day! (Even a few days after)

[MzAsh]

Empowerment for women sometimes means staring back at critics right in their eyes and having the audacity to celebrate and be happy anyway. That’s what we should do.

Having said that, I fully support both women and men’s day.

[myTake Owner]

I find it very sad that a comment that's truly about equality and truly answers the take receives 4 dislikes, while another comment that doesn't answer the Mytake AT ALL and is only a list of the reasons why men should be more respected receives over 8 likes. Have a MHO

[Rolando755]

Both men's and women's day are idiotic. That said, women's day in Latin America cost WOMEN tens of thousands of jobs and thousands WOMEN lost their businesses due to feminists burning and destroying property at random. No laws were changed, women gained no special rights , women LOST a lot over the weekend and now the Mexican and Colombian governments have flat out said they're not paying for the damages to public infrastructure. In Mexico this is especially ironic since most public transport riders in Mexico City are WOMEN. Both governments also have announced they're not hiring anymore maintenance workers or paying overtime to the thousands of WOMEN that now have to clean up the streets. A lot of the female friends I have down there are now publicly pulling their support for feminism - something that would have never happened 5 years ago. Millennial feminism is starting to empower MEN, which is something that has been predicted for years but no one wanted to listen.

[khanamjan]

Yah really everything iz incomplete without women. I love women

[CubsterShura]

Men: Why is there no Men's Day
Also men: do nothing on November 19

I swear these anti-women's clowns and their hypocrisy just makes me wonder what beef they got against all women.

[Rolando755]

I'm not anti-woman. Are you aware of what happened in Latin America? Or are you another young American who lives on social media? I don't care about Men's day no do I even care about. I'm not so weak I need a day to celebrate I have a penis.

[CubsterShura]

Men on women's day: WhY nO MeN dAy
Also men when women point out men's day: we don't need men's day lolz

[CubsterShura]

Also I'm not American

[Rolando755]

Oh god you're from Bangladesh... NO WONDER

[Anoniemus]

@Rolando755 And there are plenty of examples of Feminists helping. Why are you taking radicals as representing the whole population l? Because you’re an idiot that’s why.

[Boppy]

It may be the difference in how much it's mentioned. I don't see any websites mentioning men's day, but for women's day I see messages on social media and get emails from businesses about it.

I live in the USA, for context. A handful of cities and states have recognized the day. The UN do not recognize it, and they have celebrated International Women's day since 1977.

It seems to be more popular in Trinidad, Tobago and Malta, so I guess people there may not complain as much.

[CubsterShura]

If no one's talking about it then you start talking about it! And eventually it shall become popular enough.

[Rolando755]

@Anoniemus So you call me an idiot after clearly ignoring the parts of my argument that aren't convenient to your argument. Typical woman.

[ADFSDF1996]

You are barking up the wrong tree, the real criticism isn’t directed at international women’s day itself it’s directed at the double standard which only allows international women’s day to get recognition while international men’s day goes largely unnoticed. And to add insult to injury, international toilet day is celebrated on the same day as international men’s day.

Most guys, myself included don’t have a problem with international women’s day, we have a problem with how international men’s day goes unnoticed in mainstream society and is made a mockery of by celebrating international toilet day on the same day. It’s hypocrisy that contradicts the so called “fight for equality”.

[MzAsh]

I made a thread on last men’s day and was greeted with a lot of criticism them about how “men don’t need a men’s day, it’s stupid.”

Can you explain this?

[MzAsh]

The criticism was by men, not women.

[ADFSDF1996]

@MzAsh I remember that post and the answer is that there are those cynics who don’t think there should be either an international men’s or women’s day.

[myTake Owner]

But some countries already celebrate boy's day. If we add international Men's day, then men would have two days

[ADFSDF1996]

Then those countries should add girl’s day and international men’s day. It balances itself out.

[Djaay]

@MzAsh. Myself included. I could care less about an international mens day.. Why on earth would I or any other man need a special day of public international interest and for what exactly ?

[Vencam]

I feel that this post already got waaay too many answers for my to count anything, but seeing all the tea and salt in the answers and comments, I think I'll join in. I'll take my time, as you seemed to have taken yours to write your question.
To answer to your question "why isn't woman's day what it used to be?": that's pretty common with this sort of international event. It's been a couple decades since it started, pretty much a generation, so the values it represent start to fade in the mind of the general population. Then again, part of the reason for these events is to REMEMBER these values, but that's off topic.
As to why "guys complain about women during women's day", that's a bit complicated. I think we can agree that there has been a lot of bad talks over feminism and feminists (especially the so called "femi-nazis") over the past few years. Some of the things said were true, other were utter BS but that is the norm. The point is that the thing got so huge that a lot of people got simply fed up with it.
"Who cares if some girl yells nonsense in the street? Is this all feminism is about now?"
Some people may have thought things like that. Others just didn't think the whole thing was worth the attention, others were appalled and so on... My point is: I think many men complain ESPECIALLY during that day since they're reminded of all those negative stories. Then here come the actual bigots and anti-feminism, riding the wave of malcontent to insert actual anti-feminism contents. But I think the root of malcontent is in how the cancerous parts of the feminism movement (although I hesitate in saying they're part of it, but not the point) got so much attention by the media while men seem to be left to their issues and not taken as seriously even when needed.
Also, we should keep in mind that what we see on reddit or other social media is NOT a good representation of what people overall think. The Internet tends to close us into "opinion bubbles" after all, and I hope I managed to poke yours a bit on this subject :)
I'd love to hear both from you, asker, and from @Littlemissbrat and @Nachowedgie who seemed to be your most heated contenders. I dare not proclaim myself as a neutral judge or similar, but I do hope you all may take this chance to try finding some common grounds and understand each other's point of view (even if not agreeing) without the need of insulting one another. I believe we are all mature enough to distinguish between an opinion and a provocation after all ^^

[myTake Owner]

Thank you very much for this answer. You actually took my Take seriously instead of just going "blah blah you're insulting men blah blah"

[Vencam]

You are most welcome. I'm sorry so many people seemed to take this personally, which is why I tried to somehow bring back some dialogue between you, but even if my feeble attempt has bore no fruits I'm still glad you appreciated my answer.
Pardon my lenguage, but in my view your long-ass text deserved more then just a few offended comments with the sporadic serious answer.

[Littlemissbrat]

Lmao you still got a downvote from her 😂

[myTake Owner]

@Littlemissbrat Jesus Christ. There's really something wrong with you. If you want, I can give the guy an upvote now if you want proof that it wasn't me. Done. I upvoted him. And the downvote is still there.

[myTake Owner]

Not to mention that I ALWAYS give arguments that support my opinion, while you have NOTHING to say besides "you're asshole to men" or "you're lying"

[Littlemissbrat]

Fkn chill 😂you need to relax and get some dick dude. Omg you're so high strung you could last longer than a tightened guitar string. You must enjoy all this attention to keep going on and on after woman's Day is done. You trynna make it woman's month?

[Littlemissbrat]

Not true. I quote where you were bullying men but nice try tho.

[myTake Owner]

@Littlemissbrat I explained over 5 times that I was NOT bullying men when writing this. Would you say I'm bullying women if I replaced "men" with "women"?

Also I think it's you who needs dick to the point that you play an anti-feminist version of a white knight

[Littlemissbrat]

Bruh. Look at that other comment before typing and learn how to read while you're at it. You're no better than an ostrich who hides it's head in the sand. I've quoted you verbatim. I have a long and thick dick reserved for me and it's quite nice thank you.

[myTake Owner]

@Littlemissbrat what "other comment"?

[Vencam]

@Littlemissbrat, I don't care much about upvotes and such since I'd rather hear people's opinion then get X-points or whatever they're called, but thanks for caring.
Would you mind highlighting the part of her question that annoys (if "annoying" is the right word) you so much for me too?
Personally I don't think her post was anywhere close enough to be called "bullying", at least I surely didn't interpret it like that, but at the same time I kinda get your point saying "I'm sick of all these feminazis spouting nonsense".
Then again, I don't think THIS should be considered one of those "spouting nonsense" cases, especially since it opened some dialogue, but I'm always ready to change my mind

[Vencam]

Also, I should clarify, Take Owner: I do not quite SUPPORT the three points you made (even thought it seems to me more like pointing out facts and giving your opinion on it rather then making a point) . We have a pretty different opinion on that, and I'd say mine is a bit closer to littlemiss' rather then yours, in fact.
Here's my thought in short, following your points:
1) woman's day is losing popularity mostly due to the bad influence of the extremists "feminists" and how that got overexposed by the media, making people irritated or sick of it. Add to that those few actually mysogenists trying to screw the whole feminist movement up in any way they can and here you have the current situation (I'll address men's day later)
2) People make fun of women's day online: that is just the norm. I don't think it's a good representation of how much the average person likes or dislikes the thing. As an example, there were pretty mean memes about Stephen Hawkin's death less then 12 hours after it happened. But I don't think he could be called a hated person, quite the opposite actually. But the "Internet bubbles" then tend to group all these memes together and make it look like "everyone thinks like that": it may be true, but only INSIDE that bubble. (More below since I'm a chatterbox and there's a 2000 characters cap)

[Vencam]

3) Men's day is getting way too much attention at the expense of women's day: as I said before, Internet bubbles can easily make us think so. I don't think anyone supporting men's day should be labeled as a mysogenist, perchance only a very small fraction of them (after all I'd say that less then 10% of men actually do think on various degrees that males are superior). Nowdays (especially with how much space the feminist movement got in the media in the past few years, for good and bad things) many men feel like their issues are not taken seriously if not even made light of. I think it's clear how with that mindset an international men's day can look nice. To why it gains popularity at the expenses of the IWD, refer to point 1.
I should also point out that these are all my personal opinions and interpretations of the subject. We don't even live on the same continent, so it's normal that our views differ quite a bit on such a complicated subject.
I'd like to hear if you agree or disagree with any of my opinions as this topic fascinates me

[myTake Owner]

I respect that the reality may be a bit different than how it seems to me. The only problems I hade with Littlemiss's comment is that:
1. The comment she made had NOTHING to do with this Take. I described the ways in which women's day has changed and said I want everyone to be treated equal, while she just randomly posted a list of ways men are oppressed. If anything, it just makes it seem like it's men who deserve more respect than women

And

2. She calls me a man-basher even though I already explained that I did not mean to insult anyone but she and Nacho-something-something keep on commenting me stuff like "you're lying" or "you need dick"

[Nachowedgie]

Right because that's all we've said XD someone's spinning stories as usual

[Vencam]

Aye, I agree with you there. The discussion escalated quickly to the point where words were just being thrown around like stones.
As I said, I do agree with some of LittleMiss' points, but the way she went about it made the situation quite toxic and her answer wasn't really spot on in this context. Hopefully you'll get the chance to reconcile in some other question ^^

[Nachowedgie]

I don't intend on reconciling with someone who tries to lie to people to make themselves look better while spinning stories and trying to misinform people, no thanks.

[Vencam]

I don't think such a small matter should be worth this much spite between you, but it's obviously up to you. Also, I really don't think she was trying to make herself look better, just trying to find people who agreed with her AT MOST. That's what I got from her post and her answer to the various takes at least

[Nachowedgie]

"Also, I really don't think she was trying to make herself look better"

Right, so how much is she paying you? Cuz my 11 year old niece can see she's trying to make herself look better, how have you missed it?

[Vencam]

I wish it was so easy for me to find money...
I "missed" it becouse in all her answers I read (I admit I didn't go through them all in here, mostly the one she gave to you and LittleMiss and some others) she just argued her point. If she wanted to make herself look better, wouldn't she try to somehow degrade anyone who had a different (with insults or whatnot), in order to gather likes from the ones who thought the same as her?
If she did, please do point it out to me, becouse I didn't get it (yet?)

[Vencam]

*degrade anyone who had a different opinion

[Nachowedgie]

Literally the first thing she said to you is one perfect example

[Nachowedgie]

And she didn't argue her point at all, she hyperfocused on just one of the many things we said and claimed this was the only thing and reason were we "attacking" her over while ignoring everything else we were saying. She then proceeded to repeat herself over and over while blatantly lying to any new person that came into the mix.

[myTake Owner]

@Nachowedgie Why are you so sure that I'm lying? And why do you say that I am the one repeating myself when you also did not say anything new to support your point? You are just triggered because of the "men complain about being oppressed" sentence and you did not give me ONE SINGLE other example of something else I did that made me look like a man-basher. Also, why do you even feel the need to force third persons into this argument (your niece)?

[Nachowedgie]

It actually blows my mind that people like this exist on the same planet as me, like you were the sperm that won. Wow.

Literally reading all of your comments shows how you're lying.

You've repeated yourself in almost every response and just did again.

When you address all prior made points then I will respond to your pointlessly repeated "argument"

"You are just triggered because of the "men complain about being oppressed" sentence"

There's another lie to add to the list.

"And you did not give me ONE SINGLE other example of something else I did that made me look like a man-basher"

2 lies in one response nice job

"Also, why do you even feel the need to force third persons into this argument (your niece)?"

Didn't force anyone, nice job there trying to twist things as usual, you're really not helping yourself here. She was curious who I was texting on my phone so I told her what GAG was and then she wanted to know what we were talking about so I let her read the conversation.

[Vencam]

I don't get how the first thing she said to me was trying to promote herself. From my perspective she just seemed glad that someone took her point seriously (I'm not saying you didn't, but you can admit that from your answers she COULD get the idea that you did not, am I wrong?).
With that said, I went through all of the answers to this "my take" (hopefully I didn't miss anything since it's a LOT of text to go through) and I still cannot see what makes you think she was trying to "just get likes". From my point of view, neither her or you (referring to both you, nachos, and LittleMiss) argued anything for the likes, but rather becouse you didn't share the same opinion.
LittleMiss shared her opinion, Take Owner argued against it (quite aggressively in my opinion) and then started the argument on whether she bashed men or not...
(More below)

[Vencam]

Things got heated and you all threw some nasty words around (although I think Take Owner got the short end of the stick there) but that's besides the point I want to make.
During all these texts, I couldn't find one where she wasn't trying either to argue her point or try to defend herself against you accusing her of doing this for likes. She may have been rude about it or not completely on point, but I do believe in the sincerity of her wanting to bring forth her point, and not promote herself. In my eyes, you were trying to devalue her motives for writing this, while she was trying to argue her point and reject your propositions about her motives.
In the end, although I don't agree with her views, I do think she was trying to bring them forth fairly, while you tried to attack her motives rather then her points and the conversation took a "Your point is irrelevant becouse you just do this for likes" sort of direction

[Vencam]

On a side note, I hope your niece is old enough for the kind of lenguage that slipped through here and there, Nachos 😅

[Nachowedgie]

If you think I'm saying she's doing it for likes then you're as hopeless as she is and it's pointless talking to you any further as evidently nothing is going in

[Littlemissbrat]

fkn shit dude.

[Littlemissbrat]

Nacho you need to red pill her asap

[Littlemissbrat]

Then this can all end

[myTake Owner]

@Littlemissbrat Whatever. I literally see no further point in arguing this anymore. If I knew that this Take would become so controversial, I wouldn't even consider writing all this sh! t

[Nachowedgie]

Lol she's way too far gone, I don't even think she's in the same reality as us xD

[Littlemissbrat]

For real tho lol

[Vencam]

I used that expression becouse earlier you said that "she lies to people to make herself look better while spinning stories and trying to misinform people". Was I wrong assuming you meant that she created this post with the intention of making herself look better in front of people who shared her view on the matter while taking the chance to spread a few lies in the bigger topic? That is what I was referring to with "doing it for likes" for short.
Please do correct me if I got it wrong as, after all, our difference of opinion on her motives is exactly why I'm arguing with you.
But I agree that this did go on very long, so I understand if you want to drop the subject. But I would still love to try and find a conclusion to this conversation. With the sheer amount of text we produced we could even open a while new question on this particular argument (and I would be willing to help with that)
Please remember that my objective isn't to annoy or unnerve anyone, I just enjoy challenging others opinions and having my own challenged. I apologize if the way I go about it may result in being annoying to you, but that is how I naturally go about things

[Anonymous]

Your concern about women's day is not the real problem; it's a symptom of a much bigger one. Just asking men to not dump on women's day is pointless, until we as a society acknowledge and address the true underlying issue.

It should come as no surprise to anyone that men are becoming so cynical about and angry at women, and so disenfranchised in society. Western society's views of gender issues have become overwhelmingly gynocentric. Men's rights and needs have been ignored for many years, and any attempts to address that have been met with strong resistance and even outright hatred from women's groups, and in fact from women in general.

Concerns about the challenges males face are met with responses like "drink male tears" and "men are trash", and no one even bats an eye at that sexism (imagine how different things would be if those tables were turned).

Males commit suicide at four times the rate of females, and all we do is say how men need to express their feelings more rather than addressing the real issues causing that crisis.

Our public education system is an absolute disaster when it comes to accommodating the needs of boys. The entire education system is designed for girls to succeed and boys to fail, and yet almost no one is even aware of the problem, let alone trying to address it. This is a public crisis in the making but 99.9999% of the public is completely unaware, and the only women who care about it are mothers of boys whose needs are being ignored by a system that is failing them.

Despite the fact that 60% of college students and graduates at every level are now females, the vast majority of gender-specific scholarships and financial aid still go to females and there is zero attention paid to addressing that imbalance. We already know what the response would be if the tables were turned, because many billions of dollars have been spent, and continue to be spent, address the needs of females in education. But when it is males who are in need, we see nothing.

[Opinion Owner]

of females in education. But when it is males who are in need, we see nothing.
From the time they are very young, boys are fed a constant stream of messages that they are bad simply because they were born with a penis, that masculinity is toxic, that they are unnecessary, that all the world problems are caused by men, that the only form of sexism is misogyny, that fathers are unimportant, that they have it easier in life, that their needs are unimportant relative to girls' needs. Boys grow up being told they are privileged while they look around and see all the privileges girls have but no one talks about. Day after day they see tv commercials that portray men as morons and bumbling idiots while painting women as the smart one who clean up men's messes. Why? Because marketers know women control and spend the vast majority of household income so they cater to a women's perspective and ignore men's. In the media women are a protected class while it's always open season on men. No one cares about, or even acknowledges, how all of the above affects the psyche of boys growing up in that sea of sexism.

[Opinion Owner]

When there is any form of sexism against women, society is hyper focused on it. The vast majority of sexism against men, and especially the most harmful varieties, are not even acknowledged as sexism because we have been so conditioned to view sexism as only a problem faced by women that we don't even see all the sexism against men when it is all around us, every day.
I could go on and on with the list of inequities men face but my post is already too long and most people who started reading it have probably already lost interest, because it's not a subject they care about or their pre-conceived biases have turned them off to it. So I will just end by reiterating that the anger and resentment today's men have toward women should not be surprising to anyone who is paying attention. It is only getting worse every day. And frankly, saying "we can start taking men's day into account" sounds woefully disingenuous given the real problem here.
Until society in general, and women in particular, start showing they care about the other half of humanity, women's day will continue to be dragged down the toilet. Until we stop trying to boost women up by dragging men down, men are going to continue getting more bitter and continue caring less and less about women's issues. As it always does, the pendulum has swung way too far, and it takes people way to long to recognize what has happened.

[opnbuk59]

I agree just do away with human days period no women's mens boys girls mother's father's day good bye see you later remain in the history books and something else, why do we such a big deal over, today the first black man landed on the moon or we have the first female chief of police in Los Angeles who cares it's just another human doing a job that humans have done before this is divisive segergates us further I don't care if it was a the first gorilla to perform open heart surgery on a baby well that would be pretty cool gorilla doing open heart surgery but will that be start of planet of the apes all it took was one monkey than can think hope they stopped teaching them to solve problems think like a human dangerous really dangerous probably what dinosaurs said when humans started walking upright, hey hey look at that what what over there they did it figured it out yeah yup know what that means yes sir well we had a long run but we are history guys wanna bet they don't last as long as we did, what's that fire ball in the sky!

[Littlemissbrat]

Women have more rights from what I've seen.

I see disgusting women predatory teachers get off with a slap of the wrist where males do not. I think both scum should be imprisoned for life.

I see women sexually harass males and never ever get in trouble.

I see women bully men into submission and call them all sorts of names but the second a male wants to call a girl a bitch he's the bad guy.

I see women hit men and then get pissed when a man defends himself.

Women abuse their femininity and then want to claim that men have more rights. Fuck on out of here.

[grega239]

Hehehe🤣🤣

[myTake Owner]

And that's a reason to treat men like amazing creatures and women like dishwashers?

[grega239]

Where do you live.
Seriously, what 1st world country treats women like that?

[Littlemissbrat]

I didn't say that asker tf?

[myTake Owner]

Your comment basically supported the idea that men's oppression should be more discussed

[myTake Owner]

@grega239 Just read the comment section of this take, or google "Incels" and "The Red Pill"

[Snakeyes7]

Asker, if you want us to sympathize with you, instead of calling all of us incels try proving us wrong. Let us see the logic behind your arguments.

[grega239]

In know what incels are. Men who can't get girls and cry about it.

The red pill is used to bring attention to the unfair and unjust treatment of men. Because a lot of men are victims of abuse but no on cares.

Women are not oppressed. And haven't been for a long time. Our society celebrates women.

Feminists have absolutely no argument

[myTake Owner]

I don't even know why people are so dang obsessed with your answer. It has literally nothing to do with anything I wrote in the Mytake. I said I want everyone to be equal, and you just attack me with ways in which men are oppressed, like if you wanted men to get more attention

[Littlemissbrat]

Lmao you're just mad they agree with a girl that has brains. Stay mad tho.

[Littlemissbrat]

I love how you're anon and you wanna talk shit. I'm saying to make it equal and quit making everyone about you but please feel free to interpret every comment on here.

[Littlemissbrat]

Everything not everyone * oops

[Nachowedgie]

I actually meant to put the best comment thing here but hey it deserves to be my opinion on this post too :3 cuz it's that good

[Littlemissbrat]

I'm just tired of the fucking feminazis claiming they're for equality and they're fucking not but thank you ♡

[Nachowedgie]

Same here

You're very welcome :3

[Rolando755]

Where the fuck do you live? I'm in the USA and men here are now seen as lower than dogs while women are all "warrior, queens, amazing, goddesses, mothers of the universe".

[Vázquez613]

Well, things are going to start getting bad for women soon because hate breeds more hate. Andrew would have been someone no one cared about ten years ago. But now, so many guys justify his behavior and agree with him.

And see you see roe vs wade was overturned last year. And some men were treated so poorly I don't think they are ever going to want to do anything to help women and would prefer they keep losing rights. It doesn't matter what you say one side is going to take over, and there won't be any mercy.

Once you spread hate, it is just a never-ending cycle. So I just do good things, and I get good things. That is what I do to avoid hatred. You should not worry about stuff you have no control over. You only have a few small things that you can control and focus on so that you will be able to avoid bad things.

Everything is out of your control just leaves it alone, so you don't get mixed up in it.

[ShadowofRegret]

I don't even care about either one, the way I see it, both genders have their issues, trying to say one has it worse or is more "oppressed" than the other is foolish as neither gender knows what the other goes through, that goes for men and women alike.

Men have it bad, women have it bad, end of story, instead of trying to have some sort of victim mentality, it would be better if both worked together to help each other rather than competing to try to say how much worse they have it than the other.

[lightbulb27]

I'm really not sure what this day is about... but why not make something of it rather than gripe?

Why not go visit some women in prison, or help a less fortunate homeless or elderly woman... inflation is crushing a lot of people? Or march in protest to the continued oppression of women in Afghanistan , saudi arabia and such countries? Or offer assistance to Ukranian women that had to flee their country?

That seems a worthy way to celebrate women's day.

Or just hang out with friends and talk.

[Mikemarston30]

I agree women's Day is a day to celebrate women who have fought hard for their rights

To this today I'm always thinking of Rosalind Franklin has the one who discovered DNA instead of Francis crick

I have seen a lot of "feminist" who have taken the opportunity to bash men and find our problems insignificant

I used to think feminism has become bad but I realised it still has the same spark that empowers women but this time their including men as well

I personally do think men don't need a day but I'm willing to go along with it because we do experience sexism and have problems as well

Please don't listen to those incels , they complain about women not fitting the traditional stereotypes when they themselves don't fit the traditional male stereotypes ( being the provider , tough , strong and protective of women )

[grega239]

Women's day is a celebration of womens rights.
It's a celebration of women and to show them that they are special to us.



Rant time.
Yes I guess it is being ruined. mostly by feminists who can't stop talking about oppression and blah blah blah.
Men probably complain about it because that's all we hear.

We have an international men's day. Absolutely no one knows or cares. Not even men.

That being said.
Happy women's day.





Except for feminists... They can go fuck themselves

[IAMNathanael]

I never really gave much thought about it but I suppose just because we celebrate a day for women men, or kids doesn't mean that we're celebrating EVERY aspect about them. There are positives and negatives associated with women (just like with anything else) and this day is a good opportunity to make a special attempt to recognize the positives. Same can be said for men's day. These are justifiable reasons for each holiday I think.

[Robertcw]

Actually I've just realized that 'gold digging' arises out of abusive relationships and financial blackmail.

In fact, I believe all feminism grew from this foundational experience. It's bad.

Going forward, as boys fall behind in college graduation rates the script could actually get reversed in the next 100 years.

[Paris13]

Happy International Woman's day!!! Five Year ago That Day, I finished my Revisions on a Play I had gotten Published on Domestic Violence and then Some., hun!!! I know as the Years have Gone, Lots of Women have been recognized even more now!!! xxoo

[Guy13]

Nice Art work but yes, every Faction must have its Day or Trophy 🏆 Let’s focus on divisive and pandering Politics dividing the Country’s Soul and Heart over love of Self.

This mentality is what a Lenin/Stalin divisive and pandering politic, Engels, Marx, Jung, Freud, and Rogers supporting cast gets you.

[morrowlow]

Here's the gist of the whole passage: If we have 2 candies and those boys get one candy, that means i'll only get one candy when i should be getting all the candies. Grow up and try to be more sensitive to the problems that others face. Just because you don't experience what men face doesn't mean they have no problems and tbh women have it way better these days so if women's day is to remind us of women's problems then it's really pointless because those problems are not too many as opposed to men's.

[myTake Owner]

But that doesn't mean we cannot totally ignore women's problems, neither. You clearly haven't read my whole mytake. You just read "men complain about oppression" and automatically assume that the point of this mytake is to ignore the difficulties men face.

[myTake Owner]

On the internet, both Women's day and Men's day are days used to pay bigger attention to men's problems than women's problems. If you want equality so much, then treat them the same. That's all. This doesn't mean ruining Women's day for us

[morrowlow]

Maybe there's a reason people are making noise about men's day online. Maybe it's because the media has ignored men for so long. Anyway you contradict yourself in your writing. You say men and women can both be celebrated but somewhere else you say that talking about men and their problems is taking attention away from women. So which is it? Can we all be celebrated or not? Because your mytake suggests that remembering men is unfavourable to women

[myTake Owner]

It's not my fault that the internet caused men to get more attention than women. Equality is my wish. But I have no impact on the fact that people are slowly starting to treat women like if they didn't exist anymore

[morrowlow]

Alright you're a troll. "people are slowly starting to treat women like if they didn't exist anymore"
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[myTake Owner]

Well you sound like an incel. As long as someone says something different than "men are awesome and should be respected", you get butthurt and call everyone a troll. Get your woman-hating out of here

[Mikemarston30]

Bro she's merely just bringing awareness to women's problem and we can't ignore that I have seen women help fight the problems men face

We should do the same for women

[morrowlow]

Bullshit. Women are the reason men are facing issues like suicide and parental fraud, etc. Now if a few of them defend men's rights (for their own sake really) it doesn't mean everything is cool. You'll never tell a black guy to be kind to white people because a few white people were abolitionists.

[Mikemarston30]

Heh surprise surprise I do but I bet you say otherwise to a black person who raising awareness of racial profiling

[myTake Owner]

This is just absurd. Most violence directed on men is caused by other men.

[Mikemarston30]

Exactly however I would like note that female victims do get more media attention

Nevertheless yes we are own worst enemy

[Bman4907]

Didn't even know it had happened until I saw this tweet a bunch of times. It's pretty funny actually. Half the population is complaining sexism, but forgets that it's luck of the draw. IWD is every March 8th while DLST is always the 2nd Sunday in March.

[myTake Owner]

What do you mean?

[Bman4907]

For decades, international women's day has been celebrated on March 8th and day light savings has always been the 2nd Sunday in March. This year, the 8th happened to be on the 2nd Sunday of March. Two calender events on one day. International women's day will be on a Monday next year, so the complaint will be that it's the start of the work week or something. The next time these two events over lap will be in 2026.

[Theophain]

I think is sad that to this day woman have to do more just to get the short end of the stick and still be considered a minority.

In stead of rambling about you bias this and bias that:

-Point: appreciation for women is important, if you can't do it please get out of the way we need evolution not negolution.

PS. Don't expect anyone to give you anymore then you give yourself, thems the breaks
Let's make some progress and happy WOMEN'S DAY!!

[MackToday]

Thank the so called "feminists" for that. Too much of this mentality out there and men got fed up. https://hooktube.com/watch?v=NbNazLv_W4k

[myTake Owner]

"MRA News" yeah that explains everything

[MackToday]

Doesn't explain the video just because some MRAs put it up. They didn't make it you know.

[Vencam]

Abhorrent, but I don't think that kind of thing helps explaining your point, not with so few words

[andreasderjuengere]

BOTH days go un-noticed for me.
And similar to all my present and previous surrounding/s.
I don't think, though, that I miss out something important.
Sorry.

[Anonymous]

So in other words you’re saying “stop saying you have it harder” and your reasoning is because “we have it harder.”

Here’s some advice, get over it. As much as you would love to be oppressed, it’s not like that. Get over it and learn to take a joke.

[akihon]

You say it just a celebration of women getting the rights that men have ok then so why celebrate at all given that women have those rights now, why celebrate when women are equal to men, why celebrate something that is now the standard.

[TheLittleInnocent]

I guess I don't know... to remember.. Its like independence why celebrate it if ur country is independent already... to commemorate that u got independence¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[dianagirl]

@TheLittleInnocent Sounds good to me. :)
My gift to you is the free book from Kobo: "Woman to Women". Happy International Women's Day!