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Should Women have the right to abortion? (Page 3)
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A fetus is not a child, not a person. It has no right to life. It's an unconscious bit of protoplasm. It's not near consciousness until sometime in the 3rd trimester.
So it only becomes human when it pops out its mother's vagina?
Seriously?
Babies are born months premature.
So please name the exact point that the protoplasm you speak of becomes human life?
@NoManToo You are invoking the fallacy of the beard (https://en. wikipedia. org/wiki/Sorites_paradox). There is no exact point, it's a gradual process. But we know that in the first two trimesters the fetus is nowhere near consciousness. There are other legal questions that are similar. We don't know exactly when someone is too drunk to drive, so we make it illegal to drive with a blood alcohol concentration above 0.08%.
So you are using a subjective alcohol limit as an analogy as to when human life becomes human life?
By scientific definition it is human life through out pregnancy.
Let's talk facts.
Then you can argue ethics.
Sure. We should also incentivize it for unmarried couples and for women in danger of becoming single mothers. It gets rid of some unwanted tax sponges, future Criminals, and the genetically defective. I can't imagine a better way to keep a population clean and healthy.
Ironically its been out for a while and people are dirtier and more UNhealthy than ever before, so you are wrong sir.
@sean1234 Well that's because we have yet to enforce it.
Enforce? That sounds like something from a horror flick.
@sean1234 I mean we got lock-downs for the common cold and thought police running around, Eugenic Sterilization is not that far away.
Yea well, the 2ND COMING OF JESUS CHRIST isn't far away either, when the dead rise from the grave, then the living.
@sean1234 I can see pregnant women camping out for day to get shot in the gut if you market it as Infant Green Decolonization. Throw in a couple BLM selfie booths, Get AOC to claim it as a brave and bold, And get it sponsored by Amazon Behind the Scenes. Boom, a investor friendly eugenic option to societies problems.
and yet again, like on my last comment.
They should have the right to have the choice. They also have to be responsible for it. Taking sex and abortion for granted will just cost you the risks of potentially losing your life and even the money cost for it.
Is the thing a thing with humans rights? If so, let's say you suffer a car accident and now are going through a blood transfusion from your sibling who has deadly allergy to something. Do you have the right to take the substance your sibling is allergic to?
Your "statistics" come from pro-life Christian websites. Also, pro-life people only care about the baby until it exists the vagina. You're probably against welfare programs for children and paying for pre-natal care.
T-CELLS fight off diseases. From the T-CELLS point of view, the baby is a disease a FOREIGN body, which makes abortion... MURDER!!! Of course the fetus fights off the T-cells. I believe I heard that from a 7th Day Adventist. ALL SCIENCE!!! :)
@sean1234 murder is defined as the unlawful killing of a human. So if abortion is legal then it's not murder.
Legal? According to who? Yeah, the lawmakers that made abortion legal are murderers and should all be executed. Then again, this world is in SIN, so what else is new?
@sean1234 it's legal according to anybody with a thinking brain who isn't a religious nut with emotions.
Are you a North Korean politician or something?
@sean1234 another gay little response
In North Korea, all so called "Religious Nuts"... as in Christians get executed.
@sean1234 sounds like a good idea
oh? why?
It's a messy subject and way to politicized it many countries especially the US. In my opinion, it's very simple. It's the womans body and therefore she gets to choose what happens to her. It is nobody's business but hers. Anything else is self serving to other individuals or groups.
Where was my rights to my body when it came to signing up for selective service aka pre-draft? Where is my rights when it comes to not wearing a mask?
I don't know where you live but where I'm from, health legislation trumps human rights when it comes to protecting life. In my opinion if your one of those anti masters that feels there rights are more important then preventing g people from dying then I hope you become one of the casualties to save others.
Where I'm from we have the constitution that gives me the right to govern over my own well being:
Title 18 USC Section 242.
Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or to different punishments, pains, or penalties, on account of such person being an alien, or by reason of his color, or race, than are prescribed for the punishment of citizens, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if bodily injury results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.
And that is why the COVID death toll in the US is so high. Too many people think of themselves and their rights over protecting the whole population.
Mostly no. If the fetus is weak and beta then it will result in a miscarriage and it should be discarded. However if the seed of the man was strong then the fetus will be alpha and should be born. A good alpha male fetus should not be aborted, only a weak beta male dying fetus should be discarded, one that has already died and failed to be born.
I don't get into the minefield of the legality of abortion. I will only say that abortion is immoral and amounts to murder ("Thou shalt not kill."-Exodus 20:13).
I do believe they should have the right to abortion.
I also say, if you can put something in a freezer at -180 celcius and it doesn't die? IT'S NOT A BABY.
I personally don’t agree with abortion however that’s me I do think each individual woman has the right to decide for themselves I couldn’t live with it if I had one but as I say that’s me personally and I don’t have the right to speak for all women
I believe if you get raped or the pregnancy/labor can cause death, then have an abortion. I am Catholic and sometimes abortions are needed.
I think it depends on a the situation. For example if you are a teenage single mother than it will probably be harder for you to support your baby plus you have your whole life ahead of you. So I think abortion should be allowed.
How about should a depression come and there's mass unemployment. At that point it would be harder to support yourself. And at that point, should you be aborted too? Think about that.
Ofc we should the fetus is literally in our body so we make the decision I don't know why this is still under discussion 🤣🤣
Because it isn't so crystal clear for some. Legally, I agree abortion should be legal but I don't think it's right. The fetus has a right to it's own body, it's not a parasite, it's a human being that didn't consent to getting aborted.
When the fetus can speak then it can decide 💀🤚 until then it’s the mothers decision and hers only
And the money is literally in my pocket, yet somehow I'm supposed to pay for women's mistakes either through taxes or child support.
@apimpnamedslickback ok? Good for you💀
female agency! What a joke!
Ok? 👏
Children can't speak until 1+ years of age. So should the mother be allowed to murder her 1 year old child because it can't speak, therefore can't say no to being murdered?
Obviously, I mean it's their body and they want to do with it it's their choice. Also don't put like murder, god, or any ridiculous stupid bullcrap. Don't go so overemotional over a kid that isn't even born yet.
yeah, some one who's only 18 must understand life, god and murder. NOT
@Abtraction bitch I lived through fucking depressing and terrifying shit in my life so don't tell me that I do not understand life.
yeah, over emotional female. convincing...
@Abtraction... some people are overemotional correct but some are over the top. Also, do you know what I had to live through my existence to get here? It's always so funny how people don't even know a person and they always have something to big to say about them.
@Abtraction I am only 23 but sometime abortion is called for. I am Catholic and the catholic church supported me when I had my abortion, as it was through sexual assault. I was gonna keep the baby and put it up for adoption, but the doctor told me with my stress level it the baby was not likely going to survive, plus I have severe epilepsy and on medication, the doctor told me I CAN'T deliver or I would not make it.
@Abtraction Well it isn't worth the mom dying either if it is through rape.
@Abtraction I mean REAL rape not false accusations, as many women lie, but the ones who are telling the truth!
@Abtraction For me it WAS not for convenience it was for life and death of myself. And like they said the baby had only a 10% chance of either being born alive or healthy.
@Abtraction Also who are you to judge, you do not know everyone's reasoning the doctors would know how the birth would turn out. Also with amniocentesis how the kids health is. NOT YOU! STFU
@Laciandmaci I would have been brave, and had the baby. I'm not a coward
Like I said even the priest agreed.
@Laciandmaci so much faith in god, NOT
@Laciandmaci FYI, I raised a son from rape. He's grown to be a very special man.
@Abtraction When the doctor says I have 0 chance I am not risking it, even the priests told me not to risk it. And also if you are religious you wouldn't treat people like crap.
@Abtraction I reported you along with several others, plus I am blocking you.
@Laciandmaci aww
@Laciandmaci coward
My personal view and opinion she has right to choose.
Under extreme circumstances such as rape and serious health issues, it would be totally right, proper and ethical for any woman to make this decision.
I say yes because bring a child of sexual assault or a baby of drug addiction is literally bringing a pre-ruined life into the world where they will just suffer till death.
Why would the new life be ruined up on birth? it could be given up for adoption and raised in a good home. There is currently a 2 to 3 year waiting list for newborns to be adopted.
If the mother is on certain drugs the baby can also become an addict. Thus when they are born the can have withdraw severe enough to kill a newborn.
Every human suffers regardless of sexual assault or not. There's people that were never sexually assaulted on drugs and alcohol. God explicitly says in the 10 commandments (They Shall Not Murder).
You can take you 10 bullshits and shove them up your ass buddy. This is the internet not a fucking church, no one gives a shit.
Sounds like truth greatly offends you, doesn't it? And yet you have a name as EyesOfGod, sounds like mockery to me.
@ThisAndThat
So if a mother of a 5 year old falls on hard times and the kid has a shitty life all of a sudden are you saying the mother should have the legal right to kill her 5 year old so he won't have to suffer the rest of his life?
Now that is some fucked up logic.
@NoManToo Indeed the communist indoctrinated become so very obviously clear to logical thinkers. The thought that someone could make those same decisions not only for a 5 year old, but over their own destiny or the destiny of their loved ones never even enters their minds.
This idiot doesn't know the difference between a fetus and a live human. Leave him alone.
What do you think a fetus is? A potato? A rock? What? Jeremiah 1:5 “Before I formed you in the womb I knew[a] you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.”
You have been indoctrinated with Marxism.
No I think it's better to put it up for adoption instead
and adoptions, why are they not easy OH and to boot you have to PAY for them like SLAVES! Bing. com>>> How much does it cost to adopt a baby from the US?![Should Women have the right to abortion?]()
Domestic adoption. Adopting a baby from the U. S. is typically pricey. For example, parents who contract through an agency may pay between $20,000 and $45,000, according to the Child Welfare Information Gateway from the U. S. Department of Health and Human Services.
Yes. We are the only ones with the right to determine it.
And you're the only ones who should bear the financial responsibilities.
No dip Sherlock. I have been for mine, and the shit isn’t cheap. $500 a pop up here
I would never respect a woman or man who encourages abortion. It's disgusting.