And how do you know their unhappiness is caused by Independence? How do you know it's not caused by the rise in promiscuousness by men? With the internet, men have way more options now and choose not to settle down until later in life.
@Julietchicago “How do you know it's not caused by the rise in promiscuousness by men?” it certainly is a factor. As soon as women were unchained from the marriage-homemaker-relationship-hell, they turned massively promiscuous because feminism said sex is the same for women and they were cut free from the monogamous bondage and by the way take this pill once a day. As soon as women were cut loose, they found that they enjoyed banging everything, well men simply became addicted to that lifestyle, and now men have also become independent. With both came an explosion of promiscuousness and the men don’t even have to deal with relationships anymore to get sex. And so rip relationships. Women continue to say they don’t need men, so women should also free themselves from that relationship want/desire illness that lingers. That would increase women’s happiness tremendously.
@Julietchicago Men are not only not choosing to settle down later in life, many of them are rejecting marriage outright.
and so you are blaming women for wanting the same perks as a man has? The same sexual freedom? Men cheated on their wives in the 1950s 60s and so on and some of them beat up their wives and the cops didn't care, so the cases were never reported.So, I'm sorry that feminism is so evil that it freed women from the ball and chain of marriage as you say. what it really did was give women a choice. Now that they make their own money, they don't have to settle for any guy with money who they are not even attracted to. and what are these 1950s done saying women were happier back then? And he was even conducting the study? Women didn't even have a voice back then, the ones who were abused weren't even allowed to express that they were unhappy
@Julietchicago Not completely true! You no longer have a choice because your only path now is to obtain those degrees and get that shining empowering career to earn and survive mostly on your own—government supplemental of course. The marriage, ltr, so, entrapment and enslavement part is being eliminated. There was more choice before feminism as there were famous accomplished women prior. Feminism, just removed the homemaker, marriage, ltr, slave-ship option. In the end, this bantering back and forth makes no difference since it appears you are satisfied and happy with the current state of dating and relationships and are willing to fall on your indoctrination sword.
@blank_expression what accomplishments were women allowed before feminism? Not much. you aren't even allowed to work in high positions, they had to create woman positions in Banks which were low tier. Plus women were denied higher education. my IQ is extremely high, so what you're saying is that I should just waste my brain and stay home and cook dinners when I could be using it to further my education and help society.you act like women have absolutely no choice but to pursue education. That's false. There are plenty of women who are satisfied with just being homemakers. That option is still available
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There's more to it than that, but it's good start!
Well, a gorgeous white male anyway 😂
@Julietchicago actually that's not all it's cracked up to be. Getting pestered by women all the time. I don't like hurting peoples feelings so i wouldn't enjoy that
Lol boohoo. Come on. I was once extremely gorgeous and men would pester me all the time. I didn't mind it at all. Would rather have that than be ignored or invisible
Then there's me, who put in effort for like 10 years and stays depressed nevertheless.
@Unit1 I'm sorry to hear that. :(
I have noted of your sympathy. Appreciated!
Men and women are different lol.. Do you really expect them to make the exact same amount of money to a tee? Also I've seen a lot of women that aren't that great but land really great looking men. For the most part, the men that date women more attractive than them are men with high status and/or a lot of money.Also as far as the sexual harassment goes and catcalling, none of those are okay. With that being said, these days sexual harassment/catcalling are just thrown around recklessly. You can get charged with sexual harassment for something as dumb as telling a 'thats what she said' joke in the breakroom at work. TL;DR, men don't have it easier, we just complain less because we know nobody else cares.
À man have a bigger chance to be raped than to be charged with false accusations. Only 230 out of every 1,000 sexual assaults are reported to police. That means about 3 out of 4 go unreported, cause women aren’t taken seriously
Being sexually harassed is bullshit. But at least you are attractive to the person whether they are a scumbag or not. If your not attractive you might not be sexually harassed but you are for a hard life when it comes to dating. Women tend to be voluntarily single vs men when all else is equal.
"Easily able to date" I wouldn't say that is true for most men
Being attractive isn’t nearly as important as being respected.
I agree with the respected part
I agree although happiness stems from a lot of reasons that aren't gender based. And to be spiritual, happiness comes from within sooo... yeah
and have you considered the percentage of people who actually commit suicide? It's pretty low. My guess would be lower than 15%. Which means the majority of people do not commit suicide, so how can you compare a generalized question with a minority group? also more women attempt suicide than men, they just don't succeed because they pick less lethal methods due to fear of how their body will look
Do you think it's because they use much more violent and effective methods?A friend of mine tried overdosing on paracetamol and survived because she was rushed to hospital and had her stomach pumped.
@Goodwifie Generally speaking if men are going to do it, they'll do it right. Basically it's an influencing factor but my primary point stands still - happy people do not commit suicide.
@Goodwifie When women attempt suicide, its usually a cry for help. Men that commit suicide pretty much have hit rock bottom and dont really think its worth it to try and get help. Thats probably why they use more violent methods.
I'd like to be a counterexample to 1
Always a few outliers, also #9 is supposed to be incels not nickels damn auto correct
How do single women have 2 ranks?
Whoops number 7 is supposed to be fat single women
That’s bullshit according to many and various studies - single women are the happiest and married men are the happiest
According to observable reality you are very wrong
But are YOU happy?
Yooo that’s exactly what I said!
Happy people are sometimes reluctant and that is how you might be able to explain the poll.
I wasn't the one who downvoted you, however this isn't really true. At least the last part about honest communication about problems. Often the same women who say the things you're saying (I'm not talking about you specifically because I don't know you, I'm speaking generally) are the first to tell guys to stop whining. The real reason for the high suicide rates of men is that despite all this virtue-signalling people don't really give a shit about men's problems. Women especially. Other men are actually more understanding, which is a big thing women don't tend to get.There have been guys here who've had serious problems and I've spoken to them through PM and at least tried to help them figure out how to overcome it, because when they asked questions about it all they got was mockery, again from the same kinds of people who repeat the things you're saying here.
@Barbaric you know I actually agree with you that women often disregard men's problems and that makes the problem worse - most women expect men to be 'tough' and have all the traits I listed above, and if they don't, women tend to be very unforgiving and dismissive of men who often have genuine grievances. There is still a outdated belief that women are hugely disadvantaged while men are privileged unfortunately
Exactly! You just spoke my mind