Yes, I do follow traditional gender roles
Yes, for the most part
Sometimes
No, for the most part
No, I don't fit traditional gender roles at all
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Some of them.
I cook, clean, garden, I can sew, and I generally spend more time in the kitchen than anywhere else in my home. I'm a pretty good house-keeper, and I don't mind (and even enjoy) doing household chores on a regular basis.
I am pretty 'feminine' in some respects--I like to dress 'womanly'; I'm not into sports; physically, I'm weaker than guys, and probably most girls; I expect guys to make the first move when it comes to dating, and to be the more dominant one in the relationship.
However. I'm not the most nurturing and compassionate person. Emotionally, I can be a bit of a block of ice--I can't even remember the last time I cried... must've been years ago.
I'm logical above all else. When faced with a dilemma, I reason things out according to cold, hard facts and statistical probability rather than my personal feelings or desires on the matter.
I'd rather focus on career-building--I don't fancy the idea of raising a family (little kids annoy me very, very much).
I'm honestly confused as to what gender norms are these days. Which is a good thing, in my opinion.
I am compassionate and empathetic - typically female traits. I am also very practical and a linear thinker - supposedly more masculine.
In my relationship, my partner and I are pretty equal and both engage in decision making, completing tasks, etc. I suppose in one way we challenge norms is that I am, and will probably always be, the primary income earner (I'm a lawyer and my partner is a musician). We have discussed having children, and he's open to staying home with them while I work ;)
For the most part. I mean, I usually dress casual. Not masculine, anyway.
But I don't serve food to friends of my brother. Occasionally my brother's friend will ask if I can make him food. I tell him that if he wants it that much, he should make it himself. The only exception is one time when I offered him tea and he accepted.
I personally try to, except that I'm in a period of my life where I basically abstain from relationships. If I ever get back into the dating market I'd really only be interested in more traditional women.
Tradition is around for a reason, people were on average happier and more fulfilled in those roles. Most notably women were much happier, men report about the same levels of happiness since the early 1900's but for women that has declined steadily since about 1940.
There's good science on this, a paper called The Paradox of declining female happiness is a great longitudinal study on this.
HAHA lmao first off, women were SUPPOSED to be happy. It was seen as ungrateful to not be and since men were the main breadwinners, they did everything to please them. So that effected whatever study you're reading from, secondly, we didn't realize we were being oppressed and missing out on all life has to offer. If you lived in the 40's, youd probably resent your wife for being so dependant. Women aren't "one size fits all," and many of us (most of us) like our independence, we LIKE holding positions of power, we LIKE working, so get tf out of here with your sexism
@chloehatespeople So you're saying women didn't have to work and men provided for them and they got to raise a family in a safe environment and that somehow that made them deeply unhappy, but they reported that they were happy in studies of womens happiness.
And then after womens lib and years of giving women more rights, and them now having to work to support themselves and marriage and family on the decline, they're somehow happier but the same studies they report that they're less happy - because... reasons?
And what is more if you compare mens happiness vs womens, not only is womens happiness relatively declining, what you find is that absolute happiness vs men is lower.
You tell me it's not one size fits all and then you say "most of us like our independence", actually statistically more women in the aggregate feel less happy having to work and most of the working women aren't in positions of power, most of those people are men. The average woman is doing pink collar work.
No what I'm saying is that study was affected by social norms.
@chloehatespeople Can you explain what you mean by that exactly? It sounds like a feminist buzz word and given how you're using it I'm not even sure you understand what it means.
The science is meta analysis of many different longitudinal studies performed over the years which all show the same trend. it shows mens happiness basially stay the same, so how can the study be affected by "social norms" whatever that means, when one data point remains static? if social norms affected this then surely they'd affect mens results equally?
If you contest the results then what exactly do you use to contest them with, are your beliefs ideological such that greater freedom necessarily = greater happiness, or do you have some actual data to back it up with? And if you do, why is that data not also affected by "social norms"?
Jesus fucking christ do you really think "social norms" is a feminist buzzword? Its 100% fact that during different time periods there's a "normal" social behavior or what is considered that because its common. Im saying that depression was a taboo and that effected whatever study unless what study you're referring to somehow measured direct oxytocin levels in the 40s-60s
I guessed A. I'm really manly, have a beer gut, a nice full beard, only work out my biceps and chest, drink consistently, fart at inappropriate times, eat almost solely meat, go fishing, and drive pretty well.
I don't know how to work on cars, grill, and I also date ladies and men... SO I guess that's not stereotypically male in my society. I think that's most of it.
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I do happen to fall in line with traditional gender roles in certain aspects of my personality. However, I will say that I don't follow them, because...
a) Even in the cases that I do happen to follow traditional gender roles (such as being dominant, assertive, blunt, and outgoing in nature), it isn't intentional. I simply am who I am, and I give traditional roles no conscious thought.
b) In principal, I despise the idea that someone should be confined to certain traits and roles based on which genitalia they happened to have been born with.
I second this.
Yes!!! You do you and let others do them!!!
I was most happy in my life when my wife was working and I stayed home to take care of our newborn baby girl. I took care of her 24/7, got up with her at nights, took her to doctors, and spent most of my time with her, taking care of her, playing with her, and teaching her. She's so much bigger now at 10 years old, but being her daddy and doing everything I could to take care of her, and teach her, and help her be a strong and intelligent and capable person, and making her as happy as I could (without "spoiling" her all the time, of course) has made me happier than I could ever have imagined. I'm glad my wife decided she wanted to work, and I was able to have that time.
Sushi rolls not gender roles💘 im glad your daughter is happy and healthy!
Yes & No.
I'm a woman & I feel that's it part of my job as a woman to be nurturing, to sometimes stroke my man's ego so he feels like he is King because in my eyes he is the Man, my Man and he's the King, my King
Men want to feel nurtured, cared for, and safe. I'll do all those things for my man
As for traditional house slavery, I haven't had that issue thus far
Sometimes, in my relationship its pretty split, I do clean and i do cook however he does too! I let him hold the door for me when he wants because I feel like its a nice thing to do however I will hold the door for him too.. mostly because I hate going in first sometimes lol.
For the most part, probably not.
I like to cook dinner sometimes, I don't mind cleaning (came from a military family upbringing), I enjoy talking, etc etc.
And the most important thing is I don't care if my girl makes more money than me, as long as I get my career then I'm a happy camper
For most of the part, yes. I like traditional in general. But I still think keeping it completely traditional and black and white would be lame as like ''women can't wear pants'' or ''women can't wear work' ''women can't choose for themselves'' or ''men must not show emotions'' I think its great that we are more free. A healthy balance its fine.
I don't.. I'm a single mum, done it all myself.. I'm not typical wife material either so I'm happy going at it all alone. I won't spend hours in a kitchen, I'm quite a firm mum, defo not a mum type.. I'm also a total tomboy, i prefer guys activities. And I'm not a doormat, I won't take shit from anyone, I please myself I wouldn't change for a guy ever. I want something fixed, I'll do it myself. No flaffing around in my house lol
I am kinda just naturally both in a way. I like to grill and i like to cook for my girlfriend or boyfriend, i like to sew (but thats probably due to my family owning a dry cleaners), i like being dominant and submissive, i like makeup and i like dressing more boyish. Im just a very "balanced" person
It's funny, 15 years ago most people would have answered no for sure. But the pendulum has begin to swing back because people are beginning to realize gender roles existed for centuries for a good reason... they work. Feminism has made women LESS, not more happy, and relatively speaking men are less happy too, albeit not by as wide a margin. Gender roles work.
@ladsin You didn't read any of it, did you. It's hardly personal opinion; it was a very significant and well respected study. Perhaps you'd like to go back and try again...
@ladsin Since you are clearly too lazy to read beyond the title, allow me to link you directly to the study referenced several lines into the initial link...
http://www.nber.org/papers/w14969
@ladsin Bullshit. If you had read the whole thing you would not have responded that it was an op-ed piece. Nice try...
gender roles are subjective...
I don't try to emulate/or fit any particular role that mass media and mass marketing thinks I should (how to act, what to wear, etc.). I'm my own person...
So to answer your question; what role do I follow? My own...
When I was growing up, my mum was the handyman around the house - and she still is. She always taught me - as I'm the only daughter - that I can do anything a man can do. If i can read i can learn how to do anything - so I guess I have learnt from her.
I've fixed plumbing issues, electrical issues, car issues. My home depot has classes every weekend teaching you to do different things and my mum and I will pick a class and do that.
In most respects.
Sometimes.
Like i lead her where we go and what we do most of the time. I take initiative when someone needs to step up.
On the flip side i do the cooking and choose clothes for her lol.
I don't but my mom does, and I respect her for that.
Because it's a lot to do, yet she manages to do it.
Good question - I am probably E - I look after my mother who is in her 90s now so I fulfil most of the housekeeper roles in the house as she is unable to do most of them.
Yes, I very much am a conservative person when it comes to gender roles and family.
I voted A. However, I'm all for women working and having careers if that makes her happy.
I'm a consultant who travels widely including overseas. If I followed traditional women's roles in some of these countries, I would not be able to do the work I do. I respect customs--such as wearing modest garments in countries where this is important, but I will not accept being treated as a subordinate person.
I'm sorry, what studies? Give me a site or something. Also, give me some examples on how feminism has messed up relationships please.
My wife and i do, and there is nothing wrong with it. The ones that have issues with people following the roles the ones that say it's wrong are best avoided and ignored.
Women are happiest at home raising children, cleaning and being house wife. Studies prove that women are happier doing that than focusing on a career/focusing on feminists values.
If none of you lot can see how much feminism has messed up relationships and gender roles then your are part of the problem. We need to go back to the old linear classic system if you want to see a better world for your future children.
@ladsin If we live in a world where people are allowed to do what they want that can either hinder/damage society, economy, civilisation or the world, then it only becomes destructive and breeds chaos. Look at ISIS, they want to do what they want and destroy the world. Control and public order is necessary for whats 'best/works/right/good' for humanity... not what people want.
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