I think woman are more creative and fluid in their moralism while men are more binary - there are benefits and problems with both approaches but there are gender differences in moral reasoning. I mean there is a guy on my friends list who told me Trump is a good person because he hates abortion even though Trump cheats on his wives and is openly racist. That is moral binarism. I've also met woman who told me I wasn't allowed to be angry at my dad for abusing me because my dad loved me - that is moral relativism and moral fluidity. Both are wrong.
Abortion (murder) and cheating are clearly sins. Racism is not a sin, despite what political correctness says, unless it manifests itself in actually hurting others.
Women tend to have strong nurturing instincts and they want everyone around them to be protected from the world. The left-wing wants to give everyone a safety net, so it is a natural fit for females.
Guys want to get their children ready to face the world on their own, free of their mother's apron strings. The right-wing wants everyone to be self-reliant and not dependent on the government for their support. It is a natural fit for men.
Because of gender roles and social constructs. Women are taught from they're little that emotions, caring for the weak and raising children are important. The left-side promotes free healthcare and education, elderly care and welfare for the poor people. Men are taught that making money are important and owning a business helps a lot. The right-side are more business owner friendly giving them more rights and benefits than what the left-side wants to.
Mhhh... this is something relatively recent, or at least it's in my country.
I would say nowadays there are more leftist women because left parties has women as a target, and make promises or try to create or change laws that has to do with women. To say it other way, they are a company that has change their target to women and adapted their product to women.
However in the past there weren't that many politics based on identity and gender as now... and in my country beign religious, going to church almost everyday and trusting the priest's opinion was something very common for women and not that much for men. Religion in my country has always been very linked to right wing, and thereforw women used to be mostly right wingers, as most were very religious. So, when women were allowed to vote in my country after dictatorship, the idea was supported by the conservative party and not the socialist. Socialist party wanted to avoid giving vote to women because they knew most women in that time would vote right.
But in the end, nowayds it's like it's because of what I say before, parties center in a target, and left parties want to focus in women.
Men think more basic black and white concepts- making them less likely to deviate from a planted system.
Easier to control, and right wing is more about structure and staying "safe" in what is familiar.
Left wing gears more towards innovation, which women think more abstract than men do.
For example abortion;
Right wingers are more against abortion because the previous system was based off God, and that religious notion of keeping God happy, makes them feel 'safe' and justified.
Dont kill another human, born or not, since the purpose very basic for people is to live lol.
It's pretty straightforward.
But,
The abstract of that, is the conditions of the abortion, conditions of the man and woman involved, quality of the child's life if born, etc etc.
Left wing digs into the grey areas and colored parts of the spectrum of a topic, as those things are key factors too.
Problem with right, is resistance to change.
Like technology, society also needs to innovate with the times. Imagine going to war with rocks and sticks, when we have fucking laser guns and tanks now.
Problem with left, is resistance to structure.
Everyone can't all be right. Someone has to be wrong, and sugarcoating those that are wrong, is destructive to the overall wellbeing of all. There needs to be a spine and skeleton holding the flesh together.
Gender harmony is what makes the genders flow well, as men tend to provide structure, and women the materials, colors, design, etc that complete it.
There honestly shouldn't be two sides for a fucking country that calls itself UNITED.
Um, you do realize many of these things are happening, yes? That these are resultant of the laws currently being passed? Or do you pay attention at all?
Answer 1928-'32 for the New deal benefits which they were excluded from.
Then in the 60s Republican lawmakers passed the bill to the President at the time LBJ and he was a Dixiecrat who signed the CRA'64 into law. (apparently this was the great shift)
How many democrat presidents since racist LBJ? 3. Carter, Clinton and Obama.
44years after 1964? 2008. 2008-09 President elect first black president.
Clinton south Democrat, Arkansas born 1946, grew up as a racist Democrat
Carter another southern racist Democrat who announced his presidency in the hometown HQs of the Klan.
Right wingers freak out about the entire world ending due to some out of the usual innovations, and that God is going to smite the nation because gays can marry.
I hear it all the time from Conservatives, really scared to deviate because they've been taught not to, even if it is making life worse for others and crippling the economy.
I'm no left winger either. I dont enjoy being forced to be for something, or else I'm a bigot, when it's not good.
But a bird needs two wings to fly, so just find middle ground at least.
Let's face it... Women are neither inherently Liberal or Conservative.
THEY ARE GRIFTERS!
And because of that, they would align themselves with the dominant narrative in society, be either Conservative, Liberal, Communist or National Socialist, as long as it is "dominant".
It happens to be that Liberalism is the dominant narrative nowadays, even many so-called "Conservatives" embrace its rotten values (individualism, immorality, apathy and so), just as an example of how dominant Liberalism is: it has the last words on media, culture, academia. All platforms to talk. Liberalism even serves as an excuse for some female's poor choices during their lives, "I'm free to do whatever I want"... Also, they can het a lot of brownie points and social validation for repeating some Liberal platitudes.
If women don't do it, they are public shamed by most of their peers and treated as a kind of "gender traitor". If they do, they can get people's attention, emotional support, and money.
So question is, why wouldn't women be Liberal in a Liberal society?
Because the modern post-Obama left wing alienates men. The exception is Andrew Yang going out of his way to relate to Trump voters who lost their jobs to robots/automation. I feel like Bernie Sanders can do the same. I think a lot more men were leftist before Clinton and I think they would turn back to the left if Democrats started targeting men more, which other than Yang, they haven't.
I will add that there is no Republican party anymore, they have been taken over by the Tea Party and are absolute loons and/or slaves to loons and racists, sexist assholes. Even Ronald Reagan would not want anything to do with the current Republicans and he basically started this version of the right and the Bush family did not vote for Trump either, McCain criticized Trump until his death, Romeny hates him too. I remind you these people were Republican Presidential candidates or actual Republican Presidents. I haven't heard Dick Channel, Condiliza Rice, Colen Powell or any of the old Bush people ever support Trump. Even Lindsey Graham hated him and recurrently works with him. If you are still a Trump supporting Republican, get your head checked. That guy is a NOT a Republican, don't take my word, ask actual Republicans who have governed you or almost governed you. He pretends to support men but he WILL throw you under the bus if convenient. Just look at how he treated his own Vice President and his own lawyer. No matter who is the Democrat nominee, they WILL be better than Trump for men.
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Men know how cut throat this world can be, we are judged based on our value. So we are a bit more cut throat, because it’s how we feel the world treats us. Therefore, we look at “what’s best for the economy?” “What will provide a better job for me?” “What will keep me and my family safest?”
Maybe this is a bad example, but it’s the beat I can think of right now: Women see a family living in poverty in a 3rd world country, being separated at the border, and put themselves in that family’s shoes. They think “how terrible that must be!” AND IT IS TERRIBLE. But a man thinks “if we let all those people in, they’re gonna want jobs. If they’re willing to do my job cheaper than I do it, they’ll replace me. I don’t get paid enough as it is! And some bad people are bound to get in with the good people, what if they hurt my loved ones? No absolutely not. The safest option for me and my family is to not let anyone in.”
Men think about what’s best for themselves and their families because a man is judged based on how well he provides for them.
Women are more compassionate and so go left wing because it is the left that promises to help everyone (except for the (loosely defined) rich people) at seemingly no expense to the average middle class person.
Men on the other hand tend to believe: a) the government should focus on other things, such as the military. «Tomahawk missile for the win!» — This view is actually largely still leftist as it still requires the same sized government. The only difference being where the budget is spent. b) there should not be a nanny state. — This is actual conservatism. These men usually believe a person should either care for themselves or the community should. In other words: the solution is not to have a big state that has enormous power and control over people's lives. While seemingly in-compassionate it actually dictates that problems should be fixed by the person with the problem and that any outside help should come from willing helpers; forcing taxation to help is not compassionate as it requires one party to suffer to help the other.
I would say because (usually) females tend to be more emotive, sympathetic and base their decisions around feelings (yes plenty of exception, but overall more women tend to operate this way)
Whereas men (usually) tend to be more logic based making decisions based on what makes the most sense for the most people. (Again i know exceptions but overall)
Which means men are more likely to support/agree with positions that hold greater benefit for the greater good and are less inclined to consider the feelings of individuals.
Whereas females are more likely to support positions that cater more to the feelings of the individual.
The issue is rather than working together and accepting that difference and using the strengths of each gender to find a nice sensible balance between feelings and fact (over simplified i know) there seems to be this push to divide the two and create an us vs them culture.
Men and women in general are different, and there is good reason for this. Instead of trying to silence one side or the other, the two should come together, listen to the others view and reach compromise between the two. This is the best way for human kind to move forward succesfully
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So first I wanna say this is my personal theory and I don't know of it's true. Because women are nicer and kinder, which means they are seeking to create a better world for all people, which is what the left is trying to achieve. Men on the other hand are more competitive, aggressive and violent, which means that men generally seek to "defeat" their self-proclaimed and made-up "enemies". If politicians start to bash other ethnicities or religions like mexicans, muslims or jews men are more likely to pick up on that. For some reason men are very competitive so they see those people that are different from them as different categories of people that are competing with their own. Basically right-wingers categorize people as "we" and "they". So if "they" cross "our" borders illegally "they" are or course the enemy.
Ao basically it's black/white thinking and the assumption that for some reason different groups, ethnicities, people of certain countries, gender etc. are competing with each other instead of just trying to work together and see humanity as a whole.
Most left wing individuals use their emotions to drive their decisions. They don't use logic and reasoning, they don't see long term.
I don't know why anyone would even want to be a part of the left. They want the government to control everything, high taxes, a socialist society, to take all guns away (disarming the citizens), are okay with killing children.
I agree with this everyone wants free stuff but you have to look at the effects it will have on the economy and other things I’m not I to politics but I can agree most left side ideas would cripple some other thing we rely on
Exactly. They just see free healthcare, or free college. They don't see raised taxes and a crippling economy. They don't see how socialism destroys freedom and only benefits those in power.
@elite665 their ideas are terrible. All ideas seem good if they are free but as you get older you realize nothing is free and the cost is footed by the next person.
They, the dems, complain about high tuition and education fees yet they are the cause of that problem by allowing the government to regulate education.
God, leftists are so stupid and disgusting, as shown in this comment section. "White males are power hungry and want to benefit themselves." *spits*
For the most part, women don't really give a shit about politics. They just follow social programming from the media and education that the left is the 'good' side and the right is the 'bad.'
The left always gets it's support by pandering and by painting the right as religious fundamentalists. "We're fighting for YOU, gays, trans, minorities, women, immigrants, etc. Don't listen to those guys over there, they do everything according to an old book, and that book tells them that you're bad!"
And what is the new book conservatives follow? You spit. And here i thought this was to be for intelligent debate. Good way to get your point across. I am convinced.
"For the most part, women don't really give a shit about politics " you should use some and should not generalize it. Another male hoe who get offended so easily. Go check your hormons and learn to control them
@kim45456 Yeah, that's what I said. And what indicates that I thought all women? Obviously there are female politicians, whom undoubtedly care about politics, so are you just going to pretend that I'm retarded enough not to realize that so you can strawman me with "why do you think all women don't care about politics?"?
No, you make generalization about the whole female population in earth without any valid prove. There are surely enough sources for both arguments as you said. So you can't claim and say what you say is true.
I'm sorry, kinda a stupid question. It's like safety measures for the woman. Like in a relationship the gentleman always has his girl on the left of his body when walking on the sidewalk that way he's closer to the road than the woman. Same thing in bed, when going to bed the man usually sleeps closest to the door because it is most likely the girl would be safe incase of a break in. It can also just be a habit outside of a relationship or a "natural instinct" I wouldn't know. When I'm with friends and/or boyfriend like on school campus or in a store I'm always on their right (or left) basically no where that could pose a possible threat (s).
I imagine it has to do with our greater level of empathy. The left sounds utopian and empathetic towards others. It takes a degree of disassociation from emotional thinking to realise what is practical and actually does more good is on the right.
I have also heard that women shift further right and men further left as they age. I imagine that has something to do with men and women growing more versed in the world, and in each other as they age. We have a lot to learn from each other - that is for sure.
Errr... the demographics here are quite a bit more complicated than being a men vs. women thing. Young men tend to be more Liberal than older men. Older women tend to be more Conservative than younger women. Non-White men are more Liberal than White men. The more educated both men and women are, the more Liberal they are. And so on.
The answer, in my opinion, isn't that Liberals target POC and women while Conservatives target white men (although that's definitely a defensible position) - it's that Conservatives aim to maintain the status quo with very slow change. Unfortunately, the status quo in a country founded by and ruled by old white men for over 200 years greatly favors old white men, as you might imagine. Conservatives aren't actively going out and making pro-oldwhiteman policies... but they are arguing strongly to maintain a system that was built around old white men. So it comes of absolutely no surprise when people who aren't old white men aren't Conservatives.
The right wing is the conservative wing and as such tends to be more in favour of older ideals that tended to have women in a more servile role. If you look at the generally more right leaning or right dominated countries their conservative attitudes and laws put far more restrictions and limitations on what women can do.
Because Christian white men are considered the majority, and they have it good right now and always have, but are losing control over everyone else. So they often try to keep things how they are or revert us back to the "glory days". Women have always been more progressive, Women's suffrage for example. They want to be treated more equally and they see the same problem with others so they push for new policies in order to further benefit the nation as a whole and the people within it
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during the suffrage era most women didn't want the vote in America, they did polls on this
That's not what I was saying. They pushed for more rights and for equality. That is very progressive. I never mentioned women's voting rights and what they fought to achieve wasn't relevant at all.
Left wing is seen as more caring and about social responsibility while right wing is more me first fuck everyone else. Pretty much the difference between the sexes.
Another way of looking at it is left wing likes to use more government force to steal from you and enact stupid laws based on 'feelings' instead using actual facts and logic. ((green new deal)) www.washingtontimes.com/.../
Men are willing to suffer or be left alone in order to have total freedom. Women have no problem adapting to social norms if it means having protections and help from society.
This is why all left-wing dictators and left-wing regimes inflate women's egos for years and tell women they're better than men for around a decade or so before destroying the economy and taking over. We're seeing this in the US right now.
During the 90s Venezuela was RABIDLY anti-male and the women were trained to be tooth-and-nail against men to the point men were basically cowering to the women. By the late 90s men were seen as either toys, children or pieces of shit by most women. By 2003 they insituted Marxism and by 2013 the economy was destroyed.
Conservatives you can relate to the " good ol' boys club " what was is what should be. Resistant to change. Liberals are looking for new and different ways to achieve the same thing. Look. at history. We had to fight for race equality. We fought for equality for sexes. We need improvement in both areas. The white male has not been the minority to be discriminated against. They never lived the other side. They have always been the controlling majority and they dont want to loose it. The way it was is the way it should remain. Religion is a big part of being conservative, the white male has the biggest influence there. Women has always taken a back seat in positions of power there. Abortion, gay rights.. policy set by white males in power positions in religion. Most religions has the woman subservient to the husband. It worked for thousands of years, why should it not work tomorrow...
in the uk we have had two right wing female primeministers but im not citing that as a means to disprove your theory... what i will say though is that as far as parliamentary numbers go its the left that promote equality and the right tend to protect capitalism and their corporate friends so maybe it has more to do with the old order than actual people in the street and what they think
While I am a registered independent, republican issues tend to focus on issues more beneficial to men for instance gun laws while democratic issues are more beneficial to women, namely, control of their own bodies.
If anything I would argue that intrinsically guns benefit women more than men obviously because when used for protection they neutralize strength differences.
I'm not sure if I use the word correctly. I think I did but what I meant was there is the same inherent value women can get from guns that a man can. Both sexes are of course freely allowed to hunt if there want. I was saying that guns are more valuable for women for protection. Guns are more valuable for women for hunting as well because naturally women aren't going to be as good of a hunter as a male.
So what I'm saying is that guns neutralize the skill gap in these activities. I'm not saying that more women use guns. So therefore I would say there are more intrinsically useful for women if that makes sense.
It would be like saying a car is more useful for a big fat person to get to the grocery store with then a Olympic runner 😂 because big fat people can't walk as well. Guns will help women hunt better (because on average they can't hunt as well) and help them defend themselves better (because on average most can't defend themselves as well).
@cavmanier but a big fat person walking could still be run over and killed by a car... To put it more succinctly, over half of female victims of intimate partner homicide in the US are killed with a gun.
"but a big fat person walking could still be run over and killed by a car..." I'm not talking about being ran over by a car. I'm talking about a car is more useful for some people than others. A gun is more useful for a girl when it comes to protection and the same with hunting really.
"half of female victims of intimate partner homicide in the US are killed with a gun." Well yeah homicide victims are usually killed with guns. People usually prefer guns over knives or bricks. The trick is to not marry a crazy macho tough-guy. Marry a guy with some brains and empathy.
@cavmanier So a gun would be more useful to a small weak man than a big, tall strong man. Got it. You are going off on a completely unrelated tangent to the askers question and my subsequent opinion/answer to his question and quite frankly, some of your commentary is degrading/discrediting of womens ability to protect themselves or hunt (?) As if a man would find it less beneficial to use a gun while hunting bears. LOL. There are all sorts of reasons why a man or a woman would want to have a gun but the statistics prove that more men have them, are interested in them and use them.
Wow you're stressed huh. I guess I shouldn't talk to people about these things online. I'm not trying to fight.
"So a gun would be more useful to a small weak man than a big, tall strong man" Yes of course. That's not meant to be sexist. It's a fact that men are more developed to fight and hunt. I'm sorry for being a chauvinist lol. It's just a fact though.
This is not unrelated to what you said. You said laws supporting gun rights is more beneficial for men and technically I think you're incorrect about that based on what I said.
"As if a man would find it less beneficial to use a gun while hunting bears" I was talking about self-defense and you are the one that brought up hunting. Of course gender wouldn't matter when it comes to bears but bears are not a big part of hunting. Having a gun would benefit women when hunting in general more than a man because a man has more physical quickness and strength. Sorry for being chauvinistic again lol. Facts are facts though.
You're probably right about more men having guns. That's cool. So if you look at it in the sense of a aggregate utilitarian view and you are right there. I was thinking of based on benefits to individuals which I tend to do because I prefer a person having their own agency and not worrying about what other people are doing.
@SarahsSummer If anything, I do believe that women benefit more firearm ownership than men in a few ways, but perhaps the one that is most noticeable is self defense against sexual assault or rape. The average man is stronger than the average women, and even the world’s strongest woman is ions away from the strength of the world’s strongest man. The physical disparity is such that women shouldn’t opt to go hands on with a man who is attacking her unless she has no other options. If anything a gun gives a woman MORE independent don’t you think? She doesn’t have to rely on anyone but herself to defend her well being, her friends, her children, etc. She doesn’t have to rely on her boyfriend, husband, or any other man.
@EmbraceThePain And caveman (apt username) what is wrong with you people? The asker asks why men are more likely to be republican and women Democrats. I laid out one reasoning. More men own guns Than women, a fact I laid out, more men than women hunt, a fact that I laid out, more men than women are in the NRA, a fact that I laid out. Republicans support guns and the NRA. It’s one pretty simple connection to what the asker is stating. Your philosophies on guns being more beneficial to women is completely irrelevant to the question asked.
@SarahsSummer Well, you mentioned that republicans tend to focus on issues beneficial to men, specifically guns and gun laws, but perhaps you don’t see how this law or issue is greatly beneficial to women, in more important ways than simply owning guns, hunting, etc. It gives women an edge in the survival or self defense realm, so what I’m getting at is the notion that limiting this right or creating more restrictive gun laws can have a disparate impact on women in a significant way, arguably more important than any reason why a man would need a gun.
Because I think guns enable more power in a woman than a man. I agree that guns are more of a "guy issue" in the sense that more guys care about gun laws. I was talking about intrinsically that guns have the ability to help women more than men. I like to look beyond the surface on things.
"Your philosophies on guns being more beneficial to women is completely irrelevant to the question asked." But I was replying to you saying "more beneficial to men for instance gun laws." Gun laws are more for men in a aggregate way but guns help women more in the individual sense so we both make sense in different ways.
Agreed. My moms' place would broken into while she was there and the next day she went and bought a gun to protect herself. She was more vulnerable to fight off the criminal than a man. I know I'm so sexist for believing in facts. I need my feminist altered reality cap.
@cavmanier Yes, also, who do think is more significantly affected by restrictive gun laws? Most likely the poor and women. The poor are more likely to be disproportionately located in more criminogenic areas, where gun violence, drugs, and all sorts of crime and disorder occur. The need for taking protection into one’s hands is paramount in these environments. Also, for women, sexual crimes are gendered, where women are the victims and men the perpetrators. Common sense can go a long way, but when self defense and protection are considered, women will not beat men in any hand to hand altercation. Careful training and usage of firearms is truly the greatest equalizer.
Yeah but I heard all you have to do is make guns illegal and no one will shoot each other. Therefore no one needs a gun for protection right?
I don't know how it would all work out but this is one Mexican mans experience living in a country with extremely strict gun laws, where only about 38 guns are sold a day.
@cavmanier Yes, I’ve heard similar stories like that as well.
In my opinion, and I could be greatly wrong, but I think @SarahsSummer gotten into somewhat of a rut where she’s believes that republican=anti woman, pro man. I think this can stifle proper common sense convos, because you’ve already labeled the other side as malicious or harboring bad intentions. I could be wrong, so @SarahsSummer correct me if I am.
@SarahsSummer Your stats may be technically right, but just because you throw around random factually correct gun stats, doesn’t mean you’re proving your point. I didn’t appeal to feeling, rather, reality.
@EmbraceThePain I agree with the asker and statistics also prove his thesis to be correct, my addition is an undisputed reason why more men are CURRENTLY republican. As I stated initially, I’m a registered independent. Which to me give me the freedom to pick and choose the issues closest to me and vote according instead of towing the party line. In no way have I once said republican = anti woman. If you are looking to argue that point seek it elsewhere.
@EmbraceThePain There are happier places to be in the world my friend 😂😂
"democratic issues are more beneficial to women, namely, control of their own bodies" Ehh fetuses are not a part of a womans' body. They obviously have separably functioning dna. They are connected to or supported by the womans' body. When we have functioning baby incubators (if we don't already), fetuses will not be considered part of the incubator. I'm a pro choice independent but I still be in facts.
@cavmanier ok. So now I get it. Complaining about the pro choice movement but stating you are pro choice. You’re just here to create arguments, lonely maybe? I’ve asked nicely to step off but apparently you are incapable. Your noise is well, just noise. So it’s block time. Please fuck off.
Women as a demographic do not pay taxes, they consume more tax dollars than they pay and men make up the difference. This has been the case for as long as humans have been a thing, men create resources and society redistributes it towards women (who have and bear the children) through collectivization in primitive societies, then marriage, and now taxes. The right wing opposes taxes (also known as theft at gunpoint) in favor of marriage to get resources to women because marriage also benefits men. The left told women to vote for them and in exchange they could have men's resources without having to marry them.
Traditionally, culturally, biologically, whatever, men are more physical and Earth-bound, women are more aloof and psychological. People in the latter category have a wider perspective and are usually more empathetic.
People who are materialistic see things in black and white terms. See Trump.
Because men generally tend to think rationally and logically. Women are more emotional, therefore they're less likely to be influenced by facts & common sense, but instead of more likely to be "bought" by some passionate speaker, no matter how much of a bullshit he's saying.
Man, what a divide in this comment section... I'm glad I don't live in a country where there is only a two party system.
As for the question, some compelling and less compelling arguments (in my own opinion) are made as to how the statement could be true. I don't think I have the facts and statistics to draw an ironclad conclusion. Maybe someone posted some in the comments but I got tired of reading the same things said over and over again which I personally think such a system can cause.
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Probably because of social issues appealing to emotions. I agree with some Left stances when it comes to some social issues. But after working hard to get a job, I feel like too much taxes for welfare is rewarding people who aren’t trying hard enough, and taking from people who earned it. I think Republicans make more sense economically.
Women are emotional and the Left uses emotional pleas to get votes. Men are more fact and statistics based and nonsense pleas that purposely tug in the heartstrings do not affect them as much. Left brain vs right brain thought processes are different and men are left brained and women right.
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Men think in more objective practical terms while women think more emotionally and on feelings.
@kim45456 not necessarily. My girlfriend and I had a similar (but still very different) discussion yesterday and she made this point to me during it. Believe it or not, some women are capable of admitting that men are driven more by logical thought and women are driven more by emotional feelings without shame. She doesn't think that's necessarily a bad thing either, but there's a time and a place for each approach, and when you use the wrong approach at the wrong time then THAT'S bad. She's also conservative politically, funny enough.
@kim45456 men only say to solicit an emotional prescribed hysterical response that some highly strung women give but the men who say this usually fragile egos and are easily crushed.
Opinion owner I don't know about the guys you've dealt with, but if I say this it's because I believe it's the truth. Whatever response I get is secondary to that.
Assuming your statistics are accurate, I would say that a possible explanation is the difference between the ways that men and women think. Women tend to be more emotional and men more rational. If you examine the platforms of the two parties, then you can see the correlation.
Men tend to think logically or with a pragmatic mindset aimed at long term goals.
Women tend to think emotionally with short-term goals or knee-jerk reactions.
That parallels the Republican and Democratic parties pretty accurately.
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Honestly, I think it's because women tend to be more emotional, therefore think more emotionally rather than logically, unlike men.
Many ideas of the left are very emotion-based, whereas many right-wing ideas are more based on logic. I understand that this doesn't apply to all ideas on both sides, but it's typically true for most of them.
It's simple. Women are more emotional, therefore more likely to be driven to movements or statements which look positive and generally good, but they sometimes forget to do their logical research and dig more into those things to find out if they're really positive or not.
Men are more logical, before they focus on the nice sugar-coated cover, they're more likely to dig into the whole thing first to know whether they wanna stand behind it or not.
@J3nny From the research I've done into right-wing politics it seems to be many of right-wingers believe more in traditional views. Such as women staying home and the men being the breadwinners. They believe in anti-abortion, and while I personally believe women is wrong, I feel like it should be a choice and if you take it away you're taking away a women's right to that choice. That's why I said what I said. I'm from Canada so I don't worry much about politics, right-wing vs left-wing has never really been a thing here. We don't even use a presidential system, so maybe I don't have the personal experience. I'd like to hear what you think so I can become more informed, though.
i don’t disagree with the fact that left wing politics benefit women more. i more disagree that right wing politics benefit men more. abortion isn’t about the woman it’s about the baby. it’s more about morals. i’ve been a republican most my life. yes i was a democrat for a few years. but most of what right winged people believe in are traditional. but i can’t really explain it. i’ve been both but it doesn’t seem that right winged politics benefit men more. yeah they get to be the breadwinner but how is that beneficial? women are more emotional than men and care a lot more about words and feelings but that’s why the left benefits women where as the right doesn’t benefit either more than the other. omg i’m so sorry i feel like i’m making no sense. my brain is all jumbled right now as you can tell 😂 but to sum it up yes to the last part and no i think neither benefit more than the other being right winged
@J3nny I can see where you're coming from and don't worry, you're makings sense lol. I meant benefiting slightly loosely, I was referring to how liberal views tend to have more relaxed laws. Which in response give women more freedom where right-wing laws can take away some of that while giving men more power. Such as the belief that men should be the breadwinner takes away the freedom of them women deciding if she should work or not. Right-wing values can also take away from men too. I work as a psychiatrist and my husband works a government job, when we had children we both took off time when they were born. Canada has much better laws when it comes to time off for family (US laws for that are rather stingy compared to other countries, in New Zealand, you can take up to 245 days off WITH PAY for either sex) as a psychiatrist I could adjust my hours around my children lives (something quite important for me) and my husband wanted to do the same but couldn't due to his job restrictions. My husband grew up without his father and his mother was a drug addict who would have physically abusive men around her son and it affected him greatly. My father was around physically but not emotionally due to his work and I would never want my daughter or son to have to grow up with the same relationship that I had with my father and my husband didn't want that too. And if the man is the only one working or makes most of the income it restrains them more - if you choose to work less you get less money and that puts your financial security in trouble which can result in your family's needs not being attended to. Working long hours and more days takes away from time which can make it where you aren't close to your children or don't have a good relationship with them something that is important for growth.
Either way it’s about how having two incomes in the family as a trap because there’s not one to raise the children and there’s not one to be the breadwinner now personally I don’t care who the main breadwinner is I want to be a lawyer and a man could be a teacher and obviously the woman is going to be making more money than the man So in that case the man probably should be at home since the lawyer is going to make way more money If there good but it’s very interesting how she’s gone from A right wing ideology to an extreme left wing ideology basically she’s a liar
@Stoner710 Yes I've seen Pocahontas. From what I've heard from my mother Bernie Saunders seems like a nice candidate (my favorite of his being free health care and free college, I wouldn't have gotten a degree without haha).
@Stoner710 After quickly googling the book was wrote in 2004 but published in 2016. A lot can change in that many years, Donald Trump was friends with HIliary Clinton before the 2016 election and regularly gave to her charity foundation and spoke about being a Democrat publically. Some people think his campaign was meant to be a stunt but when he gained followers he decided to go along with it. The evidence is actrually quite interesting and compelling, and that flip-flop thing seems to be very present in American politics. American politics are, well, messy to put it bluntly - that's probably why people from other countries are so astouned by some of the things that come out from elections lol.
Lol my favorite on the left side is yang, with the UBI. Unfortunately universal healthcare doesn’t work out so well we’re talking a week to get a cast for a broken arm. A mix of private and public would be better. Basically an income under 50,000 should getting free healthcare beyond that private healthcare is better
@Stoner710 I'm quite happy with countries political situation haha, Canada is a peaceful place that I feel extremely safe in. As for universal healthcare, I agree with you on the 50,000 income idea. I've been very fortunate to have an upper-middle-class lifestyle, Canadian healthcare is good and affordable but the price has been climbing over the years. I lived in Sweden for about five years and they have the best system for healthcare in the world, in my opinion. While their taxes cost more than ours their culture and lives benefit so much from how their system work that it's not a problem. Then again, Swedes are quite peaceful people too, they even have a celebration in which people do a special dance and sing a song around a decorated stick to celebrate summer. It's called Sma Grodorna and is very entertaining.
I don't think right wing policies supporting men was on purpose though.
Right wing conservatives are very structured in mindset, based off whatever the world's ways were at the height of their influence, which was traditionally God fearing, rural style views.
Gender roles weren't considered bad until later, when the times changed.
In the old times, one income was enough, and house work was a job, not some frilly housewife in a pink dress lol.
Cooking and cleaning was easy compared to the carpentry skills rural women learned keeping their homes up kept. Most women had acres of farmland, tending to herds of cattle, flocks, etc. Women cut wood or gathered heavy stones and materials. Had an array of skills from being able to knit any fucking thing to skinning animals and being small to large business owners of products.
Ever notice how many agricultural, clothing and food brands are embellished by a woman?
Yea we were NOT just sitting at home looking pretty.
Men are built with more stamina for harsher conditions, so logically, what sense would it make for 20 women to work in the mines and produce 1/2 of what 10 men could do, due to physiology?
What sense does it make for a woman lactating, to leave the kids with dad while she goes to blacksmith steel bars for 16 hours?
Righties have a bad rap for lack of understanding why tradition is as it is.
Now the issue is that they aren't really flexible, so that caused oppressive pressures on race and gender.
If the loosen up a bit, and lefties conform a little bit, wed be okay lol
@dancing_in_nebulas I agree I’m on the right mainly because I disagree with Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren and most of the socialist on the left. I do think life is better when you can rely on one income. Especially when it comes to children in this one like mothers would always threaten wait till your father comes home. I ran into a situation like that today where is some 10-year-old kid asked me for a ride home and I took him straight home. As an analyst I can’t get that shit off my mind simply because I know how dangerous it is to ask a complete stranger for help at that age there’s a lot of creepy ass motherfuckers out there that would easily have kidnapped a the kid and the girl would’ve shown of the dead. Hell kids lucky he’s not dead (unfortunate reality)
Now as a historian in training I try to keep an open mind about politics but haven met people from Eastern Europe during the USSR take over I’m totally against communism and socialism. Women’s right except in 2 instances I believe are exceptions mainly abortion. 2 is if someone is getting paid on commission like sports
@Stoner710 I'm an Anarchist, so for me, the government has no business in personal matters. Not even social ones. Whether a person follows gender roles or not, doesn't mean a household can't survive. Times are different. Men get depressed working so much, to only be too tired to enjoy their home and family. The cold stoic icon attached to men, was actually a form of depression many miners, steel workers etc, suffered from, along with alcoholism because they worked too much.
The wealthier families in which the wife brought additional revenue, thrived better off than the poorer one income families back in rural era. Hence why in old school movies, the women who grew flowers or knitted clothes were higher in society.
Work is work - be it a paycheck or not - both genders have never really been free of working to maintain a household.
Likewise, dual income families make 2-3x more than single income families, and live with less stress and more luxuries.
The kids also grow up fine.
But that's what I mean about righties being a tad too uptight about life. Life is not black and white always. No politician should be involved in what goes on with someone's body or home.
They are not God.
It is not their duty to play God. All they do is uphold structure so economy can run smooth, so entire countries do not die of poverty, and law enforcement to keep life plausible.
That's the issue both sides have, is continuously crossing that line.
They have put more effort and money into trying to get rid of abortion and trying to build a wall to keep immigrations out as if we don't have an almost 20 trillion dollar debt right now.
That's fucking irresponsible.
Instead of caging children, who is proactively trying to stop our economy from collapsing? Who is making sure there's education not being cut? Who is helping put people's lives back together after disasters? Ya know?
women can do whatever they want with their bodies, as long as it doesn't cross over into harming another and abortion does just that.
There are small and irrelevant exceptions that can be dealt with within the first 2 months of pregnancy but if it takes you 20-30 weeks of pregnancy to decide to abort then thats wrong.
Women are softer, men stronger. On the streets in my city, you're most likely to see a white woman with a guest from Merkel. I met a girl who met regularly with a guest of Merkel and she tried to get rid of him in the end because in the last dates he went thirsty for her (if you know what I mean). A white man on the other side would not experience that with a Muslim woman.
You mean politically? It just doesn't make a difference if you are male or female... but you might know more right wing men, than left wing women. But all guys i know are left wing and the girls tend to be slight right. I want to see those statistics If you wouldn't mind
Hmm. A few things. Most right wing views are about controlling sex.
Women have easier access to sex, therefore they can afford to be more liberal about it. This basically explains how feminism works today.
Conservativism works by tripping people up so as to remain in the advantage. If they are losing control, add more constraints and tighten the grip etc.
For the most part I just think conservatives have more to lose. Women only stand to gain.
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Because men are more rational and fact based when it comes to decision making. Women are more emotional and the Democratic Party knows it.
Again there is irrationality on both sides (Trump says lots of stupid shit). But in general the left is much much worse. The LGBT townhall last week proved it.
Well I have talked about this before but to make a long conversation short, right wing politicians usually targets men as their primary demographics rather than women. As such their appeal is more effective among men.
gender isn't that much of a factor in which wing you lean towards. race is much more influential factor and racial minorities are more likely than white people to be left ring than right wing.
What about other countries? Are white people in Uganda more likely to be right wing too? Yeah probably not. Race is not a factor, being a minority is. Gender is more interesting however because while blacks or mexicans or whatever are not a minority everywhere in the world, women are women and men are men. But yet there are still differences in their political affiliations.
Right wingers tend to see things from a strictly rational, calculated, and fiscal view. Left wingers tend to see things more from an emotional and social view. Women tend to be more driven by emotions and people than men. This isn't rocket science.
I know that is a common held belief but its actually very misleading I find. If someone is conservative they are more likely to be male but if you're male it does not make you more likely to be conservative.
@cavmanier "It's weird that people believe this." Lets humour the idea, if its just left propaganda then right is not exactly doing a good job convincing women. Women are more likely to vote democratic party.
Because men are more rational and more focused on providing security and group-identity while women just want to mother shit. Mother children, mother migrants, mother perceived victims and yada-yada. Without any thought for the consequences of that.
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You see how the woman looks more happier than the man? Left wing people are less bitter than right wing.
Wow I don't think that's true. It wasn't that long ago that women didn't have the same rights as men, in some places we still don't. And in my country women were forced to stay in the house and couldn't work.
I think it's funny how women have more things to be bitter/angry about, but in general are less bitter. I mean look at the picture both women are smiling while the men look angry or something.
Across all ages men still commit suicide far more often than women.
(personal opinion but all those older men killing themselves probably got divorce raped and lost custody so they're stuck paying tons of child support while living broke and alone with nothing to show for it. meanwhile the ex-wifey is hooking up with other men and spending like crazy)
No young men don't commit suicide that much more than young women. Older men commit suicide much more than older women, even though women are the ones that mainly face ageism. Isn't that crazy?
You sound unintelligent. How about the fact that most rapists are male? Also Men marry gold diggers knowing they just want your money. You guys tell each other to use money to get women. It's your guys fault, no one else's. Now go away right wing.
Men use their logic as a guide more than they use emotion. While women use emotion more than men. Lefties exploit emotional responses and gains supporters without needing logic and reasoning.
Well traditionalist states, countries, cultures, etc tend to have men as the decision makers, but many of these states have already basically been traditionalist so it's just normal for them
Have no idea, but in terms of politicians they all full of shit. I don't think people should keep putting themselves in those categories and just be decent human beings.
Cuz women's brains run on feelings and emotion, and that's all the libtards have - there are no facts or logic involved. God help us if they ever take over.
Because women are naive about the world, and they expect that things will turn in their favor just by virtue of fate. Men are more realistic and know inherently that positive outcomes must be rent from the chaos that surrounds us.
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