I am just asking. Recently I see many comments under a Youtube video which shocked me. I mean the content of the video is not great but the comments are worser. I am sure there are real mgtow guys who really go their own way without disturbing anybody and I respect these guys. However, the majority of them are toxic on the internet in my experience. I mean they do not have to like women or feminism but what most of them are doing is spreading hate.
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I can't send the link but the name of the youtuber is "RPW Liberation" and the title of the video is "Feminists: selective castration to purge toxic masculinity"
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I do not support man hating feminazis but many of them are not different then antiman feminazis
This is my type of question. MGTOW men do not hate women! I dont know why everyone says that. WE keep telling you we dont. This is the thing ladies. THERE IS NO BENEFIT TO BEING MARRIED. this is fact. You deicide that one day you dont feel like being married anymore or your not happy, or you cheat on us and want to be with the other guy. We are screwed in court. WE get divorced raped and drug though the coals. Our money is gone, house, kids, assets. I've even heard of some guys living in their car. the bad part about is that you women dont even care what happens to us. WE can be in jail, you dont care, e lie in out car you dont care, we can even die and you dont care. All you care is that we send that child support payment every month and pay for your bills. Now days you have a lot of men out in the world that has long dam near lost everything over a WOMAN. Usually I will come on a post like this and rip you women a new one, BUT I will explain why we men are like this now. Anytime a man looses something or killed, in trouble it's most likely a woman behind them. Ill explain because I know your sitting their heated. 80% of marriages end on divorce because of women. look it up of you dont believe me. I know men do some stuff to but Im not here to tell you what men do, yeah some men messed up to. Again, this is what YOU WOMEN do. Ill even tell you MY story as a perfect example. Im retired military 20 years. My wife cheated on me 6 months before I retired with a guy in our church. She even got pregnant, need less to say and to make a long story short we are still together, ME personally Im here because of my kids. Oh by the way my wife is Japanese. So any Asian women on here, YOUR ALL THE SAME, AWALT. My wife dont give a shit about me, she's comfortable now. She only cares for me taking care of her. Me personally I don't love her anymore. I love her simply because she's the mother of our kids and thats it. Im not IN LOVE with her anymore. She screwed that up when she gave herself to another man. I dont care what anyone says "there is no forgive and forget" when it comes to this. When I confronted her about it, her answer is "well you were always gone, I thought you cheated on me, bla bla bla" . what an excuse! now why would you women lie and shift the blame when you get caught? Ill tell you why, you dont have any sense of responsibility or loyalty to anyone. Women by nature are selfish and self entitled. This goes back all the way to the bible. Look at Adam and Eve, you women were the first ones to mess up. y'all screwed humanity up. Adam was stupid and followed behind her to so he messed us up to. The bible is full of women screwing over men. look at Samson and Delilah, another women screwing over a man. Cut the mans hair and made him loose his strength. Women dont listen either. Remember Lot and his wife? God said run from the city and dont look back. What did Lotts wife do? she turns around and looks and turns to a pillar of salt. the women of Samaria, they slept with multiple partners, Gomer, again left her husband to sleep with multiple partners, Partiphers wife, she accused a slave of rape because he wouldn't sleep with her and and had him thrown in prison. This behavior still goes on today, false rape accusations. So you see, its not a hate thing. it's a Im not playing your games anymore and we are OUT. then we have feminism. Feminisms lied to you women. You believe them and look at society now. Everything is messed up because of it. Birth rates are down, No one wants to get married, all the bridal stores closing down, Toys R US closing, now one is getting married because of MGTOW. this is just a few thing, the list goes on and on. WE can't trust women now days. women are not women today. Back in the days like your grandmother? that was a women. She knew her place and she dint bitch and complain all the time. Sex is another reason, it slows down after marriage.
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I said i do not have with real mgtow aka non sexist women
Those commenters sound legit like serial killers or school shooters in the making :S I feel dirty now for just having read their bile. That said I'm curious what the context was for what they're referring to. I'm all in favour of calling out toxic behaviour that certain women think they can get away with. But when you take an example of such a toxic person, and turn it into a perverted diatribe about cutting out women's vocal cords at birth and bringing back witch burnings, then you've gone fully off the deep end
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The content of the video was man hating feminazis who wants to castrate men. So both of sides are stupid
I’ve been threatened and stalked by mgtow and what I’ve learned in that it’s more about power than anything else. They feel powerless in comparison to women so therefore we are the enemy.
Those groups are traps for the week, the wounded and the stupid. They make people feel like they are not alone and that what happened so far wasn't their fault. That can be really apealing. But it's nothing more than closing their eyes to reallity to ease their pain.
They talk about a fictional reallity. In reallity girls can't escape their "female nature". So they only stay with you until a better one comes along, that they are not capable of love, they just want chad/alphas, tehy will lose everything after they hit the wall at 30, etc.
All of those are not true and have serious flways in their logic. The reallity is they are not very good men, or even good people for that matter. The hardest thing in the world is looking in the mirror, admit it "I suck!" and after that fighting with all you have to suck less. Been there done that!
They refuse to self improve and blame women for not wanting them. Finding all kinds of excuses and fantasies to why women aren't worth it. It's pathetic.
You're looking at the fruits of Marxism. If you wan to know the kinds of forces at work here watch the video I posted for you. Also you might want to listen to The Gulag Archipelago when you commute. It's available on youtube. Feminism isn't feminism, it's Marxism, young women get into feminism and they get taught the ideology of Karl Marx rather than simple female advocacy. Thus the poison enters society it contaminates the women , they act like vicious communist revolutionaries and then it rubs off on the men. If you take this personally and you sit and brood in your pain you will miss understanding what's behind it all. It is a product of the time you live in. You will turn into an incel your self brooding with hate and thoughts of revenge. Just look at this video, these women don't think of themselves as Marxists but they act like communist rebels. They have no idea what's been taught them because they were not told. Incel boys see this kind of thing and they brood and brood and smolder with hate till they start thinking like the comments you posted. Think and put things in context you and those incels are being tricked. https://hooktube.com/watch?v=NbNazLv_W4k
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I did not say feminism is better and there is no excuse to be an incel
I know you don't think feminism is better. Your whole focus is on the crazy behavior you see from these incels. My guess is your half outraged and half confused as to where they even came from. I'm trying to give you some information to follow up on so you can understand what's going on.
A feminist says kill all men, and when men leave the slave plantation the girls ask why? When men tell them we left the plantation because "remember #killallmen?" the feminists say feminists don't say that and misandrists are not feminists. *cough* (bull shoot) *cough* MGTOW is just men avoid getting shackled and made a slave of by women who gets to decide if he is even allowed to live or not by just going their own way away from women. Some men maybe were sexually abused by women as kids and see feminists say 100% of men rape 100% of the time, while 0% of women commit 0% of sexual crimes ever, and if a male says she did then he must have forced her to do it to him so he is evil. Men that experienced that and see how the feminist movement wants to keep him as their victim in waiting could decide to treat militant femininity with militant masculinity. Then there are men who do not go their own way and just want equality in the legal system like custody and protection from violence called MRA's. Basically MGTOW is not a group it is just men leaving women out of their lives.
Hate is a strong word and I won't say I hate females I just don't want any form of association with them for the rest of my natural life
Regarding the movement well there are bad apples in every lot many feminists belive all men shoud be killed coz they are all rapist
Real incident belive it or not. I was travelling by bus and at a stop I saw a girl was vomiting I gave her my water bottle as she was vomiting she was standing in a corner where not many people can see us. She drank out of my bottle then started to scream, when people came there she said I have molested her. Actually she only wanted money out of me. Thankfully the helper from the bus saw the whole thing and took my side when she saw she was not going to get any money she just said sorry and the people just let her go without saying anything at all. She continued the journey in the same bus for the next 6 hours and went off to her destination. Unbelievable belive it
Let them go their own way if they want. Let them go colonize Antartica if they want. No women there. But those types of comments are just rude and show their movement has little legitimacy. If it was truly for the reason of putting the brakes on what they seem to all hate, feminism and inequility in divorce settlements, than they would have a more intelligent and mature voice to their cause. With constitutional lawyers to back them up. Most just sound like little bitches with little weiners and bitter they got the short end of the stick... Pun intended.
They do. The only reason they go to those channels mostly is because they're angry, can't get laid, and want to find reasons to justify to themselves how they're somehow better off without women anyway. If they can then pretend that they're the ones avoiding women because women are terrible, and not the other way around, they can kind of feel better about their situation. But obviously that doesn't work, so they end up making comments like that.
They're just lunatics writing stupid shit on the internet though. It's best to simply ignore them. They won't do anything anyway. Neither them nor the radfems who want to castrate all men and whatever else. That won't happen either. Why give them any attention at all?
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I'm not a fan of modern feminism in America, mainly because it is run by extremists who want women to have all the power in society and put down men. It goes against the core messages of the original feminist movement, which was actually about equality. I am not part of the current feminist movement at all. I am not part of mgtow either. I just make sure to avoid women that hate me for being masculine. That said, even I can tell that these comments are from trolls or crazy people with mental problems. I have seen many ridiculous comments on YouTube written by "feminists" too. Like how women should rule the world, men are scum, even that men deserve to get raped to see what it feels like (because apparently she thinks men are never sexually assaulted). There are crazy extremists on both sides, it's best to just not give them the time of day.
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As I said i do not have a problem with not extreme mgtow guys who do not hate on women
And most of them still complain about not getting sex. What do you call a guy who wants sex but doesn't want a woman? Gay
MGTOW is basically the group of guys who complain that they can't get women because of feminism, high standards, etc. whatever their excuse may be. Because isn't it interesting how the guys we want and ask out and go for - isn't it so interesting how THEY are not with MGTOW?
The movement was created in response to the feminist movement and they sought to fight back against the misandrist often violent movement and they successfully buried the feminist movement. These comments, while indefensible, are nothing compared to what feminists said (btw when feminists said far worse things about men such as bragging about raping children, laughing about little boys being raped, glorifying a woman who strangled little boys and said she does it for fun, and bragging about making false rape allegations that lead to men being put in prison, where were you women? Oh yeah, that's right, defending them). This is just the tip of the iceberg of what we dealt with from that movement and those comments are a response to them. This was a war between two evils but one was clearly a lesser evil and the lesser evil slaughtered the feminist movement, that's why I supported and continue to support the MGTOW movement to this day to keep them buried.
@Rangers I have never supported feminism and never will. It completely even goes against my morals. However, I'm not concerned about how guys want to "fight a war" or whatever either. Actually, I also consider fighting to be immature. The kind of man I want doesn't get involved in this stupid stuff; instead he lives his own life as a man and is perfectly fine in his masculinity while at the same time avoiding such confrontation. That's my kind of guy, but yeah very rare nowadays...
I'm of Latin culture. In our culture gender roles are very defined - and I mean very defined as there's no doubt for spaces in between. It's well- viewed that we think of what people call "freedom" today (not just gender stuff but a lot of the other things too) is really freedom to do wrong.
It was a necessary response to all of the stuff being done by feminists and complete lack of justice taking place for their actions. The fact that (correct me if I'm wrong, but I've never seen you do it) you haven't said anything when you hear feminist say exactly what I described but you had a whole lot to say about a few albeit disgusting comments from people that might not even be part of MGTOW and are more likely incels or making really bad jokes shows a big level of hypocrisy on your part, suggesting that you haven't seemed to have done your part in renouncing things said and done by feminists while you've done more than your part renouncing gross YouTube comments made by men in the comment section of a far worse video.
I wasn't alive then, but if I were, I would've been with the men who fought for your rights and granted them to you even though you didn't want most of them
Well, I'm engaged, so right off the bat I'm not a so called "typical MGTOW guy" I doubt you even know the difference between an incel and MGTOW. So I'll tell you, incels are often as you described, bitter guys who constantly go after the wrong girls only to be thrown away and anger develops inside them that often leads to them going way too far in retaliation or most likely retaliating against the wrong people who aren't actually guilty of what they think they are. Which brings us to why incels and MGTOW members disliked eachother, MGTOW restricts criticism and the occasional roasting to those who actually have directly hurt them and are trying to hurt them in order to serve justice wheras incels conflate feminists with all women and often hurt women who had nothing to do with feminism, leaving the feminists unpunished for their horrible acts. MGTOW was created to say that they're done sticking their necks out for people who continue to take from them and dismiss all of their issues and show no gratitude for everything they've done for them, and it ended up working.
Let me begin by saying this: what "members"? "We" are not a cult. All that MGTOW is is the 21st-century internet term for the philosophy of men choosing to be bachelors with the added concept of self-improvement.
Secondly, your "experience" with the haters are a small portion of us. Those ones are usually stuck on the "anger" level of the Kubler-Ross grief cycle. Once we get beyond that (which I will admit is difficult for some, which I believe is due to human nature more than anything else), we are more likely to keep our conversations a bit more private AND realize that this type of tomfoolery is the opposite of productive. Most of us who are on that level RARELY talk about MGTOW with "outsiders."
Any movement has their whackos and they are the ones that post loudly and often on the internet. I looked into MGTOW and from what I saw the pure MGTOWers disengage from gender interaction altogether and pledge the single life for them from now on. Whether they are right or wrong is a different discussion but the ones who hang in there to argue are probably MGTOWers for the wrong reason, carrying grudges from past interactions with women.
I can’t say because I’m not too knowledgeable of these new age definitions of guys we used to just call idiots, or ugly nerds that women usually despised and they in turn hated everyone, including other guys. They were/are social deviates, and jgnored.
I've watched those videos before and you tube is usually has the milder comments. The ones missing are the pump and dump ones. You can report such videos or comments to you tube. Reddit is even worse. I think one comment was if I see a woman getting beat up in the street I wouldn't help her because she deserves it. I would be happy.
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Mgtow sounds like incel-lite. Both have elements of hate on their reddit/discord servers. But there are guys who just don’t have experience in sex and are just trying to fit in somewhere. I can only tell people to get to know the opposite sex. Be friends with them first and you’ll feel comfortable around them.
Well, by the video with such title, what do you think the comments of men will be?:) Even not mgtow but just someone who engages in anger or negativity very easily like you do? Thus this display of negative comments is not representative.
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I already said the content of the video is not great but the comments are hypocrital because they writer of these comments lower themself on the same as the feminazis or worse. And to be honest under normal feminist videos are also such comments. I am sorry my fault.
Well, no way I would neglect that under normal feminism videos such comments are present. I agree with you. I just wanted to hint that the choice of this video was a bit misleading:) I'm just saying if you would have picked a normal femi video with such comments it'd be far more strong argument for your own position and your disapproval of such behavior.
Could someone please define "Normal feminism" to me? Because it kinda sounds like "normal" Islam, really. Whenever a muslim does something bad, every other muslim will claim that "he was not a real muslim". Whenever misandrist laws are adapted, some feminist will say that women who voted them in are not "real" feminists.
Both the people in the video and the guys in the comments disgust me. But, like in most cases these days, it's mostly the loudest, radical and stupidest people who get heard, and that is concerning, to say the least. I know there are feminists who aren't man-haters, and I believe there are MGTOW guys who don't hate women. If it's the majorty that hates women; I don't know. You might have to find a rational MGTOW guy or that.
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Based on the title of the video, they are being sarcastic. They don’t actually mean what they are saying, they are just showing how bad the feminazis sound when they express their hatred for men.
Most men in MGTOW generally don't regard women in a good light even if they aren't on the extreme end of things. MGTOW is pretty much about removing women from their lives because they believe we're privileged, gold diggers.
Most of them are men who looked for love in the wrong places. They were disappointed, so now they paint with the broad brush. There are plenty of decent loving women out there. But somehow they aren't patient enough to meet them.
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You will find about the same percentage of MGTOWs who hate women as you will find feminists who hate men.
MGTOW and feminism are mirror images of each other.
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