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Sure , be our guest. Men don't posses the power of wrath , only GOD himself does.
Absolutely they will face the wrath of God, it's clearly written in Isaiah 26:21 - For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.
Only if men have the right to opt out rights to children, not before
I don't think the government should deal with matters of the family if that what you mean. However, I think men, if the sex was consensual, have a responsibility to help care for the child and the pregnant woman. societally, I think the community have a responsibility onto each other. at least to give to charity if possible.
Well I think the woman should have responsibility too
Fair, I don't disagree. It's the woman's responsibility if it was consensual too. I don't think she should abort the fetus without discussing it with the guy as you see many women having abortion behind their boyfriend's/husband's backs
They always have it. It should be affirmed by society.
Yes the should have a right to it
Your body, your choice
Also your eternal spot in hell
Murder is murder.
I don't like murder.
Abortion isn't murder so nice irrelevant opinion.
@WrestlingHero01 Hmmmm - Let's do some math. Pregnant lady gets killed by the bad guy (or gal- we have to be unbiased). Bad guy/gal is guilty of TWO - count them one, TWO - homicides. Killing unborn baby is murder- premeditated- first degree. Even the bad guy might get off with 2nd or 3rd degree!
If a pregnant person consents to someone being inside of her and someone kills them, they're guilty of murder. If a pregnant person has someone inside them against her will, that pregnant person just like anyone else facing that situation is entitled to take any action to remove that person from their body.
Consent makes the difference.
@WrestlingHero01 Hmmm - consent makes killing OK? Try THAT defense at your next trial!
Yes, this is why it's legal to kill rapists. You have the right to remove anyone from your body who is inside of you without your active consent even if it kills them. Seems like women need to be very careful around you.
@WrestlingHero01 Self-defense has a bit of a difference in definition from that of pre-meditated murder.
They do. Dont make taxpayers pay for it
No. Abortion is murder.
I agree, but shouldn't the woman (or parents, if the sex was consensual) have the choice to abort it without the government telling them so? Especially if the pregnancy is risky?
No, not at all.
Why? could you develop your point?
I agree that abortion is murder, since I think life begins at conception.
If we agree that life begins at conception then there is nothing to develop further. That one fact defines the whole problem
I think they should have that right.
The answer to the question is YES.
Why? legally, I agree but why you say so?
See BlacklightShades answer because she’s expressed it far better than I can.
Yes she has a right what ever she want
Women should have the right to abortion.
Only if raped or incest.
why condemn a life because of the actions of others?
@Abtraction How is rape the victims fault SMH
@Abtraction I know but rape is not the action of the woman it is the guy idiot!
@Laciandmaci ehh, IQ is low here on gab. The baby is not guilty of anything.
@Abtraction She's talking about the guy who raped her not the baby you shit.
@MrJMM yes exactly HIS IQ is low he calls this site gab it is gag.
@Abtraction Of course the baby did nothing. It just exists. But maybe some people just don't want it or want it. Also, retard stupid? Maybe retarded that's the word to use. You so-called man with a high IQ.
@MrJMM yeah, never mind the baby. horrible people you all are
@Abtraction I've been called worse things by better people.
@MrJMM lmao, god will judge you, I'm at peace with god...
@Abtraction OMB another 1 of those people. So what I don't care. Send me to hell and I still wouldn't give a shit about god.
@MrJMM yeah, explains why you don't care about the baby, another moral degenerate
@Abtraction Bitch believing or not believing in a being called god has nothing to do with a baby. It's a personal opinion.
@MrJMM ok, when judgment calls, you shall see
@Abtraction Ok, you know what? I don't know if your ass and face are in the wrong place because all that shit you talk about is disgusting. Also talking about religion with me is not worth your "precious time" on this piece of rock.
@MrJMM ok, have a nice day
This is saying that a woman only has a right to her autonomy after someone has already violated it.
@Abtraction Interesting that you think that trying to low key threaten people with eternal torture because they disagree with you is acceptable.
@WrestlingHero01 interesting that you think killing a baby is perfectly acceptable. Life is the most sacred thing, I'm stand on the highest moral ground by trying to protect life.
@Abtraction It's perfectly acceptable to remove anyone from your body who doesn't have your active consent to be there even if it kills them.
@WrestlingHero01 Thank you
@Abtraction Also you don't stand on moral ground. You're intending to turn women into objects, you've threatened something (eternal torture) which if true would be far worse than anything even hitler did as you could die and escape hitler whilst you claim to be pro life when this god you threaten people with is in his own book responsible for multiple genocides and of course your narrative is responsible for multiple terrorist attacks in the real world against doctors and clinics.
You have no high ground. You have misogyny.
@WrestlingHero01 shows how ignorant you are. Dictators have claimed many more lives than any religion. I have the moral high ground, no doubt about it. Have a nice day...
@Abtraction Sweetie you're the ignorant one here. Noahs ark would not only have been a genocide of all humans on the planet but also all animals but a boat. Then you have the plagues of egypt, then you have the Nazis, then you have the crusades etc. You can think you have the high ground but you don't.
@WrestlingHero01 lmao The Nazis where not religious. The crusades was a response to a Muslim attack. Again I still have the moral ground.
@Abtraction Oh dear child, you have come across someone more intelligent than you and instead of taking the time to learn you have sticking your head in the ground. The Nazis were religious and spent a proportion of their time promoting what they called "Positive Christianity" and Hitler himself described himself as a christian in both his early speeches and Mein Kampf.. They consistently invoked religion as justification for what they were doing as was Hitler who constantly talked about jesus being his savior. In fact Hitlers very first agreement was with the catholic church. Scholars who have done far more research than you have concluded that the Nazis were at minimum cultural catholics likewise anti semitism was part of the catholic church's official doctrine until the mid 1960s.
And again you are a supporter of terrorism, you worship a genocidal dictator and you threatened people in this thread with eternal torture. The only ground you have is the same ground as Ted Bundy.
@WrestlingHero01 lmao, no christian would ever do what the Nazis did. You live in a fantasy land.
@Abtraction Except for Hitler of course... and you if you think eternal torture is something you can threaten people with and be fine with it.
@WrestlingHero01 claiming to be christian and performing false propaganda does not make a person a christian. Go back to your fantasy land...
@Abtraction Lmao resorting to the no true scotsman fallacy rather than having the balls to admit you're wrong. Imagine being almost 50 years old and still committing logical fallacies on a girlsaskguys website.
@WrestlingHero01 lmao, only a true moron believes Hitler was a christian. No christian could do to the Jews what he did.
@Abtraction More no true scotsman fallacies lmao
@WrestlingHero01 nobody in their right mind believes Hitler was a christian, pretty much anyone who's researched Hitler agrees he's not. The fact that you even propose it is laughable.
@Abtraction Yeah no, most people who have researched Hitler have accepted he was religious and anyone who claims otherwise is not only committing a no true scotsman fallacy, they're also claiming they know someone's faith better than that person.
Again you can admit you're wrong or stay wrong. That's your call.
@WrestlingHero01 lmao, I'm not wrong. Funny how your entire presence on this site is to debate me. feel free to keep making a fool of yourself.
Note: HawkPerception blocked me because he's a coward, so I can't reply to anything in that thread.
@Abtraction Sweetie you can keep believing that if you like but you don't know more about someone's faith than the person you're speaking about and I can see your problem. You see this as us debating rather than you simply being a bad student whilst you, an almost 50 year old man go on about your IQ despite IQ not being an accurate measurement of intelligence which is in itself a self own meanwhile calling others idiots despite you not knowing the difference between you're and your and harping on threating people with eternal torture and being against women's rights. It's just sad, just go buy a sports car with the rest of the men having a mid life crisis and lay off the stochastic terrorism.
@WrestlingHero01 just like a child, more insults.
@Abtraction isn’t a bit hypocritical of you?
@Abtraction When people grow up they throw away their imaginary friends so let us know when you do I guess.
@WrestlingHero01 have a nice day
Yes, they should have that right.
It shouldn’t even been a question.
Sadly, people can take your comment and throw it either way.
@sean1234 I don't think so.
Are you kidding?
Women should have the right to abort, this shouldn't even be a question!!!
Abortion is MURDER!!!, this shouldn't even be a question!!!
@sean1234 We shouldn't even question this right.
Everyone has a right to wire coathangers.
This is why I don't think abortion should be banned. PP and many clinics that offer abortion also offer other woman's health-related services. However, I heard that artificial wombs are being created currently and maybe a viable alternative to early abortions (>22 weeks). What do you think?
Do plastic coat hangers work? Asking for a friend.
@BlacklightShade I don't think so.
Disclaimer: Don't try to do your own abortion.
I'll keep that in mind. Last time I tried I ended up with a wrinkle-free jacket.
No it is murder
Literally isn't but falsely claiming it is sure has resulted in multiple murders.
@WrestlingHero01 no matter how you slice it is murder. we can have this debate for a 1000 years and we will never agree
No it isn't. By the very definition of the word.
Murder requires the killing of another human being to be
A) illegal
B) to be premeditated
& C) to not have any circumstantial factors, for example killing in defense of ones or someone else's autonomy.
Abortion is not A) illegal and before you go and yell about how slavery was legal once, yes sure but it doesn't meet C) either. Removing someone from your body even if it kills them is not murder. You have the right to do that
@WrestlingHero01 same old wore out defense- pitiful
You can just say you don't value a woman's consent and get it over with old man.
Yes absolutely
you made the child, deal with the consequences
I think women should