Why is promiscuity frowned upon?

[VoteVoteVote]

I’ve noticed posts from guys and girls hating on promiscuous people, especially women, as if having a lot of sex is somehow immoral. As long as you’re using protection, being honest about your intentions, and respecting professional and legal boundaries, what’s the problem? I’m not saying everyone should sleep around if they’re not comfortable with it, but why criticize people who do? Plenty of people have religious and cultural rules that prohibit premarital sex and things like that; that’s fine and I respect your decision. However, it doesn’t seem like a good enough reason to demonize someone because they don’t follow YOUR customs. I think we should have more respect for other people’s lifestyles.

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Okay, so just to be clear I’m not asking this because I have casual sex 😂 I’m 16, totally celibate, totally clueless about guys, and just curious about your opinions!

[PoliceLivesMatter]

I believe because it simply is not about liking sex. I think promiscuity is tied to a troublesome past, poor parenting, depression, need to rebel, bad friends, drugs, etc. Many women are promiscuous as a way to get back at the world, a way to lash out. Promiscuity can lead to impulsive decision making, without using logic or proper judgment. Think of what promiscuous women do. They engage in sexual acts indiscriminately. Most of the time proper vetting can’t be done, spread of disease is much higher, mental and physical abuse is increased as well.

[mark1290]

tbf, it is the same for promiscuous men.. why do you focus on promiscuous women?

[PoliceLivesMatter]

The dynamics aren’t exactly the same between men & women. I believe biology is the main reason for the difference, with some splotches of environmental or societal influences. If a woman is promiscuous, it could be due to the fact that she has had other influences in her life to make her this way because, in my opinion, men are more biologically hardwired to be promiscuous than women. Have you ever heard the vernacular “Spread his seed”? Men can impregnate hundreds to thousands of women with virtually no downtime, so promiscuity falls in line with this. A woman on the other hand, can only be pregnant once at any given moment. This takes a huge toll on her mentally and physically so she has to choose her mate wisely, and not indiscriminately

[mark1290]

sure I agree that women can be pregnant once per year, but being pregnant and being sexually active aren't mutually exclusive.

[mark1290]

and the effects of being promiscuous are pretty much the same for both. most guys I’ve met who do that are pretty fucked up inside... same as girls

[navyrobin]

@mark don’t argue w him he’s a nutcase.

[navyrobin]

lmao

[PoliceLivesMatter]

@mark1290
All I’m saying is, the reason for a man being promiscuous is different from a woman acting the same way. I believe this difference is heavily biological. A lot of how women act when it comes to sex has to do with their primal instincts of pregnancy. That’s why women are more selective than men and more hesitant to jump the gun on sex on average as opposed to men.

[mark1290]

so why do I see women hitting on me every time I enter a bar? seriously... they hit on 6 guys at once. your theory is completely bogus my dude.

[mark1290]

I’m the one who has to stop them before they get too far. Tf

[mark1290]

@navyrobin yeah I can see that now lol

[PoliceLivesMatter]

So my theory is bogus because your anecdotal experience proves it wrong? Listen, there are exceptions sure, but that doesn’t mean they’re the rule. Just because a woman hits on you, doesn’t mean they necessarily want to sleep with you all the time. There could be a few reasons why they hit on you, and especially at a bar where’s there’s drinks and the crowd is already at a partying vibe, they could be doing that just for fun.

[mark1290]

dude... and your opinion is based on what? studies that you have selected because they favor your mindset. my anecdotal experiences are as valid as your selection of studies.. and no, this isn’t just my own personal experience. men all over America are complaining about their cheating wives or girlfriends. not necessarily in the bar

[mark1290]

plus, just because I am “Wired” to fuck the nearest bimbo doesn’t mean I will. just because I have more testosterone doesn’t mean I’ll go fight some douche.
get what I’m saying?

[mark1290]

I mean, I’ve got my morals too. I respect myself and people

[PoliceLivesMatter]

Yes they are, but how many people are on this planet? 7+ billion, and half of those are women. So, naturally, you’ll get people complaining about their cheating wives. The facts are this, women are much more selective than men, ON AVERAGE. This is based on the fact that women have more to risk and lose in the sexual realm. The fact that women can easily get abused and the fact that women can become pregnant and men can’t, has evolved women’s primal instincts to become selective towards the men they want. They choose based on a physical, personality, and character standpoint whereas most men choose on a physical standpoint. Women needed to know their man will stay with them and raise the child together and not just leave her to fend for herself. This is why a woman being promiscuous is somewhat out of character. It’s great to love sex, BUT that doesn’t mean you love sex in ALL CONTEXTS

[PoliceLivesMatter]

@mark1290
Exactly, you’re right. Just because you are “wired” doesn’t mean you will, so despite choosing not to, the FEELING, deep inside you exists. Why is it there in the first place? Because evolutionary biology made it so. It’s the same with women. Even if a woman doesn’t necessarily incline towards promiscuity biologically, life experiences and traumatic events can lead her to using promiscuity as a way to lash out or vent her emotions.

[mark1290]

yes, women are more selective to have sex with THE MEN they want to sleep with. Men. Plural. women aren’t “wired” to choose one mate for life. and that’s not the exception. most women don’t lose their virginity until marriage. it is even frowned upon, being a virgin if you’re older than 20 makes you some kind of outsider whether you’re a male or female

[mark1290]

lmfao. men who go through traumatic life experiences are also more inclined to be promiscuous because they’re emotionally damaged. I wish I could agree that only women experience this but life has taught me that men who sleep around are as FUCKED in the head as sluts are

[PoliceLivesMatter]

“I mean, I’ve got my morals too. I respect myself and people.”

That’s kind ironic that you would use such a derogatory term such as “sluts” don’t you think?

[PoliceLivesMatter]

Either way, my point stands. Promiscuity, which is INDISCRIMINATE sexual acts is not natural for women. Women are SELECTIVE, NOT INDISCRIMINATE. That’s what we’re talking about here. Do you know how many men are willing to fuck almost every hot woman they see on the street everyday? Almost all men think about it but don’t do it. Contrast this with women, and you’ll see women being creeped out from even a random attractive man being sexual towards them. Women, on average, want and need the element of TRUST before getting intimate with a man, whereas men, on average, don’t need or require the element of trust.

[mark1290]

men who sleep around are sluts. women who sleep around are sluts. I am civil towards them, but I’m not gonna pretend that they’re some kind of hero or respectful people

[PoliceLivesMatter]

Now, you’re misusing the term “sluts.” We both know “slut” is used to describe WOMEN, not men. Don’t misuse it

[PoliceLivesMatter]

Perhaps “player” is what you’re looking for to describe men of similar behavior.

[mark1290]

- women are selective, but they don’t choose one man for life. they choose the best men. plural.
- no, they don’t need trust. The clitoris doesn’t care whether she trusts the guy or not. the clitoris mainly exists for sexual pleasure.
- women are creeped out because they feel unsafe if a man is running towards them, I’d also be creeped out if I were a girl. but my libido would be intact.

[mark1290]

nope. I don’t call men who sleep around “players”. the word slut is undermining, but player isn’t as harsh. player would imply that the man is the one who’s being deceiving. Which is wrong on every level possible

[PoliceLivesMatter]

Are you serious? Women don’t need trust? Of course they do, I thought that was obvious. The clitoris might not care, but the woman does, and to get to the clitoris you have to instill trust with the woman first and foremost. Again, you’re not understanding. The whole post is about PROMISCUITY, which is by definition INDISCRIMINATE, which is OPPOSITE of selective. If women are selective with
either one or a few men, then that’s opposite of PROMISCUOUS.

[mark1290]

they don’t need trust if they’re looking for casual sex, dude. and this isn’t just my own personal experiences. women can have either casual sex or intimate sex, and so can men but it is more frowned upon that women take part in casual sex. it is highly discouraged.

a woman can be in a room full of handsome, well built men and want all of them.

have you noticed that women tend to say they’re creeped out by men, but when you look closer the men tend to be old, or physically unattractive. I have never heard of a woman that says she’s creeped out by some guy who could otherwise be a model

[mark1290]

you could even google “creepy guy” and most images will show you an ugly or fat man

[mark1290]

also... there are also risks for men. men who sleep around can get STDs.

[guywithissues900]

Jesus. What a load of bullshit

[mark1290]

@guywithissues900 Yep. Lol

[guywithissues900]

Pregnancy increases libido. It is an evolutionary aspect. The increase of libido led women to have sex with more men, even whilst pregnant.

Selective: so are men. Men are the ones expected to approach. They’ll select a woman depending on his standards and approach.

[guywithissues900]

@police your knowledge of this topic is quite limited. No offense.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

@guywithissues900
Even if libido is increased upon pregnancy, you didn’t differentiate whether those feelings are for the man that got the woman pregnant, or other random men she views. My guess? It’s for the man that got her pregnant. It’s the reason why I believe women get more attached during sex, because of the fact that women are more susceptible to emotional stimuli and because of the fact that they evolved to feel this way because of their unique biology. It’s almost a fact that women will mate on their same level AND above, whereas men will mate on ALL levels, below, above, or the same as theirs. Women are much more selective than men on multiple fronts, much more so than men.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

@mark1290
I can pose a question right now saying “Women, what classifies a creepy man?” and they’ll tell you a bunch of behavioral factors rather than anything physical. If a man is stalking them or into some gross kink, many women will find him creepy. Most probably. Women and men are different and react to the same issues, DIFFERENTLY. Not all the time, but a lot of the time. Sometimes society does a poor job of explaining the reasoning, so biology is left.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

@mark1290
I will agree with you that BOTH men and women who engage in promiscuous behavior are probably both defective in some way, character or maybe personality wise. BUT... the reasons for being promiscuous is not the same

[mark1290]

It’s not for the man that got her pregnant because he’s supposedly not available. He’s supposedly impregnating other females as you say. Lmfao, man you got some imagination

[mark1290]

Yes, the reasons for being promiscuous are the same a lot of the time. Lol man. How can u actually believe that?

[mark1290]

Men are also selective.

[mark1290]

Shit if it were so innate we wouldn’t be talking about this. Biology should be something that is out of the question and we can’t argue about, like for example the fact that men have more testosterone than women. Fact. No one can give arguments against it. Also the fact that men have penises. Fact. No one can argue.

But if it’s a topic we can actually debate about? Well that’s not biological anymore is it. Otherwise it would be as obvious as the ones I mentioned but it isn’t. You’re describing our ancestors behavior and that’s just a way to justify your poor decision making

[PoliceLivesMatter]

Don’t equate biology with PERMANENT/UNCHANGING. There are a TON of biological inclinations we have daily but we don’t act on it.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

By the way, look at my most recent question.

[mark1290]

This isn’t biological. And it’s no reason to justify our lack of respect. Period

[mark1290]

Wow. A sample of GAG female users who are obviously ALL female... and totally representative of the entire female population... ha. U got me dude. YA GOT ME. *sarcasm*

[PoliceLivesMatter]

If you honestly believed that a creepy guy was only an ugly or fat man, there’s nothing more to say. If you knew anything about women, you’d know a creepy guy is a guy who demonstrates certain undesirable behaviors, DESPITE being attractive.

[mark1290]

If you honestly believed that you’re going to get a representative sample from GAG, there’s nothing more to say.

[mark1290]

@navyrobin You’re right.

[Syrian_survivor]

@navyrobin stfu let the grown-ups talk :|
And I like how @mark1290 takes the word of a random girl and sides with her to give him advantage
Kinda pathetic dontcha think

[PoliceLivesMatter]

Yes, especially when he knows nothing about me and only agrees with her that I’m a nut job because I have a difference of opinion...

[Syrian_survivor]

Just leave him be
He can't even discuss like a grown-up :|
You're too good to argue with him and his thirsty ass

[navyrobin]

@Syrian_survivor Aww. You’re adorable. I love how you say let the grown ups talk yet you’re a 17 year old and I’m 22. You’re a cutie.

[navyrobin]

I said don’t ever argue with idiots because they’ll always use anything and everything to defend their “stance”, even to the point of absurdity. It’s sound advice. Some of us know better about evolution and biology. He doesn’t. And you certainly dont 😘

[navyrobin]

@mark1290 He didn’t even reply to your argument. Ad-hominem at its finest. He even brought his little minion along. What a nutcase

[PoliceLivesMatter]

@navyrobin
I replied to his comments plenty, don’t know what you’re talking about. How about this, I’m willing to have a discussion with you if you bring forth a claim and stop with the ad hominem attacks (“nutcase”). If I don’t have a good argument, I’ll agree that you’re right. Come on, let’s have a discussion

[CubsterShura]

Seriouely, a promiscuous man is as characterless and fucked up as a promiscuous woman. A promiscuous man could even be worse if he spreads some kinds STD among thousands of women in a short amount of time. As a biology student I'd like to say, stop your biology nonsense. I hate it when people use biology in the wrong way to justify their wrong misogynistic thoughts.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

@CubsterShura
Tell me, what exactly have I said that was wrong about biology?

[PoliceLivesMatter]

Also, just because it goes against YOUR opinion, doesn’t mean it’s misogynistic... I also said, that BOTH men and women demonstrating this behavior are probably flawed humans character or personality wise, BUT... the reasons for them exhibiting this behavior is NOT always the same. It could be biological, which I’ve already explained the biological aspect.

[Syrian_survivor]

She can't even post one comment without throwing at least one direct insult
That's a sign of weakness of argument and poor ability to discuss

@navyrobin A person with a mature mind, the right words, respect, and civilized thoughts is a person suitable for a civilized discussion, it's simple logic miss

Save us the headache please, if you've got nothing productive to say then rest those fingers and distract yourself with something else which doesn't involve people of a higher level of understanding, because you'll just be wasting their time and mental energy, it's okay to give up and do your own thing, don't embarass yourself
Thank you

[PoliceLivesMatter]

Ironically enough, the first one to start with the ad hominem attacks was navyrobin lol...

[CubsterShura]

You can't simply state your own theory on what may cause a woman to be promiscuous compared to men because these kind of people exist in ALL social classes and family types and it may or may not have to do with upbringing. Women are more selective in case of men? Joke of the century, because in several regions of the world it greatly varies depending on the culture, including where I live it's always the men or their relatives who are far more selective about finding a match.

And FYI everything you said sounds like made up bullshit. You know what real biology is? The fact that human beings are complex and you can't define human behavior by one statistics you found on an unrealiable source of information from 2500 BC.

Your misogyny is clear in your statements. The asker didn't specifically talk about a certain gender yet you have been talking about women more.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

Just because I focus on women doesn’t make it misogyny... It’s a FACT, that on average, across the globe, female human beings are very selective... Whereas female chimpanzees aren’t, female human beings ARE. They’re selective on a variety of attributes. Females mate up and across their hierarchies, usually not down. Men aren’t the same. What is hard to understand about that @CubsterShura?
Stop labeling me a misogynist just because I focus on one gender and not the other on CERTAIN issues. I also use reasoning and facts to back it up. It’s honestly disingenuous when you call me misogynistic because that’s not who I am. Read my comments and don’t respond with such emotion.

[CubsterShura]

@Syrian_survivor you have been telling people how to behave, but seriously look at yourself for once. If you think this is 'bad behavior's then PLM should thank all his ancestors that I didn't join in, because I don't believe that this world needs this kind of superiority complex.

[CubsterShura]

Also PLM only a person with no emotions would tell someone else to not show theirs, because if you had a bit of it you would know how terrible you are. I don't care if you think that I am not being logical enough, at least I am being honest.

[Syrian_survivor]

Not you @CubsterShura haha
I was talking about the navy girl, I'm not being superior, I'm just making sure the discussion is civilized and free of children, which you are not one of
So maybe some people can learn a good thing or two from each other
But damn... Hits hard :/ you know I wouldn't insult you...

[CubsterShura]

@Syrian_survivor did I say you were targeting me? Leave that navy girl alone.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

@CubsterShura
I want you to bring me ANY of my “misogynistic” posts and I’ll be happy to go more in depth on them. You’re labeling me as a bad person, yet you’re the only getting all of this so wrong. I don’t think you have any idea what you’re talking about and only calling me misogynistic is due to an emotional outcry because you have nothing else intelligent to say. Again, what specifically about biology did I get so wrong? I’m waiting

[mark1290]

@CubsterShura Lol he thinks he is a world renowned expert in biology. His bitch, Syrian_survivor, also believes this shit. You may be a reasonable person amongst plenty of morons but when you try to argue with them good luck. Their ego is bigger than their head.

[Syrian_survivor]

Sorry but I can't take a person who throws direct insults to think they are superior to have advantage in their argument
It's weak, childish, toxic, and unproductive

[mark1290]

@syrian Really? Now I’m the one who’s throwing insults? You’re funny my dude.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

Nope, I never said I was a “world renowned expert in biology” yet I still give my opinion based on MY knowledge. If someone comes up and argues a better point, I’ll be happy to concede and say I may be wrong. I have no idea who @Syrian_survivor is, but if you think everyone who agrees with me and disagrees with you is a “bitch” seriously, you’re ignorant and mad for some reason...

[Syrian_survivor]

I don't side with people because of their opinions, I side with the person who's sticking to the rules of a nice learning discussion
Because no opinion is 100% right

[PoliceLivesMatter]

@mark1290
You used the word “slut” and just now used the word “bitch.”

[mark1290]

No. You’re giving opinions based on your feelings. None of which apply to factual information.

[Syrian_survivor]

@mark1290 Not you! I was talking about Navy
Oh god xD

[mark1290]

You are a person who wants to feel superior towards everyone else. That’s why you keep using biology to justify your bad decision making and distorted moral compass.

[mark1290]

@syrian dude sorry. My bad

[mark1290]

That was for police by the way

[PoliceLivesMatter]

How are they my feelings? None of what I said is based on my feelings but biology. You’re losing the argument and now you’re saying it’s based on my feelings? Saying women get pregnant during mating is an evolutionary FACT. Birth control hasn’t been around for a long time and women’s evolutionary behavior towards sex evolved with the idea that sex can lead to having a child. That’s not my feelings

[mark1290]

And saying that pregnancy increases a woman’s libido is also a FACT. How do you know she wants to fuck the same guy?

[PoliceLivesMatter]

Yes it might but... the user who wrote that comment DID NOT say it was for random men... It makes sense that the rise in libido is for her husband because he is the father of her child and caretaker/protector of her and their family.

[Syrian_survivor]

Yeah the tagging system is a hassle lol
Like I said, I don't side with opinions
I just think this fighting is pointless, and think that an actual discussion would be more useful and relaxing to everyone here

[PoliceLivesMatter]

It’s also a FACT, that after sex with a man, a woman feels much more connected emotionally to him. It’s powerful. Whatever feelings she may have had beforehand, she has a deeper like or affinity towards him now after sex. Imagine what this feels like when she’s pregnant... it’s probably way more intense.

[mark1290]

@police it doesn’t because his point also makes sense. He said that if the man is too busy banging other females, the female with high libido will naturally want the nearest man available. Maybe her “protector” or maybe another man. She won’t stick to the same guy forever. It doesn’t make sense.

[CubsterShura]

None of you should care what kind of language people use here to talk. This isn't a family-friendly website where cursing is not allowed, so none of you have the right to get petty about little stuff like who said what word because IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER. If you don't like foul language then nothing to do, suck it up or join some other family-friendly website.

I would take a knowledgeable person more seriously even if they curse more than sailors than an ignorant person pretending to be some kinds social justice warrior innocent saint by carefully avoiding any bad word. Don't get me wrong, not using foul language is a great quality, but not significant enough to put an impact.

Also PLM 'speaking from my knowledge' ever wondered that you could be fed with wrong knowledge or you may have misunderstood something? Having knowledge isn't enough, you need to verify it and only speak when you know what you are saying.

[mark1290]

Most guys also feel emotional connection if he finds her attractive and also is attached to her. There are tons of girls who don’t give a shit about the guy they bang. And no, it’s not an exception.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

@CubsterShura
I only mention the foul language because of its application. He called someone who agreed with me my “bitch.” I have no idea who this person is... How is that intelligent?

[PoliceLivesMatter]

@mark1280
That’s true, but regardless... It’s been proven that women human beings are much more selective than male human beings. Sure you can find women who will bang any man that gives them attention, but that does NOT mean men and women are suddenly the same and the dynamics of men and women in sex are the same. If what you say is true, men and women would be the exact same when it comes to sex, but their leagues apart in emotional reaction and physical as well. The sexual organs between the two are vastly different and arguably account for the differences in evolutionary behavior.

[Syrian_survivor]

I agree with PLM on that
Foul language can be used to prove a point
Not to insult a person
Again, that makes you look weak

[PoliceLivesMatter]

Exactly, foul language can prove a point, BUT... the usage of it here was to insult a person unnecessarily

[CubsterShura]

@Syrian_survivor is my friend and I have been knowing him for a while, and I can assure you that he has no bad intentions but there are just some stuff that he doesn't understand yet. It's okay, I acted the same way when I was 13 and new to online forums.

Plus, if you can say something like "Many women are promiscuous as a way to get back at the world, a way to lash out." He sure as hell can use the world bitch that way.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

Just like people use drugs, alcohol, etc. as a coping mechanism or way of lashing out at the world, women use promiscuity as well. The world says promiscuity is bad, and the women who have felt the world has treated them unfairly, rebel and act against the grain of the societal norms, hence... they use promiscuity as a way to lash out at the world. Not all women, but many do.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

“Many” can be 1,000 or 10,000 women. There’s no specific number, but there’s 7 billion people on this earth, half are women, so many can be independent of the 3.5 billion or relative to it.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

@CubsterShura
I’d love to have a good discussion with you if you don’t mind. I apologize if my opinions created some misinterpreting issue, but I assure you I’m not misogynistic. I’ll be happy to give you my name and do a more formal introduction via PM if you’d like.

[Syrian_survivor]

@CubsterShura that's pretty rude, why are you even saying those things?
I wouldn't risk a friend to win an argument :/

[mark1290]

That’s the thing. You’re focus is on promiscuous women. You are implying that only promiscuous women have traumatic pasts. But promiscuous men probably have even more bad experiences so that’s their own way to lash at the world too

Hey take me for example. I’m horny most of the time. Obviously. I’m young and I’m a male. But I don’t engage in promiscuity because that would hurt my dignity and integrity. As weird as this sounds, I respect my own body and even if I wanna bang 5000 women, I’m not going to because I know that it’s easy for women to use guys for their own satisfaction. They know that a man’s weakness is sex, so they use that and then you look like the dumbest naive clown in the world.

It’s the same for girls. Lots of them are careful and should be. Because casual sex is for people who are damaged and rotten inside. Who are superficial and only want short lived pleasure. That’s not me and a man who respects himself doesn’t get into that either.

[mark1290]

Your* sorry.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

That’s true for some men, BUT... I already explained why promiscuity in men can be explained by biological past, whereas for women, it’s not so linear/easy to use biological reason to describe promiscuity in women. Now, if you were talking about female chimpanzees, you’d be 100% right, but female humans and female chimpanzees are NOT the same, in selectiveness.

[mark1290]

No, it’s true for most promiscuous men. I think all promiscuous people have psychological issues and it makes perfect sense. even if our ancestors would fuck 100 females that doesn’t mean they weren’t fucked in the head too

[PoliceLivesMatter]

That’s my point @mark1290, there are MANY reasons why INDIVIDUALS are promiscuous, men and women alike, BUT... GENERALLY SPEAKING, promiscuity in women isn’t as biologically explainable as men exhibiting the same behavior. Promiscuity meaning, “indiscriminate” sex. Women don’t have indiscriminate sex ON AVERAGE.

[mark1290]

I get your point. All I’m saying right now is that women and men are equally messed up if they decide to sleep around. They have traumatic pasts or they want to “lash out” at the world as you say. And I already explained how women behaved too in the past, they were also promiscuous. I don’t see why the dude has to be “less” messed up or “less traumatized” if he’s equally promiscuous. That’s all

[PoliceLivesMatter]

Yes, I think I can understand your point but I want to know how you feel about this. If a man is promiscuous it could be because he was biological programmed to be so, whereas a woman being promiscuous isn’t biologically programmed to do so. So, if she’s not, what can cause it?

I’d like to know what you think about that

[latinabutterfly96]

No PLM. You’re not a biology expert. And your knowledge is poor. Put your ego aside for a bit babe. Love ya. x

[PoliceLivesMatter]

Latina!! Lol, now the party is getting started

[latinabutterfly96]

I know right? Everyone here is right except you. You little munchkin! 😘 Love when people are getting educated.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

Lmfao “sure”
I’d happily admit you’re right just to make you happy Latina

[mark1290]

No. If a man or a woman is promiscuous is because their ancestors were promiscuous as well. Lol it’s not exclusive to guys, man we went through this.

[mark1290]

Yeah dude you’re actually getting educated but not if you are in denial Lmao

[latinabutterfly96]

Lol. Yes, it makes me elated! But not because you “admit” it. I don’t need you to; I already know. Lower your pride, you sweet thing. I want you to learn! 🤗

[PoliceLivesMatter]

I already told you for the 100th time, the sexual organs of men and women are DIFFERENT and have evolved DIFFERENT evolutionary behaviors. Men can impregnate multiple women in ONE day, one week, one year with little to no repercussions except STD risk. Now, for women on top of a limited amount of eggs, can get STDs, AND become pregnant. Which means... TA DA! They are MORE selective.

[latinabutterfly96]

Anyway. I had a good laugh at this thread. Nice try Little Mr Policeman. 💋

[PoliceLivesMatter]

I love you Latina

[latinabutterfly96]

Love you too. Keep getting educated and keep reading. Don’t let that little cute pride of yours get in the way ;)

[PoliceLivesMatter]

Can I have a kiss from you Latina? To keep me in check of course

[mark1290]

lmfao
you don’t understand anything dude. your supposed ‘knowledge’ will always stay that way: apparent and limited.

[mark1290]

seriously. she sounds like your freaking mom because it’s hard to take you serious

[PoliceLivesMatter]

@mark1290 let’s just agree to disagree

[mark1290]

Of course we will. nothing else to do about him Latina. He’s ruined forever. Sorrrryy...

[PoliceLivesMatter]

Lol, you had to get one more punch in... Still waiting on that kiss Latina

[CubsterShura]

Ok listen PLM, I get it someone really fed you with wrong information or your hypersexual brain misinterpreted something. Verify your facts before you put them out, that's all I can tell you. Peace.

@Syrian_survivor if you want me to be brutally honest then you are just flogging a dead horse. Again, you don't intend anything bad but if you trust me enough to listen to me then don't even bother replying to this thread anymore. It's wasting your own time and energy.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

A quick google and you’ll see I’m right...
•women can get pregnant✔️
•women are more selective ✔️
•women are born with all the eggs they’re going to have ✔️
•women react more to emotional stimuli ✔️
•women are more susceptible to physical and mental abuse ✔️

What don’t you understand Cubster?

[CubsterShura]

What I don't understand is how even a tiny list of facts could get in your thick head in the first place. The entire time you made up your own theory by summing up that level of information? That's as good as saying 3+3=33.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

I literally did not make up my own theory, all of this can be googled... you’re characterization of me as a misogynist has clouded your thinking, to where ANYTHING I can possibly say is misogynistic.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

I’ll simplify all of this again...
PROMISCUITY is by nature, INDISCRIMINATE mating and/or performing sexual acts. On average, evolutionarily, women are DISCRIMINATE/SELECTIVE maters...

Do you get it?

[CubsterShura]

Leave it. You are adamant to your beliefs and proving my point more that you are trying to sum up things with very not enough knowledge to be able to do it.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

You know what’s interesting? You haven’t disproved anything I’ve said. You’ve just said, “I’m wrong” and that’s it...

[CubsterShura]

Because I did try to find out more stuff about it, and what I found out is that the things that you are suggesting have gotten old, and scientists have found new things in the recent times, and it also said the same thing like I mention many times: humans beings are complex and you can't sum up one thing in a simple manner because we are so much infouenced by our environment and things are quite different and subjective from culture to culture. Didn't find any website giving the exact info that I wanted, but I did find that the age-old theories explaining male and female sex behavior in traditional style aren't all true, at least not the way that they were told to be.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

Lol you actually nothing...
no evidence, just said “my research said what you said is not true.”
...

[guywithissues900]

“The view that natural selection has made men promiscuous and women monogamous is factually incorrect. That in many species males vary greatly in the number of their sexual partners may come as no surprise. But the same is true of females.
Thanks to careful animal observation in the wild, DNA studies, and to more careful reasoning about the evolutionary logic of various patterns of behavior, we now know that females of many species, including many birds and mammals, are sexually adventurous, have high libido, and are often far from sexually monogamous even when they live in socially monogamous pairs.”

I literally copied this from the book Evolutionary Psychology by David Buss. I like to read about these topics and I highlight the important facts. Thankfully those highlights are saved on my tablet so I can look them up anytime. I thought I really needed to put this here because you try to make the impression that you know oh so much, but you know very little. Science a black and white

[guywithissues900]

Also a random fact for those who believe females have a less sophisticated brain or whatever.

“Men and women developed equally sophisticated brains because both faced equally sophisticated cognitive challenges throughout almost all of human evolution”

[guywithissues900]

Also this is for you, @PoliceLivesMatter

“Semen from every man a woman has sex with in the months BEFORE her infant is born (suggesting what I said is correct) supposedly contributed to the growth of her fetus, resulting in chimeralike composite young sired by multiple men. Each possible father is subsequently executed to offer gifts of food to the pregnant woman and to help provide for the resulting child.”

Literally a male harem.

[guywithissues900]

This last one was from The Blank Slate by Steven Pinker.

[mark1290]

@guywithissues900
If he still doesn’t get it, there’s nothing that can be done.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

@guywithissues900
Well, take female chimpanzees for example. They are very indiscriminate in their mating, whereas female human beings are discriminate in their mating. If you look at the fact that women have all the eggs they’re ever going to have in their lifetime, the fact that they can get pregnant which is a huge toll for a woman mentally and physically, and the higher likelihood of physical harm, you can see why female human beings are more selective than female chimpanzees. A man can impregnate many women at once due to the fact of the male sex organ AND because men cannot get pregnant. I believe this has allowed men to become more INDISCRIMINATE to the partners they choose, whereas women are more SELECTIVE because of the above reason.

[mark1290]

Yep. Didn’t get it. What a thick head you’ve got, Police. You even disagree with scientific authors and psychological journals.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

I think this is partially why we separated from our ancestor ape counterparts, because we evolved certain behaviors, such as women being MORE selective over who they mate with ON AVERAGE. It’s probably why promiscuity is so shunned in many parts of the world. I think, and I may be wrong, that we have some part of our brain that detects when certain biological niches or rules are obstructed, when something is not right. There’s a reason why Tinder has such a discrepancy in which women and men have vastly different matches.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

I’m not saying women are 100% monogamous. I don’t believe I said that, BUT, I DID say women were more SELECTIVE, and NOT INDISCRIMINATE with their mating. That’s what I’m SAYING

[mark1290]

Men aren’t indiscriminate either. Otherwise fat women and ugly women would have an easy time getting a hot boyfriend. That isn’t the case. The fact that you see attractive men dating attractive women means that he selected her because she’s in his league. She’s as attractive as he is. Even ugly men pursue attractive women.

[mark1290]

No, you did disagree with them. Becaus you said women only had sex with the guy who protected her. Which means you implied that women were monogamous, and that was mostly NOT the case before. Women were were far from it. Like men.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

@mark1290
I just want to reiterate that, my point was NOT to say women were SOLELY monogamous. I only wanted to make the point that women ARE MORE selective than men, on average. On average, women ARE NOT indiscriminate maters. Just look at Tinder

[PoliceLivesMatter]

@mark1290
No, I didn’t say just that. I said way more. You’re picking and choosing bits and pieces from what I said and cutting out a lot of what I said lol... come on man

[mark1290]

You didn’t just reiterate your point. You modified it. You clearly said that women only banged the guy who protected them and that’s why their libido was so high during their pregnancy. But that’s not the case at all. I’m not even cherry picking. You did actually say that. But then again your feelings about the topic govern your judgment and you can’t even see how wrong you are.

“I only wanted to make the point that women ARE MORE selective than men, on average.”

Yep. I got that. And it’s wrong. Men are as selective as women are.

“On average women are not indiscriminate maters. Just look at tinder”.

Really? You’re now basing your so called “facts” about sexual behavior on a dating app? Are you out of your freaking mind dude?

[PoliceLivesMatter]

The biology is literally out on this... Women humans ARE MORE selective, just look it up. I use Tinder because it easily proves my point. I have affiliation with it, it’s unbiased in that regard. What you get on Tinder are women who choose a small % of men and not just anyone... contrast that with men. Men swipe right on almost all women.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

And I said that the differentiation of a woman’s libido rising during pregnancy wasn’t clear. It makes more sense why she would want to have more sex with her husband or man, rather than a random stranger. I explained why through a variety of reasons. It’s not just because he is her “protector.” Just because her libido rises during pregnancy doesn’t mean she wants to sleep with random men. There was no distinction between random men or husband, so I used common sense and thought it best it would be her husband

[mark1290]

“Women humans ARE MORE selective, just look it up.”

They aren’t. Your point has already been debunked. Did you even read what the other guy said? I also do research. And you’re wrong.

Still. Tinder is a dating app. Most women post pictures of attractive women, and obviously men will swipe right on almost every female even though they’re most likely a catfish. Men don’t do this, mostly they post their actual picture. And if a man has to resort to a dating app to look for women, he is probably unattractive. That’s why women swipe right on a small percentage.

“It makes more sense why she would want to have more sex with her husband or man..”

It might make sense to you. But that wasn’t the case before. Women would even go and have sex with other men while she was pregnant.

[mark1290]

And obviously since science wasn’t so modern, everyone thought that if he had sex with her, he would also be the father of the one baby she was pregnant with. that’s why they contributed with providing food and shelter for the woman.

[CubsterShura]

Oh god how smart does one have to be to come up with a biological conclusion using TINDER 😂 do you not understand that it is full of perverted lifeless dudes? 😂😂😂 Of course women will get more picks that way. Try with a group of men who actually got class.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

@mark1290 yes some might go and have sex with other men while they are pregnant, but I wouldn’t say that’s a general rule. It makes more sense why the majority would want to have sex with their husband even more because emotional bonding through sex has occurred, trust has been established, and she is seeing him from a different lens. He is suddenly the father of her child, lover, protector, provider, and caregiver. Of course she’ll have deeper emotions for her husband than for some random man. She’s probably more hostile in behavior towards random men, because she’s pregnant and her primal/maternal instincts are kicking in

[PoliceLivesMatter]

And yes human females are more selective, it hasn’t been disproven at all. You haven’t put forth evidence. It’s a fact in biology that female human beings are MORE selective than male human beings.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

Again, Tinder was an example of something that skewed towards women NOT being indiscriminate towards who they swipe right on, whereas men are all over the place. Imagine if this was in reality, it would still be the same. On average men would be quick to mate with many women they meet and see on the street, but the reverse isn’t true.

[CubsterShura]

Again, Tinder does not represent the real world.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

I know, but that isn’t the point.

[CubsterShura]

Then you shouldn't even be bringing up Tinder here.

[mark1290]

1. Human females aren’t more selective than human males. Keep up with the new discoveries or you’ll be the laughingstock of the science community.

2. It might make sense to YOU that she would only want to bang her man. But that’s not the way it went. Maybe you should read some books like some of us, to stay educated.

3. Tinder isn’t a good example and it IS the point. Why are you trying to force tinder as a piece of evidence and ignore actual pieces of evidence (books and journals)? Don’t get how someone can be this hard headed

[mark1290]

Also how do you explain the fact that men do in fact always look for attractive women? Do you know what’s that called? Sexual selection.

Me, for example. I’m not into boobs that much so I select women with smaller ones. I also am into skinny girls, not muscular or fat. So I select. I’m not gonna fuck any random girl I see on the street and I won’t have the desire to, either. Most guys feel this way, they have a preference and a standard.

Men are discriminate as well. Most, at least. I know some of them would literally fuck any girl that would ask him but those men usually aren’t aware of the risks involved. Men also have risks for casual sex, I pray to god that you knew this.

[CubsterShura]

Men are hella selective and shallow where I live.

[mark1290]

@CubsterShura Men are shallow and extremely selective. Perhaps more so than women. This guy is out of his mind lmao

[mark1290]

Of course, the shallowness and selectiveness is majorly influenced by culture. As beauty standards change, so does men’s standard of attractiveness. Some people just underestimate how much social norms and culture influence our thought process. Hell, some guys even say they can’t get a girlfriend whilst millions of girls would date them, but the guy wouldn’t date them. Perhaps he means “he can’t get THE girlfriend he wants”.

[Coolgirl235]

No you’re generalizing way too much. N I don't know why u are so focused on promiscuous women.

[guywithissues900]

@Coolgirl235 He’s not the only guy on this app that tries to act like men are absolutely programmed to do something so there’s nothing more to be done. It’s a flaw in his reasoning, that makes him defensive towards actual knowledge, projecting his superiority complex. In his mind (while he won’t admit it), women are supposed to be controlled and shouldn’t engage in promiscuity. But men? Totally. Go ahead! His explanation of the “so called knowledge” he’s got only reflects his lack of understanding of the topic.

[guywithissues900]

When his “theories” are debunked, he tries to modify his point to make more sense, or he repeats what he said in a more complex manner, but he’s still wrong. The latest scientific discoveries of the evolution of human sexual behavior aren’t aligned to his mindset.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

No, that’s a mischaracterization of what my intentions are. You mentioned monogamy in your links from Pinker, but that wasn’t even my point. My point is, promiscuity is reprehensible for both women AND men, BUT... the reasoning for why each is promiscuous is DIFFERENT, GENERALLY speaking. I believe this is due to biological reasons, specifically evolutionary biological reasoning. I never said women were programmed to be 100% monogamous, so I don’t even know why monogamy was even thrown into the discussion. What I did mention was the distinction between promiscuity’s definition and women’s nature of being SELECTIVE maters. They are very selective ON AVERAGE as compared to men and compared to our chimpanzee counterparts.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

THATS WHAT IM SAYING^^^

What is so difficult to understand about that? Lmfao... 🤔🤦🏽‍♂️
I can’t explain it any further than that. Trying to characterize me as absolving men of promiscuity and being a misogynist is clouding your logic.

[Coolgirl235]

@guywithissues lol yep.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

No, that’s a mischaracterization of what my intentions are. You mentioned monogamy in your links from Pinker, but that wasn’t even my point. My point is, promiscuity is reprehensible for both women AND men, BUT... the reasoning for why each is promiscuous is DIFFERENT, GENERALLY speaking. I believe this is due to biological reasons, specifically evolutionary biological reasoning. I never said women were programmed to be 100% monogamous, so I don’t even know why monogamy was even thrown into the discussion. What I did mention was the distinction between promiscuity’s definition and women’s nature of being SELECTIVE maters. They are very selective ON AVERAGE as compared to men and compared to our chimpanzee counterparts..

[PoliceLivesMatter]

THATS WHAT IM SAYING^^^

What is so difficult to understand about that? Lmfao... 🤔🤦🏽‍♂️
I can’t explain it any further than that. Trying to characterize me as absolving men of promiscuity and being a misogynist is clouding your logic..

[guywithissues900]

Mate, women are not *more* or *less* selective. You need to stop repeating that. We’ve understood you perfectly, and we have disagreed because it is incorrect. I don’t get how THAT is so difficult to understand for you. 🤔

[PoliceLivesMatter]

For a second I thought you were the smartest one in this whole chat... But the fact you don’t believe women are more selective disproves my initial believe. Do you want me to provide you with evidence that women human beings are selective maters? This is evolutionary biology 101

[PoliceLivesMatter]

No one disputes this... women ARE more selective maters. Not only when compared against male human beings but chimpanzees too.

[guywithissues900]

I’m sorry that you think I’m not smart enough then. Boo hoo. I don’t exist to appease you, mate.

Let me put it this way then. In 8th grade we’re taught that cells are made of only a circle with a dot in the middle, called the nucleus.

Later on we are told that this isn’t exactly accurate. It is more complex than how it initially two-thirds of a cell is water, which means that two-thirds of your whole body is water. The rest is a mixture of molecules, mainly proteins, lipids and carbohydrates. Then there are the structures of mitochondria, the vacuole... you name it.

You are emotionally invested in the 8th grade equivalent of evolution 101. You stopped there and didn’t go any further. Humans are *not* so black and white.

[Coolgirl235]

I’ll say that it’s not really that women are more selective it’s just that guys are more desperate and they will settle more. I don’t think women are that picky on partners as we should be.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

That’s all I’ve ever said, nothing more or less. Women are more selective maters than men, and whereas female chimpanzees are indiscriminate maters, female human beings are not. Females mate across and above hierarchies, usually never below. That’s why resource allocation, fame, and status have much more of an affect on attracting positive female attention rather than male attention. Male human beings are more so attracted to physical/visual cues from women. I’m not saying women aren’t visual and I’m not saying men don’t value other things in women, but these are observed general behavioral differences among men and women.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

But alas, let’s agree to disagree, no one is going to let up. I’m glad we were able to have a fairly pleasant discussion ladies and gents

[guywithissues900]

Let’s see. How many men who are “normal looking” are willing to date a woman that is less attractive than he is? Can you tell me?

Are you really telling me that the average male population would settle with “anything” or at least to a higher degree than human females? That isn’t just ignorant- that is utterly absurd. Most females will date a guy they find attractive and pleasant, personality wise. Most males also need to find her attractive, and in order to date her he will want her to be a good person, too.

Both are very much the same in terms of selectiveness. When you say “guys would settle more”, yeah sure they’d settle but only with the women they find attractive. That’s called selection.

[guywithissues900]

Sure. I mean, my stance is only based on the research I’ve made and the books I’ve read and my university degree. I don’t think a random google website would reach that level of knowledge.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

You do know what the word “more” means right? I said women are MORE selective than men. That means, on average, on random, you’ll find much more men willing to have sex with women who occupy all strata of living, whether poor or rich, BUT... there isn’t the same amount of women who would do the same.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

How does your stance not believe in women being more selective than men in mating? That’s what I’m talking about. MATING.

[mark1290]

Lmfao.

This guy.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

Until death mark, I don’t give up LMFAOO

[latinabutterfly96]

Almost 200 attempts to explain something so basic and this cutie won’t let go of his feelings. Time to walk away people.

Good source of entertainment. Only proves that you can never reason or argue with an idiot. Thank you!!

[latinabutterfly96]

LMAO. I’m dead 🤣🤣🤣

[Coolgirl235]

😂😂😂

[PoliceLivesMatter]

Lol name calling and no evidence... must be that I’m touchy on some truth and/or you don’t have any good arguments lol. I’ve made SIMPLE claims, NON controversial, so I don’t know what the big deal is ladies & gents

[Coolgirl235]

@police the only thing that you are right about is women being more selective sexually everything else is poop and farts.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

That’s the only point I was trying to draw... everyone is saying women and men are basically the exact same in terms of selectiveness...

[PoliceLivesMatter]

That was literally the only main point that I was making.

[mark1290]

He’s not even right about that. It would be true if even ugly women had the chance to fuck a male model. That isn’t the case at all

[mark1290]

No. That wasn’t your only point dude.

[mark1290]

You said promiscuous women were more traumatized than men who sleep around. That’s not true in the slightest

[PoliceLivesMatter]

What part of GENERALLY SPEAKING do you not understand? You’ll find exceptions to the rule, but it doesn’t mean the rule doesn’t exist... Jesus lmfao

[Coolgirl235]

Ugly women do tho, a good amount have had sex with an attractive guy. Seriously.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

No, I said I think it can be tied to certain other undesirable behaviors and I never said ALL women, but I said “MANY.”

[mark1290]

That is obviously the way you lash at us. When we disprove your claim your only argument is “there are exceptions”. Yet these aren’t exceptions, these are general. A highly attractive man WILL ALMOST NEVER want to sleep with an ugly fat women. ALMOST NEVER.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

I agree with what Coolgirl said.

[mark1290]

@coolgirl Yes of course, many ugly girls get to. But do you see that often?

[mark1290]

@police obviously many do. But mostly? Dude, that doesn’t happen. Ever.

[mark1290]

Mostly never.

[Coolgirl235]

@mark no I don’t see it often.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

Whatever the number is, compare it to the reverse. You’ll have a great disparity regardless of the rarity. That’s my point. I’m tired now lol. I never thought I would have to explain why women are more selective than men but here we are

[mark1290]

@Coolgirl235 Exactly. And he says it does happen on average. It doesn’t. Those are very rare

[Coolgirl235]

I wish I could post photos in responses.

[mark1290]

@police Strange how even the highly educated people don’t agree and you still actually believe you’re right. Maybe you should see a therapist and ask if you’re narcissistic.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

More name calling and ad hominem attacks... okay 👌

[PoliceLivesMatter]

I know I’m right and you know you’re right. Let’s end it there okay?

[mark1290]

Not name calling. Just a suggestion. I was actually worrying if you were a troll.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

I thought the same of you too.

[mark1290]

Sure dude. Lmfao, you stay in your world and we’ll just try and stay on the real stuff. Good luck to you

[PoliceLivesMatter]

I don’t need luck... I’m naturally gifted lmao

[mark1290]

... yeah. That’s what an NPD would say.

Anyway... good night. It’s pretty late here.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

If you guys are interested, check out my latest question sometime. It’ll be interesting to see the poll results

[mark1290]

Thanks dude. But for some reason this app isn’t working properly.

And... GAG? Not representative of the entire female population. But thanks I suppose.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

It’s not, but the question is geared towards males and females. The poll, as of right now, clearly inclines towards the belief that women are more selective overall, so the million dollar question would be: Why do people believe this? Assuming they aren’t as savvy in biology as those in this comment thread, you might assume that it’s because of what they’ve witnessed in their lives and what they have observed. An unspoken truth of sorts

[mark1290]

Most people also used to believe in God, at least in America where the dollar signs literally says “In God we trust.” Most of them would say they felt god in their hearts.

Just because people collectively believe something doesn’t mean it’s true. Reflect on that truth.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

There’s only one difference between the two and that is: evidence. Those who said they believed in god collectively based it off of faith, those that say women are more selective than men, have not only seen and experienced this first hand, witnessed it, but also the science and literature is out on this. I’d say that’s a distinction between the two

[PoliceLivesMatter]

Also, checkout the poll.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

And checkout the people’s responses too

[mark1290]

There’s no evidence that women are more selective. Lol. Otherwise... well i don’t have to repeat myself.

I’m good. Why would I check out a poll with no statistical value?

[PoliceLivesMatter]

Why do you say there’s no evidence? I’m 100% certain you’re wrong because you haven’t googled or searched about what I’m talking about. Checkout the poll and people’s responses, the reasons they give are very similar to identical to mine. It’s your choice, ultimately though, you seem to be hostile and/or negative towards me just because I disagree with you. Why are you so emotional?

[mark1290]

Um. I’m not being emotional. I’m stating that your poll doesn’t represent the world’s population so it doesn’t give any evidence. A random google search doesn’t either. I could go to Bible. com and people will say there’s tons of evidence of Jesus too. Books and scientific journals (RECENT ones) are a lot more reliable than a simple google search. Evolution isn’t as simple as you want it to be. You are the one who is emotionally invested in the idea that it is really just a black and white situation. It isn’t, whether you like it or not. That’s reality. If you still can’t deal with the facts, it no longer becomes my problem bud.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

Poll results are up, check them out and check out the responses too, most importantly.

[OlderAndWiser]

You want other people to not form opinions about the behavior of others because that is what YOU want. And you are complaining about people wanting others to conform to THEIR standards. Aren't you doing the very thing for which you are criticizing others?

If you don't want other people forming opinions about your behavior, you need to go live on an otherwise deserted island. This is just the way human nature is and it is unlikely to change in your lifetime.

[VoteVoteVote]

Other people certainly have the right to voice their opinions, but I’m questioning the rationale behind those opinions. I don’t understand the moral objection to promiscuity although anyone should get to voice theirs.

[BluesheepOwl]

It's best to never talk about your sex history with your partner.

[Shortstuff1980]

At which point did she ever

[Shortstuff1980]

Sorry hit wrong button.
At which point did she criticize anyone?

[mark1290]

you said it my man

[RideTheRedWave]

Bottom line if a girl lets numerous guys cum in her she is not marriage material unless the guy is desperate and can't get anyone it is like marrying a prostitute so if they choose to sleep around they have got to understand when they are older the guy is going to always choose the girl who has had way less sexual partners over her.

[mark1290]

@RideTheRedWave I agree but girls also don’t take guys who sleep around seriously. I’ve heard time and again that these guys are only useful for a short period of time and are anything but marriage material. Promiscuous people are simply there to fuck and get fucked

[MlleCake]

Well, a lot of the sentiment is about keeping women pure, and other notions about controlling women.

There are many who holds a double standard.

A lot of people are really invested in the idea that sex is only acceptable within a marriage for procreation.

And some really think if others conduct themselves differently it has some effect on the sanctity of their own relationships.

To me the only issue is the practical concerns of spreading STDs and unplanned pregnancies. But we have condoms and contraceptives now.

[mark1290]

It’s crazy isn’t it? Lots of men talk about promiscuity as if it were an issue women have to fix. What about men though?

If you could give your opinion on PoliceLivesMatter’s post that would probably be helpful to make him understand that. Lol

[MlleCake]

@mark1290 Which question? Link me.

[mark1290]

This one.

[Anonymous]

I don't know if you like STDS and unwanted pregnancies go ahead.
I dont respect thots , especially men dont respect them. They may fuck them, hang out with them etc but would NEVER consider them dating/marriage material.

[VoteVoteVote]

As per the description under my question, I’m talking about women who use protection. Let’s assume it works, as it statistically does, and they’re not getting pregnant or spreading around STDs. What’s morally wrong about promiscuity?

[pierre7i]

@VoteVoteVote, you say you are celibate so why are you so passionately in favour of promiscuity? Is that how you see yourself once you become sexually active?

Or are you just arguing in favour of it to stir up lots of arguments?

[latinabutterfly96]

Dude. This is a guy acting like a girl.

[VoteVoteVote]

@pierre7i I’m not in favor of promiscuity, nor do I plan on practicing it. It has serious health risks, but I also don’t think anyone is a terrible person who’s incapable of having a healthy relationship or being trustworthy because they have casual sex and those are the kinds of cruel comments that I see on this site sometimes.

[adeqi]

@latinabutterfly96 I'm a girl and I agreee with her

[latinabutterfly96]

@adeqi Oh god. You poor soul

[adeqi]

@latinabutterfly96 I'm not a poor soul because I'm not a slut

[latinabutterfly96]

Me neither. But I also don’t undermine the people of my own gender.

I wish there was a female word for white knight. You fit the description perfectly

[adeqi]

@latinabutterfly96 My own gender? Why should i upgrade my own gender and degreate the opposite gender?

[latinabutterfly96]

You don’t have to “upgrade” or “degrade” either of them. But to say that “IF you sleep around, men won’t respect u!! Booo hoooo!”

Seriously? Let people live their lives. Lots of men do respect women, even the ones who sleep around. If they don’t that’s a reflection of his own lack of respect, not hers.

[latinabutterfly96]

I mean seriously. The fact that you are able to respect someone only reflects your own ability to be respectful.

[adeqi]

@latinabutterfly96 Only pussies marry sluts.

[latinabutterfly96]

@adeqi Only insecure women who desperately want male approval say something that would go against the behavior of women.

[adeqi]

@latinabutterfly96 Sluts are insecure. They crave male attention everywhere

[latinabutterfly96]

Lots of them do. Obviously. As do manwhores and players, who crave female approval. But there’s also women who undermine other women. Those also seek male approval desperately.

[Cammy137]

Religion plays a major part in it. There is nothing immoral about being promiscuous provided it's consensual and you aren't knowingly spreading diseases.

[NEOTUNIA2U]

moralrevolution.com/.../

[Cammy137]

Is that supposed to be part of an argument or point?

[NEOTUNIA2U]

Just giving you an insight on things.

[Cammy137]

It's far from scientific. It wouldn't shock me if that same website also does horoscopes or provides information on the healing power of crystals

[NEOTUNIA2U]

It has been proven to me. Thanks.

[Cammy137]

Proven to you means very little in the grand scheme of things. Sorry!

[NEOTUNIA2U]

Just wanted to share. Why do you have to discount people s beliefs due to social experiment and experiences?

[Cammy137]

I discount people's beliefs when they aren't supported by science and offer no real-world value. I'm happy to listen to any point of view and opinion but there has to be some sort of logic to support it.

[NEOTUNIA2U]

There is flaw in your reasoning. ✌✌

[mark1290]

@NEOTUNIA2U

Can you explain what your link says please? I can’t open it for some reason

[NEOTUNIA2U]

@mark1290
moralrevolution.com/.../

[NEOTUNIA2U]

I dont know why its not showing on yours. The link works.

[NEOTUNIA2U]

In summary- its about Spiritual contamination. Google it.

[Cammy137]

What is the flaw in my reasoning? The only flaw, from your perspective, is that I'm not acknowledging your beliefs as been valid. I don't believe in souls, there is no evidence of them, so why would soul ties and soul contamination be something id waste my time considering? Its absolute nonsense. So don't try and make me out to be the flawed one when your beliefs are nonsensical and irrational!

[NEOTUNIA2U]

Even science proved soul, So you are uneducated.

[Cammy137]

Hahahaha WHAT! By all means, send me a link to this ground-breaking peer reviewed scientific article, oh wise one!

[NEOTUNIA2U]

Do your own homework.

[Cammy137]

You're the one making the outrageous and completely inaccurate claim, friend.
Listen, you don't have such a source so stop talking bullshit. Telling someone to go do their own homework when you don't have the very evidence you claim to have is weak and childish!
Souls don't exist. You're 39... its time to leave Neverland!

[NEOTUNIA2U]

You proclaim you love scientific facts, how come you failed to know this? Its on you, not me.

[NEOTUNIA2U]

Convo has ended, we can disagree. Bye.

[Cammy137]

You argue like a child. No wonder you believe in souls!

[Cammy137]

You claim to have evidence but can't provide it: What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence!!

[mark1290]

Your soul is very contaminated, NEOTUNIA2U

[Cammy137]

Hahaha

[ladsin]

For the same reason that most behaviors which lead to an increase in disease are viewed poorly, there are also cultural and religious reasons, but I think the former is perhaps the greatest reason.

[stuie74]

Wake up to the real world, daisy chains are gone

[xyz94]

@stuie74 Hahhaha

[ladsin]

@stuie74 not sure what that has to do with it, but I do find the gendered breakdown of the voters interesting.

[stuie74]

Unfortunately the religious society, does not count if you accept the British way of life it is what it is x

[mark1290]

lol... why do so many women downvote

[ladsin]

@stuie74 I still have no idea what you’re talking about.

@mark1290 presumably because they think it’s a judgement about their lifestyle choices although it’s not. It’s an evo-psych hypothesis based on other conclusions made about behavior and disgust.

[mark1290]

you didn’t mention women though. I think it’s more that they want an excuse to be able to sleep around haha

[ladsin]

@mark1290 that was why I said I found it interesting that there was such a strong gendered response. If gender had been mentioned in any capacity it might make a little more sense

[mark1290]

can you give your opinion on @PoliceLivesMatter’s opinion? I’m discussing with him, and he is completely convinced that women are actually more affected by promiscuity but I disagree. Men who sleep around are as fucked in the head as women who sleep around. I don’t think there is a gender gap there.

[ladsin]

@mark1290 Mm. I agree that at least historically speaking "promiscuity" or engaging in sex with multiple partners has been far more acceptable. Most societies that I can think of were polygamous in antiquity and this was one of the greatest benefits of being in power (kings and lords and chieftans had more mates than the plebes). This surely has some impact on our culture with phrases that remain like "A good key is a key that can open any lock. A bad lock can be opened by any key." Today however I think it's a harder case to make that promiscuity is promoted among men and not women. Our society, as far as I can tell, promotes it for both sexes at least in popular culture. In private homes it's hard to say.

[ladsin]

*I agree that at least historically speaking "promiscuity" or engaging in sex with multiple partners has been far more acceptable* for men.

Missed that part 😂

[stuie74]

Really

[stuie74]

We are not hippy anymore this is the real world

[ladsin]

@stuie74 I'm not a flower child.

[stuie74]

Ok , x

[englisc]

Shame has always been a lesser form of punishment to keep people from doing things that harm themselves as society as a whole.

Sure, maybe you can take all of the safety precautions when it comes to sex, use condoms, birth control etc. However, birth control isn't 100%. Some women get caught pregnant while on birth control, and condoms sometimes break. In these cases, if the woman is opposed to abortion, she ends up having a child with a guy she never planned to have a child with. These relationships usually don't work out. Maybe they aren't compatible for a serious relationship. Maybe the guy didn't want children and is an irresponsible piece of shit, so he has no contact with the kid. Either way, it's bad for the poor kid that came about because of the decisions of those adults. Children from broken families tend to have more issues and don't tend to do as well as those from stable families.

Some STDs can still be passed on even with condoms. This is why most people find it disgusting when someone sleeps around, the idea that they might be infected. If you're having a lot of casual sex maybe you get tested regularly, but you don't tend to check your partner's. It's always a risk.

Promiscuity is linked with many mental health issues including depression, drug abuse. People who sleep around tend to be quite mixed up and unstable mentally, whether this is what causes them to be promiscuous or maybe promiscuity makes them this way.

Statistics show that the more pre-marital sexual partners somebody has, the more likely they are to divorce. This seems to be more true for women than men, suggesting that a more promiscuous woman is less likely to be able to maintain a healthy relationship.

Of course also with high promiscuity comes an increased chance of cheating.

A strong and healthy societies are family-based. Healthy marriages, healthy children, healthy society. Once you lose those values you end up with broken families all over the place and broken kids who continue the cycle.

[_Varsit11]

Wow 👏🏽 Agreed

[TheUglyMan]

You finally starting to make sense

[Syrian_survivor]

Gold 💛

[FakeName123]

"I’ve noticed posts from guys and girls hating on promiscuous people, especially women, as if having a lot of sex is somehow immoral."
It might not be immoral, but it is objectively harmful. Statistics has proven that time and time again.

Promiscuous people have been linked again and again to...
... mental instability and higher rates of mental illness
... higher rates of STDs (It's a numbers game)
... be more likely to be a single parent (numbers game)
... have higher rates of abortion (numbers game)
... have less stable relationships and higher divorce rates
... have increased chances of having been in an abusive relationship
... be more likely to cheat
... be more likely to become addicted
... be more likely to come out of a broken household.

Want some sources?

cdn.freedomainradio.com/...iage_Partners_Study.pdf
-> Page 19-25. Especially Page 24-25 is quite relevant.

www.everydayhealth.com/.../...eaten-longevity.aspx

medicalxpress.com/.../...partners-linked-drug.html

news-releases. uiowa. edu/2011/june/061411paik_study. html

www.barbararisman.com/.../...earch_final_paper.pdf

www.ideals.illinois.edu/.../Saroj_Hardit.pdf
-> Promiscuity is linked to sexual aggression.
-> Page 59. "The number of sexual partners was positively related to parental violence."
-> Page 70. "As the number of sexual partners increased, so did the propensity to sexually aggression."

https://www.bradley.edu/dotAsset/165862.pdf
-> Page 4. "Perhaps the strongest personality correlate of risky sexual behaviour is impulsive sensation-seeking"
-> Page 8. Promiscuous people are more likely to be impulsive, have low agreeableness, low conscientiousness, sensation-seeking and a higher level of sexual infidelity.
-> Page 14. "People who describe themselves as more unfaithful tend to have personality traits linked to a lack of trust and empathy (i. e. low agreeableness)"

www.sociopathicstyle.com/psychopathic-traits/
-> Point 11. Promiscuity is a common symptom of psychopathy. Goes hand in hand with the other study mentioning impulsiveness as it shows it here on point 14.

[FakeName123]

ink.library.smu.edu.sg/.../viewcontent.cgi
-> Page 8. Higher amount of sexual partners is directly linked to higher degrees of psychopathy, narcissism, machiavellianism and an increase of any combination of those 3.

genepi.qimr.edu.au/.../CV262Bailey_UQ_Copy.pdf
-> Page 4, Table 1. (Note: Sociosexuality = Parameter for willingness to engage in sexual activity outside of comitted relationships)

To put it into my own words: I think promiscuity is a symptom of mental instability and is a way of self-destructive behaviour, just like i. e. obesity (not physical-health induced obesity) or cutting. It's a huge red flag objectively, biologically and evolutionary for anyone who wants a comitted and successful relationship.

Thus there is no logical argument to me that promiscuity is in any way to be seen as positive.

[VoteVoteVote]

Those are valid points, but outside of a health context I want to know why it’s seen as morally wrong.

[Girther10]

@votevotevote- it is seen as morally wrong because over a long period of time, society has determined many of the above cited biological issues have had a deleterious effect on how societies civilize themselves. Over time, these unwritten rules become morals. Things you pass along from generation to generation. The time tested behaviors that help a society to advance and be more civilized.

[FakeName123]

@VoteVoteVote
You asked why it is frowned upon. I explained it to you. People frown upon it, because it is a self-destructive behaviour. No one likes people who are self-destructive aka toxic.

[VoteVoteVote]

Yeah, self-destructive activity is bad, but I don’t know if it’s necessarily immoral. I associate immorality with a conscious decision to do harm to other people and I doubt that anyone has a one-night stand thinking “I’m going to get this girl pregnant” or “I’m going to give this guy my herpes”. Promiscuity mostly seems to be about immediate gratification even when it’s not the safest option. It seems to be based on ignorance, yes, but not malice.

[i1T2daty]

There are many stupid cultural traditions and the worst is labeling a guy who enjoys sex a lot as a “stud” but a girl who loves it a “slut”. That is such bullshit I can’t believe it still exists. Girls, in fact, are built for greater sexual enjoyment than guys. The clitoris is the only organ on either male or female that has no other purpose than pleasure, It has far more nerve endings than an erect on does meaning it can receive far more pleasure.

Women have many secondary erogenous zones than do men. They get more pleasure from having nipple fondled, often really passionate kissing. I’ve dated girls who got very turned on when I’ve drenched their ears. They have a long, slow arousal curve but the beauty is knowing it, knowing the different types of pressure and direct touch is appropriate. Most young guys ( and girls) think that losing virginity is special event. In most cases. It;s a painful sometimes bloody experence for the girl and the guy usually has cum before he;s even locked on target. Get a vibrator and use it, you can much more comfortably break your own cherry at the place, pace, and. With as much pressure you feel necessary. It’s so much easier and cleaner- more than 2 girls have told me that.

Back to girls being anatomically built for more pleasure than men, while men are often 1 and done, girls can have multiple orgasms each one more intense and coming more quickly than the previous one.

All that being anatomically true there are sound reasons why teenage girls should be a little more careful about sleeping around,, Girls almost always need to provide contraception because 2 minutes of satsfacton for a guy could mean 20 years of hard work for you, Guys will always want to fuck w/o a condom saying it feels better- it does, a lot, but it still doesn’t = the possibilties often life changing- so do not go n for it. Many younger guys haven’t learned or even wanted to learn about the art of bringing a woman pleasure,

Why it still gets derision, it’s tough being a teen. There s so much emphasis on fitting in, So many cliques and with technology to amplfy it ut’s worse. If you cultivate your sexuality some will be jealous, some guys will be intimidated by your experience. Once the jungle of HS gets over you can hopefully have some choice n where you’ll be around what kind of people.
Avoid or limit alcohol consumption before sex, it loosens you=u up but it also puts you in dangerous situations, It blocks sensation & can wnd up on Social media

[CubsterShura]

There are quite a lot of reasons.
1) No security for any child that is born. Sure, you can use birth control, but accidents happen. A woman wouldn't even be able to figure out who the biological father is without DNA test. Not everyone can afford that.
2) Risk of STDs and STIs, and of course AIDS. If I am not wrong, the first person in America who was found to have zika virus never even traveled to the place where zika was originally existing (South America), but he had sex with someone who had been to Venezuela. That person was probably not even promiscuous but it still happened.
3) Future is not secured. At the end of the day, you are still alone. A woman could have sex with men all day but will even one of them come to protect her if she is ever in need? Your looks/money/whatever are all gone and then what?
4) Difficult to make relationships. Promiscuous acts can make an actual relationship very insignificant afterwards.

These are just some things that you risk with promiscuous acts.

[BuchitaBuchys]

You are also against promiscuity - your description is doing its best to separate you from the label. If it really isn't as bad as you claim, why make it clear that it doesn't pertain to you? So ask yourself why you frown upon it too?

Also, those are pretty big assumptions you're making. 1. People don't use protection as much as they should, hence why there's a lot of unwanted pregnancies, and STDs. 2. Some people aren't honest and that's why many broken hearted women cry that they can't find good men, or men use them. 3. I don't have the stats, but personally I've seen that the more likely the guy is promiscuous, the more likely he is to have sex with an underage girl aka statutory rape. People and especially women who are promiscuous have a much higher chance of being unfaithful in marriage, which is actually illegal in some areas.

Why criticize them? Well, when you put yourself or info out in public, assume that you'll receive praise and criticism.

Personally I disagree with it because of the aforementioned risks, as well as I think sex isn't just a carnal release.

[Canadaman99]

Agree with that completely except for the anecdotal men being more likely to be promiscuous since everyone I know says that about the opposite gender and personally I've only known a couple guys to have cheated and waaaaay more women who have and who have even bragged about it in the work place (restaurants, the beacons of morality lmao)

[BuchitaBuchys]

@Kolton I've known many unfaithful men who were promiscuous as well as women

[Canadaman99]

This is my point. I agree with everything but the anecdotal men being more unfaithful. It's a pretty even split I think

[BuchitaBuchys]

@Kolton I never said one was more unfaithful than the other. Men and women have similar rates of infidelity

[Canadaman99]

Ik >_> that's why I said "anecdotal". You said from your experience that men are more likely to statutory rape someone (which is true even if you just said rape in general) and to be promiscuous. All I was saying is that I agree with everything you said except for the anecdotal experiences didn't match. Not sure if you are being defensive or if we are just confusing each other or not but I'm agreeing with you...

[BuchitaBuchys]

@Canadaman99 Which is exactly why I said I don't have the stats. Meaning that I'm not sure, but the rest is anecdotal. Personally, have you seen grown women with young men? I'm not talking about the cases of teachers fondling students, but in your personal life, do you see 18y+ old women with like 13, 14, 15yr olds? Because I can safely say that it is much more common where I'm from for older men to go for preteens and teens.

[Canadaman99]

I can say for certain that i know a few guys to have gone for grade 9s when in grade 11 and 12 but outside of teachers fondlin i do only know one dude to have gone for the big reach of 22 or 23 down to 14 i think it was. Known a handful of girls in grade 12 and univserity who went for middle schooler and young highschool age boys. So the anecdotal does not match. But more men do go for more young girls and boys so again i dont get why you are being defensive.

I simply am saying you are right in every regard, even going as far as to point out that men are not just more likely to be with minors but to do all kinds of rape more.

The ONLY thing i disagreed with is level of promiscuity so why are you challenging me on this shit that i already agreed with you on

[BuchitaBuchys]

@Canadaman99 You just stated yourself that men also are more likely to go for younger. I'm not saying women don't, but of all the promiscuous men I know, most have slept with 14, 15, 16 year olds. Which is statutory and illegal because they were all over 18. I mean it makes logical sense that the more people you bone, the more likely you are to fuck an underage person. Especially for men since women typically go for older men and men are much more attracted to youth.

[Canadaman99]

I've said 4 times now that i agree with you, i dont get wtf you are on about now

[BuchitaBuchys]

@Canadaman99 if you agreed, I don't know why you're going on and on?

[Canadaman99]

Because you keep challenging my agreeance for some reason

[BuchitaBuchys]

@Canadaman99 Let's just agree to disagree on a bit of my statements.

[Canadaman99]

Okay 😅

[Syrian_survivor]

Religion aside
Casual sex is becoming more and more popular because of gradual loss of morals, values, tradition, and respect towards others AND oneself in the world caused mostly by the media which promotes sex in many direct and indirect ways

Sex is more and more becoming the "cool thing that everyone should do" these days, and people do it because while it seems so accessible, easy, and quick for most people, it also seems very pleasurable, so they do it without any doubts because they see it as a great deal with no harm in it, not thinking about how this could affect their future, how it could stain their reputation, how it could take away very precious things from them and forbid them from beautiful things in life, for example, pure good innocent love

Some people realize that eventually, some of them would just get depressed and are forced to live their life as a sex toy so they can make themselves feel better, while others try to throw their past away and start pure and anew, but the past always leaves its marks in one's life

It's a growing social problem, its effects might be expressed with the decreased marriage rate, which increases breakups of couples, increasing the number of single parents, therefore mostly giving out a poorly raised child who contributes to making society worse

All of this critically divides society, that's why it's such a big growing problem, and you can see why it SHOULD be frowned upon

Double-standards are shit and both fuckboys AND sluts should be shamed for tearing society apart

[FragileSnowflake]

That's not mentioning STDs, rape, underage sex, and unwanted pregnancies

It has so many more disadvantages to a society than advantages

[Rangers]

Very well said

[Canadaman99]

Some people care about it some dont. Personally idc what you do until it's a case of are we going to enter a relationship. Prior promiscuity in some people can be a red flag for inability to have self constraint, others the ability to commit and faithfulness gets called into question, an increased concern of contracting STIs, the idea that if she gets an urge while you aren't around will she cheat, if she has been with a tonne of guys it can create insecurities of how you will compare and creates a fear of if a perfectly good relationship in all other ways could be ruined by your inexperience or underperformance from the quantity and quality of sex compared to what she is used to. It also can generate doubt on if you want to share something you see as an intimate connection with someone who just sees it as a thing to do for pleasure rather than intimate connection. There is the saying a leapard can't change its spots, so how long until she returns to her promiscuity, and the final point I will say, is a lot of guys dont like the idea of putting their dick somewhere a hundred other guys have put theirs before

[ChurchOfIron]

For women, it's because they're perceived to be risking their eggs.

For men, a hatred of promiscuity is probably more or less either a fear that they are manipulating and using women or a social balancing act to sort of "equalize" the hate against women being promiscuous. Typically, the social equivalent of a minx is a virgin male.

For a virgin male, the instinctual thought is, "Females control sex. If a male cannot pass on his genes, it means no females have deemed him valuable enough to reproduce." i. e. he is failing his job to propagate the species.

A premise that has to be established here is that males want sex more than females do. Or, females are more desirable to males than males are desirable to females. Social studies prove this. College campuses, a guy and a girl go around campus asking for sex. Approximately 0% of women say sure. 95% of males say "hell yeah."

Supply and demand. Women have the supply, men have the demand. Which is not to say women do not want sex. Of course they do. Thankfully. But, women want sex under certain conditions or only with high value males. Men want sex under most conditions, and with pretty much any females that will have them. Given that women reproduce 2x as much as males [and this number has been as high as 15x, through history] this shows that males biologically cannot afford to be picky.

Essentially, if you have a high value, finite resource: wait for the highest bidder and sell high.

And, if you have a low value infinite resource, sell as much as you possibly can.

Our brain's are 100,000 years old. Our instincts are 20,000 years old. They don't know that population isn't an issue anymore. To our animal brains, there is only 100,000 humans left on Earth, and we are in danger of extinction.

That's why women get flak for having too much sex. And why men get flak for not having enough sex. Instinctual impulse to preserve the species and the quality of the species.

[winterfox10]

Ummm a lot of it boils down to a few really important generalizations people make about promiscuous folks. As with any generalization, it's based on someone's life experience, or on stories that they've heard from others. Not all of these are made by everyone, of course, but they are common...

1. Promiscuous people, especially women, are generally not very selective about who they let come close, so why should someone value their connection with a promiscuous person if apparently the connection is not as valuable?

2. Wearing condoms and practicing safe sex is not as common as it should be. I know guys who have had plenty of hook ups at the bars, and simply refuse to wear condoms. This isn't everyone, but if my guy friends feel that way sober, do you really think they'll care if some random girl asks them to put on a rubber when they are drunk?

3. If a promiscuous person doesn't have good sex with you, it's only natural for them to think back to partners they've had better sex with. They are more likely to think "just sex" with someone new isn't a big deal.

[bamesjond0069]

As an older guy who has had the chance to date many people and have serious relationships and watch all my buddies in their relationships... when it comes to women, those who have slept around are terrible to be in a relationship with. When i was younger i didn't give it a second thought but at my age thinking back to every successful relationship i was in which was 4. Two were virgins, one had sex with one boyfriend before me, one had sex with 3 bfs before me. The ones that did not work were all ones with girls having more than 5 prior men. They failed for many reasons not simply cheating or something, girls just can't connect or bond properly with a man once they do it a few times. Thats my belief and id seen nothing that contradicts its. So when i see a girl going to slut around i see a girl who might as well be proud of tattooing a swastika on her forehead because id certainly not bother wasting my time dating someone who isn't going to completely trust and bond with me and have a close relationship just as i wouldn't give swastika head a chance either.

My experience as a man is that women dont specifically want a man ho, however women do value experience, so if you can be ethical to the women you are with and not have any random baby mamas and can remain free of baggage from sleeping around, women dont seem to care in the slightest. The fact i was both in a very long term relationship and also was successful at being a single man seems to be pretty attractive to women i think because it shows i can be locked down if the right girl shows up. And i think thats whats important. Its not playing the game thats a problem but acting like a playa.

[Anonymous]

It is immoral because the potential repercussions are detrimental to yourself and others. Especially others. You have your own intentions and are in control over them, but you can’t be sure how others feel, or how an interpersonal scenario or relationship will affect them or what it means to them.

What happens when disease or unwanted pregnancy results from a careless sexual encounter? There’s a large impact on either you, and/or the other person as well. Then you’re faced with other physical and moral dilemmas. It’s not difficult to wrap your head around.

It’s really a great example how “feel good” behavior and politics is ruining our social fabric. There are lots of unwanted pregnancies happening everyway, leading to single mothers, children growing up without fathers, people growing up not really understanding what it means to be “accountable.” Responsibility. But instead, everyone just does whatever the hell they feel like, until it gets them into trouble, and the cycle often perpetuates.

Very regressive behavior in actuality, when certain political figures and parties like to present their (very complimentary policies to these sorts of behaviors and desires in people) as “progress” or “progressive.”

Oh, the irony.

[Celtero]

It's overindulgence, and nothing good can come from it. Sex is pretty insignificant and easy to perform, but can have very heavy consequences. It creates life, spreads disease, and has a part in who we love, since during it our brains release bonding hormones. You have sex with the wrong person, chances are you're going to be in love with them forever even if they're a piece of shit. Even more likely, is you are no able longer to bond with people because those receptors for the oxytocin get worn out to the point of infectivity.

Plus having less partners really shows your future SO how much you really care for them. "You're so amazing, I don't want to have sex with anyone else except for you!"

[FragileSnowflake]

So many opinions from people who can't see farther than their nose into the phenomenon

Like another guy here mentioned, it kills exclusivity and honor, and it basically tears society apart because it can destroy lives and affect the general well-being of people
Stop following your instincts and spreading your legs to anyone like animals, we as human beings have the ability to control our urges and suppress them using our brain, that's what differs us from animals

People don't value sex as much as they used to nowadays, before, it was a way of expressing deep, emotional, exclusive, and passionate love
But now, it's just a cheap way to have fun, it's getting abused and it kills the value of a romantic touch between two individuals in love

In these times we NEED love, we need unity and strong bonds, we don't need to be divided because of stupid urges of 30 yo thirsty teens

Grow up and get your mind straight, be mature and control yourself before you lead yourself to a terrible life

[_Varsit11]

You took the words out my mouth 👏🏽

[_Varsit11]

This is for those mature enough in their spiritual walk to know that sex is not just a physical release of pleasure but something that connects two people spiritually, mentally, physically in flesh as one in all the ways that they are to be bonded in a marriage..

basically one is going out & marrying many people without the commitment and from this illegitimacy arises STD’s, unwanted pregnancies, broken families of divorce, cheating, unhealthy relationships, mental & emotional trauma or stress!! It really shows a lack of maturity in self control & sensibility when one is able to ‘risk it all’ for a few minutes of pleasure!! It shows that one is selfish and doesn’t think about the future consequences of their actions...

[_Varsit11]

Apart from my religious views on this topic, if one does not simply care it is their decision at the end of the day everyone has a free will..

[ROCKS128]

As long as there are people (aged ones) who start such things and keep supporting too...

I hardly believe they will live happily and let others do same.

[_Varsit11]

That’s completely their choice... at the end of the day one makes their bed and they lay in it.

[ROCKS128]

Yes. But the worst part comes as whinning, complaining, emotional drama & many more. Unnecessary people lose many things.
Good will diminish...

[_Varsit11]

That depends on one’s beliefs

[Kurαȷ]

"but why criticize people who do?"

Because if you share, promote and publicly display your values, views and beliefs, you make yourself a fair target of criticism.
This kind of questions is always posed as if people ran surveillance on others and actively invaded their homes to deride them for the ways they live their lives without affecting other people, which is obviously not the case.

The internet is NOT the privacy of your home, it is a public space, and all that you share online affects other people and said people are open to react to it whichever way they want.

[RolandCuthbert]

It isn't. Most GaGers are just fakers. Many claim to be "conservative", yet they are having sex everywhere and anywhere they can. So they pretend to hate "hookup culture" and bemoan the decline of morals. It is funny most male/female blame females for the decline of morality in Western society. But the in another post you will see a guy whining about not getting any because of feminism. It is hilarious.

It is like most of these guys can only entertain one thought in their head at one time. I guess that is how hypocrisy works.

One minute women have their legs open all the time and are ruining morality for all of us.

The next minute, they have their legs closed because feminism hates men and women won't give it up.

And that is just one example.

[Syrian_survivor]

But there are virgins who are against it too :/

[RolandCuthbert]

@Syrian_survivor I am sure there are a few virgins here. But I have the feeling they are no where near the majority.

[Syrian_survivor]

Yeah I'm in the minority so not many people agree with me haha, sad

[TonyBologna25]

Because when you give it to a guy who actually loves you, he doesn’t want to imagine you being railed and dicked down by a bunch of men who didn’t care about you enough to even know your name. Statistically it shows that you’re much more likely cheat or appreciate sex in the way it’s supposed to with your man. It really comes down to biology. It’s like you’re putting miles on yourself. It deppreciates your dating value, and whether you want to believe this or not, it does. Men might not say it to avoid being labeled as sexist, but it’s in the back of our heads. Women and men are different.

[StingRayxoxo]

Who determines morality? YOU define your own values and morals. In my opinion, most people that believed promiscuity is immoral base it off of their religious views.
I say, do what works for you. As long as you’re not hurting your own values or hurting other people, you are well within your right to have many sexual partners in your lifetime.
That being said, promiscuity and/or casual sex is not for everyone and that’s okay as well.

[StingRayxoxo]

Two downvotes? Tell me why you disagree. I’m open to hearing other perspectives.

[latinabutterfly96]

Men downvote because they’re fucked in the head

[StingRayxoxo]

I didn’t even notice that they were just from men. Oh well.

[latinabutterfly96]

It’s crazy. Men have gone absolutely insane! Lol. They blame everything on women, including promiscuity. But promiscuity requires two people, it’s not just women getting involved in it.

[Syrian_survivor]

@latinabutterfly96 stop lumping us all together thank you, it just makes you look stupid and uneducated, no offense

@StingRayxoxo read my opinion on this question, I state how my negative view on this has nothing to do with my religion, I'd love to hear your opinion on it ^_^

[latinabutterfly96]

@syrian Maybe you should read what most men post on this app before telling me that I’m wrong. You’d be surprised.

[Girther10]

@Syrian_survivor - you say that she looks stupid and uneducated, followed by “ no offense”...
Pretty rich if you ask me. An insult and automatic justification for it all at once... how does that work? Lol

[Girther10]

@StingRayxoxo- pay no attention to those guys, what you said is absolutely mainstream thinking, in our society. I suspect the downvoters are likely clueless about our culture, and probably from a different culture entirely, thus their discontent. Good luck having any of them explain themselves, they’re already hiding behind someone... lol

[latinabutterfly96]

@Girther10 Clearly you’ve had a lot of life experience compared to those clueless little boys. Only a mature grown man would say something intelligent like that.

[Girther10]

@latinabutterfly96 - well thanks for noticing, I was hoping someone was paying attention. You notice @ Syrian_Survivor likes to denigrate women- all women, so easily, it’s a sign he’s from a backward culture, I could generalize further, but you get the point.

[Syrian_survivor]

@Girther10 I just made a general rule about speech obvious and didn't insult her, I just said it made her look stupid, insulting her is unproductive in a discussion, so I'm just giving argument advice

Don't be a white knight, use your brain before you talk, and control your hormones a bit more

How did I deingrate women?
You can clearly see that I talked to @StingRayxoxo in a gentle and mature manner because she seems open to discussion and mature as well, so step aside please and leave your generalizing bullshit to yourself, thank you

[Syrian_survivor]

@latinabutterfly96 I didn't say you were wrong, I know how many shitty men are on this website
But don't generalize, because I'm not one of them, and it's unproductive in a discussion

[Girther10]

@Syrian_survivor - no, you said “you look stupid and uneducated”. That’s an insult. The real irony is that you followed by “no offense”. That’s a long way from”I just made a general rule about speech”.
Now you even admitted what you said.
The difference is Perception. what I read, was apparently not what you meant to say. I’ll accept your apology. Your screename suggests there may be cultural differences at play.

[Girther10]

@Syrian_survivor - and you didn’t “deingrate “ women, you denigrated them. I’m not sure what a “white knight” is, but racist words are not productive to any conversation in a civilized culture.
Again cultural differences in language and perception. I’m not blaming you.

[Syrian_survivor]

@Girther10 read what I said
I said "it makes you look stupid", I didn't say she was
Scroll up and read holy shit it's not that hard

And no white knight isn't a racist slur, google it and you'll know what It means

[Syrian_survivor]

My culture doesn't support discussion, so I'm not just blindly following my culture/religon/tradition

[latinabutterfly96]

“It just makes you look stupid...”

Yeah. What a gentleman.

[latinabutterfly96]

Sadly this culture doesn’t value respect and polite talk anymore. If you defend someone you’re apparently a white knight. Implying that NO man would ever stand up for someone without an ulterior motive. I find the phrase “white knight” to be completely misleading and ridiculous. Just because he’s standing up for what is right doesn’t mean he’s a white knight. Even I defend men AND women sometimes. It’s not about the other person; it’s more about something I disagree with.

[Syrian_survivor]

He disagreed with everything I said
He even disagreed with things I said that he didn't even understand, yet he still defended you

I'd at least try to completely understand the person before I disagree with them and side/defend with another, not just blindly follow my hormones :/

Plenty of men on this site agree with women because they have a good reason to, but when they don't, yet they still defend them, clearly makes them a white knight, sorry bro

[latinabutterfly96]

You weren’t polite, and I don’t tolerate that in a supposedly civil discussion. He could be a female defending me, who cares, it doesn’t mean they are white knights.

[Girther10]

@Syrian_survivor - talk about things you don’t understand? “deingrate”? Lol

[Girther10]

@Syrian_survivor - you started by objecting to the asker over generalizing, because you’re not one of them.
Isn’t that what you’re doing now? Implying that my defending someone’s values, is “just blindly following hormones”... talk about over generalizing... lol

[Girther10]

@Syrian_survivor - now if you look at it that way, you may be right- there is a “white knight” in this discussion. The white knight is @Syrian_survivor... lol

[Girther10]

@Syrian_survivor - anyway it’s hard to take someone less than half my age seriously... sorry sonny... lol

[Syrian_survivor]

Okay so now I'm a white knight now, you didn't google the meaning didn't you... Sad

What the hell are you talking about? What does generalizing have to do with me calling you thirsty? You're literally making stuff up out of pure ignorance what the fuck?

You said I deingrate women, yet I still treated stingray better than Latina, because stingray seemed to be open-minded but Latina just bashed and generalized all men to have become insane, You're making absolutely 0 sense holy fuck!

And yeah sorry if you couldn't handle someone less than half your age being smarter than you, I know it's hard, get back to school ManBaby