A Common Guy's Perspective Of The Gender War

[HawkPerception]

Historically men and women had distinct roles. It's known that men were the hunters and women were the gatherers. Nowadays, after all the infrastructure has been built, the amount of jobs that don't require intense physical labour and the value of those jobs has increased dramatically.

It's the only day and age where you can order groceries, clothes, food, maintenance on your place, and basically all of your needs online. You literally do not have to leave your house to make a living. This has led women to have the potential to be single, own a house, and make just as much, if not more money than if they were to have a partner. This has given women the ability to live much more independently than before. However, that is also the root cause of this gender war going on right now.

Men just do not see their places in society as easily nowadays. The irony of women nowadays (and I'm not applying this to all of them; I'm only applying this to modern feminists) is that they fought for equality (and for the record I have no issue with this), but now that they have it, they still expect men to lead, pay for dates, initiate and approach them, all while earning everything for themselves (for the record, I'd have no issue with that if things weren't equal. If anything, I'd prefer it, because I genuinely do feel like men prefer to provide). Is their time valuable than men to the point where we have to pay for them to be there? If women are so capable and independent shouldn't that mean they can get themselves? Also, why are women generally attracted to men that have a high income than themselves? Why do women complain about men not approaching them, but also complain about all the creeps? I'm convinced the majority of women want their cake and to eat it too. I'll stop there before some crazy lady comes at me.

Just throwing this in here on somewhat of a tangent, but...

In those countries it's about "fairness and equality" rather than following traditions. That's why I feel like they're ahead of the west. In the west, women tend to want all the benefits of traditional without any of the responsibilities. It's funny because I've seen comments of girls on social media saying their experiences with men in those countries sucked because they wouldn't pay for them.

Due to many of the changes society is going through, the amount of women that identify as liberal has increased significantly since 2015, whereas men's stance has more or less stayed the same.

The differences in views between men and women leads men to the "Red Pill" and "MGTOW" movements, which promote negative views of women and marriage, which can reinforce harmful stereotypes and help fuel the gender war.

Social media does tend to distort the perceptions of both genders, with unrealistic standards and extreme viewpoints. It adds to the misunderstandings and dissatisfaction in relationships.

Honestly though, I agree with the guy in the video... for the most part. I think that both men and women have their own perspectives and it really is hard to see from the other side (hell, I still think men are more oppressed than women nowadays... BY FAR). But I think we really need to put more effort into seeing each other's side. Genuinely put ourselves in the others shoes and look through their lens. Men and women should be allies, not enemies. We shouldn't be competing with each other either, but just supporting each other's strengths.

[Dongie]

A nice gathering of info. I see the liberal hand all over this. They divide us on race, color, and gender. That's their MO. I'm not going to speak down on women although that spike is all in one generation, Z. And you know once you've been brainwashe, indoctrinated or whatever you call the cult of leftist, its difficult to retrieve them.

[handsomelad70]

I'm black, and we've ALWAYS been divided (and othered) on race.

[Dongie]

No. The idea is to erase such things. A steady progress until Obama got in office.

[Billlewis]

Ding, ding, ding... somebody here actually gets it.

[DishLady]

To sum up... not sure why there should even BE a gender "war" when theoretically the genders were made for one another. We're supposed to compliment one another... Pretending anything else is nonsense.

[HawkPerception]

Exactly 💯

[kmg9150]

That what he said in the end. he's using the term “gender war” as to what much of society has it labeled as. Because both sides can't see the other and have unrealistic expectations to one another, i. e not complimenting one anothers strength’s.

[DishLady]

@kmg9150 Exactly.

[kmg9150]

I come to see that society, the media (news and social), entertainment (big time hollywood), parents and women tend give us the wrong perception of the kind of man a women wants to be with. They dont want some prince charming as they always get turned off when a guy will pedestal them. They dont want a guy thats over sensitive and emotionally directed. Its its a disbelief that women only want these type of things in a man to having money, flashy things, status or be a fit “handsome” dude, etc. They may say this, but more often than not whether they want to admit it, they dont.


So here we have these past few generations of guys that are clueless when it comes to women, choosing to blame and give up rather than look inward and educate themselves on an unconventional level. The reason it appears women want those above things mentioned in a man is because most men dont feel confident with what they have because they dont see themselves as worthy because they think women want everything they dont have. Women in general, want to be heard without someone trying to fix everything in their life, a man thats confident and can lead (life and relationships are like a dance), one with masculine traits, doesn't let her push him around, has goals, hobbies and friends aside from the ones he knows from her. Men think they can rationalize logical reasoning with women see them as “dumb” because it doesn't work and women think men are “dumb” because keep trying to communicate with that way and just won't get it. Women are subtle, men are upfront. I could keep going but it boils down to misunderstanding communication and unwilling to accept one self as the need to change.


Yes more women in the workforce in general and in higher paying positions means less men will be able to earn those higher incomes and thus lowering the “type” of men that is more likely to attract women. The more stable a women is the less confident a majority of men will be in their presence. Men will stop “dating” the woman as time collects in their relationship, not planning dates, getting stuck in that day in day out routine. The dating, courting, whatever you want to call it ends up extinguished.


There is a good book I think people should read that begins to go into how men and women can complement, communicate and understand one another better called Why Mars and Venus Collide by John Grey.


Bro, dont be afraid to voice your opinion and upsetting anyone. Because here's the thing, if feminist are going to attack you then they go against their own beliefs of everyone should be safe to express themselves even if other dont agree. The issue is most liberal thinking people feel that you must accept to how and what expression they choose, and you are free to do so as well only if they share the same ideology though and it doesn't. So yeah they want their cake, to eat it too, and to serve it to whomever they want, and no one to tell them different.


Yes men are have been and still are more oppressed than women. Here in the states going back to 1920, on average amount of income filed with the IRS women and men had the same per person in two instances and one instance the women actually had more income per person. (Single, head of household, married but filed separate.). This was at a time when women had no rights, just got the right to vote and couldnt open a bank account on their own and were supposedly so marginalized. There are numerous private organiZations and government agencies , programs, laws that specifically aim to helping, protecting, providing, etc towards women in multiple fields, money, health mental and physical, abuse, housing, childcare, education, “equality”, etc. I dont believe there is even one for men. Talk about gender discrimination….


I’m done.

[VanillaSalt]

I feel like I wrote this… Every word is something I have researched extensively and the feelings conveyed are my opinions as well. Very well done.


The issue is several fold…

• Who makes the first move to correct this?

Men don’t want to because the whole issue is women not valuing men and over valuing themselves.

• How do you tell someone they don’t deserve what they think they deserve without being a dick?

Women don’t respond well to dicks. Telling someone their average is an insult these days.

• Why care?

Let’s be frank about relationships and marriage. Women don’t understand what commitment is if they defend no fault divorce. Divorce rates 56% and 80% of them are filed by women. Women don’t know how to signal to men they’re interested and men don’t know how to approach. All we see is the shitty personality people put on social media and we interact less in person than ever before so we only see what social media shows. Metoo tells us approaching her can be assault. Gym creep trend. There’s a lot of risk to pursuing and even if you’re successful there’s very low chance it will last and a very high risk of losing it and the cost of losing is everything you gained from the relationship… family, friends, money, children…

[HawkPerception]

Glad I could do ya justice brother. We're just 2 common guys seeing society unfold in a way we don't like.

[MisterWack]

Every sexist guy / girl on GAG asks questions that are triggered over the “gender war”. I don’t care about gender the way these people do.

My take: People are people, flesh n blood & 70% made of water. We are all the same by that, and we shall remain the same. Gender, race, religion, social status, etc. doesn’t matter because we are people and should view & treat eachother as such.

I gave a girl my pencil when no one in the class would, I stood up for a girl being bullied by another kid, a girl fell down in the hall spilling pencils all over the floor and I was the only one to help her out. Why did I help them out? I would be in similar situations and didn’t want them to fall behind… I didn’t do it because they were girls, I did it because of empathy. Show some heart and soul out here to your fellow humans!

[kmg9150]

But gender and race can matter in instances…. It not about thinking we are all the same, yeah mostly water, and bleed the same but not same blood. There are biological difference than separate men and women, like hormones and thought analyzation physical build, etc. Same with race, like black people will sun burn far less frequent than white people.

Its about understanding our differences, accepting them and complimenting them..

[MisterWack]

@kmg9150
Well, I meant “gender wars”.
Basically YES we are different when we take hormones & race into consideration. Though I want us to see each other as people and look past that, if there is a medical setting or specific talk or something then I believe we should have that when applicable though I’m talking about those that put people down just for being different…. My message “Let’s just get along!” which can include “Let’s specify treatment / help specifically geared towards individuals when applicable”.

[LiamJHayden]

I choose to deal with women who are not engaged in such warfare.

[Dargil]

Avoid white wine drinking white cat women. Look to Latin America and the Orient for a partner. It's the real MGTOW.

[Dongie]

I hear thee.

[Dargil]

@Dongie And I did exactly that. Three round trip flights there and a one way for her, remittances, applications, visa and more are cheap compared to being eviscerated by a Karen, losing kids, wealth, reputation and career. As I day, it is the real MGTOW.

[Dongie]

I love Mexican women.

[Dongie]

I think there are some good ones. The over 40. GenXers.

[Crazzyyworld]

God created angels as female and male.

[Dongie]

Where does it say that?

[Crazzyyworld]

@Dongie Swedenborg heaven and hell swedenborg.com/.../NCE_HeavenandHell_portable.pdf

[Dongie]

Thank you. Are you from Europe?

[Crazzyyworld]

@Dongie no I am Korean living in Canada

[Dongie]

Really. I think you are my first Korean.
Hey.

[kmg9150]

Could have sworn angels were “genderless”. But your saying there more like a hermaphrodite correct?

[DarkWinterNights]

@kmg9150, I don’t know if there is any evidence of that. We do know that notable ones are depicted as men and have very masculine names, like Michael and Gabriel. Most things in nature are distinctly male or female, so I doubt Angels would be one of the few exceptions.

[Dongie]

The only thing I know of Angel's comes from the Bible and the book of Enoch.

[Dongie]

I don't know where this Swedenborg (spelling) got his info from.

[Dongie]

It seems the only ones I've read about were male as well. Every name in the Book of Enoch, it seems, were male too.

[Crazzyyworld]

@Dongie read the book you will find out

[Dongie]

Ima' scared.😱

[Crazzyyworld]

@Dongie I was scared too. This book totally liberated me.. hell and heaven is different than we have heard.

[Crazzyyworld]

People get married in heaven, angels have sex, hell is full of monsters and they don’t feel the heat from the fire. God also govern the hell so that people don’t hurt each others.

[Dongie]

But how was this guy supposed to know these things?
I read all through the first part. You know, the stuff to read about.

[Crazzyyworld]

@Dongie he travelled to heave and hell for 15years like millions of times. It’s very interesting to see what’s going on in heaven and hell. There is party going on and people get married like a fairly tall. He must know he travels so many times

[Dongie]

Maybe I can finally get a good one.