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Why does it feel like women are being condemned for wearing makeup? (Page 3)
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Because women pushed so hard for natural beauty that make-up stopped being a choice. Much like women pushed so hard for the idea that SAHM aren't "real women" that now being a SAHM is not really looked highly upon for those who have high accreditations.
Because you're overly sensitive, which in turn is also why men are actually being condemned for: manspreading, mansplaining, manterrupting, male gazing, misogynistic online terrorising, hate-speeching and a whole host of other things.
It ‘s not the makeup, it’s the on-the-make. Women present themselves but somehow want to attract attention only from Big Daddies and give the rest of us cold stares and lectures on women’s rights when WE dare take notice of them!!
I have never had anyone critiquing my make up. But I do once in a while hear the passive aggressive "I like it when women look natural" or from women "I don't wear makeup because I don't want to look like a clown."
My thought is fuck them.
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@Selenia1021 She is an old lady! My love and baby.
You can choose to take everything personally, but the plain and simple truth is that we JUST DON'T LIKE MAKE-UP.
Nobody's persecuting you, nobody's prosecuting you, you're just doing something that nobody likes.
You get these comments online but in real life say if I put make up on when I'm out clubbing or whatever I get at least 80% more guys walking up to me
@victoriaxoxo Those guys want sex.
The only attention your make-up attracts is the kind you don't want.
"Attention you don't want"?
What is this the 1940s?
@victoriaxoxo I don't know what you think you mean, you weren't alive during the 40's, you learned about the 40's from what? TV? Movies? Books?
Here's exactly what I'm talking about though, so there's no misunderstanding, I just want to be clear what I'm talking about:
There are human beings who are like predatory animals, they view other people as either threat or prey, most of them view young pretty women all dressed up and made-up as easy prey, and they're 100% right. Your shoes aren't good for running, your dress binds your legs together, you can't run, jump, climb, or kick, you're not prepared for a nicely-dressed, good-looking psychopath who's going to charm you and flirt with you and push all the right buttons and lure you off someplace where he's gonna crack your skull open and love it.
Do you have any fucking idea how many of these predators there are, cruising around, raping and killing girls every week? Thinking and calculating down ONE TRACK. You think you're safe? Ever?
@victoriaxoxo When you put your make-up on in the mirror, you see it from the perspective of a nice young woman who's trying to look good and that's all fine and good and well.
There are human predators who see your make-up from a completely different perspective and it's so alien, it would likely shock you. They see you and start sizing you up as prey immediately, they look at your appearance and demeanor and start psychologically profiling you to guess which approach will result in the highest chance of a successful kill. Or rape. Or torture the fucking shit out of you and mutilate you, or throw acid in your face.
BUT WAIT! You might not be aware that the FBI and DOJ's own crime stats show that consistently, about 25% of all rapes are perpetrated by or with a female accomplice, meaning there are women who, whether through mental illness or drugs or simple mind control, are used to lure suitable prey to the agreed upon location where the prey is to be ambushed.
You start studying criminology, you learn that these human predators can be extremely perceptive and psychologically educated to the point that your make-up can cue them as to whether they should approach you in an aggressive, domineering way, or a friendly, non-threatening way. Whether they should ask you for help or whether you'd be more easily disarmed by a humorous approach.
There were girls who were abducted by Ted Bundy, a famous serial killer of exactly the type I am attempting to describe, who managed to fight back, and escape, and therefore survive, and tell us what happened instead of just being a found corpse the next day.
They all said much the same thing about Bundy: How nice he seemed, how friendly, sensitive, shy, but very polite, well-spoken, witty, charming, and well-dressed, with just a certain plucky twinkle in his eye that they thought was cute. And they got in his nice car, and then he grabbed them by the hair and slammed their skull against the window.
And I see girls all the time talking about how there's a rape culture, and all men are potential rapists, and boys rape because they were never taught that it was wrong, and it's all completely retarded crap.
The guys doing the raping 100% know that it's wrong, they don't need to be told, or taught, they already know, and they don't do it because there's some sort of culture that tells them it's "no big deal." They do it because it makes them fucking feel good. They like it. And if some of them team-up, or a greasy Texas football coach decides to cover up for his star players all gang-raping the special needs girl, whatever the disgusting situation may be, those men (and women) doing that stuff are doing it for personal gain, personal pleasure, because they're fucked up in the head, and you'll never know when you run into them, because the ones who are the most intelligent and the most dangerous know how to seem normal. They're skilled mimics that can even fool trained professionals.
Honestly you have watched too many movies. I go for midnight jogs at 2am and almost always walk home from clubs alone. The likelihood of encountering someone so twisted is so minimal that I refuse to live in fear. I don't think a serial killer who sets out to murder someone that night will be stopped by a longer dress or a lighter eyeshadow.
I'm probably the most dangerous creature in my immediate vicinity especially when I'm walking down the road with a 6 inch heel in my hand :D
How did you even relate rape to wearing too much make up lol
@victoriaxoxo The rapists relate a young girl wearing make-up to someone who is vulnerable, possibly insecure, craving validation and/or attention. They can tell a lot by what make-up you wear and how you wear it, and all of that information tells them what is the most effective way to hunt and kill you. Or worse.
As a girl, I can tell you that we don't choose our make up palette based on how vulnerable we feel or how insecure. Most of it is to do with whether it matches what we are wearing. And honestly, if someone rapes you because of the colour of your eyeshadow then perhaps focus should be placed on making the perpetrator feel condemned for sexualising something so simple.
No not really. However I find it puzzling how girls complain about men sexualising them and shit, but they plaster their face in makeup, wear miniskirts, yoga pants... I think they want to be sexualised but only by men they find attractive, if men they think are ugly are looking/hitting on them they say its harassment and they are being sexualised.
(Most) Women dress for themselves. Assuming we dress a certain way to be sexualized is weird. I personally wear yoga pants on occasion because they’re extremely comfortable. Believe it or not: women’s lives do not revolve around men.
@VaIiant sorry but I don't believe that. They dress in mini skirts, yoga pants, or lots of makeup to look attractive, duh. And they feel good about themselves when they see men looking at them and flirting.
Well yes, humans love attention. That’s undeniable. But yoga pants? To look attractive? You seem to believe women’s main priority is to appeal to the opposite sex.
Most Women dress and make themselves attractive to feel good about themselves. Not for men.
@VaIiant Yes that's what I said. They dress to attract men because attracting men makes them feel good. We are both right. (also yoga pants leave nothing to the imagination so I'm pretty sure women DO use them to attract men)
You are really egotistical and self centered, lmfao
@VaIiant How? You agreed that women feel good when they feel attractive.
I said everyone feels good when being hit on. You said it’s exclusive to women.
You’re also saying everything women do to look better is clearly for men. As a boy yourself, its self centered to assume women’s lives revolve around you.
@VaIiant Did I say women's lives revolve around men? No I didn't but men are everywhere and they are a hug part of women's lives. Also we agree that everyone feels good when people look at them, and hit on them. SO i don't get how I'm wrong when I say, women wear yoga pants, miniskirts and heavy makeup for themselves, because they want men to hit on them, which will make them feel good. What don't you understand about that?
I wear yoga pants when jeans are too uncomfortable and I want to wear a sweatshirt and be cozy. I wear skirts and shorts when it’s super hot out and I want to get some color. I do none of the above for men.
Every girl lies through her teeth to make herself look better. Your no exception
Are you insane? Yoga pants? What else should women wear to the gym. Or to lay around at home.
What about when women wear skinny jeans? Or, God forbid, a tee shirt? Is everything women do to impress men? And if they don’t want to wear any clothes, because all of them are obviously too scandalous, to “impress” a guy, and they walk around naked, it’s obviously ALSO to tease a man because everything we do is to impress guys.
I hate to break this to you- guys are desperate for girls. It’s very rarely the other way around.
Its just another way to hide blemishes and such in my book. It never really looks good to me. Similiar to plastic surgery your fundamentally hiding something about you.
It feels fake to me. If a girl wears makeup I like a natural look to it. Basically, if you look fake to me then I'm turned off. (Wearing too much makeup)
Because they are mad that they can't make themselves look better without getting accused of being gay by men and women, but we're allowed and even encouraged to do it. *shrugs*
Women make careers out of shitting all over each other. You could be the most attractive woman in the world, and someone would still snipe at you for wearing a certain shade of red on your lips.
Men shit all over women enough too. Don’t make out like it’s purely women.
@Blonde401 Look at the answers men give to women on this website, and then come talk to me. Women are WAY harsher to other women than men ever were.
Considering I’m a guru, I’ve clearly been here a lot longer than you. I’ve seen exactly how harsh men are on here. Don’t try and defend your gender.
@Blonde401 God, the ageist argument? Never stops being condescending. Case and point: I encouraged you to look at what's actually being written on this website, while you dug your heels in and told me you've already seen everything you need to. Wanna know how I know men aren't as critical of women? We have to try and reproduce with you, and there's currently an overpopulation crisis.
Ageist? I meant time spent on the website darling. Chill out and read what I say.
@Blonde401 and NOW you're telling me that I'm losing my temper while I'm here enjoying my poached eggs, waiting to go to work... I need to "chill out." Want facts? Here's facts. Your words: "Considering I’m a guru, I’ve clearly been here a lot longer than you. I’ve seen exactly how harsh men are on here. Don’t try and defend your gender." You presupposed to have expert knowledge, and greater knowledge than me about male behavior (interesting because I am a man, and have been my whole life) because you've been on a website for a tad bit longer. You not only attempted to invalidate my argument with an Ad hom logical fallacy, but then took a superior attitude and are now condescending me for telling you that you may want to study your position more closely.
Lol you’re the one going mental, not me.
You said I need to look at the answers on this website. Considering I’ve been a member for over two years, I’m baffled as to why you’re so offended that I’m simply saying I have seen the answers on this website because I’ve been here longer than you... it’s not rocket science dear. It wasn’t ad hom, it was stating a fact.
But it’s cool, clearly you’ve got your back up about women for some reason or another.
I really don't though. Women criticize the hell out of each other.
I didn’t deny that. If you actually read what I wrote instead of just flying off the handle I said ‘men shit all over women TOO. Don’t make out like it’s PURELY women’. Nowhere did I deny that women do that. I said men do it too.
@Blonde401 I read everything you wrote. I didn't deny that men criticize women, what I'm saying is that the vast majority comes from other women.
You didn’t stay that in your original comment, thus my response.
I don't condemn women. If it makes them happy then do it... don't know why guys get jealous... guys are more jealous than other women it seems. Guys... let it go, please!
... What on earth does jealousy have to do with this?
@Kkaos I see a lot of guys are just jealous of women who put all this makeup on to get attention. I mean, would guys even pay attention to the girl if she wasn't wearing makeup?
I don't think it's jealousy, most guys just think it's deceptive.
@Kkaos Regardless, I personally do not care. The guy can look elsewhere if he thinks she's wearing too much makeup.
Its a matter of dosage. If a woman wears a millimeter of plaster on her face it's disliked. It's a mask, not a make up. Who want's to get laid with a girl wearing a mask?
I get it.
Some girls are prettier with less makeup than other girls who wear the same amount. What's a girl gonna do? She's trying to win the mating race too. She puts on more makeup and thus attracts more guys.
Do what works.
It's not bad in moderation it's just when you see bimbos going to places like the gym with a full face of make up its laughable.
But if a lady wants to pretty herself up for a night out I don't see a problem
Because A: The current trend is to use too much makeup, B: Cause it creates fake beauty and C: It's no longer used to enhance natural beauty but to create fake beauty.
Personally, I don't just wear makeup because I like to look my best everyday, but makeup is also a hobby for me, it's a way for me to be artistic and creative and looking good is an added bonus.
Are they?
i would suggest more are condemned when they do not wear it
The look depends on the man. And also, putting it on badly with a trowel is offputting to everyone
I haven't had anybody to say anything about my makeup. I guess if they did, I would add it to the long list of shit I do that people don't like.
It is just like in sports.
The athletes who take drugs are cheaters.