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Even if I did have white privilege, why the fuck would I denounce it? Would the queen give up her crown? Would black people give up their power if the shoe was on the other foot? Nope.
@Julietchicago People form their biases on race based on what they see in life.
@dc-refugee and it's not about race, it's about wealth. And because most of the wealth acquired in our nation is by white people, that automatically makes the white person the enemy. Most white people don't have money like that
@Julietchicago I agree. No anger or animosity should be directed toward the white working and middle classes. They've done nothing wrong.
That bullshit doesn’t slide in the USA that much I can say. Lynch those fuckers the old fashioned way.
yep and if want to expand your net a bit, talk about UAE/Dubai... an under cover slave colony for converting European/American primarily blonde females into sex slaves and brides for the princes.When society bows to the emotions of the criminals... as USA is now going to start to do (I did not say black people are criminals I'm saying there are criminals who will take advantage of the softness), then it slides downhill into their frame of life... and society erodes. before all this, trump was putting in place a head of human trafficking. I think that's been on hold due to the chaos. These are real social issues and not acceptable... it's modern day slavery. The trauma of rape is often a lifetime.
@lightbulb27 I agree with what you're saying, but isn't Trump a friend of epsteins? He really doesn't give a fuck about women
@Jack9949 nah, because in the US you, instead, have the likes of Jeffrey Epstein and his harem of influential/rich men who'd gang rape underage girls. Not sure if that's any better considering that he knew men at the very top of the food chain.
@Julietchicago I suspect most people at that level knew each other somewhat but no I don't buy he's a friend of epstein for one reason... who is his friend? he doesn't trust anyone unless they submit to him, so it doesn't make sense. He doesn't drink, which saves him a lot of grief. At least he would date and marry women... that's a huge improvement over many people today. He definitely had troubles with women... namely, he doesn't understand him and he's a difficult personality... one can only imagine what he's like in person as we just see his public version. I used to work with someone like him. His kids seem ok to me... so my guess is he's ok. He has some women work for him and along with. But he will tear anyone down verbally if they go against him. He was working the human trafficking issue before the world mess, that's for women. It's all how you look at it. He's just a power broker. I don't see him as a womanizer, but he may have had a phase like that. nowhere near the level of clinton... and they all know each other. Their daughters are friends for long time!
@lightbulb27 I see. I was going off his cheating nature. Cheating on all his wives etc. But just because someone is a womanizer doesn't mean j
@lightbulb27 sorry my reply got muddled. Just because someone is a womanizer doesn't mean they can't fight for women's rights. So I see your point.
@lumos Right. But did Jeffrey Epstein get away with it?
@Julietchicago Also Trump only met with him like once or twice. They were never close friends and Trump said he never liked him. He praised the dude’s arrest even. Trump also called for the death penalty of the Central Park 5. He is not in support of gang rapes.
@Julietchicago your writing reminds me of someone i knew... twice... whose not here... but i never knew...
@Jack9949 for the most part, yes, he did get away with it. For quite a long time. He paid his way out of it multiple times and even after he went to court for sex trafficking (the first time) his social circles quickly accepted him back and kept wanting to associate themselves with him. Even after he finally did get caught, he still got away with it because he committed suicide/was murdered. He never had to face any sort of real punishment.
@Julietchicago could you be a former gagger returned?
@lightbulb27 wtf is that?
@Julietchicago some GAG people go away and come back as a new profile. guess I'm off... thanks for sharing.
@lightbulb27 oh lol no
"There is another class of coloured people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs — partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs."Booker T. Washington
@angryyhedge Racists always selectively quote our "Black" heroes. A though Booker T. Washington would agree with racists that "Black" people a failed race.Booker T Washington was one of greatest educators in the history of this nation. But my freedoms were won, by people who marched and fought for their own. The master piece, "A letter from a Birmingham jail."I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a "more convenient season.
His quote fit your profile I couldn't help myself. You see us as privileged because your people haven't made it to our level. If you ever get there suddenly that idea of white privilege will no longer be on your mind. Kudos to the Asians for catching up to us and not claiming we have privilege.
@angryyhedge You racist insane fruitcakes post racist drivel every single day.Every single day, someone is telling us we are a failed race. Then justifying violence against innocent "Black" people. It is disgusting, it is pathetic and it is cowardly. Because the racists here never do this in public. They only do this anonymously.I will be leading racial/cultural discussions. They will be posted on youtube, instagram, and twitter. I will be doing something to create understanding and foster unity.You will still be here, posting racist bullshit while hiding your identity.And believe me. Asians are already apart of my group. And none of them believe in race or that "Blacks" have failed. So back to the darkness coward.
Stop pretending like you don't have a single racist bone in your body, nobody believes you delusional regressives. All you care about is your own people at least have the balls to admit it. Refer to the Booker T. Washington quote for the reason why people say you're a failed race.
@angryyhedge Oh I am not one of you, crazed fruitcake racist. And here is the thing, MOST PEOPLE AREN'T RACIST! That is the thing that lifts my spirits. I lead discussions with hundreds of members. And 99% do not have racist intentions. If they are ignorant, they have come to this group to gain knowledge.Racism is not ignorance.It t is "aggressive ignorance".A Japanese person may not now my experience. But once I relate to him my personal experience he will have that knowledge.A racist will receive information about my personal experience, then insist my personal experience is wrong based on the FBI statistics.That's the power of insane fruitcake crazy nutty racism.My own people are the people who love me and I love across this world. You can come to the meetup discussion and meet them if you dare. I know that the primary driver for racists is fear. We promise to be gentle.
I don't need your diversity training, you damaged enough whites to the point where they hate themselves and their own people. Statistics don't lie, your personal experiences don't represent the entire black race.
@angryyhedge It isn't diversity training. If you cannot extend the most basic human courtesy to another human being, because of your batshit nutty beliefs in racism, then what are you?I mean, the only thing that gives your life worth is your belief in "White" supremacy. Without it, you can only tout your sad pathetic lonely life. You won't be bringing a diverse group of racists to any discussion. You won't be bringing anyone. Because racism is a sad lonely pathetic existence.
All you do is call everyone racist it gets old. I'm only prejudice to certain types of people, specifically towards the racists who use race as a weapon like yourself. You have no idea what real racism is because you've never experienced it. You think you have it bad until another Adolf Hitler arises. The only thing that gives your life meaning is to create fake racism to fight against.
@angryyhedge I don't fuck what you think is old. I am accurate. I am factual. And I was not put on earth to coddle racists. You are unlike anybody else in humanity. You choose to have these beliefs. The rest of us are born "Black", "White", Japanese, Austrian, Mexican, Cherokee, etc.. . .But you choose to be racist. And it is your beliefs that are the problem. Nothing else. You try to project your racist shit onto everything. When your biggest issue is, people reject your beliefs. So it is like you have a broken mind. You speak constantly in lies and contradictions. You don't have any moral or ethical standards, because if you did, you would break them instantaneously.
Hahaha I'm unlike anybody else in humanity that's a good one. I chose to call out the fakers like you who pretend to be fighting racism while stabbing white people in the back. Get used to it Roland, there's only so much you can lie to a person until they see you for what you are.
@angryyhedge How are you calling fakers? You are a racist coward. You will dwell in the darkest places of the net anonymously posting your racist beliefs.That is your life.That is what you are.Scared,Lonely.And pathetic.
You've been posting racist beliefs anonymously but have the nerve to say I'm doing the same lol.
You're a racist coward. Worry about yourself and leave white people alone.
@angryyhedge I am not anonymous. It is pretty easy to find my identity. I have posted it here on GaG. You are a pathetic lonely troll.
@angryyhedge Yeah that charge has a lot of weight coming from a lonely pathetic coward.
I'm calling the police you just raped me 🚔
@angryyhedge Mind raping a racist is a lot of fun.
There are 44 million blacks in America. Last year in 2019 only 9 unarmed black men were killed by police in America. 15 whites by the way. It is statistically exceptionally rare.
Now I understand why people say they don't have white privilege. What you just said shows you don't understand what it means. White privilege is the ability to go to the store, maybe holding skittles like Trayvon Martin, and to not get questioned by the cops. Or to drive home late and not get pulled over for being suspicious. It doesn't mean wow I'm white I'm gonna become a CEO and become a billionaire because I'm white.
White privilege means you have a greater probability of success and a lower probability of being unjustly treated by the justice system. It's not a guarantee that you will be successful or that you will never be treated unjustly.
@Ad_Quid_Orator thank you thank you!!! you're the only smart one here
@Froyologirl none of my black friends get questioned or pulled over by cops. And actually, I've been pulled over many times. One time I had a warrant for a speeding ticket. I was put in handcuffs and stayed the night in jail for it. Then the cop even had the guts to flirt with me while he was taking my mugshots. All just for an unpaid speeding ticket. So don't talk to me about privalleges when I've been treated like shit bc of my sex my entire life
@Ad_Quid_Orator yeah I don't have that. I've been treated like shit by the system just for being female and denied jobs bc of my age
Yeah, you just ignored what I about it being a probability versus a guarantee didn't you -_-
you sound like a victim shamed and a person who denies other people's problems. Just because it hasn't happened to them doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
It looks like you are very ignorant and didn't read the replies
@Froyologirl actually, you guys are being ignorant. Just read the question, "have you denounced your white privilege yet?" Which insinuates that ALL whites are privalleged and we should all feel white guilt. Plus @Froyologirl what privalleges, personally, have you been denied because of your race?
Welp let's see. Walking home with skittles in my hand, being suspected of having a counterfeit check, staying in my home from fear of being shot, and much more.
@Froyologirl that's not you personally. Those are two incidents you watched on the news. I've had a much harder life than you from system abuse and I'm not black. White people are police brutality victims too, more often than black. The news doesn't show you that because they like to stir up racism
@Julietchicago not what white privlege is
@Froyologirl then explain
@Julietchicago white privilege is when people treat you like they're supposed to. I had a friend (white) who worked for her father's company and got a check. her friend (black) worked the same hours as her and same days under her father's company. When my friend went to cash her check there were no problems and was able to get her money. Her black friend got the same amount, but there were 5 bankers around trying to contact the company and see if her check was real. When my friend came over to check on her friend she explained why her check didn't have to go through this process. Then they left her friend alone.
@Froyologirl was that at the same bank and what city was it? None of my black friends have ever had problems due to their race. I'm not saying it doesn't exist, I'm just saying it's not every black person Just like it's not every white person who benefits from "white privilege." As a petite girl, I get harrassed by men all the time and even a cop. I've been attacked by men and passed over on jobs bc of men, but I don't tell men to give up their manhood.Also, more white men are shot by white cops than black men, yet black men make up a way larger percentage of crimes.So why would you think it's okay to start a race war by pointing the finger at individuals from that race and claim they are ALL privalleged?
@Julietchicago omg just because it doesn't happen to your black friends doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Why won't y'all racists just accept the fact that you have been brainwashed with systematic racism
@Froyologirl if you read my post, you would see that I said I'm sure it happens, but not as often as you seem to be posting it. And you point the finger to me and say I'm a racist? I grew up as a white minority and I would have had rocks thrown at me for being white and insults left and right, even though I was only 7 years old and didn't even know what racism was. In fact, I'll bet I have had way more racist things happened to me than you. But do I go around hating black people? No I don't. Because I know the people who have treated me like that are just ignorant. And if you want to be like one of them, go right ahead. But you're not going to win a war that way "an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind." Ghandi
@Julietchicago Whatever Julie, it's like arguing to a brick wall. You don't get it and never will. Just because you were bullied had nothing to do with race. So goodbye.
@Froyologirl actually my bullying did have to do with race, being a white minority. But of course you think all white people are the enemy because of what you read in the news. I'm sorry that you lack the critical thinking skills to know that racism is racism no matter what color. Everybody should have equal rights, but it's wrong to point the finger at an entire race just because a small percentage of people in that race control the nation and are racist maybe if you ever wake the fuck up, you will see that it's the system opressing us and dividing us by race You don't fight racism with racism
So white people cannot be mistreated or judged based upon their race? Do you not get irony?
There’s a big difference in severity.
Really? How so? What evidence do you have to support that claim? Whites are accused of having privilege and of being racist, yet blacks are 150% more likely to commit hate crimes, are more likely to be accepted into colleges (in order to be seen as equal as it pertains to college admission whites have to score an equivalent of 380 additional points, that's to be seen as equal to their black counter parts), whites do not benefit from hiring quotas but other races do, whites do not get to sue for descrimination (at least they are not taken seriously if they do) but minorities are and in fact can sue even when their is little evidence that they are being descriminated against. Whites are killed by cops in much larger numbers then blacks despite blacks being responsible for over 50% of crimes (this is based off of the independent reports of police departments across the country, the DOJ, FBI, CDC, and NCVS (and when you point this out most claim that all of these are just "racist", with no evidence, simply because it doesn't pain whites as the bad guy)). Despite this fact, blacks who are killed get seven times the press coverage. The richest groups in America are all minorities, African immigrants fair better then most white ethnic groups, and Asians do the best. Despite this we are accused of being a racist and privileged group (despite the fact that we have more poor numerically speaking then any other group which gets ignored), simply because the color of our skin. So again, what evidence do you have to back the claim that all white people are privileged and pampered by society and no one else is? Because as it stands, the laws disfavor whites, society disfavors whites, blacks who openly use "hate speech" and talk about hating white people (whether it be rappers, actors or politicians) suffer no repercussions yet whites are accused of being hateful and racist simply by existing.
@hellionthesagereborn YOU ARE MY HERO! NOW GET READY FOR THE STEADY FLOW OF RACIST SHIT COMING YOU WAY FROM FROM THE IDIOTS.
@hellionthesagereborn Actually African Americans are the most common victims of hate crimes[https://www. nbcnews. com/news/nbcblk/every-tally-hate-crimes-blacks-are-most-frequent-victims-n938541] you're conflating black on white crimes with hate crimes. Just because someone committed a crime against a person of a different race doesn't mean it was motivated by the race of the individual (and no, not all white on black crime is automatically labeled as "hate crime").Also, African Americans are two and a half times as likely to be shot by police:www.statista.com/.../And as for arguing that's because they have a higher crime (or more accurately, incarceration) rate, part of that is due to being targeted by police more often in the first place:www.prisonpolicy.org/blog/2018/10/12/policing/As for affirmative action, if there was no "white privilege" then there would be the same number of black and white students in the top universities relative to the differences in their population size and there would be no need for it in the first place. What you're forgetting/purposefully ignoring in your asinine calculations is that schools in black neighborhoods offer lower quality education. As for there being more poor white people than any other race, that's because there are more white people than any other race.
@Ad_Quid_Orator Thank you. I was going to get to this later. I just hadn’t worked up the energy. I don’t like dealing with angry people on the internet. I’ve interacted with at least one of the people on here before, and he tends to get angry with me. And I find that disagreeing with anyone who uses caps lock usually also leads to them spewing a wide variety of insults and vulgarities my way. And the fact that there’s two of them doesn’t help. Especially given that one of them has already referred to me as one of the idiots. So I wasn’t looking forward to responding. I got a notification about your response and checked because I worried that it would be another one like the previous two, and I didn’t want to have more points to respond to. So I appreciate your response. I know that it wasn’t for my sake. But I appreciate it. Thanks again. :)
NP, I know how you feel; I've interacted with this Gish Galloping internet crank plenty of times and when you call him out on his bullshit he just throws a hilarious hissy fit XD
@Ad_Quid_Orator Incorrect as usual: ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2016/topic-pages/offenderswww.nationalreview.com/.../Kind of hard to claim that whites are violent towards blacks more often when every bit of data shows the exact opposite and shows that blacks are about 150% more likely to commit hate crimes then whites. Also blacks are not more likely to be shot by police. That is an intentional misrepresentation of the data. See in order to come to that conclusion you have to ignore that they commit over 50% of all murders and violent crimes. This means that they are far more likely to have police interactions then whites. When that is accounted for whites are actually still more likely to be killed by the police then blacks. Also police are 18.5% more likely to be killed by a black person then a black person is to be killed by a cop so even their, your argument falls flat. I know your going to ignore all the data but it won't alter the truth in anyway.
@darkcloud1945 Thanks, I'm use to it though.
I'm not angry, I'm confused as to why you would make a claim that you have no reason to make, one that is incredibly racist yet then take the position as if it wasn't racist and as if it was well founded when literally every shred of data we have shows the exact opposite is true? I mean who would in their right mind claim that an entire group is x and then also proclaim that they are not in fact being racist? That's kind of insane and clearly you did not think that through (hence me pointing out the irony in your statement). Also You thanked him to soon, FBI, DOJ, NCVS, and CDC data all shows that everything he stated is provably false. Its actually the EXACT OPPOSITE of what he said.
I mean all of you have the right to be racist toward whites, nothing I can do about it and again, you are free to believe what ever you want, I'm just confused at why you would try to act like your not.
@hellionthesagereborn When talking about who's less privileged, it makes a lot more sense to talk about who is more likely to be the victim of a hate crime than a perpetrator. And the source you linked gave the race of the perpetrator, not the victim so you can't infer that white people suffer more hate crimes at the hands of African Americans than vice versa (way to misrepresent data). Also, your calculation based on the crime rate doesn't take into account that police more often approach African Americans than people of European descent which will artificially inflate the African American crime rate. So if police are selectively targeting African Americans, that will result in more convictions per crime committed as well as more incidences of police brutality. Once someone is convicted of a crime they are also more likely to enter a life of crime (which would include violent crimes) so the disparity in death by police between black and white people can't just be hand-waved away by attributing it to a difference in crime rates. See, you're just an internet crank who abuses statistics to fit your denialist narrative just Gish gallop ad hominems.
"I mean who would in their right mind claim that an entire group is x and then also proclaim that they are not in fact being racist?" Like what claim that an entire group of people is far more likely to commit crimes than others like you did? I don't know because it's true but unlike your myopic ass, I can see things more than skin deep. You can't even see past the lens of your racist bias.
@Ad_Quid_Orator Blacks commit 52% of all homicides while being just 14% of the population. Homicide has nothing to do with selective policing. In fact, when police backed off of the streets in Baltimore in the wake of Freddie Gray, homicides went up not down.
@dc-refugee Yeah it does because when there's distrust among the local population toward the police due to violence and harassment, people are less likely to cooperate with the police and crime can fester.
@Ad_Quid_Orator Right, lets not talk about who is most likely to be a perpetrator of a hate crime, that wouldn't make sense, instead lets look at who is most likely to be a affected by it because why would we ever want to take into account population sizes? Their is no point in speaking to you, your going to dismiss FBI, DOJ, CDC, and NCVS data (not to mention all the studies done that show what your saying is utter bullshit) because you lack the capacity to self reflect and admit when your wrong.
@hellionthesagereborn You mean like how you made a completely false inference to suit your narrative? Quit projecting.
@Ad_Quid_Orator But in the most violent, crime ridden cities, black Democrats are the chief of polices and mayor and city council and have high levels of representation in the police forces. Why would black people living in these cities not trust their police?
@dc-refugee Because of a long standing history of police brutality.
@Ad_Quid_Orator Nope, everything I stated was absolute fact, again its backed by the DOJ, FBI, independent researchers, the arrest records of black, Hispanic and white cops, the CDC, and the NCVS. Your just stupid (and as we all know, you can't fix stupid (especially not a case as sever as yours). Also at no point did I make an inference, I stated the factual data, their was no guess work their (I don't think you actually know what that word means, it means coming to a conclusion based upon evidence, I just pointed to the evidence and facts).As for the claim of police brutality you would first have to actually prove that this is a thing, that its happening now and that its wide spread. We know that this is not the case now and it is not widespread. We have 32 questionable deaths a year at the hands of police, questionable by the way doesn't mean guilt, doesn't mean racism, it means the conduct was questionable and could or could not be the appropriate response. Out of those, more then half are white. That leaves us about 13 incidents per year involving blacks (who again, are far more likely to kill cops (again, this comes out to be about 20 cops a year killed by blacks so we can show conclusively that blacks are more violent towards cops then the other way around (and unlike the 13 incidents which is commited by cops of all races, the 20 are only killed by blacks)). So clearly we can see from the data that everything your stating is wrong, something I would presume you would get tired of at some point yet here we are.
@hellionthesagereborn You know this is the internet (you know where people can easily fact check you). "Questionable" is vague but what's more concrete is that 104 unnamed African Americans were killed by police in 2015. Five times the rate as European Americans. Again the data seems to support your narrative to you but that's because you can't see past the lens of your racist bias.https://mappingpoliceviolence.org/unarmed
@Ad_Quid_Orator Yeah, five times more except that 800 are killed a year so clearly not five times more (because that would be one eighth). So I presume your taking into account population size, but then neglecting to take into account that blacks are responsible for over 50% of all crime in the country meaning they are substantially more likely to commit crimes and substantially more likely to be in contact with police and thus should have substantially HIGHER occurences then they do. Man, I feel like we have been through this several times but for some reason its not sinking in (its because your stupid, their is just no reason to beat around the bush, you are as dumb as they come (god your stupid. How have you managed to survive all of this time? I would have expected you to accidentally have killed yourself wiping your own ass at this point (wait, you are capable of wiping your own ass right?). So wrong as per usual, you just love being wrong (is it a fetish? Do you get off being proven wrong time and time again? That would explain a lot actually). I especially love the part where you accuse others of racism even as you try to justify behaviors in a racial group that you would never justify in any other (on account of you being rampantly racist).
@hellionthesagereborn Five times the RATE (i. e. per individual in each racial group) not five times as many individuals. When you can't understand basic statistical terms and Gish Gallop ad hominems it only makes you look like the imbecile that you are.
@Ad_Quid_Orator Here, here is a black man saying the same thing I am (so you can claim he is racist too):https://youtu.be/8MIwyq20Xhchttps://grabien.com/story.php?id=290991Here is another black man saying the same thing (So you can claim he is racist too!):twitchy.com/.../https://youtu.be/5daNMXer2UQtownhall.com/.../who-is-racist-n1636228
@Ad_Quid_Orator HOLY SHIT! YOUR CALLING BLACKS WHO DON'T AGREE WITH YOU HOUSE NEGRO'S? WHAT THE FUCK MAN! HOW CAN YOU BE SO FUCKING RACIST AND ACT LIKE YOUR THE ONE ON THE MORAL HIGHGROUND? Jesus fucking Christ, its true, no one is more racist then a leftist and it always comes out the second a black person starts thinking for themselves and disagrees with them that's when the leftist start spouting off racist bullshit. You can't handle the idea that a black person would dare to go against your beliefs so your response is to be racist, that's fucked up. I'm done with you, you can't reason with a racist bigot.
@hellionthesagereborn That’s how they all are. The Democrats have this view of how all black people must behave and the second they step up out of line and think independently, game over.
@hellionthesagereborn @jack9949Jack9949No, I'm not saying thetv they're "house Negroes" for "disagreeing with me", I'm calling them as such for reinforcing talking points that racist bigots (like you) based on red herrings and distorted statistics. Again, you're desperately trying to push the fictitious image of the leftist who calls everything that they don't agree with "racist". No matter how much you (over) use that accusation, racism exists.
@Ad_Quid_Orator I never denied racism exists
@Jack9949 But you seem to deny that it's a systematic problem.
@Ad_Quid_Orator Because it isn’t systematic. It’s an individual issue
@Jack9949 No, it's a societal one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrHIQIO_bdQ
@Ad_Quid_Orator that’s just because Democrats haven’t done anything to address the disparities caused by segregation.
@Jack9949 Because when they try the legislation gets cut down by conservatives.
@Jack9949 I know, if you go to black republican Youtubers they will tell you the most racist people are the democrats. This guy is a moron, I already knew that (I gave him Harvard studies, FBI statistics, DOJ, CDC, NCVS and pretty much every acronym and ivy league school study proving him wrong (on all of his absurd ideas) but it doesn't sink in. Their is no point in speaking to him (I know I'm done with him at least for a bit).
@hellionthesagereborn You twisted data from those sources to fit your racist narrative and Black Democrats would probably say the same thing about white republicans AND there are way more black democrats than republicans. Gee, I wonder why that is (hint, it's not because the Democrats want to give them handouts).
@Ad_Quid_Orator Your a racist piece of shit. Also, it is because of the handouts. Its also because pieces of shit like you tell them that every one is out to get them but democrats which is why despite decades and generations voting democrats blacks are worse off now then ever before because all democrats wanted was the vote and all you want is to be able to claim moral superiority without ever having to do anything to earn it. Your a racist piece of shit, no bitching, no bullshit, no slander will EVER change that.
@hellionthesagereborn Wrong, it's because Democrats post party switch have been fighting to undo the wrongs of the past but people like you are so stupid that you think when discriminatory policies are lifted, all the impacts go away. And when Democrats/progressives try to rectify the wrongs, reactionary bigoted pieces of shit (like you) cry "reverse racism" and "the soft bigotry of low expectations" in a case of projection that's way to obvious.
@Ad_Quid_Orator Jesus fucking Christ your a moron. What switch dipshit what switch? Are you talking about the "democrat republican" switch that happened 23 years before the republican party was even founded? Or are you talking about the Nixon switch were he supposedly used racist rhetoric to win the deep south despite the fact that he lost the deep south the the racist democrats, at no point in any of his radio spots did he use the rhetoric claimed, in none of his fliers or debates either, nor in his party platform and the only southern states he won were the more northern ones which were far more republican and based upon other studies at the time far less racist? The one where you claim one guy switched, without any evidence, and that some how made his entire party switch? The one where the republicans magically became racist because "reasons" and altered every single value they had except and changed their names to their opposition party which would have resulted in. . . a racist republican and racist democrats which is not a fucking switch but a merger? That switch? the one where if you look at all senators, governors, presidents, and representatives in the fucking 150 year time span from the end of the civil war till now less then 1% of politicians actually fucking switched? You mean that one? God damn you people are the most ignorant and racist assholes I've ever met. You have no values and no shame to realize that its a bad thing. God I hate people like you.
@hellionthesagereborn Nixon lost the deep south but he didn't lose to the Democrats, he lot to a branch that split off to form a "Dixiecrat" third party and it wasn't the politicians who switched, it was the people so your argument is a non-sequitor.You LOVE parroting right wing talking points without thinking critically don't you.
@Ad_Quid_Orator So you agree that everything I stated was correct. thanks for that. Your a fucking moron and a NPC, you have nothing, no argument, no thoughts of your own, and no brain to critically think with. I'm done speaking to a racist piece of shit like you.
@hellionthesagereborn No, I showed how your statements were just right wing talking points which are basically lies by omission and that you're resort to blatant misinformation tactics to push the "reverse racist left" mythos.
@Ad_Quid_Orator Out of 44 million blacks in the US. How many drowned that year? How many unarmed whites were killed by police that year?
@dc-refugee White Americans have 1/5th the chance that African Americans do when unarmed. As for drowning, not as bad as your case is drowning in a pile of red herring.
See police brutality has farther reaching consequences than drowning.
@Ad_Quid_Orator You haven't cited any relevant data. You're just making up numbers. Reading your above responses, you're not worth engaging with. Please make an effort to become better informed and grow up.
@dc-refugee OK, here's your relevant data (and I have repeatedly cited sources in this thread).https://mappingpoliceviolence.org/unarmedAnd don't bitch about "relevance" if you're going to pull a Red Herring.
@Ad_Quid_Orator Hey man, that link is 404.
Tucker Carlson reported on this recently and mentioned that of the 236 black people killed by cops last year (2019) exactly 10 were unarmed. His source for that was the Wasington Post, which is a left leaning newspaper. We have 320 million people in the US. 44 million are black. It would seem being shot by an officer is not a very significant problem for blacks based on that data. By the way, everyone wants the number to be zero. Police don't want to be attacked with deadly weapons. The vast majority would like to do their jobs and make it home alive to see their family again. It's worth pointing out that every year dozens of police officers are killed. There is a rationale for police carrying guns in the US. There are some exceptionally dangerous neighborhoods in the US.
Well that number could be a lot lower if we compare it to other countries. But there are many estimates for how many people are killed by police but this is really just the tip of the iceberg. That iceberg is racist policies of the justice system.
@Ad_Quid_Orator Neither link you provided contains any data on the number of unarmed people killed by police in the US. There are other statistics like the likelihood of a person to be killed by police by race, but, those are complicated by many variables, of course. Not the least of which is the rates of crimes committed by race, and I cited some of that data above. Is there any chance I could convince you to meditate on this and consider your position? I don't deny that statistically speaking, a black person has a higher chance of being shot by police than a white person. That's not at issue in my view. There are many variables that contribute to that. In absolute numbers, when you consider that 236 blacks were shot (10 of whom were unarmed) against a population of 44 million, you can see that the chance of being shot by a cop for any reason is low and if you don't resist arrest or attack a cop with a weapon then it's infinitesimally small.
@dc-refugee https://mappingpoliceviolence.org/And I don't deny that the odds of being killed by a cop on it's own is very small but the issue is that when police violence is very prevalent, it leads to issues like distrust of the police. And have you ever considered that the higher crime (or more accurately, conviction) rates are due to factors like the increased likelihood to be approached by police in the first place?justiceroundtable.org/.../
@Ad_Quid_Orator When police back off in those communities you are referring to, the crime skyrockets. We are actually observing that *right now*. We also saw that in the wake of Freddie Gray in Baltimore. The residents suffered a horrible crime wave after the police backed down. It's black communities that suffer the worst when police back off. You need to look at the crime rates by race. The real tragedy is whites are far more likely to be raped or killed by blacks than the reverse and its been that way for decades. The media has made it a cultural taboo to ever mention it but the FBI UCR is available online for you to review at any time.
@dc-refugee Actually there's no evidence that the backing off called an increase in homicide ratesonlinelibrary.wiley.com/.../1745-9133.12414And here's the data regarding homicide rates:ucr.fbi.gov/.../expanded-homicide-data-table-3.xls2.1934 times as many whites were killed by blacks than blacks killed by whites but if take into account that whites make up 59% of the population while blacks make up 13% you get that a black man is ~2 times as likely to be killed by a white man than a white man is to be killed by a black man.
@Ad_Quid_Orator Using 2019 data, homicide extended table 6, you can see That whites killed 234 blacks in 2019. That is to say, of the 3,011 people that whites killed in 2019, only 7.7% of them were black, versus blacks making up 14% of the population. You're math way off. Blacks are statistically more likely to kill whites than whites are blacks.
@Ad_Quid_Orator And to keep going, 16.1% of the homicides that blacks committed were against whites. The large majority of homicides that blacks commit are against other blacks.
@dc-refugee And a big reason criminal elements are able to thrive in black communities is because of distrust of the police among the local population. That is what I was talking about when I said the impacts of police brutality are far more reaching than the number of black people killed by police would suggest.
Really? Its an advantage to obey the law and not be violent and attack and rob people thus ensuring an increased probability of violent altercations with the police? That's odd, sounds more like a responsibility then a privilege. So your saying that white people have a privilege of just being inherently less criminally inclined? Because if that's what your arguing that's rather racist.(considering that blacks make up 13% of the population but over 50% of all crimes are commited by blacks (murders to robberies), 100% of all interracial rapes are commited by blacks, 80% of interracial crimes and violence are commited by blacks against whites, blacks are 150% more likely to commit hate crimes compared to whites, 40% of all cops killed are killed by blacks, Cops are 18.5% more likely to be killed by a black person then a black person is to be killed by a cop (meaning that black lives matter is actually in the wrong, cops have to be afraid of blacks not the otherway around based upon all available data). So here is the question, ignoring everything else, when whites are killed by blacks (which is substantially more often then the reverse), if they rioted and burned down homes and destroyed business and stole and murdered people and started to actively kill cops who had done nothing wrong, would you support that? When black cops kill unarmed whites (which has happened several times (just last year in Minneapolis Minnesota that resulted in zero protests and zero riots and zero looting and zero murders commited)), does that mean whites have the right to riot, murder, and set fire to cities and loot business's and destroy the lives of innocent people? If your answer is anything but yes, you are a racist (because you are not holding blacks to the same standard you hold every one else).
@hellionthesagereborn well said.
@dc-refugee Thank you.
JUST A QUICK NOTE. MORE UNARMED WHITE MEN WERE KILLED BY POLICE 2019 9 BLACK 80 PLUS WHITES SOME PEOPLE SHOULD LEARN TO COUNT. I'M JUST SAYING
If I had a white friend doing this shit I wouldn’t be white anymore. It’s actually extremely racist to claim you have “white privilege” but they are too stupid to understand that.
I just seen this video earlier. Most people should see it but it doesn't play into mainstream medias narrative so it will never get national attention. Sadly for those outraged about George Floyd, the tactics used on George Floyd could have been outlawed had Tony Timpa's death been given a shred of attention.
@mike5150 and what are you going to say to Tony Timpa’s mother? All these officers were let off wrongful death charges and got their jobs back. No woke liberal is going to comment on this because they don’t have a leg to stand on when it comes to the double standard.
I just noticed this video is now part of a question in the news section good to see. His family has every right to be outraged, and I even see a black officer standing there doing nothing at one point. There is literally nothing to be gained from the national media because they got what they wanted with the George Floyd video. If this video public knowledge prior to the events the past 2 weeks I think we would be in a lot different place right now.
2 weeks of rioting and not one mainstream media establishment discussed this similar case. They're exploiting George Floyd's death to inflame racial tensions because it's an election year.
@dc-refugee please share this video all you can. The real racists are anybody who tries to suppress the truth.
simple black man*
Did... did you just admit to being a slut?
@2Lips I think she admitted to being a prostitute
You certainly dress the part.
Tell me what you think white privilege is. And no one is telling you to be sorry. You white people are victimizing yourself.
It’s that shit that got your account banned yet again, dude. And no, I’m not talking to you Mr UP
Right on White Queen! Although Asians have also done pretty well themselves! It's overwhelmingly Muslims, Blacks, and Mestizos that have contributed the least.
@Physics-Man Really? You guys are acting like only Thomas Edison made the light bulb. Um no. It was his slave who made it. Do some research and stop relying on your bias American history.
Not surprised the men liked this comment. whew chile this is why more women are staying single
@Froyologirl Where are your sources? Show proof.
@Froyologirl You're single because a real man would want nothing as dumb as some^ to pleasure all day long. My beautiful woman is treasured and adored while you're petting your CAT being all offended for the trend of the week!
You worded this roughly. But white people never existed the following would of never been invented: - electricity - airplanes- the internal combustion engine - modern medicine - nuclear energy- space travel - free democracies (this is huge)Of course there is a whole ugly flip side of Adolf Hitler, Karl Marx, Joseph Stalin, nuclear bombs, industrial pollution, etc. But really if white people never existed what would this world be like right now? Chances are we have the modernization of the 18th century at best. White people made huge advancements in science from the 19th century on. Also just a quick news flash. OTHER RACES OWNED SLAVES. Yes as hard is it is to believe non-white people actually supported slavery in history. African tribes actually enslaved other Africans and then sold them to America. But who would know? Hard to believe huh? But I understand it was either purposely omitted in your history books or barely mentioned.
@youknowbetter It's funny how you actually believe in your bias American history. You really think only white people made all those. Okay. Take Thomas Edison for example, the creator of the light bulb. I'm not going to say that he didn't do anything because we can't time travel. But if you do more research you will see that his BLACK slave invented or helped invent the light bulb with him. His name was Latimer. Now of course back then white men took credit for everything. So I'm not going to say Edison did nothing because like I said before we weren't there, but he definitely did not invent it without the help of his BLACK slave.
@standingUP Stop being a bitter middle aged man arguing with a teenager about relationships.
@Froyologirl All those modern inventions he mentioned were strictly the ingenuity of white minds. Blacks, Mestizos, and Muslims had nothing to do with those modern inventions. By the time Arabs made contact with Black Africans, Blacks hadn't invented the wheel, a calendar, a written language, or a mechanical device even as simple as a hinge. They hadn't domesticated a beast of burden or built a two storey building over a century old. This is despite blacks being the oldest group of humans on Earth.I looked up your claim of Lewis Latimer, you're utterly wrong about everything you said!He was never a slave! He did work for the company founded by Thomas Edison, but never actually worked for him directly.In 1881, Latimer, along with Joseph Nichols (white guy), invented a light bulb with a carbon filament, an improvement on Thomas Edison's original paper filament, which would burn out quickly, and sold the patent to the United States Electric Company in 1881. He received a second patent on January 17, 1882 for the "Process of Manufacturing Carbons", an improved method for the production of lightbulb carbon filaments. The Edison Electric Light Company in New York City hired Latimer in 1884, as a draftsman and an expert witness in patent litigation on electric lights.In other words,he didn't invent the lightbulb, he simply improved it by making the filament last longer with carbon most of it being based off of a schematic for it originally formulated by Edison.
Also, Thomas Edison never owned a single slave! It's obvious that blacks have contributed, I'm not saying they haven't, it's just nowhere near to the extent as Europeans, Arabs, and Asians.
Hold up... this chics account actually got banned for speaking the truth? Wtf? The world would be so much worse if it wasn’t for white people civilizing and education other cultures. Imperialism was the greatest force of good God ever bestowed upon the planet. Britain should restote its empire and become Great Again!
Also notice the sharp gender divide between like/dislike 😂😂 Guess we white men are VERY racist 😂. But seriously white women need to stop acting like their innocent from history. They supported the acts of their husbands so they are just as guilty
9 guys liked this. 9 girls downvoted it. This keeps proving my point that women are just so much more impressionable than men. Exceptions either way of course. But just saying. It seems like they are generally getting worse too.
@youknowbetter Ikr the gender divide fr 😂 Are men just more racist or something? In my opinion we’re just willing to accept uncomfortable truths whereas women get too emotional.
The problem is women can use their sexuality to manipulate men into their twisted views. On dating apps I constantly see “I don’t date Trump supporters” or “I don’t fuck Republicans.” Some guys take that at face value and WILL CHANGE THEIR BELIEFS. They will “agree” with their leftist bullshit just to get laid. This happened during the whole gay marriage push a few years ago. Don’t ever change your core beliefs just to please a woman. You don’t have to be vocal about them. You can keep them to yourself. I also believe many women will actually respect you more if you stand your ground. Because that’s the definition as a man. But the problem is conservatives are being so incredibly mislabeled, ostracized and beat down right now. We fear losing our jobs and being social outcasts if we openly discuss our views. The vast majority of us aren’t racists, homophobes, sexists etc. We just don’t believe in all the victimhood bullshit. We believe in hard work and self accountability.
@youknowbetter Hard work and self-accountability. Couldn’t agree more. Also I’m not gonna fold for any woman. I’ll just find another. And to your point, women do appreciate if you exercise some self restraint in regards to your views. I even found that I was turning off conservative women who agreed with me by not going about this.
@Jack9949 Women get more emotional. Look at trump being a child.
@youknowbetter I usually wouldn't stereotype Republicans, but y'all are such snowflakes.
@Froyologirl Snowflakes huh? That term is used to describe liberals...
@Jack9949 and look how cultural appropriation works lol.
@youknowbetter damn nice
@Jack9949 friend sent that to me last night. Funny because it’s true.
@Jack9949 i know it's funny, but it's hypocritical for Republicans to call liberals snowflakes when y'all get offended over everything.
@Froyologirl Could you give some examples?
@Froyologirl liberals are banning classic like “gone with the wind” and won’t air classic cartoons (Elmer Fudd) where characters use guns. Bumble won’t allow pictures of someone using a gun, even it’s just a shooting range. The classic old TV series “starsky and hutch” got banned from because there car had a confederate flag on it. When liberals get offended, they get their way. They win because they have an immense amount of power in the media, Hollywood, local politics, higher education and social media. There have been talks about TAKING DOWN THE WASHINGTON MEMORIAL. Quit treating like this is fair because it isn’t. It’s absolutely insane. But you are a brainwashed 17 yr old kid so I don’t expect you to understand that. You are more worried about fitting in with the woke crowd.
@Jack9949 right now you're getting mad
@youknowbetter ur the brainwashed one
@Froyologirl All I did was ask you a question. It’s ok though, if your not comfortable answering I don’t mind.
@Froyologirl yeah I’m brainwashed because I listen to FACTS and I don’t jump on trendy things just so I’m “socially acceptable.” All this bullshit going on is ultimately going to hurt minorities than help them.
THANK YOU for acknowledge that. There is gender privilege when it comes to law enforcement and the chances of dying. A tattooed yet law abiding white guy will get treated much more harshly by police than a minority female if they were both suspected in the exact same crime.
Yeah white females are too controlling... perhaps that’s why so many of them end up single?
@Jack9949 no i think its because of $$ that people are single.. Since most man are also single.But since women have $ they are more independent..
I have no problem with hard working independent females as long as they don’t have an attitude about it. This country tried to promote women into those positions (sometimes at the detriment of more qualified men). The wage gap is a myth. It’s illegal to explicitly pay a woman less than a man for the exact same job. But women still have these inflated standards for men.
Most of us already know that.
The white people who aren’t missing a chromosome understand that. But they literally want you to be their slave master. Either speak up and tell them they are free or ask them to go lemming and walk into the ocean to drown themselves. Seriously this is the most embarrassing thing I’ve ever seen my race do.
Fuckin' A, right!
black people are statistically underrepresented in police violence. they have no legitimate complaints
ACAB is actually a term that mean all cops are bastards and it came from a punk group in the 80s called the 4skins because they are 4 skinheads. They aren't racist skinheads, but the media likes to show only the skinheads who are racist to stir up race wars
@Inbox Being called whores for wearing little clothing. How about men being applauding for sleeping with a bunch of women and women being told they are slut... we all love that one. Get lost.
Yup. I love you. And now white women are being bled for the opression that MEN have created