You... yeah you... you're freaking awesome! (Page 2)

[ThisDudeHere]

NO YOU'RE WRONG. I am not awesome.

you are awesome.

[shesAcylon]

Well said sir! Thank you for a brighter morning

[Hephaestus]

^_^ Thank YOU for the compliment.

[Marimar2012]

Lol harry potter older and muscler.

[Hephaestus]

Harry potter went to the gym instead of hogwarts lol

[Marimar2012]

The guy looks like nicolas cage than harry potter. Lol

[AkumaKira]

Im awesome and I know it! :3

[Hephaestus]

winning!

[Aud_Queen]

I needed this tonight! Thank-you!

[Hephaestus]

^_^ tis a pleasure

[menina]

This is great!
Thanks for sharing it.

[Hephaestus]

Pleasure!

[justbanANNAz]

this is so cute. thanks for sharing this take! :))

[Hephaestus]

Hah thank ya kindly :3

[Despondency]

;___; I'm too old for this myth. Damn.

[Hephaestus]

Tis no myth dear chap ^_^

[Despondency]

It is. The concept of being "oneself" is popular but it's not a pretty thing. There's a lot of dark that humans cannot begin to deal with within themselves and those that learn how to are either venerated or go insane.

You're only awesome if you're not, for instance, a serial killer. They aren't very awesome even when being "themselves". Same with perpetual liars, thieves, gainsays, smileys, etc.

[Hephaestus]

I didn't think I would have to say "bar serial killers and the such" thought that would be common sense o_O

[Despondency]

Exactly, but you don't realize that "And the Chemically Depressed people, that's not awesome, keep taking your meds, you are not great as you are without those meds!" is there too. A lot of people have a lot of conditions, physical and mental or both and interconnected, that actually are not awesome, ever, no matter how motivational or inspirational you get.

[Hephaestus]

so the peeps who need meds to keep themselves together, are not allowed to feel that they too can be awesome?
that they are defined by a condition?
na

[Despondency]

When you say "Be yourself" that means that you tend to be unmedicated. This is just a childish myth.

[Hephaestus]

not really, medication in such circumstances as you defined is what keeps peeps on track to getting back to being themselves from the deviation that the condition has caused.
like taking a wrong turn on a road trip

not childish in the slightest ^_^

[Despondency]

Chemical depression is "themselves". It's completely natural and how their brain normally functions. What you describe as "on track" is what you understand as normal and productive happy human life. Is it not understandable that these people were they left to be "themselves" would be literally depressed all of their lives?

For every inspirational story you hear about a child born with a birth defect that overcame it there are a few thousand who never do, who are bitter, and who really wish they weren't themselves. We listen to the man who lost his legs in a tragic accident and became a wheelchair champion but no one gives a hoot about the man who was born with malformed legs that never walked, never became a champion, was picked on and despised or pitied all his life, and died unmarried, unfulfilled, and unhappy.

I imagine his error was not "being himself" and "embracing the awesome" that is crippling disease.

[Despondency]

And for kicks let's say you are mentally ill? You don't "un" mentally ill if it's chemical; you have to take the "Normal People Pills" all of your life. Every damn day. I'm not sure where the awesome is in that.

[Hephaestus]

you are taking this entirly the wrong way hahahah
i am stating people should feel awesome as themselves!
thus the peeps on pills
the peeps in wheelchairs and such
guess what... all awesome!

[Hephaestus]

if you don't agree, that's fine ^_^
but i deem everyone as awesome, and that they should feel it.

[Despondency]

And so again the reality of human life is swept under the rug for candied wishes. :(

It must be so nice to be normal.

[Hephaestus]

i really don't see what part you are missing here

people deserve to feel awesome, it's just that simple O_o

[Despondency]

No, not all people deserve to feel awesome, for instance you wrote off people who commit crimes. The way this type of thinking works is it's exclusionary; you don't fit if A) you don't fit if get pleasure from harming others, that's just bad, and you're just naughty, and B) you don't fit if you don't accept yourself which is relatively difficult if you have a horrible life altering disease.

But everyone else? Totally.

Most motivational speeches are exclusionary built for a very specific target audience that work by automatic omission; the kid who feels good about himself and awesome when he tells lies about his sexual conquests? He doesn't deserve to feel awesome! Or does he? Because he does feel awesome when he does it and everyone does or...

And that kid who has schizophrenia, where the medication is sometimes worse than the disorder, deserves to feel awesome. Can't though, too busy having side-effect auditory hallucinations and feeling sick from "treatment".

/knottylogix

[Hephaestus]

you must be fun at parties

no actually, motivational speeches, in this case anyway, are built for anyone lol
mental illness or not

ok ima change it for you

all what i wrote originally +
bar criminals who hurt other peeps in any way shape or form

the whole concept of this is if you feel awesome, you are awesome.
don't change just because you think it is what people want.

[Hephaestus]

also, im saying the peeps who fall within your B) option, should feel awesome no matter what ^_^

[Despondency]

"the whole concept of this is if you feel awesome, you are awesome."

Which is why it's wrong. It should be the other way around. I've helped enough people to know this.

[Hephaestus]

as have i
it's not wrong in the slightest to believe in yaself and feel awesome lol

[Despondency]

No, but let us talk about the second level of humanity, for I think it may sink in better. The first level of the human experience would be the tangibles, illness, disease, etc.

The second level could be considered the intangibles, personality traits, quirks, etc.

In real life you have people who feel awesome but are rude, crude, and incapable of getting along with others. They reason that because others dislike them there is nothing wrong with them, it's with everyone else, due to them being awesome.

This is dangerous thinking. When a person puts themselves before others it is jsut as bad as when they put others before themselves because not intermingling the two is just going to lead to delusional crap like this where you excluded criminals, which have done a tangible, but you also probably exclude the rude, the prideful, the boastful, and the slothful from thinking they are awesome too.

Feeling good about yourself should FOLLOW, not PRECEDE, behavior.

[Hephaestus]

you have really... really put too much thought into such a simple and basic concept

we clearly ain't going to see eye to eye and we are going in circles now ^^
i think everyone should be happy with who they are (bar the obvious lol)

[Despondency]

The easiest example is "Smart Kid Syndrome". You get people, when you tutor, who never studied, never learned how to study, and never had to study suddenly being stumped on problems that are easy to study for. All of their lives they have been told they are awesome, have had the confidence rivaling gods academically, and never had to actually back their confidence with behaviors.

People who encourage others to do this do them more of a disservice, helping them think they feel better, than a service which is helping them actually feel better because a person's wellbeing first and foremost is best increased through participation in their own health and wellness versus being spoonfed what is honestly an outright lie that only applies to people that we just sort of imagine being half decent.

I can tell anyone "Do well consistently and you will feel better." It is not exclusionary. I cannot tell everyone "You will feel better once you do well." It just isn't true. So such is teaching.

[Hephaestus]

-_-
right
i said never change for he expectations and supposed perceptions that others will like you if you alter yourself.
constantly changing to fit in is a terrible thing that often causes someone to lose themselves... thus, the entirety of this!
thus... be yourself... be awesome!
I don't know how i can word this any different lol

[Despondency]

"thus... be yourself... be awesome! "

Some people are complete self-absorbed assholes who think they are awesome who took your advice and stopped giving a shit about what other's think. They are also some of the loneliest people I know.

I know you can't do any better though so I should stop. You tried to contribute to the world and I acknowledge that. Well done.

[Hephaestus]

it's not a case of "doing" better, on my part.
you just stick to your guns and attempt to pick holes in an umbrella... it makes no sense to me in the slightest lol

my message isn't " hey everyone, become arrogant and self absorbed"
it's "love who you are... not what you think others want"

[Despondency]

You do not seem to understand that a Mindset is not born of decision but of persistence.

[Hephaestus]

and you don't seem to understand that it can be changed.

[Despondency]

I never denied that it could not be changed. I am merely saying that whim is worthless; when a person decides that they are something versus they can do something there is no actual refutation. If I say "I can turn invisible and will show you." You can watch me and either I can or cannot. If I say "I am smarter than you!" You actually cannot measure that. One is tangible, the other intangible, and the problem with deciding that you are something intangible is that without some form of tangible backing it holds no value.

Telling yourself you're awesome doesn't make you awesome. As a matter of fact it tends to do the opposite.

[Hephaestus]

no actually, telling yourself you are awesome is a proven way to boost confidence, because simply put, it's an encouragement to yourself.
and confidence is a detrimental factor on the reasons many folk feel down.

holds no value? it holds it to the person in question, the one person this whole point is based around impressing... it matters not what others think, but what you think of yourself. thus making that point invalid in this discussion :3

[Despondency]

"no actually, telling yourself you are awesome is a proven way to boost confidence, because simply put, it's an encouragement to yourself."

Confidence... in what? You see, there's no tangible, no measurable element, so it's worthless because it has no backing. If I told myself "I am awesome at Chemistry!" do I suddenly gain knowledge of chemistry? No. Being confident in yourself is not a decision, it is a journey, and if you believe that you can be confident in yourself by telling yourself you're confident in yourself then you've built a sand castle. All it takes is just one high tide and it's all gone.

The main reason people feel "down" is because they aren't actually doing anything that makes them feel meaningful. They sit wishing and praying for a miracle mindset to just fall on them instead of volunteering even an hour of their day helping consistently. When one's hands are idle and one's mouth is loose what good is that?

But! I wish the world worked the way you describe.

[Hephaestus]

in yourself! it's really that simple!
so by your logic, confidence is worthless/non existent... because it's not a physical alteration?

[Despondency]

Then I'd be really, really good at chemistry with just one declaration and have no personality flaws just because I waived them with a word.

"it matters not what others think, but what you think of yourself. thus making that point invalid in this discussion"

Oh, and this is completely false, and you should be willing to listen to others because quite a number of people are out there to help you improve. One thing about this kind of message that is always amusing is that when someone says "Only you matter, listen to yourself!" they don't realize that they are defeating their own message. What is the value of your words to me? Should I listen to you? Are you not a peon in comparison, and only what I think matters, and if so should I only take and surround myself with people who agree with me on everything? Am I not a Solipsist?

Such is for the youth. Wise people know that listening for the truth is just as important as speaking the truth.

[Hephaestus]

and it really is a decision, you can sit right now and decide to be confident... only aspect that is a journey about it is the growth of it.

[Hephaestus]

yeah as should you, you refuse to see any aspect of what i have wrote and deem yourself correct :3
thus "you should be willing to listen to others "
should take your own advice ^_^

[Despondency]

"in yourself! it's really that simple!
so by your logic, confidence is worthless/non existent... because it's not a physical alteration?"

Based on what? You don't seem to understand that the reason people are not confident does have physical presence. "I am not confident in myself because I believe that my face is ugly." This has two parts:

A) The Intangible:

"I am not confident in myself"

B) The Tangible (Reasoning):

"because I think my face is ugly."

The reality is that it works both ways, confidence is a scale, not a stand-alone concept; when you are confident in your ability to do something it's generally because you have done something similar before and when you are not confident it's generally because it's completely foreign to you or you have not shown competence in the past. Confidence is a measurement of one's merit towards a concept even including the self.

So you say "I am confident in myself... " where is the "Because?", Oh, "Because I am awesome!"

[Despondency]

"I am awesome because I am awesome!", "I am confident because I am confident!", are these not loops? Does this not sound simplistic? Can I not say this about anything? "I am good at chemistry because I decided I am good at chemistry." Does that make it true? Absolutely not. Things like metacognition run completely opposite this kind of thinking; you have no reason to believe you are awesome, just the notion that you are, and in turn you are left with nothing when it's challenged.

You are awesome? What makes you awesome? Anyone who buys into simple quips like this has no real answer. I could say, "I tutor, volunteer my time and talents, and have dedicated my life to improving my community!" but many people really don't have that, instead it's "I'm really good at video games!" or "I'm pretty!" and other such superficial worthless nonsense that only one person might care about and it's not even them.

An understanding of how people work is required to truly help people. The concept

[Despondency]

that it's just a magic spell that you cast by speaking it into existence is just as bad as playing doctor with real utensils and a real person's life at stake.

[Hephaestus]

see?
you really miss the listening part and fail to take your own advice lol

we could go round and round all day
neither seeing the other persons perspective.
a bsic understanding of people would tell you that :3

[Despondency]

Your perspective works for about twenty minutes.

[Hephaestus]

yours just doesn't :3

[Despondency]

Well, a limitus test.

Your take is written specifically saying that a person should simply be confident and that this will erode all insecurities, for better or worse, but it focuses on a very specific requirement:

The source be external (comparative).

Most insecurities are internal (meritorious). How does your advice help with internal insecurities?

[Despondency]

I have shamed myself aging far too greatly to play with children. ._.

[Hephaestus]

as stated, we won't see eye to eye lol

actually there is no requirement, it states that basically if you are happy with yourself, that's amazing ^_^
internally, externally or both.
how does my advice of be confident an have faith in yourself... help people with internal problems? kinda answers itself

[Despondency]

Forgive me for bothering with this.

[Hephaestus]

children?
out of us 2... you're the one displaying continuous stubbornness :3
but hey, wouldn't expect a child to see that ^_^

[Hephaestus]

has been an event lol

[muspelhem_5]

Drop the meds. I was on meds for almost ten years.

Psychiatry takes your biggest weaknesses and labels you accordingly. It tells you you will never get better, then provides you with drugs. I have seen so many lives wasted by this misguided juggernaut.

You might not feel great (I don't tonight), but at least you won't be a drugged-up victim of greedy doctors who could care less about your fate.

Check out 'Anatomy of an Epidemic' by Robert Whitaker. The drugs don't work. Only they never told you. It's a fact, not some loony conspiracy.

[Watermelonoma]

im happy with who i am, but i recognize that there are areas for improvement =)

[JackKerouac77]

That buff Harry Potter inspires me

[datgirl]

Thanks!!! you're awesome too

[Hephaestus]

^_^ whoop! danke

[xMoonlessNight]

OK nice now take my life away.

[Hephaestus]

But that wouldn't be any good o_O

[chocolateismylover]

Dude, I freaking love you !!!

[Hephaestus]

Awww shucks hah

[GymBumGuy]

did't read your post but kudos for the pic

[soccerchick4eva]

Great Takeee! that harry potter tho ahhahaha :")

[Anonymous]

Awesome take m8 ur fucking g8 and awesome

[TSWIFT243]

That was amazing! You sir are AWESOME!!! 💗💗💗👍

[blondfrog]

I know I am lol I ain't changing for no one.

[LovesTVDx]

I loved this 😊

[Hephaestus]

^_^ many thanks

[ThatBritishLad]

*Insert snarky retort here*

[Hephaestus]

Oh you scallywag!
such a scathing retort! I am simply at a loss for words!
:p