America's Common Case of Kyle Rittenhouse (Page 5)

[Anonymous]

Dude, maybe just maybe you should have watched the case before writing this Take, b because all your questions and assumption were answered by evidence and eyewitness testimony.

[BillyBalls]

The guy he wounded brought an illegal gun to the riot and aimed it at Rittenhouse.

Tell me again. Who was looking for trouble?

[Waldoe]

Right and Wrong are very technical, there is a reason for that... it's so opinions don't matter, only facts... the jury system works... God Bless America

[Anonymous]

Another mind-reader chiming in on an already-decided case. 100% speculation on your part.

[Anonymous]

Playing the race card on this case for me falls under could've, shoulda, woulda.
However, your point about a child with no training and a powerful weapon going looking for trouble is interesting.

[Jouth]

Well you're a dumb dumb so naw. He was attacked, physical contact. He then opened fire in defense. Nothing can change this fact.

He did go to a riot armed to the teeth like he was a fucking Navy Seal. I admit and agree that he was a complete fucking idiot who acted with recklessness and put people's lives in danger.

But when it comes to the question of why those people were shot. Who's fault it was, it seems to be almost entirely the fault of the people who decided to chase and then attack him. The moment these dudes decided to chase a guy with a gun, they entered a new level of stupid, not seen anywhere else that night, and this entrance was rewarded by the cold crack of 5.56 echoing into the night, extinguishing their lives. It fucking sucks. It's sad. It was unfortunate, but I still don't believe self defense is wrong or legally undefendable.

[bamesjond0069]

Wow spent all this time writing. Didn't watch the the recorded footage of the event. Fail.

[ManOnFire]

I did. I was not convinced.

[bamesjond0069]

Your key problem is this... "I love the way a lot of people always try to use laws..." its a court of law. What else are they supposed to use?

[Uptowngirl88]

He shouldn't have been there in the first place

[YesICan]

No one should've been there in the first place. He probably wouldn't be there with a weapon if people didn't decide to burn down properties and vandalize the streets.

[Uptowngirl88]

@YesICan we obviously know that no one should've been there. The point is if they announce on the news there is a terrorist attack 2 blocks away and for everyone to stay in the house.. Would you leave your home where you're safe to go to the terrorist attack 2 blocks away? No, correct?

[Uptowngirl88]

No one with common sense would do that

[Uptowngirl88]

So now the dumbass has just as bad of a criminal record as the bimbos out there rioting. Which will most likely be removed but still this entire trial was a waste of our tax dollars when he could've just stayed his ass home and let law enforcement deal with the retards rioting

[YesICan]

"he could've just stayed his ass home and let law enforcement deal with the retards rioting"

The riot raged for THREE days at that point. Where was the National Guard? People had to arm themselves and defend their properties or business on their own. If everyone stayed at home and let the rioters do their thing there would be more properties damaged.

"Would you leave your home where you're safe to go to the terrorist attack 2 blocks away? No, correct?"

If I was by myself I would stay at home as it would probably be a suicide mission , but if all my people raised up with guns ready to DEFEND our community from a group of anarchists who are ready to burn down everything people have put hard work in of course I would join and help out, its MY community after all.

[Uptowngirl88]

Dude who cares. I'm not going back and forth with you all night. My opinion is not changing. Goodbye

[spearheadbt]

@YesICan so property is worth more than human lives now? Anyone can just decide to do the police's job (even if they are doing it poorly) without passing any training or whatever? No wonder the US is a shithole. People are always a second away of massacring themselves and are ok with it. That's what happens when human life has less value than a pile of dirt.

[spearheadbt]

@YesICan You imply it very much. Your whole argument is that it was ok for Rittenhouse to be there with a gun to defend property (it wasn't). Of course the rioters shouldn't have been there, but it's the police's job (even if they can suck at it) to do this. Not some random people who don't necessarily have the proper training, or have cool heads enough to do this. A 17 y-o guy, very much green behind the ears coming there with a rifle was more or less a disaster bound to happen. It's a well-known fact that the mere fact of having a weapon with you significantly increases the chances of either you using it, or someone else using their weapon against you. He went there with a gun in order to have a confrontation with the rioters. OF COURSE things could have degenerated.

It's only very basic common sense that the odds of something going wrong were far from negligible. If you defend someone like him, or anyone for that matter, doing their own vigilante justice, that means you defend these odds being far from negligible. This means you defend the risk of people dying if it is to defend property. More simply: defending property with a gun has the obvious risks that this gun be used, and that in that case it can kill. If you are ok with people doing this, then you are ok if people die. It's that simple. This is not a strawman, it's the very much logical end-point of your argumentation. If you can't figure that out by yourself, then I don't know what to say.

And to make it very clear: I by no means defend the rioters. I find rioting despicable. But I respect human life.

[YesICan]

@spearheadbt //"Your whole argument is that it was ok for Rittenhouse to be there with a gun to defend property (it wasn't)."//

Yes it was okay for him to be there and defend properties with a rifle. It is his right to stand with his people and defend it. If it wasn't he would be behind bars now.

//"A 17 y-o guy, very much green behind the ears coming there with a rifle was more or less a disaster bound to happen."//

That 17 year old who was "very much green" behind the ears showed great trigger discipline and he handled the situation very well. Only people who got hurt that night where the people who attacked him FIRST. And not a single person that didn't intent to harm Kyle was hurt. That kid handled that situation better then me and you would combined.

The rest that you wrote is just a crazy straw-man argument. There is no "common sense" behind anything you wrote, it's just verbal diarrhea and you using some big words out of the dictionary to make yourself sound smart. You said nothing, it's not a valid argument.

[SaoirseS]

Machine gun rifle? There’s no such thing.

[Daniela1982]

You have to have a Class 3 federal firearms license to buy a machine gun. Buying a machine gun requires an extensive background check, and while certain firearms – those that fall into the category of Curios & Relics (C&R) guns – can be transferred directly from one owner to another, in most cases this sort of sale requires an actual Class III dealer. It involves filling out some very detailed paperwork, getting fingerprinted by local law enforcement or other approved service, providing a pair of passport photos, and submitting a $200 fee, which is the tax for said transfer.

Once this is done you wait. And then you wait some more. Unlike the National Instant Criminal Background Check that is used to buy a firearm at a gun shop, nothing is "instant," "quick" or "speedy" in this procedure. This is a slow process and due to the coronavirus will likely only be slower, once the NFA branch, which is located in Martinsburg, West Virginia, is reopened.

When buying any NFA item, patience isn't a virtue, it is required. There is no way to rush the process and generally takes around nine months. After that, the seller, or in most cases the dealer who handled the process, is provided the paperwork and stamp, and the buyer can pick up his/her machine gun.

[Jouth]

HE KILLED THE PEOPLE SAOIRSE RONAN!!!

I want Chris Kyle to go against Kyle Rittenhouse to see who is the justice and we can be settled.

Don't you think?

[HighValue]

The poster of this article has been a long time racist liberal. I quit this site years ago and still remember him being that way back then spreading lies. that is why he is an editor. Back then most of the editors and admin were very liberal and spread racist hate and liberal lies worse than they do now.

And obviously he doesn't know classifications of weapons that he writes long articles about. He is quite ignorant.

[LegendaryIcon]

you expected him to be considered not guilty, because you had pre case bias

YOU WANTED HIM TO BE INNOCENT

[Anonymous]

I guess "technically" that pedophile he killed didn't rape those underaged boys either, huh?

[jimmy2]

Look cases like this eveyone takes a stand one way or the other. So say like me the jury trial work on the justice system of laws. Some will fan the racist stuff that the riots in the first place

[Jaythenut3]

He was defending his self the people he killed deserve to die

[MJtheCoach]

Everybody’s talking about this I’ve never realized he was the king of United States!

[calmingmoonlight]

I believe yes it was the correct thing as it was self defence. But the question remains is that if he wasn't white would he have gone to jail?

[BillyBalls]

What does race have to do with this case?

A white guy shot three moron white guys!!!

[007kingifrit]

if he wasn't white... he wouldn't have been put on trial at all

a black man in wisconsin was just let out of jail for stabbing someone the SAME DAY as the stabbing and he... rammed a Christmas parade and killed 5 children

we are way too lenient on blacks in our legal system

[Diodoro]

This was a surprisingly biased take

[Diodoro]

1. He legally owned and carried the gun. You're misinformed

2. You argue the fact he had that instead of a pistol ( a gun he can't legally own/carry) would have been what he WOULD HAVE carried if he were there to help.

So you're arguing he should have broken the law to do good. Rather than following the law to do good. But using that choice as reason to read intent into his actions.

This is exactly why we have juries. The right verdict was placed regardless of how you feel about it. And yes, all else equal, if he were black the same outcome would have happened but even easier because black lives matter would have been supporting him

If the circumstances were exactly the same and the only thing that changed was the color of the skin of the people involved, yeah the same thing would happen

But this is another irrelevant Point since there was no one involved who wasn't White. You're adding a layer by saying "if he were black". Well adding that stipulation changes something because now a black guy killed white people rather than saying a black guy shooting black people which would be an honest comparison. But you came at this from a biased angle from the jump

[Diodoro]

The one thing we do agree on is knowing how it would end before it happened. I knew he would win the court case before it even began, because at the end of the day he was protecting his town in a place that was being rioted and at the same time the police were told to do nothing

No jury with a conscience can look at that situation and say yea this kid is guilty. The police were literally doing nothing. Are you gonna let your town burn? If someone else doesn't and goes to court are you really gonna say he should go to prison?

That's some cowardly spineless shit right there if so. Not only not willing to protect your home. Looking to convict people who had the spine to do something

[f_ckjoebiden]

Cry more, Rittenhouse is now a national hero.

[f_ckjoebiden]

patriots.win/.../

Everyone do The Grosskreutz Shuffle.

[Seangreen]

Its not a machine gun dickhead.

[Jouth]

pew pew pew

[Jouth]

Heheh cry baby cry

😈🥀

[BillyBalls]

You mean. Alec Baldwin?

[Jouth]

@BillyBalls heh baby

[MountAverage]

I completely agree with you on this.

[WhiteSteve]

You nailed it, man👏