Do you think Western men who marry foreign women are desperate?

[BronzedAdonis]

Do you think Western men from 1st world, Western countries, place foreign women from the East on a pedestal because they're insecure and desperate or are their reasons legitimate and for the right reasons?

I personally think its because they're inadequate and can't get a woman from their won country.


whats your thought and perspective on this?

detailed answer are appreciated

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NOTE: I'm not talking in every single case but most of the time.

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and yes those foreign women are likely desperate too

[Anonymous]

I am a Middle Eastern woman, who came to the US for MS and PhD in Engineering field. During my time, I have dated a German student for 1.5 year, and an Austrian for 1 year. I recently started dating an American. I do not think he is desperate. He is a good looking, smart person with a secure well-paid job.

Am I desperate? No, even if some people think that I need citizenship and desperate to stay, I think I am doing well on my own, with an engineering degree. If I have to go back due to visa issues, I would go back. I would not use anyone for my own agenda. That's not fair to anyone.

I simply date foreigners, because there is none around me from my country. The ones I know are married.

And i have talked to my previous boyfriends about the issues like how different it is to date a girl from same culture vs foreign national like me. Most point out that they want a bilingual multicultural family and they're fascinated by that. Also, i have had just three boyfriends and never had sex with more than three, or never had one night stands. Lost my virginity to the first german one. I think this also affects their thinking. Another thing i have learnt is that they claim western women are selfish, and full of themselves. They dont see it as "empowerment". Of course I am not an authority and i dont like to take a group of women down. But this is what they say. Also, they say they are not really caring about others' feelings, or thinking. Even an easy question i ask makes them feel happy. Questions like how was your day? Or did you fix the problem with your coworker you mentioned the other day? Or when you ask their opinion. I have heard from them is that this is nurturing. Also, they told me that it was easier to have smart and deep talks with me compared to the girls they have met from their countries in their entire life, and they like to hear different perspectives that they cannot see due to sometimes not being objective and/or being patriotic about their countries.

[Cowboy6666]

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[Opinion Owner]

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[Cowboy6666]

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[Opinion Owner]

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[Cowboy6666]

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[mooky06]

I'm not sure to be honest. It can get lonely for some guys out there and they just really want to have someone to love and have children with.

There could be a number of factors though. She could of been here (abroad) and had to go back, he hmm went on a holiday over there and he came across her, they met each other through mutual friends, a family member tried to hook them up together because they knew a friend of a friend who knew her, online dating lol who really knows

But I'm not sure. I don't see it desperate though (like my mind is not in that train of thought). I honestly see (as bad as it may look and highly stereotypical it may be)
girl--->green card--->marriage---->children--->divorce
Not all of them end up like that though.

[emailme]

It's a symptom of a bigger issue regarding the divide between men and women in european based societies. Everyone following way of thinking has poor or negative birth rates and other issues that create poor and declining family structures. This will not be undone. They are reaching for something different hoping it will fix the problem for them specifically. Also because they may be very attracted to them as well :) I mean a lot of really bad stuff is happening right now that is suppressed by other distracting but truly not important issues.

[ak666]

Dunno, I'm coming at this from an immigration perspective instead of an emigration perspective. I'm born and raised in Japan but spent my high school and university years in the U. S.

From my observations in Tokyo, what I see are a lot of good-looking Western guys who probably did reasonably well at home pulling Japanese girls. They came to Japan to work, not to catch girls.

I know the type you're talking about -- the kind of sweaty, overweight rich guy who has some super young Japanese girlfriend, and those most certainly fit.

But from here you see plenty of guys from other parts of the world who seem like they'd do well enough with the ladies end up with a Japanese girlfriend or possibly even a wife.

It's like in the U. S., if you see a foreign guy from Europe or Asia or Australia or wherever hook up with an American girl, do you assume he only did so because he could not find a girl back home?

That's like the difference between the immigration/emigration kind of perspective.

[BronzedAdonis]

no because western white women are the top of the food chain worldwide (no racist)

As a general rule its easier for men to date down whereas women want someone equal or superior

[ak666]

Ah I see... but even dismissing that standpoint of the American immigration POV, I think if you come over to some of these countries, you see your share of Western guys who are stylish and suave getting together with Eastern girls who don't seem so desperate. The ones who end up bringing their Eastern girls back home soon after might be another story.

[ak666]

I think simple rule of thumb: look at girl, look at guy -- see if something seems really off. :-D

[JCT666]

Yup. You might notice that these western men who seek foreign brides (particularly from South-East Asia) are the fat, older, creepy looking divorcee type of men who have had a hard time with girls in their own country. You hardly ever see the young, good looking and social western guys with Asian women, because they're dating girls in their own countries no problem. At the same time though, these Asian brides see these guys as a ticket out of her 3rd world country as well.

[BronzedAdonis]

I see plenty of young white guys dating east Asian women where im from. Admittantly they aren't good looking or seem especially social

[JCT666]

Usually those young white guys you speak of who date Asian women aren't desirable to white girls and have some weird obsession with anime/manga.

[BronzedAdonis]

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[OlderAndWiser]

Of course there are people who date partners because they perceive the partners are desperate and needy. But Eastern women are not all "desperate and needy" and there are western women who are "desperate and needy." There are Asian women who are very successful, confident, poised, and beautiful.

If you are asking about Western men who use the "mail order bride" sites, yes, those are desperate and needy guys. The women who participate in those services may be desperate, but they are not desperate to find a man. They are desperate to come to the US and to gain their citizenship. Once they are here and their status is secure, they very frequently divorce the man who brought them here; that is proof that they are not desperate simply to have a man.

[BlueCoyote]

Absolutely not. I date a girl from Asia and neither I nor her were/are desperate. In fact, she gave up a lot of stuff in order to start a completely new life with me (including the prospect of a great career in her country).
I find it extremely arrogant when people rehash all these stupid prejudices. Not every international couple consists of a 60-year old western sex tourist who tries to find an 18-year old girlfriend in Thailand.

[RJGraveyTrain]

As someone dating an immigrant I think this is bullshit and I have to wonder why you care. Lol.

[RJGraveyTrain]

UNLESS... we're talking like mail order brides or some shit like that.

[BronzedAdonis]

I don't care im just curious what other people think or if this is all in my head

[BronzedAdonis]

more like white guys dating east Asian women

[RJGraveyTrain]

Hmm I see, well personally I don't jump to the conclusion that you do.

[BronzedAdonis]

fair enough

[SuccessfulHornDog]

Where is he from?

[RJGraveyTrain]

@SucessfulHornDog he's from the Philippines

[BronzedAdonis]

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[RJGraveyTrain]

@BronzedAdonis he actually had his citizenship before he met me and we aren't married.

[RJGraveyTrain]

Oh and I'm Canadian. By the by.

[BronzedAdonis]

I'm just teasing ;)

[RJGraveyTrain]

Mhmm. Cute.

[BronzedAdonis]

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[RJGraveyTrain]

Lol okay you won me over with that one.

[BronzedAdonis]

I'll quit while I'm ahead.

[RJGraveyTrain]

Lol forgive my irritability, we're having an issue with our smoke alarm and it's spastically going off at random (and no it's not the carbon monoxide sequence) so I've probably slept fir about three hours. I'm typically not easily bothered.

[BronzedAdonis]

All good

[BubbleBoy69]

@RJGraveyTrain If you notice there are men on GAG who get off on bashing males and putting forth questions/opinions/takes which they think will be received well by women. They do this because they want positive female feedback in the form of +1 likes and women saying how they like their question or responding positively to it.

[Cosytoasty]

It's pretty obvious when it's desperation and when it's a choice.
Desperation
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Choice
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Actually the desperate ones can't get foreign women that grew up in their own country.

[BronzedAdonis]

you have a point but I usually don't see a WM-AW couple of approximate attractiveness.

[Levin]

Maybe those men desire reasonable power disparities between them and their partner. Western women have empowered themselves. These men aren't sufficiently powerful to create a polarity between themselves and Western women? Speaking in general terms, of course.

[BronzedAdonis]

good point, anything else to add?

[Itsmeyay]

I personally travel a lot, I have found that my own culture is boring now. So I want something else. Had lots of girlfriends, lots of potential wife's, never one I really wanted to marry. But probably will marry into another country, or she could come to my country but it really sucks over here.

[chigurl33]

I think it's mainly behaviour and upbringing... women from other countries tend to be more respectful and don't care about looks as much. I'm a total brat to my the older generation but to people my age and people from Europe I'm like an angel.

Some could be desperate though

[Phoenix98]

No I think why restrict yourself to only women from one part of the world I mean there are wonderful women all over the world. It seems kind of silly in the grand scheme of things to say no I can't do that because I am from here and you are from there.

Now if your talking about like dating/marrying people who have come into the country like in Europe with the immigrants or doing stuff like mail order brides then I will agree with you that type of stuff is messed up.

[Turquoise46]

Do I think my neighbor who met a woman while he was working in Thailand, fell in love, married her and brought her to the US was desperate? No. Jeez. What a silly thing to ask.

I'm not aware of any "pedestal" for Eastern women. Maybe cuz I'm not a guy.

[JohnDoe3000]

Kinda yes, it's mostly men who didn't do so well with women in their own countries (sometimes because they want a really submissive traditional housewife and sometimes because they're just not desirable) and the women often come from poor backgrounds.

[ADFSDF1996]

Nope, if both truly love each other then it's not really being desperate. It's kind of hard to interpret what "western men" means because it could mean White men living a western country East Asian men that were born in a western country and live a western country etc.

[TheFlak38]

Because they are desperate cucks. What they don't realise is that Asian women are the biggest gold diggers on Earth.

[BronzedAdonis]

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can you pleas elaborate?

[RandomBritishGuy94]

I think women who ask questions like this take it as a personnel insult that they aren't the only choice in the world.

I have an uncle who married someone from China and she's hardly a stay at home mum (they met well she was doing a degree in the UK uni).

Frankly if your that worried about it you should be upping your game to win men. The days where men have to win you is fast coming to an end.

[nalaa]

I mean depends obviously but ya in some cases it's very obvious

[BronzedAdonis]

care to elaborate?

[nalaa]

Well you know isn't it obvious in the case of like mail order brides?

And I don't think dating someone from a different country itself is desperate but specifically seeking it out is

[BronzedAdonis]

? please elaborate on that final point

[nalaa]

well what is unclear?

[menina]

I think they might not being able to meet, date and marry women from their countries for some reason. So, they turn to foreign women.
Or, they might actually be in love with a woman who's not from their country. It happens.
Anyways, I see nothing wrong with it. It's their life and they deserve to find their happiness.

[gobsmacked3]

I think it is more regrettable that people have attitudes like yours where you put people on pedestals while diminishing others

All Humans are equal :)

[BronzedAdonis]

peace, love and brotherhood man

[IceCubedude]

western women are turning into men, most have no class, no respect and have an attitude not to mention the loads of men they dated, i can see the appeal in marrying a virgin chinese girl who is nice and submissive and has no problem being a nice wife, something the west can't offer these men.

[ibodi]

Somehow it is easy to take them but who know the world.
sometimes change place that seem jump to heaven from hell.
But I think he is out what I think.
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[Paris13]

Of Course Not.
No More so than when Middle Eastern Men Here, dear, Marry a Christian From the USA. It's Called... LOVE.
Thanks for the Kind Invite. xx

[Paris13]

Thank you for the Like, dear. xx

[Anonymous]

i dont think that they're desperate.

maybe he just wants something different or maybe he wants mixed babies. most mix blooded people are so good looking in my opinion.