Black Lives Matter and what it actually means

[cjgsu]

Okay so if a cause is important enough to someone they should be able to take the time to explain it properly. This is what I am doing now.

So let's break this down first.

It begins with slavery

okay so yes hundreds of years have passed since we had a enslaved person in this country...this is true. That doesn't mean the effects of it doesn't still exist.

This is how it impacts us.

So after slaves were freed little changed for them. Education was a very limited option. So disadvantages still there, many continued to do the jobs they did as a slave because it was all offered but with little or no pay since it was clear they would not be punished by the law if they didn't pay them because the law also still looked upon them as nothing but freed pets.

This continued for a few generations. Education was still the same thing white people went to better schools with better teachers and we were still not allowed the privilege that white people were allowed. Do not eat with them, wash clothes with do not dare speak to them do not have the same education opportunities because they got the teachers that nobody else wanted to teach them.

It was also limited to teaching them just what the government wanted them to learn, which was far less than white people.

As for the housing. They laid out poor excuses in housing that black people were allowed to live in. The food in these areas were less quality than non black communities. So now in America white communities have had generation after generation to continue to grow while we are still kept just 1 step above a slave.

1954 just 66 years the first school allowed blacks to go to their school and have the same quality education as white students. Even still they were harassed by students that did not want them there.

Late 1970's was when the country finally allowed this to happen. Less than 50 years ago or 2 generations ago. They were still harassed and given less attention by many teachers.

While whites had hundreds of years to have unlimited opportunities to become rich follow their dreams freely, just less than 30 years ago we were given the opportunity to even live like white people from 200 years ago. Whether your family took advantage of these opportunities is something you need to discuss with them, not me.

Defunding the police

So one thing the media loves to do is tell all of us how to see everything. This included.

So yes it is true what kapernick said. The original police were slave hunters converted to police. They were weapons for many whites who used them to remind black people where we stand, which was beneath them.

No to this day a small group of white people still do this. They see a innocent black person walking through their neighborhood they call the police claiming they are suspicious. So now here comes the police harassing him. Their thought if they are harassed evertime they come in my neighborhood they will stay out of it. Or in many videos it is seen a kid walking and a Karen begins harassing them and the black person either argues back or ignores them, their response call the police. Again using the police as a weapon to keep us in our place. (Again not all do this)

The police are called to many calls that they are not equipped to handle, what is being asked is not disbanding the police but limiting what calls they go to. Take a portion of the budget and hire more social workers, more therapists and have them either come with the police or handle the situation instead when it is a non life threatening situation.

Why doesn't BLM address black on black crimes

simple answer they do. They have peace walks in high crime communities. They teach the youth about what this does to their community, and teach them the importance of turning in and reporting these criminals. They try to help educate them.

One reason their is crime in the black communities is still a lack of quality food and opportunities in those areas, so BLM has food drives to bring better food to this communities.

The real question is why is this part of the organization not talked about by the media? Because as always they want to control what you know about them.

Police brutality

Now any person of any race that dies is truly sad. But for me the biggest problem becomes what happens after the murder or accidentally death of a black male. Instead of saying we made a mistake and we will figure out what we can do to prevent it.

It becomes it their fault we took his life or went overboard. They sweep it under the rug move problem officers to other areas where they can do it again, and they usual do. It isn't until we have to protest and call them out that they are forced to do something, and usually they put on a show and make up an excuse as to why it was okay to carelessly kill an unarmed black man.

While white men who murder several black people armed and dangerous are taken to jail unharmed. So yes, there comes a time when as a poc you have to feel like does our lives actually matter.

Again we know this is a small portion but when you encourage and enable them to do it that is a problem.

Ahmad Aubery murdered in cold blood by 3 armed white men while jogging. They hop in a truck chase him down and murder him as he tries to defend himself.

Do our lives matter?

The police sweep it under the rug and say stand their ground.

It gets uncovered and protests begin forcing people to do something. Many people first reaction that's his fault for trying to defend himself from three men caring guns aiming at him, and those three men had all the right in the world to make a citizen's arrest on him and also all the right to murder him.

Learn the law neither were right, they never seen him commit a crime, and they initiated the attack and the only life ever in danger was the man who died.

When a black man commits a crime and is murdered by the police the first reaction on the internet is he was a thug and got what he gets. Including Mr. Aubery who never committed a crime and had as clean of a record as could be found.

A white male travels states with an assualt rifle and murders 3 black men, he is made out to be a hero and a protector of this country.

Riots

Again more media manipulation. Yes there is a small group of protesters causing trouble and rioting which is disgusting and bring shame to the black community, because we have people who instead of helping our cause are hurting it. People and media use this to ensure people do not support us asking for equality.

Also what is not talked about by the media is the double standard and some other reasons for riots.

1 riot was started by a white police officer wanted to incite hatred so he masked up and started a riot, many racist white people have traveled across the country just to attack protesters so violence will begin, and play the victim.

Some riots also started by white people as well who decided they are angry about brutality.

This is not acceptable behavior by BLM.

But now double standards. Some Angry frustrated black people allow their emotions to cause riots, violence and burn and loot stores. They are thugs and criminals for their actions.

Riots by white people usually over sports. Their team either win the championship or lose the championship. The same violence and destruction of property occurs, people laugh and joke our they just bunch drunk idiots having fun.

BLM believes in violence

No not true, this is a major movement in the black community. We are fighting for equality. Something this country was supposedly founded on.

So yeah a bunch of lunatics wanna join the cause, example Hawk Newsome. He is a racist idiot. He does not have any affliation with BLM. He tried to be apart of them but his racist hateful ways was rejected by them.

So he opened a group he called Black lives matters new york chapter.

This has no affliation with the real blm and they have over and over again denounced his words and actions. Many groups have popped up throughout the country acting just like him. Again none are with the true blm. However for their own reasons the media keeps trying to make people think they are 1 in the same.

White privilege

Yes it exists. The best part of being privileged is being born raised and to experience it becomes so normal that you begin to think it's not privilege but how it is supposed to be.

When it has been this way for hundreds of years it is even easier for it to seem normal.

It doesn't mean all white people are able have all the opportunities.

But when you had hundreds of years of a system that ensure your on top and everyone else get the scraps. That's the privilege.

When white people have power from this same system and it is just passed to other white people to ensure it stays that way. White privilege.

When Michelle Obama is said not to be a good example of what a first lady should dress like because she wears sleeveless dresses, while Melania trump does the same and we hear nothing. If we earn a postion of power we are overly scrutinized to prove we do not deserve it.

Just last month a bank got in trouble for this.

An interracial couple decides to sell their house.

So a black female request an appraisal of her house.

They come back with a value of 150,000 dollars.

She tells her white husband this does not seem right and he agrees.

One week later he goes and requests the same appraisal from the same bank.

This time the appraisal comes back at 386,000 dollars.

There are many examples of this still happening. We don't make things up just to make white people feel bad. They are still happening.

Conclusion

This country has many great things about it as well as horrible things about it. This country was founded on equality it's what we are fighting for.

We love this country and a lot of times it feels like this country doesn't love us back.

We are trying to help improve this country because we love this country.

[Aniya06]

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[cjgsu]

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[nightdrot]

"Black Lives Matter" is really little more than a group of people following a trendy slogan masquerading as serious thought. Where it is more substantive it tends to the extreme and is not so much the pursuit of justice as the catharsis that comes with seeking vengeance.

Thus for example, Black Lives Matter's recent craze to "defund the police." This is patently self-destructive where it is not simply absurd. Indeed, it was not 30 years ago that African-American community leaders were demanding a stronger police presence in minority communities as crime rates - as a result of the 1960s/70s passion for treating the criminal as a victim rather than a perpetrator - soared.

Indeed, thus how the nation got to its' current fits of moral exhibitionism and self-pity. The increased police presence of the 1980s, 90s and early 2000s brought crime rates down to levels that had not been seen since the peaceful placid 1950s. Now relatively secure and safe, many in those communities began to take their safety for granted and found the means to such safety as intolerably oppressive and racist.

Thus the cries of institutional racism and the theatrical protests in the streets that have now conduced to violence. It is feeling substituting for facts as the data show that, by far, most crime in the African-American community is black on black, that whites are far more likely to suffer police brutality than are black and indeed that in 2019, the last year that full statistics are available, that a grand total of 10 African-Americans were shot by white police officers.

All this against a background where, until the recent pandemic, the unemployment rate among African-Americans had fallen to its' lowest level since statistics for that demographic began to be kept in 1947. This also in a country that had not so long ago elected and re-elected its' first African-American President. A thing that would have been impossible had it depended upon African-American votes alone.

No matter, particularly in a populist age where the common man is fancied the pinnacle of all virtue and where self-pity is at a premium, the conclusion has been drawn that America is irreducibly racist and African-Americans are oppressed - the latter also playing off the virtue and cachet that comes with being classified a victim. This then leading to an extremism that is profoundly silly where it is not profoundly self-destructive.

Thus Black Lives Matter recently called for the abolition of the traditional family. This ignoring the fact that African-American children are, by far, the most likely to be born out of wedlock and raised by single mothers. The social pathologies that flow from that to follow - including higher illiteracy, a greater chance of criminal activity, drug addiction and so on.

Of course, instantly it will be argued that there is racism in America, as the recent Minneapolis episode illustrates. Actually, that is slipshod language. Bigotry there is. Racism, on the other hand, is a schematic ideology and is comparatively rare.

No matter, human beings are imperfect and imperfectible and if the expectation is that there will be no justice or peace until perfect racial harmony is achieved, the wait is apt to be a very long one. Indeed, it will come at the cost of the very social stability that the African-American community needs if it is to overcome the maladies that afflict it and are, by far, the primary source of its' grievances.

So Black Lives Matter is the drivel that is left behind when slogans substitute for thought and emotion replaces analysis. It being further aggravated by a supine culture that prizes moral exhibitionism and "virtue signaling" over the hard work and inevitably imperfect outcomes that will facilitate real social improvement.

[lightbulb27]

There's a lot in what you wrote. I've seen this in the integrated school I grew up in. What I saw was some black people getting away with being junk humans. That includes some non blacks as well. Some did just fine as the did the work, followed the rules. Others failed school, and are in jail, in slums, or dead. Choice... responsibility.

This be the key word I'd like to hear out of BLM going forward. "We take responsiblity for ourselves.
Then BLM can institute a new social contract, since you've determined it is black people.. aka African Americans... Africans are not the problem... African Americans, some subset are. So the new social contract follows some of the Bible or whatever their best wisdom is:
1) I will honor my father and mother
2) I will honor my family
3) I will work to provide food for myself and my family. That means I grow my own food and I learn. Nutrition is who I am and I will teach others.
4) I will learn life skills so that I can
5) I will respect my partner/mate and build strong relationships
6) I will do what I say, honesty and integrity are my core
7) I do not harm other people, but strive to love others

Hav that chiseled on a big pice of stone like the Jews. Or Hindus, or Buddhists, or some African wisdom. This is called taking control of what you can control and responsibility for yourself and your behavior. That will solve 99% of the problems. Don't need any police or social workers after 10 years of strict adherence.

Everything I've seen BLM doing is "other people" focused... e. g. deal with me better by not being so violent, etc.. I don't see that working. Realize, this train wreck of a culture has been careening out of control for a long time.

There are other cultures that have severe problems... like some Chinese, phillipines, etc.. It's all about parents and value systems and environment. There've been a lot of poor "white" people who can't speak of privilege. Stop thinking everyone else is rich and only black people are poor. That's a narrow and false view.

Many have tried to favor and help poor black people. It's very difficult due to human nature. Healing wounds and decades or training, is very very difficult.

[Celtero]

Ask yourself, how does being black negatively affect your life every day? I'm genuinely curious to hear the answer. Only your personal experience please.

And to clear things up...
"A white male travels states with an assualt rifle and murders 3 black men, he is made out to be a hero and a protector of this country."

Are you talking about Kyle Rittenhouse? Because he killed 2 WHITE men and injured a third, all these men were attacking and trying to kill him.

More people died due to the riots and protests than unarmed black men killed by police across multiple years. Many of the cases where police were in the wrong resulted in the officers in prison. Do you think the media reports on these? BLM riots during a pandemic. People are already hurting economically and they decide it's a good time to loot and vandalize. How many people's lives do you think have been ruined in 2020? BLM does far more damage than it does good.

George Floyd was on drugs and resisting arrest. Consider researching the term "excited delirium." Many incidents with black men show that they do not cooperate with police. If I did the same thing as these men I'd also be pushed to the ground and restrained. Luckily, I don't do meth or fentanyl so my life isn't in as much danger.

And you know, I've talked to several cops, and you know what they do now if a violent perpetrator of a crime is black? They let. Them. Go. Is that what you want? Black man rapes a women or beats a child and police look the other way because they don't want to be on national news?

Lastly, look on the pro BLM site, https://mappingpoliceviolence.org/ It has all the details of ~1,000 or so people killed by police this year. You'll notice that 1: Most of the incidents are of people who are not black. 2: Most of the people are armed and already threatened people's lives or killed someone. 3: If you actually manage to find someone unarmed and unjustly killed, you can google the case and see that the officers responsible have likely faced justice and the family received a large cash payout.

[hellionthesagereborn]

Okay so firs off, your basis is incorrect, I'm not saying that to be an asshole, I'm saying that because you cannot fix a problem if you have the wrong daignosis.

1. Slavery did happen, it was quite awful, it also existed in every single society that has ever existed without a single exception. Europeans were enslaved for thousands of years by north Africans (and in greater numbers then blacks who crossed the atlantic) as well as by middle easterners (the Ottoman turks predominantly) as well as on occasion from Asians (Huns mostly), Africans were enslaved by Africans and middle easterners and later by europeans, the chinese were enslaved by the chinese and mongols and tibetans etc. etc. etc. So the claim of "because slavery" is not a very good one.

In fact western society was the first to ban slavery, the US in particular started this process before any other group in fact (Vermont would be the first to ban it in 1792(if memory serves), by 1840(when england had banned it) most of the north had already banned it and we were in a political war between pro slavery groups and abolitionist. So if slavery was the predominant issue we would see significant differences between black communities depending on region but we don't.

As for lack of education, that is not really a reasonable statement, not just because The first black school was created in 1857 prior to the civil war and one of the most famous schools was the Tuskegee University which was founded by Booker T. Washington,
himself having graduated from college himself despite being born a slave (having been born in 1856) but its also an unreasonable claim because education by and large was something only the wealthy did which was only a small fraction of people (historically about 97% of americans (and people in general) were farmers in the 1800s. Higher education was never an option for most of humanity). Even with basic schooling your attendence rate was only about 60%(and most didn't go every day so their schooling was limited).

As for the law after the end of slavery, that is also not entirley accurate. By law, they were equals in all ways, in practice that was different. However this idea that racism was just something that all people took part in is entirely false and why people don't question it is beyond me (have you ever met people? Tell me one thing that every one agrees upon? Now tell me one thing that all people agree upon so much that they were willing to risk tearing their nation apart and went to war over their not agreeing to it? Its not a rational argument but its one that gets repeated so often that no one questions it when they should (those are always the things you should question, the ones that seem so well known that no one ever does)).

A good example of this is the famous letter "a letter from a freed slave to his former master". In short a freed slave made it to a safe non slave region after the civil war. There he was employed fairly by an abolitionist, in fact the letter itself was dictated to the abolitionist by the freed slave (I forget his name its been awhile since I read it but I highly recommend doing so if for no other reason then for the delight of seeing a slave owner get put in his place). If what your saying was true this couldn't have happened. In fact if you look things don't start going down hill for blacks in this regard until about ten years AFTER the civil war ended.

[hellionthesagereborn]

This is when the democrat controled states were allowed back into the union (far to soon in any reasonable persons opinion (refered to as the reconstruction period)). This was a huge problem because the abolitionist states and the confederates both lost massive amounts of their population during the war (the bloodiest war in the history of our country).

This was a problem because while the absolitionists lost people, technically the confederate states GAINED people, through the freeing of the slaves. Once they were allowed back into the union, they had a larger population then the other states and used this to take over the house in congress (which operates based upon population size) which is why the democrats have effectively controlled the house ever since (this is how they got their foot in the door, not necessarily how they maintained it). In fact this is why the three fifths compromise exists (which gets demonized by the left all the time despite it ironically existing to protect blacks not opress them), the abolitionist (eventually becoming the republican party) did not want slavery, however the pro slavery democrats stated that if the absolitionists saw blacks as human beings then they should count towards population. This was a catch 22 were the abolitionists were forced to either say blacks were not people (and renounce their anti slavery stance by default) OR agree and as a result the democrats would run the house and stop any bill that would ever jeapordize slavery for the rest of our nations existence. This resulted in a three fifths compromise where they said they were three fifths of a person not because they believed it but because they couldn't risk democrats controling the house and ensuring that slavery would exist forever.

Then you have the fact that the first self made female millionaire in the US being Madame CJ Walker, a black woman which occured in the 1910s, clearly this isn't what is causing these problems.

[hellionthesagereborn]

As for BLM, if they cared about the black community they would point out that blacks were doing far better across the board in the fifties and it was only when we saw a break down in the black nuclear family that everything began falling apart.

As for police brutality that is also not a thing. In every single incident you can point to (with few exceptions) the suspect was resisting arrest, had a criminal record and/or had a weapon or was trying to take the officers. If you look at the DOJ statistical data you find that out of the 56,300 police incidents that occur a year (on average), only.0002% of them end in violence from the officer and out of those only 4% are questioanble as to whether or not the officer was in the wrong and out of those about 50% are from non white officers. So statisticaly that is insignificant to the point of non existence.

Meanwhile 95% of blacks are killed by other blacks and BLM does not in fact address this, in fact they ignore it. Almost all the donations given to them goes into the higher ups pockets or to democrat politicians (why? If its about black lives mattering why are politicians getting the money, why not the families of victims, why not the community?).

[hellionthesagereborn]

As for white privilege, it doesn't exist. You don't get to claim that white privilege exists without being able to provide evidence for it. Your compared the black first lady to a white first lady (Milania was ripped apart about pretty much everything she ever did so I'm not sure why you think this didn't happen. She was insulted before Trump was even elected, Michelle Obama was treated with a lot more respect (she didn't have her kids threatened for instance or her life threatened)), but ignore the fact that we had a black first lady. You don't get to have a minority man made president of the most powerful country in the world, twice, elected by the ethnic majority (the only nation to have done it once let alone twice) and claim that he is some how oppressed but us poor white people are privileged. That is not a logical argument.

[Bananaman177]

All you have to do is watch one episode of COPS or LivePD and you can see why SOME black people always have such a hard time with police.

A cop comes up to them, just wants to talk, they refuse to listen, refuse to cooperate, immediately cop a major fucking attitude, become belligerent and abusive for absolutely NO reason, and then they start reaching their hands in their pockets and behind their back and wonder why they get fucking shot.

You know what else, anytime you watch those shows, you see a white person acting the same way, the cops treat them just as bad.

I don't know what black parents teach their children about cops, but apparently they teach their kids to not listen, not have any respect, and act like a fucking retard.

And quite frankly, I don't mind when cops kill belligerent black people. If that's how uncivilized you act around a fucking POLICE OFFICER, then what chance do the rest of us have? If you have zero self-control and zero respect for the law, I don't want you alive and able to run around loose on the streets. I want you dead so law-abiding peaceful citizens are safe from you.

I'm tired of being told I need to feel sympathy for violent criminal thugs like Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown and George Floyd. The world is a better place with those filthy animals dead and gone. And their mommas should be ashamed for raising their sons to be criminals, instead of being mad at the poor white cops who have to deal with it every day. If you let your son become a gang-banger, you deserve to go to his funeral and look at him dead in a coffin. You did that to him, not the cops.

[BustyNeedles]

Conjecture, ignorance, victim stance, excuses. You sure generalized a lot. Nothing that is going on has to do with racism towards blacks. It’s black culture that is to blame.
Whites have been oppressed, murdered, raped, and abused for millennia. more whites were enslaved in sub-Saharan Africa than blacks were in the U. S. The Ottoman Empire enslaved whites. The term “slave” comes from the “Slavic“ peoples. (Whites) Eastern Europeans.
White culture teaches independence, strength, not playing the victim, and working your ass off.
Asians, Latinos, Mexicans have all been oppressed. But their culture makes the difference. Read about the history of Asian immigrants to the U. S. Japanese internment camps during WW2. The treatment of the Irish. Employers had signs that said “Irish need not apply”. The Scots and Irish were owned by the Brits.
The (black) race isn’t special or suffered any hardships that any other races haven’t suffered. But those other cultures have overcome. Black culture needs a makeover.

[Kaneki05]

welp apart from most people who died from police brutality are not black people. And there was a girl who was literally shot dead just before George died which was just swept under the rug and people cared more about george who by the way wasn't a innocent girl and was a known criminal who is known for threatening and pointing a guy at baby inside in a pregnant women. Now without mentioning race at all, which one should of got the bigger attention and cause so called movements that turned into riots that just actually hurt the argument? But now we add race and which one didn't?

Believe me i understand racism exists still and yes there will be racist cops. But factually it's hard to miss everything that society is doing wrong with the Blm cause.
Never-mind no one talks about black privilege apart from eminem which yes is a thing, maybe less today not sure no one really brings it up, and eminem dealt with it as a kid. But i am sure both white privilege and black privileges and all the rest all exist sadly.

Also i understand the logic as if you want to be equal not to separate yourself into a Blm and keep yourself as just Human rights matter. Since afterall your just a human, your race shouldn't impact your human rights? So if you want to equal you have to cut out identifying by your race for the cause to be equal.
It's hard to explain but basically we need to get to the point were i look at a flag of black stick men hanging a white stick men or visa versa and just not see the color as any significance. Just people hanging each other. Which would of course be a bad thing we would need to get rid of that flag anyway but the point is the color don't matter.
like a south park episode saying the same thing and it's correct in it's logic.

So anyway i simply believe Human rights matter. and don't see why i would need to say a specific color singling one out or making that mean anything else.

[Steven8000]

I bet you don't say"all diseases matter," when people do cancer awareness month. You are just mad people are saying black lives matter equally to white lives. If you know cancer awareness month doesn't mean there should only be awareness for cancer, than you know what people mean when they say BLM. And if you don't say"Human Lives matter," in response to "Blue Lives matter", it is the same point. I am not black by the way. I am stating how it is.

[Kaneki05]

Actually I do. All diseases indeed matter and your weird for not thinking so.

[Anonymous]

The black family has dissolved. It was string before 1960 but now black men simply do not take care of their “family”, they just make babies and the woman is left to try and raise them with little income, no proper male father figure and a neighborhood full of kids from the same problems. Mile Brown was a thug and the world is better without him. George Floyd was passing fake $20 bills and when being arrested swallow the fentanyl he was carrying which made him susceptible to dying with the police holding him down as they have 10’s of thousands of others.

BLM was taken over by white kids who want socialism and saw the potential for energy in the country using that concept that had been championed by a washed up quarterback looking for relevance that he still hasn’t found.

White Privilege is just an execute to take what has not been earned. They had little and struggled to help me. I worked for everything, since age 12, yes 12 working at a construction site carrying 2 x 4s and more. My parents put everything, energy - money - time - education, into me and I made good on their faith in me. White Privilege is a farce made up to make it okay to steal from people. Expect a real fight on that one.

This is a country where blacks can become millionaires and billionaires. TV stars, Movie Stars, politicians, football players, basketball, music, business executives, entrepreneurs and more. Don’t Detroit the country. Don’t Baltimore the country. Raise quality kids, get educated, work hard and the rest will follow. I will bet an African with English as a second language landed in these shores in the past few years and is getting rich if not already rich. Kids from the worst neighborhoods who apply themselves have as well. Hard work, smart work, over a long time will make one rich. It may even take a generation but then the children get to enjoy the fruits of the parents sacrifice. But many parent won’t.

[jasco]

I have read all of it and yes I agree with what has been said to a extent, you know there were African slave traders right? 2nd I feel like white privilege isn't systemic, I feel like if you have money that came from slavery then that's privilege, however I feel like the U. S do to its past doesn't view white the same way as black people and that's just how people are. Ofc we need to change this. 3rd if what your saying is true about the other BLM groups then why not try to find a way to publicly dethrone those groups. Why is it just you who says these things. Are you gonna help black people who are in prison get a fairer prison sentence and get therapy?

[cjgsu]

They can't publicly dethrone the name immediately it takes time.
There is also wealth privilege, how did whites get the wealth years of white privilege while we were held down and persecuted.

[jasco]

Well you can't say every white person had his money given to him by slavery, lots of white people have earnt it so in short that's not white privilege is it?

[cjgsu]

And i didn't say that. I said opportunities are in place to gain from it and a system that was created for white people.
Some took advantage of it and some did not.

It is white privilege when the system in place was to ensure it is easier for them.
The privilege isn't that they are given money they still have to earn it.

The privilege is the obstacles they have to go through to achieve it is less than poc because of how the system is set up.

Institutions have differences on how they loan start up money to black people.
Companies given the chance will hire a white supervisor over a black if they have equal qualifications.

The media and Hollywood tries to keep us looking uneducated and criminals so that this is how people who do not truly know black Americans only believe this is all black people can offer.
The privilege isn't that u are given everything it is, that you have more opportunities and less obstacles standing in your way.

Think of it like this.
Me and u have a race.
Pretend your white.
So because your white. The person in charge of the race tells u that you get a headstart.
Now i might still be able to beat you but I got to travel 100 feet to get to the finish line, but you have to travel 50 feet.
Because you were born white and just being born white you had some extra things going for you that a black person doesn't have.

[jasco]

Well that's not always true for every white person, you dont know what he/she had to go threw and maybe the white person wasn't as fit as the black person therefore he wouldn't have to worry as much about catching up to the white person same thing goes towards him. Yes I agree that the media is bad in general. Racism does exist for white people as well, not every single white person has privilege of any kind.

[Ryfyle]

@cjgsu Didn't know white people just randomly get checks.

[BustyNeedles]

They worked there asses off

[BustyNeedles]

Wow! You are really brainwashed! You’re not even accurate. It’s all false assumptions and anecdotal.

[jasco]

@BustyNeedles Who are you talking to?

[BustyNeedles]

Not you

[The_Sal]

fuck off with your privilege talk. capitalism is basically either you try to become your best or you stay at the bottom collecting from the hard workers taxes (foodstamps, cash EBT)

[The_Sal]

we all have a chance in America look at how many successful black celebrities we have. most of my favorite actors, actresses, athletes are black! you guys are doing great! if there's privileged it'sblack people that have privilege and talent!!!

[nerdybutlazy]

I love you sis, but I'm wayy too nervous becuase I know how people are on here to look at these comments. Regardless, I'm happy you wrote this. It was beautiful, and I followed the story of that couple, and it's honestly made me worry a bit about my own relationship, I've honestly noticed over the years we can't say we feel we aren't respected becuase society doesn't want to have to respect us, which is embarrassing, saying the least about them

[cjgsu]

Gurl. They can bring the hate 2 me.

It's make me realize how much he need 2 fight 2 be respected.

Look up this name and read about her fight against her high school.

Jordana Codio. I Have so much love and respect for her and i never knew her before this.

She made me so proud she fought against systematic racism in her school and won.
They went after her hard and celebrities and athletes fought with her.💞
Ily 2💞

We will prevail. I believe every generation gets closer and closer to achieving equality.
This generation refuses 2 be silent and i am so proud of us all.

My boyfriend is also white. He's my first interracial relationship and i will not live in fear of people's hate.

If ur love is strong love will beat they hate.

[nerdybutlazy]

Awn thanks, babe, I have my worries now and then, but I'm happy, honestly. It feels good to be treated right and adored regardless of the race of my partner :p

[cjgsu]

I am glad you are, because u deserve to be treated right.

[Gabboo]

fuck off with your bullshit 😂 If black lives mattered, why didn't Sequoria Turner matter? Or david Dorn? Orthe blacks whose businesses were burned down by those animals? And yes, blm is a group of animals. If you bitch and cry over a child abuser and rapist being shot for their stupid fucking actions, but not a black child and elderly man protecting a business, YOU need to rethink yourself.

[Virgo31]

You sound like a complete moron. She addressed rioting in her mytake and you obviously didn’t read it lol. It just shows you didn’t read what she had to say and made assumptions about what she said. Lol 😂

[The_Sal]

@Virgo31 David dorn and that 6yo that got shot to death mattered more than any of them. you idiots seem to care more about rapist drug dealers than innocent 6 year Olds. it's sickening

[Virgo31]

@The_Sal actually I do care more about children than drug dealers. Like the shooting of Tamir Rice. He was a child playing with a nerf gun, and someone called the cops on him. Then he was shot dead by the same cops, when his sister came running over they almost ARRESTED her. It took TWO years for people to get justice for the murder of a black child because the cops said they were justified in killing him. And thanks to BLM it shown new light onto the case making people even more enraged at the fact it took two years for the police officers to get any sentence in jail.

[The_Sal]

@Virgo31 you don't give a shit you're just following what corrupt AL Sharpton tell you.
that man is corrupt to the bone he profits off depressed blacks that have the victim hood mentality. he doesn't give a shit about you. that man has millions and doesn't give a dime to the black community.

[cjgsu]

@Virgo31 this my take wasn't for people that are angry because they can't get pass their hatred to listen.
It was for people who are willing 2 take the time to listen and understand what I'm trying 2 say.
At the end they still disagree i can respect that, but people like her ya need 2 ignore.
They can't see pass their anger to try and understand.
It's either feel how i feel or i hate your guts.
We can't expect them 2 understand

[Dweezil]

@Virgo31. At the time Tamir Rice was shot by police I lived about 10 blocks from where it happened. And the gun he played with was not a Nerf gun but a realistic looking pellet gun.

The neighborhood is drug infested and riddled with gun violence. With in a 5 block radius of my apartment numerus were shot some killed weekly. I'm talking black on black crime.

My point is this. If Tamil wasn't shot by a cop, there was a good chance he would have been shot by one of the local drug boys who felt threaten by some kid waving a gun around. Or, a person with a CCW license could have been walking down the street and felt threatened. That persons response would be to pull his own :-\ out and defend himself.

Don't forget the person who called the cops was black. Knowing how violent the neighborhood is, she didn't stop to ask the kid if he had a toy gun in his had.

[Anonymous]

90% of this Take is very misleading. But I understand where you're coming from.

Note , there has been at least 30 black kids between the ages of 18 months- 12 years that have been murdered by stray bullets this year.(9 unarmed black men were killed in 2019 by cops) I bet 99% of the people who support BLM can't name 2 of those kids, why, BLM is a political organization using black people for $ and votes. Notice all protests stopped after Biden won the election? The Minnesota Fund which raised 32 million for George Floyd gave $200, 000 to help bail protesters out. Then the list of board of directors were removed from the official website when people stated calling them out. Very very interesting.

[Marriedwith2]

Great take! But considering this site is full of Trumptard bigots, you surely must realize that you're just going to get the hypocritical BS cowardly bigots have spewed for centuries.

[cjgsu]

Yeah. I know. And thank you.

But i didn't write 4 them.

They can get angry and attack me.

I just ignore them, but if it helps 1 person who is willing to understand than 1 more person might support.

And so far i had 1 person actually say that.

[The_unknown_memer]

Proud of you for making this MyTake especially in a derailing site like gag.

As a straight asexual white dude, I mostly discuss sexism because that's the only thing that affects me and other men.

I damn well know I'm privileged by race and sexuality.

BLACK LIVES MATTER

[Celtero]

Maybe you're a privileged boy and you feel better about being a spoilt cupcake by dragging down those similar to you?

It's cool to admit you've had it easy, but why assume everyone like you has?

[The_unknown_memer]

@Celtero I highly doubt a cop stopped you because he assumed something about your race.

by the way when I meant privileges I don't mean whites don't have it hard.

I meant from how our society looks at us , we are pretty privileged because no one sees us as an abnormal

[cjgsu]

Thank u @the_unknown_memer💞💞
I'm glad you are open enough to step out and speak about an uncomfortable topic that draws anger from people who refuse to admit/change or listen to other people's side and problems.

[The_unknown_memer]

Sure thing

[Celtero]

Yeah man, thanks for throwing members of your gender and race under the bus so you can sit on your sanctimonious highchair and feel like a good boy.

[cjgsu]

@Celtero shh emotionally stable people who can have a calm and rational conversation are speaking.

[Celtero]

Don't be so stupid, you're the one who interrupted me confronting him. While you're at it, how about you read my actual comment in reply to your take? At the very least, reply to my first question in it.

And no, this isn't a "calm and rational conversation." This is you congratulating each other for being fellow ideologues.

[The_unknown_memer]

@Celtero ok look , from one white man to another , I get why your upset.

People don't like being told that they have been privileged especially when they have worked hard.

It's a normal and understandable reaction.

But there are some things that are just harsh truths

And this is not about ideologies, this about human beings lives who have a different skin colour.

I repeat HUMAN BEINGS LIVES who simply just have different skin colour

Well white privilege does exist , it's an objective fact and has existed for so long and still does today.

When it happens once , it's a chance
When it happens twice , it's a coincidence
When it happens a third time , it's a pattern.

And buddy police brutality and discrimination against black people has happened far more than three times.

It's been going on and on for years.

If the George Floyd and Breonna Taylor incidents dosen't tell you anything about racism , then sorry to say that your part of the problem.

If you don't believe that racism and police brutality against black people exist , then just don't do or say anything you don't understand.

Let people who want a better future for black people do their jobs

[Celtero]

Mate, stop being an ignoramus. How would it have been different if the two you mentioned were white?

"Well, white George Floyd, even though you were caught using counterfeit money, which is a felony, you're free to go on the account of the color of your skin."

And Breanna Taylor? Her boyfriend shot at the cops, protocol dictates they fire back. If they were white would they have only hit the boyfriend somehow? Explain to me where the racism part comes in.

And that isn't even to say these cops in either case are innocent... but racist?

Look at the actual details of the cases. The media ALWAYS leaves out key details. And you can be mad at the protocols, you can be mad at the laws, but just because something bad happens to a black person doesn't automatically make it racism. Same shit happens to white people, if not more, the media just doesn't report it if the victim is white. Remember Daniel Shaver? Dude was on all fours, begging for his life, sobbing, pleading with the officer, and when he went to pull up his falling pants his brains were splattered all over the floor beneath him. Did he forget to activate his white privilege?

[Celtero]

Lastly, no, you don't understand why I'm upset. I'm upset because fools like you and OP are so eager for a moral crusade that you'll willingly become useful idiots for bad political actors and the media they pay. Meanwhile, there are REAL issues that deserve attention. But instead, you're so dumb you feed into these self-righteous, fake, moral masturbation sessions. Do you think anything productive is going to be accomplished when BLM riots and destroys and loots businesses? Are we helping people by defunding police and forcing police chiefs to quit?

I'm upset because people like you represent the fact people would rather make themselves feel good by supporting fake ass sensationalist slacktivism that ultimately does far more damage than it does good, rather than look at real issues. Want to feed the hungry? Shelter the homeless? Stop abuse, neglect and molestation of kids? Hell, even do as little as donate some blood to help people in medical need? Nah, all that shit happens to white people too. Fuck whitey. Let's focus on the 3 black people a year killed by police that the media tells us to be enraged about.

[cjgsu]

@Celtero if i recall he was speaking 2 me when you rudely interrupted us. Unless you wish 2 take credit for writing this mytake and feel he was congratulating you for writing this🤔

so read mytake i already answered ur question.

You think i decided 2 just randomly create this mytake.

a lot of these are representations of what my life is so no i will not circle back around because you refuse 2 accept it.

@the_unknown_memer it's very brave of you to admit such a hard truth and you actually understand that this doesn't mean your life is easy and you have some privilege that gives you less obstacles to be successful.

It's funny how people can admit their is rich privilege because they are not rich and don't want to claim it, but when it's a privilege they have to claim it's fake.

[The_unknown_memer]

@cjgsu sure thing , I understand how it feels when people don't see their privileges.

I know how men felt when talk how some situations patriarchy affects us and that there is such thing as female privileges only to be dismissed.

Same thing with women how they felt when men said there is no such thing as male privileges.

I noticed racism while examining sexism and saw how black people experience the most extreme forms of sexism.

Like how men are viewed as more dangerous and untrustworthy than women. Add race to it , black men are perceived as the most dangerous.

For women , when a woman is assertive and confident, people call her bitchy and rude. Add race to it , black women are perceived as the most bitchy and rude.

That's how I realized white privilege

[cjgsu]

Yes and honestly everything you described has been something society and media has tried 2 keep that way.

I mean when you look at how brainwashed people are.

Men are shamed and considered less manly if he doesn't pee standing up, or likes a certain color doesn't hide his emotions..

Women are considered butch or manly because they play sports or doesn't dress a certain way.

Many black people only know how white people are based off of what they see them portrayed by the news and media.

Many white people only see black people based off of the same thing.

The media knows this and they ensure the easily influenced sees things how they want them to.

The media has a very direct agenda and it is to influence it's audience to see the world how they want it.

Look at fox news and other outlets. Almost all news outlets report on a subject and then you watch fox news and they are angry and have a lot of race baiting and hating reports.

It's no wonder their audience is the sameway. For many this is the only experience they have with other races.

When something or someone comes along refusing to be brainwashed and begins thinking for themselves the media tries to discredit them and make them seem evil.

[The_unknown_memer]

Oh yeah I'm done listening to fox news.

Tucker Carlson, got pissed because Elmo and his friend were discussing how racism is bad and it still exists

It's funny but also sad to see a grown ass man get pissed off because two muppets were discussing about an important issue and why it needs to be dealt with

And bruh look at those 3 dislikes 😂 .

[cjgsu]

Dislikes and anger comes from u hitting a nerve cuz deep down they know u right and really don't want you 2 put it out there.

Wow, how dare a kids show teach children the difference between right and wrong we can't have future generations judging people by their actions instead of their skin color😂

I really enjoyed our conversation, thank you.

[Celtero]

Dude, you guys are intellectual children. Reading the exchange between to you two is like eavesdropping on some middle schoolers at a playground. You are beneath reason, and you support the BLM narrative because it's not too complicated to understand and gives you an emotional high.

[The_unknown_memer]

@Celtero I rather be an intelligent kid tha a dumbass adult

[The_unknown_memer]

*than a*

[Celtero]

lol, you don't even understand my insults.

YOUR INTELLECT IS THAT OF A CHILD'S

[The_unknown_memer]

@Celtero dude you don't even understand basic English , if you read any of my responses and if you have at least two brain cells , you would have understood.

But alas your too self centred to understand

[Celtero]

What's there to understand? The only real evidence you offered were the cases of Floyd and Taylor. I rebutted it, and you just ignored me. And to be fair, it doesn't make it easy to have a proper debate when OP butts in to derail the exchange and fellate you...

So whatever, this is pointless.

Just don't be a shithead and tell me that I have it easy because of my skin color and penis. You don't know what I've been through.

[The_unknown_memer]

@Celtero first of all where the hell did the penis thing come from? We weren't even talking about it

Looks like someone is insecure about doing dong 😂

Any way about those cases even if Floyd and Taylor committed a crime , there was no reason to exercise lethal force. The cop shouldn't have put his knee on Floyd's neck and the other cop shot Breonna while she was in bed.

So I guess using a counterfeit bill and lying on bed is soo dangerous to cops that they felt the need to use lethal force.

Also why are you only bringing up a black person's background when shit like this happens?

Why didn't you provide me any background on Daniel shaver huh?

Also if you know that this also happens to white people ( assuming that it is happening) why are treating it like it is normal for cops to use lethal force whenever they want?

It seems like the only time you care about how police treats people is when black people talk about it.

Even if you think this happens to white people , it's nothing compared to how the cops treat black people.

You just want to shut them up that's all you want.

[cjgsu]

I think is real anger is he is 1 of the brainwashed we talked about and like u said how dare us speak up.

Shut up learn ur place.

Also, he only speaks about police brutality when i talked about far more, but because the news only covers that portion nothing else anyone says matters.

Police brutality is a small portion of what they do.

But here is Americans logic. 911 never forget.

Slavery get over it. Tails of tears get over it.

Someone does America wrong never forget.

When America does wrong get over it especially if it is against POC.

Here's my favorite stop complaining about slavery and let us fly our racist slave promoting traitorous confederate flag because we never got over losing our slaves.

[The_unknown_memer]

Yeah I know I saw a video of a PowerPoint by a guy (forgot his name) that perfectly describes why the Confederate flag is a symbol of racism.

No matter how many white people want to say " it's just a flag it dosen't mean racism" .

I would have agreed with them... if that flag didn't have a history of representing lynching black people and protesting against black people having the same rights as white people.

Too much lives have been ruined and lost so that flag is far from being redeemable.

Also I clearly mentioned that talking about white privilege dosen't mean white people's lives wasn't hard. Celtero missed out that point he is too self centred to read it.

[cjgsu]

@the_unknown_memer he also is proving ur point about keeping us silent.
This is my mytake, and all he has done is complain about me voicing my opinion on the subject as he tries very unsuccessfully i might add to debunk my opinion.

Ig i should shut up and learn my place in his version of America.

[The_unknown_memer]

No matter what we do these people will always find a way to dismiss the real problem of racism.

[cjgsu]

Oh i know, i didn't write this for him.
I wrote for people on the fence who has a open heart.
I had 1 person who read this and said that it helped her 2 understand what we are asking for.
That's what matters.

[The_unknown_memer]

Stay strong , I know it's hard and I can't entirely understand or feel what black people have to go through.

But I support you all , I know you don't need me or my help , but I still support you all

[cjgsu]

Thank you I appreciate that so much

[Solstice777]

Anybody who supports BLM is just a sheep. They want to be a part of the big movement they do not even think about why they are supporting it and they ignore the fact that these people burnt down a Wendys and have been rioting since the summer. Much like the covid cult they know damn well there is no pandemic but since they are liberals they need to virtue signal so you wear your dirty sweaty mask to fill it with bacteria. No original thought one bit.

[The_unknown_memer]

@Solstice777 you slipping away from reality

[Solstice777]

@the_unknown_memer no you are because you let fake news stories dictate how you act in life. You are a sheep who has been programmed and believe that you are smart. You are just indoctrinated and sad.

[The_unknown_memer]

@Solstice777 go back to 4chan please that's where you belong

[Solstice777]

@the_unknown_memer please take the covid vax asap you deserve it

[The_unknown_memer]

@Solstice777 please get the covid 19 virus you deserve it

[Solstice777]

@the_unknown_memer I can't get something that isn't real dumbass but that vaccine will give you cancer in 5 years idiot but you will still beg for it. This is the last time I reply to a moron such as yourself who has no original thought. Fucking liberal piece of trash. You hate your own whiteness.

[The_unknown_memer]

@Solstice777 great your another trump cock sucker , fine you believe whatever shit you feed in 4chan

I'm blocking you , worthless maggot

[Andres77]

Do you know what you call a slave owner in the 21st century in America?
A pimp.

If you're still bitching about what happened and ended over a hundred years ago but doing nothing to stop slavery now then you're a money grubbing sleazy leech that only cares about your own power.

Culture, baby daddies are a curse on your culture. Absent fathers are a cause, Democrat government pushed this for over 50 years now and two parent households are about 70%. Welfare with no incentive to actually ever get a job. THAT, young lady, is the problem.

It's hard out here for a pimp. It won an Oscar in 2005. THAT kind of glorification is a problem.
I don't like Al Sharpton but I agree with him on this. The day after that song won an Oscar he asked "is this what the Black community really wants to portray itself as?".

You are your own worst enemy and blaming others isn't going to fix anything.

[Andres77]

Correction: Single parent households in the black communities are about 70%.
They WERE about 30% before welfare started in the 60's.

[Andres77]

And militant... that means you're willing to take by force what you want. You're gonna have a big surprise since you never built anything and don't know how anything really works. Whining bitching and threatening only clarifies...
You're a leech.

[Imuglyandiknowit]

my grandpa is from puerto rico. he’s partially black, native (taino) and white. he’s black enough to experience anti black racism and he tells me i’m lucky enough to be “white passing.” i always thought he was being hysterical until i looked at other people’s point of views. but thank you for changing my mind about blm and teaching us about it’s actual mission in society.

[cjgsu]

Thank you💞

[Anonymous]

So what is blm doing to fix the problems? Protests have done over 2 billion dollars of damage and 50+ people killed. Something like 10 of those were kids. For example the 6 year old black girl in atlanta. I see nothing about her 9n the blm site. How much money has blm given to the kids family? Have they done anything at all to help the family? When blm did 2 million dollars of damage to Chicago in one night why did blm protest supporting the people who were arrested for causing the damage? There isn't a group in recent history that has done more damage to the black community than blm.

[Ryfyle]

Nice Essay, but you should keep in mind whose donating to your cause. Corporate Support often comes with a price tag, one which will be too much to payback. And for Pro-black Ethnocentric organization, it sure does have a whole lot of white people of it.

https://builtin.com/diversity-inclusion/companies-that-support-black-lives-matter-social-justice

https://www.cnet.com/how-to/companies-donating-black-lives-matter/

[Solstice777]

Black Lived Matter is no different than Antifa or even the KKK. It was created to cause a divide. It is a bunch of BS. That does not mean I don't believe black lives matter of course I do but the whole movement is there to make us fight same as Metoo and all the rest. They want everyone divided.

[SavageGirl101]

The fact that u had to explain what blm means when it’s extremely obvious shows how dumb these people are

[cjgsu]

Well sadly even after explaining many still don't understand.

[SavageGirl101]

Cause they don’t want to so don’t worry about the retarded ones

[cjgsu]

I'm not. I wrote this 4 the open minded people who care about other people's lives.

If you noticed most hateful comments got ignored

[SavageGirl101]

Oooo periodt love your energy 😌

[cjgsu]

Thanks💞

[SavageGirl101]

Yw sis❤️😌