You have to wonder whether or not he would have been able to close the borders earlier if he had tried. Would the democrats have tried to block it? Could they? But it also needs to be asked did they know the same information he did? And if they did, would they have wanted to take swift action? It's a complicated question.
Viruses gunna virus. With an interconnected world the spread is inevitable. The USA over counts infection rate and cases possibly even deaths as our for profit healthcare system has financially incentivized labeling deaths and intubations as covid. Not Trumps fault but doesn't mean he’s not an asshole.
We know that the virus began in China. But it was always going to spread to the United States.
He is responsible for our response. He lied to the public about the seriousness of the virus. And it is breathtaking to see supporters defend him, even as he admitted to lying.
it was wise to downplay the virus to not cause a panic. we had no knowledge that it should have been handled differently at the time, its not even clear now that it wasn't the right call
He didn’t downplay it. He lied. He said the virus was not serious even as he admitted it was privately it was. And now we are dealing with months of inaction, lies and stupidity. He knew his words were leading to more people rejecting common sense measures like wearing a mask. And now the most protected man in the world, somehow has the virus. When all it took was a few simple precautions to protect him.
Could he have done some things better? For sure. Are the local governments such as state governors, etc. as well as wrong information by the CDC and WHO at least as responsible? Absolutely.
There are many bad things about Trump, including some of his handling of the Covid-19 crisis. But it would be unfair to blame him for it, just as it would be unfair to blame other extremist leaders like Johnson or Putin. Trump did not create the virus or spread it, although his wayward advice has clearly not helped to control it.
Kingfit, YES you CAN control/manage it. What the fuck? You sound just as dumb as Trump! It will NEVER go away. Trump is also to blame. If he would have just been honest and said this is a very contagious virus and all precautions should be taken to prevent to spread. It would have been done. People panicked anyways. Not telling people it would magically go away. Wtf, is this a children's cartoon we live in? Is this a fucking McDonald's commerical? Even though the virus is not as "deadly " as people make it seem. It came at us like a nuclear bomb and took my friends sisters life and put one of my other friends on a respirator for 2 weeks. So, yes it is a serious virus and it is different from the flu. It should have been made a bigger deal by the president than down playing it. It's always better to be over prepared than under prepared. Always better to bring more and not less. Especially with peoples health and lives.
@SirBearon ok you're clearly ranting so i'm not going to read any of that, write it again in 2 sentences or less. brief writing is a sign of a clear mind
no you can't control it; all countries are failing at controlling it, everyone has to get it eventually. all countries that appear to have controlled it are just moving the curve a few months later,
@SirBearon May I introduce @007kingifrit? He's always like that, and believes Trump doesn't tell lies. Also, that a million American lives is the price of doing business.
@007kingifrit You might like to read the part about him personally knowing someone who died of it before you dismiss him.
@goaded him knowing someone dying from it does not mean i should read his rant, infact it disqualifies his opinion; people who have experienced tragedy are less qualified to speak as they lack mental clarity
the fact is there is no policy trump could change to make this better
@goaded yes, he discounts my opinion because I have known someone in their 40s to die from it and a friend from high school nearly die from it. I'm not close with them like that. My mental clarity is perfectly fine. It's your mentality that's cloudy. I guess the Aids virus can't be managed either right?
You can do things to protect yourself from catching it or spreading it. That's all there is to it. Quite simple. If you don't know that your opinion is obsolete.
Yes, to some degree. He reacted way to slow and made things worse in the beginning by denying the existence, as well as advising harmfull and dangerous treatments.
Here's what Trump was doing about coronavirus while Democrats, liberals and their media were obsessing about impeachment😃ecember 31: China reports the discovery of the coronavirus to the World Health Organization. January 6: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) issued a travel notice for Wuhan, China due to the spreading coronavirus. January 7: The CDC established a coronavirus incident management system to better share and respond to information about the virus. January 11: The CDC issued a Level I travel health notice for Wuhan, China. January 17: The CDC began implementing public health entry screening at the 3 U. S. airports that received the most travelers from Wuhan – San Francisco, New York JFK, and Los Angeles. January 20: Dr. Fauci announces the National Institutes of Health is already working on the development of a vaccine for the coronavirus. January 21: The CDC activated its emergency operations center to provide ongoing support to the coronavirus response. January 23: The CDC sought a “special emergency authorization” from the FDA to allow states to use its newly developed coronavirus test. January 27: The CDC issued a level III travel health notice urging Americans to avoid all nonessential travel to China due to the coronavirus.
January 29: The White House announced the formation of the Coronavirus Task Force to help monitor and contain the spread of the virus and provide updates to the President. January 31: The Trump Administration: Declared the coronavirus a public health emergency. Announced Chinese travel restrictions. Suspended entry into the United States for foreign nationals who pose a risk of transmitting the coronavirus. January 31: The Department of Homeland Security took critical steps to funnel all flights from China into just 7 domestic U. S. airports. February 3: The CDC had a team ready to travel to China to obtain critical information on the novel coronavirus, but were in the U. S. awaiting permission to enter by the Chinese government. February 4: President Trump vowed in his State of the Union Address to “take all necessary steps” to protect Americans from the coronavirus.
The ONLY thing you heard out of the Democrats at that time was impeachment. Now they are blaming the president. Where were they? Trying to impeach a president and calling travel bans (that probably saved many lives) racist.
On January 29, 2020 Joe Biden in a speech in Iowa said that Trump's idea of restricting travel from China was "Xenophobic". On March 9, 2020 Bernie Sanders said he would NOT, I repeat he said he would NOT shut down travel from China. In fact Bernie said "Isn't it funny that this President's first reaction is to close the borders." February 24, 2020 Nancy Pelosi says from San Francisco's China Town to come visit, it is safe and "there are no Coronavirus concerns". Then SF became one of the epicenters of the disease. March 20, MSNBC's Rachel Maddow (as well as NY Times) bash Trump for talking about Hydroxy Cloroquin calling it a "fairy tale" and giving people false hope. Now it is being sought after to fight the disease and is being tested as helping patients recover faster. March 30, 2020 Morning Joe anchors say "everyone saw this coming in early January... yet January 24 2020, Joe Scarborough and wife Minka had a segment where they said "no Americans need to be concerned about COVID-19 and should be more concerned about the common flu. Everything I have quoted are all true and easily verified. It seems to me that the Liberal leaders and media have not been accurate about ANYTHING about COVID-19 and some how Trump has been way ahead of them. Trump nailed this one and the press does everything to blame him? Do not let the media rewrite facts. Liberals and the media on January 28th were talking about the final vote of the impeachment hearing while Trump was sounding the alarm. They all said he was trying to distract us... well guess what, he was right this time. Facts Matter
@Conspiracy_Theorist hm. If he did such a GREAT job explain to me why 7,28 million cases and over 200 thousands deaths? Clearly handled it better and isn't he the same guy who said drinking bleach would help cure covid-19?
Because we were the only a few that actually tested their own people, many countries did not. Also not all covid deaths were based solely around COVID-19, many were in the process of dying from cancer, heart issues, lung issues, and so on... hell even people that I knew that got injured in car accident, who was in critical died from his injuries but they labeled it as a covid death because he had little covid symptoms, they label it a covid death and hospitals gain a $600 bonus per death from insurance.
My friends family is furious by the way, and is in the process of suing the hospital.
You really don’t think some doctors are corrupt? Just like police but a lot more corruption in the medical field
That honestly just seems like a bunch of excuses. Of course many people who pass away from covid had other underlying diseases as well and covid worsened it, that's why old people are affect by it. Corruption has nothing to do with covid. There wouldn't be many cases if your country put up regulations and restrictions. How do you think other countries handled it so well?
@Conspiracy_Theorist No, but I do believe Korea's, Vietnam's, Australia's, New Zealand's, Iceland's, Taiwan's, Singapore's UAE's, Canada's, Germany's, Greece's, Argentina's, Malaysia's, Denmark's, Japan's... Shall I go on?
I blame the American education system for putting out such intitaled ignorant people religion for undervalueing science and making people think "god will protect them" and the police for bringing the country to the edge of civil war and sewing discontent so governments can't effectively govern there people
@Conspiracy_Theorist Fiction, yes. News (not counting the fiction on Fox), no. Maverick cop breaks the rules, catches the bad guy, gets away with it, week after week after week has to have an effect. Try watching something like "Scott & Bailey", or "Line of Duty", instead.
Oh so you’re not counting the fiction on CNN or any of the liberal owned media complexes which by the way are owned by mega liberal billionaires that don’t pay taxes 😂
no, america has one of the lowest death rates, lowest deaths per capita and an economy that has survived in decent shape. 200k dead sounds like a lot but its not and its the best we could reasonably do
Your economy and population size is probably the real clincher. To many variables, it demonstrates that America and the rest of the world could be better prepared for random catastrophes.
Brazil pm said is just goes away.4.8million. cases Sweden did nothing. 93K cases.10.2 million people. Finland did do lot of things. 10k cases. 5.5 million people.
Well USA has lots of republicans that believe their president blindly.
No but denying to this day and not ordering lockdown earlier has made it worse. So did calling an early end to it his fault. Everything he has done has been the wrong way to go about it
Yes and no. I'll just say that idiots choosing to group up to loot and burn buildings during a freaking global pandemic definitely did not help. (Who would have thought?)
No and he was right to prevent panic by withholding some information which is text book cold war era teachings! Fauci even told him to not say much! (not that I believe that pharma hugger)
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You have to wonder whether or not he would have been able to close the borders earlier if he had tried. Would the democrats have tried to block it? Could they? But it also needs to be asked did they know the same information he did? And if they did, would they have wanted to take swift action?
It's a complicated question.
Viruses gunna virus. With an interconnected world the spread is inevitable. The USA over counts infection rate and cases possibly even deaths as our for profit healthcare system has financially incentivized labeling deaths and intubations as covid. Not Trumps fault but doesn't mean he’s not an asshole.
These questions are always stated weirdly.
We know that the virus began in China. But it was always going to spread to the United States.
He is responsible for our response. He lied to the public about the seriousness of the virus. And it is breathtaking to see supporters defend him, even as he admitted to lying.
it was wise to downplay the virus to not cause a panic. we had no knowledge that it should have been handled differently at the time, its not even clear now that it wasn't the right call
He didn’t downplay it. He lied. He said the virus was not serious even as he admitted it was privately it was. And now we are dealing with months of inaction, lies and stupidity. He knew his words were leading to more people rejecting common sense measures like wearing a mask. And now the most protected man in the world, somehow has the virus. When all it took was a few simple precautions to protect him.
The world coronavirus situation is squarely the fault of the People's Republic of China.
Yes and no.
Could he have done some things better? For sure.
Are the local governments such as state governors, etc. as well as wrong information by the CDC and WHO at least as responsible? Absolutely.
There are many bad things about Trump, including some of his handling of the Covid-19 crisis.
But it would be unfair to blame him for it, just as it would be unfair to blame other extremist leaders like Johnson or Putin. Trump did not create the virus or spread it, although his wayward advice has clearly not helped to control it.
well you can't control it, only let everyone get it and then it goes away, but lockdowns aren't working
Kingfit, YES you CAN control/manage it. What the fuck? You sound just as dumb as Trump! It will NEVER go away. Trump is also to blame. If he would have just been honest and said this is a very contagious virus and all precautions should be taken to prevent to spread. It would have been done. People panicked anyways. Not telling people it would magically go away. Wtf, is this a children's cartoon we live in? Is this a fucking McDonald's commerical? Even though the virus is not as "deadly " as people make it seem. It came at us like a nuclear bomb and took my friends sisters life and put one of my other friends on a respirator for 2 weeks. So, yes it is a serious virus and it is different from the flu. It should have been made a bigger deal by the president than down playing it. It's always better to be over prepared than under prepared. Always better to bring more and not less. Especially with peoples health and lives.
@SirBearon ok you're clearly ranting so i'm not going to read any of that, write it again in 2 sentences or less. brief writing is a sign of a clear mind
no you can't control it; all countries are failing at controlling it, everyone has to get it eventually. all countries that appear to have controlled it are just moving the curve a few months later,
everyone is going to get it
@SirBearon May I introduce @007kingifrit? He's always like that, and believes Trump doesn't tell lies. Also, that a million American lives is the price of doing business.
@007kingifrit You might like to read the part about him personally knowing someone who died of it before you dismiss him.
@goaded him knowing someone dying from it does not mean i should read his rant, infact it disqualifies his opinion; people who have experienced tragedy are less qualified to speak as they lack mental clarity
the fact is there is no policy trump could change to make this better
@SirBearon See what I mean?
@goaded yes, he discounts my opinion because I have known someone in their 40s to die from it and a friend from high school nearly die from it. I'm not close with them like that. My mental clarity is perfectly fine. It's your mentality that's cloudy. I guess the Aids virus can't be managed either right?
You can do things to protect yourself from catching it or spreading it. That's all there is to it. Quite simple. If you don't know that your opinion is obsolete.
sort of yes , he refused to take it seriously but if there is anyone we have blame more than trump , it's his supporters
seriously these uneducated religious people are questioning qualified doctors and medical professionals , like they know better than anyone else
Trump's telling them they don't have to listen to experts. Actually, that's the Republican party for the last couple of decades.
Yes, to some degree. He reacted way to slow and made things worse in the beginning by denying the existence, as well as advising harmfull and dangerous treatments.
He definitely could've done a better job in handling it but it's also the citizens who are involved.
He did a better job than any other ya politician did...
@Conspiracy_Theorist um... sure... keep telling yourself that hahah
Here's what Trump was doing about coronavirus while Democrats, liberals and their media were obsessing about impeachment😃ecember 31: China reports the discovery of the coronavirus to the World Health Organization. January 6: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) issued a travel notice for Wuhan, China due to the spreading coronavirus. January 7: The CDC established a coronavirus incident management system to better share and respond to information about the virus. January 11: The CDC issued a Level I travel health notice for Wuhan, China. January 17: The CDC began implementing public health entry screening at the 3 U. S. airports that received the most travelers from Wuhan – San Francisco, New York JFK, and Los Angeles. January 20: Dr. Fauci announces the National Institutes of Health is already working on the development of a vaccine for the coronavirus. January 21: The CDC activated its emergency operations center to provide ongoing support to the coronavirus response. January 23: The CDC sought a “special emergency authorization” from the FDA to allow states to use its newly developed coronavirus test. January 27: The CDC issued a level III travel health notice urging Americans to avoid all nonessential travel to China due to the coronavirus.
January 29: The White House announced the formation of the Coronavirus Task Force to help monitor and contain the spread of the virus and provide updates to the President.
January 31: The Trump Administration:
Declared the coronavirus a public health emergency.
Announced Chinese travel restrictions.
Suspended entry into the United States for foreign nationals who pose a risk of transmitting the coronavirus.
January 31: The Department of Homeland Security took critical steps to funnel all flights from China into just 7 domestic U. S. airports.
February 3: The CDC had a team ready to travel to China to obtain critical information on the novel coronavirus, but were in the U. S. awaiting permission to enter by the Chinese government.
February 4: President Trump vowed in his State of the Union Address to “take all necessary steps” to protect Americans from the coronavirus.
The ONLY thing you heard out of the Democrats at that time was impeachment. Now they are blaming the president. Where were they? Trying to impeach a president and calling travel bans (that probably saved many lives) racist.
On January 29, 2020 Joe Biden in a speech in Iowa said that Trump's idea of restricting travel from China was "Xenophobic". On March 9, 2020 Bernie Sanders said he would NOT, I repeat he said he would NOT shut down travel from China. In fact Bernie said "Isn't it funny that this President's first reaction is to close the borders." February 24, 2020 Nancy Pelosi says from San Francisco's China Town to come visit, it is safe and "there are no Coronavirus concerns". Then SF became one of the epicenters of the disease. March 20, MSNBC's Rachel Maddow (as well as NY Times) bash Trump for talking about Hydroxy Cloroquin calling it a "fairy tale" and giving people false hope. Now it is being sought after to fight the disease and is being tested as helping patients recover faster. March 30, 2020 Morning Joe anchors say "everyone saw this coming in early January... yet January 24 2020, Joe Scarborough and wife Minka had a segment where they said "no Americans need to be concerned about COVID-19 and should be more concerned about the common flu. Everything I have quoted are all true and easily verified. It seems to me that the Liberal leaders and media have not been accurate about ANYTHING about COVID-19 and some how Trump has been way ahead of them. Trump nailed this one and the press does everything to blame him? Do not let the media rewrite facts. Liberals and the media on January 28th were talking about the final vote of the impeachment hearing while Trump was sounding the alarm. They all said he was trying to distract us... well guess what, he was right this time. Facts Matter
Should we continue?
@Conspiracy_Theorist hm. If he did such a GREAT job explain to me why 7,28 million cases and over 200 thousands deaths? Clearly handled it better and isn't he the same guy who said drinking bleach would help cure covid-19?
The US is the country with the worst COVID response.
Because we were the only a few that actually tested their own people, many countries did not. Also not all covid deaths were based solely around COVID-19, many were in the process of dying from cancer, heart issues, lung issues, and so on... hell even people that I knew that got injured in car accident, who was in critical died from his injuries but they labeled it as a covid death because he had little covid symptoms, they label it a covid death and hospitals gain a $600 bonus per death from insurance.
My friends family is furious by the way, and is in the process of suing the hospital.
You really don’t think some doctors are corrupt? Just like police but a lot more corruption in the medical field
China has the highest number but clearly their holding back.
@Conspiracy_Theorist
That honestly just seems like a bunch of excuses. Of course many people who pass away from covid had other underlying diseases as well and covid worsened it, that's why old people are affect by it. Corruption has nothing to do with covid. There wouldn't be many cases if your country put up regulations and restrictions. How do you think other countries handled it so well?
Corruption has a lot to do with covid mislabeling deaths is corruption and a federal offense and many doctors have been caught doing it during covid
Other countries haven’t though many are hiding numbers too...
Like do you believe North Korea, China, Iran, and England’s numbers? 😂
All lied
@Conspiracy_Theorist No, but I do believe Korea's, Vietnam's, Australia's, New Zealand's, Iceland's, Taiwan's, Singapore's UAE's, Canada's, Germany's, Greece's, Argentina's, Malaysia's, Denmark's, Japan's... Shall I go on?
So America is that corrupt? I didn't know, I mean even Vietnam who I thought was more corrupt than America handled it well.
he can't actually do anymore; the 10th amendment says states are responsible for pandemic response
in the age of information people still think the president makes decisions that effect something other than social climate. amazing...
Social climate like: "should I wear a mask?"? It's important!
Trump called china up and told them "let's do this thingy" and they released it
I got this source from different GaG users
rofl
I blame the American education system for putting out such intitaled ignorant people religion for undervalueing science and making people think "god will protect them" and the police for bringing the country to the edge of civil war and sewing discontent so governments can't effectively govern there people
And decades of JAG/NCIS saying it doesn't matter if you break the law, as long as you kill the bad guy.
You mean the media? Lol 😂
@Conspiracy_Theorist Fiction, yes. News (not counting the fiction on Fox), no. Maverick cop breaks the rules, catches the bad guy, gets away with it, week after week after week has to have an effect. Try watching something like "Scott & Bailey", or "Line of Duty", instead.
Oh so you’re not counting the fiction on CNN or any of the liberal owned media complexes which by the way are owned by mega liberal billionaires that don’t pay taxes 😂
Liberals are hypocrites
You’re a hypocrite
no, america has one of the lowest death rates, lowest deaths per capita and an economy that has survived in decent shape. 200k dead sounds like a lot but its not and its the best we could reasonably do
Your economy and population size is probably the real clincher. To many variables, it demonstrates that America and the rest of the world could be better prepared for random catastrophes.
Of course not. There's no legitimacy to back that claim.
Brazil pm said is just goes away.4.8million. cases
Sweden did nothing. 93K cases.10.2 million people.
Finland did do lot of things. 10k cases. 5.5 million people.
Well USA has lots of republicans that believe their president blindly.
It affected every country in the world. He shut travel down early. He signed the Defense Production Act. Of course not!
No but denying to this day and not ordering lockdown earlier has made it worse. So did calling an early end to it his fault. Everything he has done has been the wrong way to go about it
Karma seems to have caught up with him. He should be ok he already said its not much worse than the flu.
Yes and no. I'll just say that idiots choosing to group up to loot and burn buildings during a freaking global pandemic definitely did not help. (Who would have thought?)
No and he was right to prevent panic by withholding some information which is text book cold war era teachings! Fauci even told him to not say much! (not that I believe that pharma hugger)