@WrestlingHero01 Isaiah 5:20-21 20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
Religious theocrats trying to use religion to objectify women is a bit 18th century. You're welcome to evolve with the rest of us.
Murder requires the killing of another human being to be A) illegal B) to be premeditated & C) to not have any circumstantial factors, for example killing in defense of ones or someone else's autonomy.
Abortion is not A) illegal and before you go and yell about how slavery was legal once, yes sure but it doesn't meet C) either. Removing someone from your body even if it kills them is not murder. You have the right to do that.
@WrestlingHero01 I go by the word of my creator and Savior. His law is above all law and his law isn't man's law. Under your law aka man's law, legalizing murder won't end with babies. Ever heard of eugenicist? Yeah let that sink in.
So you go by a bronze aged book where you worship your imaginary friend who himself committed genocide multiple times in his own book. Move to saudi arabia if you're going to try to use religion to oppress women.
No religion proposes a lord and savior and not not even christianity. A firefighter isn't a savior if he's the one threatening you with fire to begin with. Know your place theocrat.
@WrestlingHero01 Acts 4:10-12 et it be known to you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead, by Him this man stands here before you whole. This is the "stone which was rejected by you builders, which has become the chief cornerstone." Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved."
@WrestlingHero01 Romans 10 10 Brothers,[a] my heart's desire and prayer to God for them is that they may be saved. 2 For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. 3 For, being ignorant of the righteousness of God, and seeking to establish their own, they did not submit to God's righteousness. 4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.[b] The Message of Salvation to All
@WrestlingHero01 5 For Moses writes about the righteousness that is based on the law, that the person who does the commandments shall live by them. 6 But the righteousness based on faith says, “Do not say in your heart, ‘Who will ascend into heaven?’” (that is, to bring Christ down) 7 “or ‘Who will descend into the abyss?’” (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead). 8 But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart” (that is, the word of faith that we proclaim); 9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
@WrestlingHero01 10 For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved. 11 For the Scripture says, “Everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame.” 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, bestowing his riches on all who call on him. 13 For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”
14 How then will they call on him in whom they have not believed? And how are they to believe in him of whom they have never heard?[c] And how are they to hear without someone preaching? 15 And how are they to preach unless they are sent? As it is written, “How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the good news!” 16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Isaiah says, “Lord, who has believed what he has heard from us?” 17 So faith comes from hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ.
18 But I ask, have they not heard? Indeed they have, for
“Their voice has gone out to all the earth, and their words to the ends of the world.”
19 But I ask, did Israel not understand? First Moses says,
“I will make you jealous of those who are not a nation; with a foolish nation I will make you angry.”
20 Then Isaiah is so bold as to say,
“I have been found by those who did not seek me; I have shown myself to those who did not ask for me.”
21 But of Israel he says, “All day long I have held out my hands to a disobedient and contrary people.”
I agree with you. But not being a woman, I can’t say that you should carry, when it is none of your choice in the first place. Especially from a violent assaultive event. BUT I can say without a doubt that if you make the choice to have sex and get pregnant, it is much different.
Google the Dred Scott decision of 1857. I won't go into all the details here for the sake of brevity.
It basically said that a freed black man did not have the same rights as a citizen of the United States as defined by the Constitution. According to Constitutional scholars that was a sound decision based on the Constitution was written.
Roe v. Wade on the other hand is still debated by Constitutional scholars as to what wording of the Constitution made it a valid decision.
So please. Show me the wording in the Constitution that validates abortion rights.
T-CELLS fight off diseases. From the T-CELLS point of view, the baby is a disease a FOREIGN body, which makes abortion... MURDER!!! Of course the fetus fights off the T-cells.
@mrkdvsn getting raped myself and having a medical condition where the doctor told me I would die if I delivered adoption is not possible there go to hell! I wanted to put it up for adoption but it was life or death, asshole, don't make smart ass comments keep your damned mouth shut please
yes many women lie but not all @ThisAndThat stop assuming EVERY woman lies, maybe you or your loved on should get raped and I will call you a liar asshole.
@Laciandmaci Well let's see. There's regret rape, she changes her mind after the fact maybe due to her entrapment scheme not working out not being able to entrap Mr. Gold Pockets. Then there the case where she comes on to the entire ball team, then accuses them of rape later. There's also the case where she likes to date bad boys, until she ends up with the wrong bad boy. There's also the case where rape legitimately happens (RARE), except for prisons where it's mostly men. And then of course there is the famous divorce rape strategy where she accuses him of rape among other things to get the upper hand and claim all his possessions including robbing him of his right to see his own children. How about you? There must be a linked article of your incident somewhere to support your claim. Did you file a police report?
Also I never had a boyfriend as I never wanted one. Also there was an ad in the local paper where he admitted he abducted and raped me. He told the cops, plus they saw it on video, from a gas stations surveillance cameras. So STOP assuming ALL girls lie most do yes, but NOT all, I hope you have a daughter and she experiences what I went through, would you tell her she is lying or deserved it? Guess what pay back is a bitch! I am still in therapy due to this.
@Laciandmaci Once again, do you have a link to support it? And yes I get where you're coming from. I had two girlfriends though and I was sorry I ever did. Which is why I'm now a 34 year MGTOW Monk.
@ThisAndThat I know the news paper link but you do not know me I do not know you, so it is non of your damned business! The cops knows the truth, the jury, judges, DA, and ADA. Who the hell are you to want a link to my personal business and trauma!
@Laciandmaci In case you haven't noticed, you are the one that begin airing your personal business and it's to serve your agenda if you ask me. Too many females are liars and I'm not talking your word for any of it because you have no proof.
I don't remember exactly but after a certain time in pregnancy the fetus is considered an Alive human being. So I'd agree with abortion before that. I don't like abortions but sometimes the situation requires you to.
Stfu you stupid idiot. I did not say that plants ain't living things. You prove nothing here. By the way Plants do not have the same signs of life like animals and human and what you do is whataboutism, fucktard. And you prove nothing. Then dont also eat plants you stupid cunt by your logic, if you call yourself pro LIFER and think plants are living things like humans. You just prove nothing, just show your fucked up stupid logic of being a so called pro life. So your logic is the fucked up one. I just said i can understand vegan pro lifer, does not mean i agree with their logic. I personally think no human can be pro lifer, if you eat meat or plants but vegan pro lifer makes more sense. Now fuck off
Totally. I don't think that we have a right to decide this cuz it's HER decision. And also the father's. I don't believe that a fetus is an "exact" human. So...
Its not her choice, the T-CELLS fight off diseases. From the T-CELLS point of view, the baby is a disease a FOREIGN body, which makes abortion... MURDER!!! Of course the fetus fights off the T-cells.
@sean1234 1 or 2? Nearly 11 million children are living in poverty in America, In the United States, more than 7,000 children are abandoned each year. There are an estimated 100,000 to 150,000 child sex workers in the U. S.
Then ABOLISH the Government... PROBLEM SOLVED!!! The government regardless of whos so called "in charge", lol is the cause of the poverty... ON PURPOSE! Like I said lets not MURDER MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of INNOCENT BABIES because of evil government/s!!!
Actually a woman who kills her baby has ultimately destined here destiny to a place called hell. While an aborted child ultimately ends up going straight to Heaven. Fill Heaven up ladies. GODS BODY , your choice , your destiny.
I don't care if women want to abort their unborn children, but I hate it when people pretend that abortion is not murder, or when feminist idiots claim they're proud of getting abortions.
YES!! Women deserve the right to say "yes" or "no". I mean, men always (well, some men), make the calls and stuff. For us, it'll feel good to actually have a say in something for once.
Dead babies all go to Heaven , while the demons that embodied the mother will avenge her constantly as her life continues til she's insane. Demons embody a soul to rob, destroy and kill.
@Abtraction Today's women who can give up a potential children without a second thought have no remorse. Complete and total scumbags who should learn how to keep their thighs closed.
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Women should have the right to an abortion.
and if you disagree I don’t care. Your opinion if you are against abortion is irrelevant. Just don’t get one.
If I have the right to murder anyone I choose then yes
Thank you!
No, murder is murder rather it's called abortion or not.
Yeah no, abortion isn't murder but calling it so makes you complicit in murder.
@WrestlingHero01 Isaiah 5:20-21 20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
https://legaldictionary.net/murder/
Religious theocrats trying to use religion to objectify women is a bit 18th century. You're welcome to evolve with the rest of us.
Murder requires the killing of another human being to be
A) illegal
B) to be premeditated
& C) to not have any circumstantial factors, for example killing in defense of ones or someone else's autonomy.
Abortion is not A) illegal and before you go and yell about how slavery was legal once, yes sure but it doesn't meet C) either. Removing someone from your body even if it kills them is not murder. You have the right to do that.
@WrestlingHero01 I go by the word of my creator and Savior. His law is above all law and his law isn't man's law. Under your law aka man's law, legalizing murder won't end with babies. Ever heard of eugenicist? Yeah let that sink in.
So you go by a bronze aged book where you worship your imaginary friend who himself committed genocide multiple times in his own book. Move to saudi arabia if you're going to try to use religion to oppress women.
@WrestlingHero01 So according to you my Lord and Savior is my imagination. I don't need a useful idiot's advice, no thank you.
No religion proposes a lord and savior and not not even christianity. A firefighter isn't a savior if he's the one threatening you with fire to begin with. Know your place theocrat.
@WrestlingHero01 Acts 4:10-12 et it be known to you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead, by Him this man stands here before you whole. This is the "stone which was rejected by you builders, which has become the chief cornerstone." Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved."
@WrestlingHero01 Romans 10 10 Brothers,[a] my heart's desire and prayer to God for them is that they may be saved. 2 For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. 3 For, being ignorant of the righteousness of God, and seeking to establish their own, they did not submit to God's righteousness. 4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.[b]
The Message of Salvation to All
@WrestlingHero01 5 For Moses writes about the righteousness that is based on the law, that the person who does the commandments shall live by them. 6 But the righteousness based on faith says, “Do not say in your heart, ‘Who will ascend into heaven?’” (that is, to bring Christ down) 7 “or ‘Who will descend into the abyss?’” (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead). 8 But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart” (that is, the word of faith that we proclaim); 9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
@WrestlingHero01 10 For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved. 11 For the Scripture says, “Everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame.” 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, bestowing his riches on all who call on him. 13 For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”
14 How then will they call on him in whom they have not believed? And how are they to believe in him of whom they have never heard?[c] And how are they to hear without someone preaching? 15 And how are they to preach unless they are sent? As it is written, “How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the good news!” 16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Isaiah says, “Lord, who has believed what he has heard from us?” 17 So faith comes from hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ.
18 But I ask, have they not heard? Indeed they have, for
“Their voice has gone out to all the earth,
and their words to the ends of the world.”
19 But I ask, did Israel not understand? First Moses says,
“I will make you jealous of those who are not a nation;
with a foolish nation I will make you angry.”
20 Then Isaiah is so bold as to say,
“I have been found by those who did not seek me;
I have shown myself to those who did not ask for me.”
21 But of Israel he says, “All day long I have held out my hands to a disobedient and contrary people.”
Only in the case of incest, rape, or the life of the mother... Of which only 0.05% of current abortions are performed for.
Why then? Killing an innocent life isn't going to undo the crime committed against the mother?
I agree with you. But not being a woman, I can’t say that you should carry, when it is none of your choice in the first place. Especially from a violent assaultive event. BUT I can say without a doubt that if you make the choice to have sex and get pregnant, it is much different.
why condemn a life because of the actions of others?
99% of all abortions occur within first trimester: when it’s a bean with no “life response”...
"No life response"?
The fuck does that mean?
@NoManToo your britannica definition.
A bean with no life?
The fact does that even refer to?
@NoManToo it means I couldn’t care less for a bean sized fetus.
It appears you do care.
@NoManToo I care about women keeping their constructional rights.
Where in the Constitution does it say abortion is a right?
@NoManToo Roe V Wade dummy.
@OddBeMe Okay. Let's talk Supreme court decisions.
Google the Dred Scott decision of 1857. I won't go into all the details here for the sake of brevity.
It basically said that a freed black man did not have the same rights as a citizen of the United States as defined by the Constitution.
According to Constitutional scholars that was a sound decision based on the Constitution was written.
Roe v. Wade on the other hand is still debated by Constitutional scholars as to what wording of the Constitution made it a valid decision.
So please. Show me the wording in the Constitution that validates abortion rights.
T-CELLS fight off diseases. From the T-CELLS point of view, the baby is a disease a FOREIGN body, which makes abortion... MURDER!!! Of course the fetus fights off the T-cells.
@sean1234 Every month women murder their “unborn” - god I hate that word.
@NoManToo Fourteenth amendment apparently. Roe decision said women have that right constitutionally.
I dont follow amendments, I follow Commandments. Thou shalt not kill. When Jesus Comes, there will be no more Roe vs wade or any other ideas of satan.
@sean1234 Bet you support capital punishment
Capital punishment... sounds like over taxation when you think about it another way.
@sean1234 great dodge
I didn't read any of this, but NO. Women don't have the right to murder their unborn babies
if it was through rape I believe they do.
@Laciandmaci Then it would still not be the unborn baby's fault. Adoption is always a possibility
@Laciandmaci Excluding false accusations and claims, how many times are women actually raped? Rape is just an excuse to keep the murder going.
@mrkdvsn getting raped myself and having a medical condition where the doctor told me I would die if I delivered adoption is not possible there go to hell! I wanted to put it up for adoption but it was life or death, asshole, don't make smart ass comments keep your damned mouth shut please
@ThisAndThat I got raped with DNA evidence and surgery was needed, GTH
yes many women lie but not all @ThisAndThat stop assuming EVERY woman lies, maybe you or your loved on should get raped and I will call you a liar asshole.
@Laciandmaci Well let's see. There's regret rape, she changes her mind after the fact maybe due to her entrapment scheme not working out not being able to entrap Mr. Gold Pockets. Then there the case where she comes on to the entire ball team, then accuses them of rape later. There's also the case where she likes to date bad boys, until she ends up with the wrong bad boy. There's also the case where rape legitimately happens (RARE), except for prisons where it's mostly men. And then of course there is the famous divorce rape strategy where she accuses him of rape among other things to get the upper hand and claim all his possessions including robbing him of his right to see his own children.
How about you? There must be a linked article of your incident somewhere to support your claim. Did you file a police report?
https://www.bitchute.com/video/2xeZcl7clQs/
https://www.bitchute.com/video/qSEe--yGkq4/
I am not your preferred gullible soyboy chad.
@ThisAndThat When you get pulled into a car by a stranger and drugged (happened to me) that IS NOT regret rape. Go to hell!
Also I never had a boyfriend as I never wanted one. Also there was an ad in the local paper where he admitted he abducted and raped me. He told the cops, plus they saw it on video, from a gas stations surveillance cameras. So STOP assuming ALL girls lie most do yes, but NOT all, I hope you have a daughter and she experiences what I went through, would you tell her she is lying or deserved it? Guess what pay back is a bitch! I am still in therapy due to this.
@Laciandmaci Once again, do you have a link to support it? And yes I get where you're coming from. I had two girlfriends though and I was sorry I ever did. Which is why I'm now a 34 year MGTOW Monk.
@ThisAndThat I know the news paper link but you do not know me I do not know you, so it is non of your damned business! The cops knows the truth, the jury, judges, DA, and ADA. Who the hell are you to want a link to my personal business and trauma!
@Laciandmaci In case you haven't noticed, you are the one that begin airing your personal business and it's to serve your agenda if you ask me. Too many females are liars and I'm not talking your word for any of it because you have no proof.
I don't remember exactly but after a certain time in pregnancy the fetus is considered an Alive human being. So I'd agree with abortion before that. I don't like abortions but sometimes the situation requires you to.
If there situation dictates no kid, than don't get pregnant.
Problem solved.
I only understand vegan pro lifer. Dont call yourself pro lifer, if you eat meat. I personally support the right of abortion
I also dont think it is a life in the first trimester
So if you are a vegan you still eat living things dumbass!!!
So your logic is fucked up!!!
Stfu you stupid idiot. I did not say that plants ain't living things. You prove nothing here. By the way Plants do not have the same signs of life like animals and human and what you do is whataboutism, fucktard. And you prove nothing. Then dont also eat plants you stupid cunt by your logic, if you call yourself pro LIFER and think plants are living things like humans. You just prove nothing, just show your fucked up stupid logic of being a so called pro life. So your logic is the fucked up one. I just said i can understand vegan pro lifer, does not mean i agree with their logic. I personally think no human can be pro lifer, if you eat meat or plants but vegan pro lifer makes more sense. Now fuck off
No. Even the logic behind the case is completely flawed.
Explain, what do you mean?
The case determination is that a woman's privacy is more important than a human life. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdHgIspyoJ8
Cowards: @HawkPerception
Totally. I don't think that we have a right to decide this cuz it's HER decision. And also the father's. I don't believe that a fetus is an "exact" human. So...
I think it should always be the pregnant woman's choice on whether to keep the baby or not.
Its not her choice, the T-CELLS fight off diseases. From the T-CELLS point of view, the baby is a disease a FOREIGN body, which makes abortion... MURDER!!! Of course the fetus fights off the T-cells.
@sean1234 its still the woman's choice to carry the baby to term. Abortions are better than kids living in crack houses.
Lets NOT murder millions and MILLIONS of babies because 1 or 2 here and there are living in crack houses.
@sean1234 1 or 2? Nearly 11 million children are living in poverty in America, In the United States, more than 7,000 children are abandoned each year. There are an estimated 100,000 to 150,000 child sex workers in the U. S.
Then ABOLISH the Government... PROBLEM SOLVED!!! The government regardless of whos so called "in charge", lol is the cause of the poverty... ON PURPOSE! Like I said lets not MURDER MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of INNOCENT BABIES because of evil government/s!!!
@sean1234 Cool, no one is talking about murdering babies in crackhouses sean.
@WrestlingHero01 Not me anyways.
Yes. I don't like the idea of having an abortion but at the end of the day:
My body, my decision!!!
Actually a woman who kills her baby has ultimately destined here destiny to a place called hell. While an aborted child ultimately ends up going straight to Heaven. Fill Heaven up ladies. GODS BODY , your choice , your destiny.
IMHO, whether one is for or against abortion, it should be available to those that freely opt to have one.
I don't care if women want to abort their unborn children, but I hate it when people pretend that abortion is not murder, or when feminist idiots claim they're proud of getting abortions.
It isn't murder, by the very definition of the word.
YES!! Women deserve the right to say "yes" or "no". I mean, men always (well, some men), make the calls and stuff. For us, it'll feel good to actually have a say in something for once.
its their body
what right has any to say what someone can or cannot do with their body
Its not their body though, its their babies body.
@sean1234
its only men that want to make abortion illegal
its not your fucking body
I know, its their babies body not their moms or mine OR yours.
I heard that the dead babies will follow mom for the rest of her life. And sometimes they will revenge her by making her crazy.
Dead babies all go to Heaven , while the demons that embodied the mother will avenge her constantly as her life continues til she's insane. Demons embody a soul to rob, destroy and kill.
yes the emotion regret is forever, also the future chance to get pregnant can be affected.
@Abtraction Today's women who can give up a potential children without a second thought have no remorse. Complete and total scumbags who should learn how to keep their thighs closed.
Since murdering a pregnant woman is still legally considered to be double-homicide, no
White women want the freedom, black women get the extermination
If they wanna be whores I guess so but they could also just get their tubes tied.