However, at the end of the day, to the extent that there have been failures, the finger of blame points to state and local authorities, as well as to a media that speaks with more authority than knowledge of science. There being something especially comical in seeing commentators who only a month ago were authorities on politics and elections being able to turn on a dime and pronounce on medical science and public health policy.The real problem being that, at the end of the day, the culture needs to grow up. There are no easy or perfect answers. The best plan is apt to be grotesquely inadequate given the limits of medical science, the nature of the constitutional system, the competing needs of science, human psychology, economics, and man's imperfect nature - very much including the imperfect President for whom more responsibility is assigned than power to act has been imprudently given.Yes indeed, given the Federal nature of the American constitutional system juxtaposed to the relatively low per capita fatality rates and all the rest, the President does indeed have a half decent plan for dealing with Covid. Because "half decent" is as apt to be as good as it gets.
This is what happens when someone asks you what time it is... haha
@Girther10 True enough. However, in fairness, most people are content with one sentence - or worse still one word - answers. Their understanding being equally shallow. There is a reason that this site makes provision for 4000 character replies is because its' owners - if not most of its' users - understand that complex ideas require extended understandings. When you consider that whole libraries of books have been written on these topics, that is not unreasonable.Still, guilty as charged. Thanks for the "thumbs up."
@prof- you are right I hope you know that I meant that in a nice way I always appreciate your thorough narratives on most topics but sometimes I just question whether or not you’re speaking above most of these peoples heads. But I love having these on record and I often look back on your narratives because they are so timely and accurate they are a great reference in my humble opinion so please keep doing what you are doing is not falling on completely dead ears.
And now as I see our president being hospitalized for COVID-19 this topic almost seems ancient things are happening so fast it’s really hard to keep up and we need to take a step back and look at the big picture take the stairs up to the balcony and check it out from there
@Girther10 Thanks. Yes, I will keep doing this. It is a hobby for me and I don't really worry too much who "gets it" and who not. When you do, as I do, write for other people and what they want, it is fun to go your own way and "do your own thing." Of course, I don't write for people with whom I am in disagreement with, but every client has their own quirks - and as far as my writing, they tend to prefer something less "high brow," though not always. So this site, under the cloak of my "Nightdrot" nom de guerre allows me to say what I want, in the way that I want, and be heard by at least some folks.Not least good folks like yourself. Thanks again.
Since you brought it up, what exactly is the significance of your “nom de guirre”? Nightdrot has-what meaning, besides what you’ve so eloquently written thus far?
If you ever have the time, I’d like to hear what you might suggest for a society to “just grow up”- already. How does one help that to occur, if at all?
@Girther10 On your second posting - we don't have enough space or time. That said, in any case, the biggest fallacy of statecraft is that there is some magic formula in answer to such questions. Societies grow and change organically - sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse. Never perfectly as perfection is not given to imperfect beings in an imperfect world.For my part, I would argue a greater emphasis on the study of history, a greater appreciation for what we have, less emphasis on gadgets and visuals starts the list. Note: Starts it. However, it is academic and, in any case, to propose a formula for society's perfection runs the risk of going down the path of Marx, Mussolini and Hitler.It has a bad history.As to my nom de guerre. No real significance. It is one part the first word in the title of a television show that I liked as a child. The word "Drot" was the nickname one of my favorite high school teachers gave to another of my favorite high school teachers. The latter had a key chain with the name of a construction company whose long name was reduced to the acronym "DROT."So the one teacher gave the other teacher the nickname - he joked at how feminine it was.So I just combined the two into Nightdrot. Nothing deeper than that and a bit of nostalgia.
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of course the piece you are missing is that Europe will be in lockdown far longer than america, and many countries in Europe still have higher deaths per capitaEurope didn't handle this better, when its all over you will have destroyed your economy for no reason, sweden was right
@007kingifrit We're not in lockdown any more, my kids are in school, wearing masks (voluntarily, mind you), shops are open, sports centres, too, and the only European countries still with a worse total deaths per capita than the US are Belguim and Spain, which currently have 2.6, and less than 1 deaths per million, compared to the US's 731.
you also conveniently don't admit you're having a second wave all across Europe
@007kingifrit Not at all. It's currently at 0.79 per million, compared to the US's 2.16.
Admittedly, it's up from the 0.2 it was at while the US was at 2.5.
January 29: The White House announced the formation of the Coronavirus Task Force to help monitor and contain the spread of the virus and provide updates to the President.January 31: The Trump Administration:Declared the coronavirus a public health emergency.Announced Chinese travel restrictions.Suspended entry into the United States for foreign nationals who pose a risk of transmitting the coronavirus.January 31: The Department of Homeland Security took critical steps to funnel all flights from China into just 7 domestic U. S. airports.February 3: The CDC had a team ready to travel to China to obtain critical information on the novel coronavirus, but were in the U. S. awaiting permission to enter by the Chinese government.February 4: President Trump vowed in his State of the Union Address to “take all necessary steps” to protect Americans from the coronavirus.
The ONLY thing you heard out of the Democrats at that time was impeachment. Now they are blaming the president. Where were they? Trying to impeach a president and calling travel bans (that probably saved many lives) racist.On January 29, 2020 Joe Biden in a speech in Iowa said that Trump's idea of restricting travel from China was "Xenophobic". On March 9, 2020 Bernie Sanders said he would NOT, I repeat he said he would NOT shut down travel from China. In fact Bernie said "Isn't it funny that this President's first reaction is to close the borders." February 24, 2020 Nancy Pelosi says from San Francisco's China Town to come visit, it is safe and "there are no Coronavirus concerns". Then SF became one of the epicenters of the disease. March 20, MSNBC's Rachel Maddow (as well as NY Times) bash Trump for talking about Hydroxy Cloroquin calling it a "fairy tale" and giving people false hope. Now it is being sought after to fight the disease and is being tested as helping patients recover faster. March 30, 2020 Morning Joe anchors say "everyone saw this coming in early January... yet January 24 2020, Joe Scarborough and wife Minka had a segment where they said "no Americans need to be concerned about COVID-19 and should be more concerned about the common flu. Everything I have quoted are all true and easily verified. It seems to me that the Liberal leaders and media have not been accurate about ANYTHING about COVID-19 and some how Trump has been way ahead of them. Trump nailed this one and the press does everything to blame him? Do not let the media rewrite facts. Liberals and the media on January 28th were talking about the final vote of the impeachment hearing while Trump was sounding the alarm. They all said he was trying to distract us... well guess what, he was right this time. Facts Matter"
Actualy no. Aside from directing the CDC which he in fact did, most corona virus response is the responsibility of state govoners not the president.
void is right, the 10th amendment is very clear that all pandemic response is done at the state level
@007kingifrit Most presidents support the states, when they need it.
@goaded as trump did, he supplied them with all the materials they needed. that's all he is allowed to do
@007kingifrit He is allowed to do a hell of a lot more. He's omnipotent when you want him to be, but has his hands tied when he doesn't do something.
The president is not now or ever been omnipotent. And the president shouldn't be omnipotent, we have separation of powers for a reason. And as I recall when eupean nations started reporting that hydroxychloroquin was effective in treating covid symptoms, and trump suggested we start using it because it showed promising results. It was democrat govoners that out right banned it use in states like Michigan. If you don't like how vovid was handled sort your own party out before you start pointing fingers
@captain_voidwalker That never happened. The UK had possibly the widest ranging test, because of the NHS, and this is what a right-wing paper reported: "Hydroxychloroquine does NOT treat Covid-19: Biggest study into the Donald Trump-backed anti-malaria drug is ended with 'immediate effect' after researchers found it made no difference Oxford University scientists pulled the drug from the RECOVERY trial today Results showed it had no benefit on NHS patients hospitalised with the virus Scientists running the trial has urged doctors around the world to stop using it"www.dailymail.co.uk/.../...t-study-drug-finds.html"A quarter of NHS patients given hydroxychloroquine died from Covid-19, compared to 23.5 per cent who were not prescribed the drug.The scientists running the trial, which has recruited more than 1,500 patients from around 170 UK hospitals, said the results were 'pretty compelling', adding: 'This isn't a treatment that works.'Professor Martin Landray, lead author of the study, added: 'If you're admitted to hospital with Covid – you, your mother or anyone else - hydroxychloroquine is not the right treatment. It doesn't work.'He called for doctors around the world to stop using the drug, which can cause a slew of nasty side effects including heart arrhythmias, headaches and vomiting. "
@goaded you can point to all kinds of studies saying all kinds of things, its still just one guy's opinion
@007kingifrit No, it's not, it's scientific research.
@goaded individual studies are always just one guy's opinion, only in context of multiple studies representative of a body of research does it become more
@007kingifrit Rubbish, as usual. This was a scientific study of 1,500 patients, and it didn't work. It's not just a guess, that's not how science works.
They're double speaking you. Hydroxycloroquin didn't specifically treat covid. What it did was treat covid symptoms. This realy isn't that suprising since it was a drug used to treat malaria. Malaria and covid have a similar set of symptoms. This was proven and many doctors recommend the use of Hydroxycloroquin. But because orange man must always be bad it got banned in democrat states.
@captain_voidwalker It was worth a try, but it doesn't help to treat symptoms, if you end up dying anyway. The NHS is Britain's health service, and they tried it on 1500 people, and slightly more of them died than weren't treated with the drug. Nothing to do with Trump.
Anyone who uses hindsight whentalking about this is not being realistic. It’s easy to do that, and lazy.
@Girther10 but this isn't about hindsight... i feel you missed my point when i said he saw china surpress the virus very early on and then saw what happens when you dont lockdown soon enough in Europe. nothing to do with hindsight but everything to do with seeing waht others did, the outcome of that and then acting accordingly.
I'd say at least 73,000 lives, and Biden (or Clinton) would have done better; why would they have undone Obama's pandemic plans?
@wankiam when your current trajectory is adjusted because of what you have seen happen in the past- is the very definition of hindsight- is it not?
@Girther10 depends if you see the past as some time ago or something that just happened right infront of you which you chose not to learn from... yes if you want to be pedantic hindsight could include that but for me it really doesn't when we are talking days rather than years
I forgot to say that what i said is the same with every country in the world, if you didn't what you must do so don't blame anyone except yourself, but if the people was awarded but the Government was doing everything in the wrong way so in this case you can blame them
we did not know about it in October
Your correct late November early December is when I heard about it.
okay sorry for reporting you @007kingifrit
actually the 10th amendment makes clear the president has no power to set policy in a pandemic; its all the states that do it
@007kingifrit the 10th amendment simply states that if the president does not hold the power, then it goes to the states. However, the federal branch can override state government policies if it sees fit. The President's main job is to "implement and enforce" laws passed by congress. Laws that he has the right to propose and veto. And the 10th amendment was written in the 18th century. A pandemic (not an epidemic) hadn't occurred until the late 1800's. There would have been no reason to incorporate something like this.
it was wise to downplay the virus to not cause a panic. we had no knowledge that it should have been handled differently at the time, its not even clear now that it wasn't the right call
He didn’t downplay it. He lied. He said the virus was not serious even as he admitted it was privately it was. And now we are dealing with months of inaction, lies and stupidity. He knew his words were leading to more people rejecting common sense measures like wearing a mask. And now the most protected man in the world, somehow has the virus. When all it took was a few simple precautions to protect him.
well you can't control it, only let everyone get it and then it goes away, but lockdowns aren't working
Kingfit, YES you CAN control/manage it. What the fuck? You sound just as dumb as Trump! It will NEVER go away. Trump is also to blame. If he would have just been honest and said this is a very contagious virus and all precautions should be taken to prevent to spread. It would have been done. People panicked anyways. Not telling people it would magically go away. Wtf, is this a children's cartoon we live in? Is this a fucking McDonald's commerical? Even though the virus is not as "deadly " as people make it seem. It came at us like a nuclear bomb and took my friends sisters life and put one of my other friends on a respirator for 2 weeks. So, yes it is a serious virus and it is different from the flu. It should have been made a bigger deal by the president than down playing it. It's always better to be over prepared than under prepared. Always better to bring more and not less. Especially with peoples health and lives.
@SirBearon ok you're clearly ranting so i'm not going to read any of that, write it again in 2 sentences or less. brief writing is a sign of a clear mindno you can't control it; all countries are failing at controlling it, everyone has to get it eventually. all countries that appear to have controlled it are just moving the curve a few months later, everyone is going to get it
@SirBearon May I introduce @007kingifrit? He's always like that, and believes Trump doesn't tell lies. Also, that a million American lives is the price of doing business.@007kingifrit You might like to read the part about him personally knowing someone who died of it before you dismiss him.
@goaded him knowing someone dying from it does not mean i should read his rant, infact it disqualifies his opinion; people who have experienced tragedy are less qualified to speak as they lack mental clarity the fact is there is no policy trump could change to make this better
@SirBearon See what I mean?
@goaded yes, he discounts my opinion because I have known someone in their 40s to die from it and a friend from high school nearly die from it. I'm not close with them like that. My mental clarity is perfectly fine. It's your mentality that's cloudy. I guess the Aids virus can't be managed either right?
You can do things to protect yourself from catching it or spreading it. That's all there is to it. Quite simple. If you don't know that your opinion is obsolete.
And decades of JAG/NCIS saying it doesn't matter if you break the law, as long as you kill the bad guy.
You mean the media? Lol 😂
@Conspiracy_Theorist Fiction, yes. News (not counting the fiction on Fox), no. Maverick cop breaks the rules, catches the bad guy, gets away with it, week after week after week has to have an effect. Try watching something like "Scott & Bailey", or "Line of Duty", instead.
Oh so you’re not counting the fiction on CNN or any of the liberal owned media complexes which by the way are owned by mega liberal billionaires that don’t pay taxes 😂
Liberals are hypocrites
You’re a hypocrite
Trump's telling them they don't have to listen to experts. Actually, that's the Republican party for the last couple of decades.
Oh like the public would listen, they are currently burning down cities and looting... 98.9% of them are BLM and Antifa 😂
You 18 you are still naive and let the popular opinion around influence your sense of judgment including the media.
@JustTheTrue You really can't stop yourself from reacting to people's ages, can you? Why not address their arguments, instead?
@goadedTheStalker stalking much aren’t you? I had destroyed you in every thread and you keep coming back for more. Damn that’s a lot of dedication, but you should learn that you aren’t always to win against a prodigy like me. Lol
@JustTheTrue Oh, another one that's "destroyed" me. Bully for you. It's a claim usually made by people who hope nobody looks at our previous interactions.I can find all of two: Trump has the Rona, Trump has the Rona, what do you think? ↗ What do you think of this Presidential debate? ↗The second is particularly cringeworthy.
@goadedTheStalker I don’t mind if they do. Lol
Tell @goadedthestalker I said hi, he blocked me because he couldn’t handle my troll.
You guys seem to have a thing for each other why don’t one of you ask the other out?
Clearly there is some sexual tension between you two.
there isn't really much he could do considering the 10th amendment
@Conspiracy_Theorist I blocked you? Gosh, then I can't possibly be responding to your lie, can I?I've never blocked anyone.
Aww a simple troll got you all angry how cute...
You block everyone...
@007kingifrit Does the 10th Amendment say the federal government is precluded from offering advice and assistance? Does the "bully pulpit" mean nothing?
@goaded he offered advice, don't lock down and take these supplies as we give them; and the red states that obeyed him have a lower death rate than the blue states that ignored him
@007kingifrit Which red states would they be? California has less than average deaths per million, Florida, Georgia, and Arizona have more. The states that were hit early were unprepared, the rest of the country could have learned from them, but didn't. And that was because of Trump.
He did a better job than any other ya politician did...
@Conspiracy_Theorist um... sure... keep telling yourself that hahah
Here's what Trump was doing about coronavirus while Democrats, liberals and their media were obsessing about impeachment😃ecember 31: China reports the discovery of the coronavirus to the World Health Organization. January 6: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) issued a travel notice for Wuhan, China due to the spreading coronavirus. January 7: The CDC established a coronavirus incident management system to better share and respond to information about the virus. January 11: The CDC issued a Level I travel health notice for Wuhan, China. January 17: The CDC began implementing public health entry screening at the 3 U. S. airports that received the most travelers from Wuhan – San Francisco, New York JFK, and Los Angeles. January 20: Dr. Fauci announces the National Institutes of Health is already working on the development of a vaccine for the coronavirus. January 21: The CDC activated its emergency operations center to provide ongoing support to the coronavirus response. January 23: The CDC sought a “special emergency authorization” from the FDA to allow states to use its newly developed coronavirus test. January 27: The CDC issued a level III travel health notice urging Americans to avoid all nonessential travel to China due to the coronavirus.
The ONLY thing you heard out of the Democrats at that time was impeachment. Now they are blaming the president. Where were they? Trying to impeach a president and calling travel bans (that probably saved many lives) racist.On January 29, 2020 Joe Biden in a speech in Iowa said that Trump's idea of restricting travel from China was "Xenophobic". On March 9, 2020 Bernie Sanders said he would NOT, I repeat he said he would NOT shut down travel from China. In fact Bernie said "Isn't it funny that this President's first reaction is to close the borders." February 24, 2020 Nancy Pelosi says from San Francisco's China Town to come visit, it is safe and "there are no Coronavirus concerns". Then SF became one of the epicenters of the disease. March 20, MSNBC's Rachel Maddow (as well as NY Times) bash Trump for talking about Hydroxy Cloroquin calling it a "fairy tale" and giving people false hope. Now it is being sought after to fight the disease and is being tested as helping patients recover faster. March 30, 2020 Morning Joe anchors say "everyone saw this coming in early January... yet January 24 2020, Joe Scarborough and wife Minka had a segment where they said "no Americans need to be concerned about COVID-19 and should be more concerned about the common flu. Everything I have quoted are all true and easily verified. It seems to me that the Liberal leaders and media have not been accurate about ANYTHING about COVID-19 and some how Trump has been way ahead of them. Trump nailed this one and the press does everything to blame him? Do not let the media rewrite facts. Liberals and the media on January 28th were talking about the final vote of the impeachment hearing while Trump was sounding the alarm. They all said he was trying to distract us... well guess what, he was right this time. Facts Matter
Should we continue?
@Conspiracy_Theorist hm. If he did such a GREAT job explain to me why 7,28 million cases and over 200 thousands deaths? Clearly handled it better and isn't he the same guy who said drinking bleach would help cure covid-19?
The US is the country with the worst COVID response.
Because we were the only a few that actually tested their own people, many countries did not. Also not all covid deaths were based solely around COVID-19, many were in the process of dying from cancer, heart issues, lung issues, and so on... hell even people that I knew that got injured in car accident, who was in critical died from his injuries but they labeled it as a covid death because he had little covid symptoms, they label it a covid death and hospitals gain a $600 bonus per death from insurance. My friends family is furious by the way, and is in the process of suing the hospital.You really don’t think some doctors are corrupt? Just like police but a lot more corruption in the medical field
China has the highest number but clearly their holding back.
@Conspiracy_Theorist That honestly just seems like a bunch of excuses. Of course many people who pass away from covid had other underlying diseases as well and covid worsened it, that's why old people are affect by it. Corruption has nothing to do with covid. There wouldn't be many cases if your country put up regulations and restrictions. How do you think other countries handled it so well?
Corruption has a lot to do with covid mislabeling deaths is corruption and a federal offense and many doctors have been caught doing it during covid
Other countries haven’t though many are hiding numbers too...
Like do you believe North Korea, China, Iran, and England’s numbers? 😂
@Conspiracy_Theorist No, but I do believe Korea's, Vietnam's, Australia's, New Zealand's, Iceland's, Taiwan's, Singapore's UAE's, Canada's, Germany's, Greece's, Argentina's, Malaysia's, Denmark's, Japan's... Shall I go on?
So America is that corrupt? I didn't know, I mean even Vietnam who I thought was more corrupt than America handled it well.
he can't actually do anymore; the 10th amendment says states are responsible for pandemic response
Social climate like: "should I wear a mask?"? It's important!
that's a very simplistic way to look at it, read the 10th amendment
People can get mad all they want!! It’s not all to blame but he is the main reason most people did not take it seriously duhhj
it only kills 2.8 people per 1000 who get it; it really shouldn't be taken very seriously. locking down did more harm than the pandemic did
@007kingifrit Your figure is probably wrong, but it's still nearly a million Americans.
@007kingifrit Correction: Your figure is probably wrong, but it's still only nearly a million Americans.
@goaded there's no other outcome, no my 2.8 is correct and everyone has to get it
@007kingifrit No, they don't. We keep it away from as many people as possible until there is a working and safe vaccine, vaccinate as many people as possible, then they don't get the disease. How much is a person's life worth to you?
@goaded there may never be a vaccine and even with a flu vaccine 40k people die a year. plus the economic damage just isn't worth it
@007kingifrit I think the USA trump should of close the airplane ✈️ when we knew about China!!! They have lie when Obama was president... but Obama took action faster and trump was a little slow you get me
what do you mean obama took action faster? when? he wasn't president during this. and we didn't have enough info to ban air travel
@007kingifrit do your research 🧐 you don’t know
I'm NOT the one blaming him. I'm asking this question because I read a lot of comments only blaming him. I NEVER stated my opinion on the matter.
The initial response was five or six months ago. Half the people to die from the virus in the US died in the last four months, and they weren't in the states that were hit first.
i don't think he botched the initial response i think he acted pretty fast based on what we knew at the time
@007kingifrit He's on audio saying it was deadly and airbourne on Feb 7th!
They'd have followed his lead, if he'd bothered to do so. Something like 50 more people drank bleach in Texas alone than previous years. Wearing a mask doesn't hurt you.
Karma seems to have caught up with him. He should be ok he already said its not much worse than the flu.
this is lowkey the best response; there was no way to contain it in any country
but your country did worse by any measure
@007kingifrit did we?
yea; the UK had higher deaths per capita and a higher mortality rate
@007kingifrit according to Trump
no, according to global international rankings
@007kingifrit yes trump statistics
... no... the international rankings are very clear; the UK has higher deaths per capita than america
The bitterness in your heart will weigh heavy. I hope you find joy in your life.
ladies and gentlmen this is why we must all vote trump; because the other side is evil
@007kingifrit He's responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of Americans, but she's evil?
@goaded I can't stand Trump, but you should never wish death on anyone - even Trump.
@goaded he is responsible for not a single death, he did all he was supposed to, nobody can propose any policy that he should have done differently
@007kingifrit The policies followed in Europe (27 different countries, with different cultures, and languages) kept the number of deaths since June down to 17% of those before. America's nearly doubled. The pandemic is managable, your boy just didn't bother.
@goaded what specific policies? either name specific policies or admit you can't
@007kingifrit Masks, social distancing, lockdowns when tests in an area report more than a certain percentage positive, hand sanitisers, limits to the number of people in a shop at a time based on the square footage, restaurants only serving take-away, taking names and addresses of customers (for contact tracing) in hairdressers, restaurants, sports centres, etc., hiring people to trace contacts in case of positive tests.That's off the top of my head without looking anything up. 73,000 Americans died because people were told it was no big deal, by Trump and people like you.Contact tracing apps on mobile phones...
You are bitter, you must live a sad lonely life. No need to hate and wish other people to die. I don’t care if you wish someone to get a heartbreak because they played you, but wishing someone to die is a type of sociopath behavior. You need to see a therapist pronto. Your type of mentality is no bueno
@goaded the actual science on all of those subjects is more nuanced than you wish it to be. masks are not an inherent good only for certain people in certain situations and with certain training; even then their effect is marginaland they were right it is no big deal. an economic crash would kill 60 to 100 million far more important than the pandemic
@JustTheTrue Is this you "destroying" me, "again"? Well done!
@007kingifrit You don't need training to wear a simple mask over your mouth and nose, and it works by making it less likely (not impossible) that you infect other people. We've had economic crashes, and they haven't killed nearly as many people as you make out.How did you asking for specific policies work out? Did you forget you asked?A reminder, I said: Masks, social distancing, lockdowns when tests in an area report more than a certain percentage positive, hand sanitisers, limits to the number of people in a shop at a time based on the square footage, restaurants only serving take-away, taking names and addresses of customers (for contact tracing) in hairdressers, restaurants, sports centres, etc., hiring people to trace contacts in case of positive tests.
@goaded I was talking to the commentator aka the anonymous girl not you. It seems you got some kind of obsession with me. I gotta remind you I’m a guy and I’m only into girls. Sorry bud, if you want a man on man relationship. You can ask one of your liberal buddies. Lol
@goaded actually wearing masks correctly is a full class in med school. its not as simple as you think
it is fake news that trump ever called it a hoax. he didn't let it in, nobody could have known that fast to stop it
i think he handled it pretty well, our death rate is lower than any other country and our per capita deaths are low too
Why did my comment get so many likes and minuses? I wondered friends 😃
Because you're blaming the Chinese, which people agree with my friend.
Ahahah No, I don't blame the Chinese. Only the virus spread from China to the world and in response to the question, Trump is not Chinese, so I wanted to answer that he does not live in China.
Yes, I know my friend. It originated in China. But who's fault is it then?
Of cuourse; excotic, terrible and disgubting food fault of Chinese 🦎🐍🐢🐸🐊🐉🐲🦕🦖🦡🐀🐁🐽🐗🐖
It's from deforestation and overpopulation. Many countries eat weird things. That by itself is not enough of an explanation.
It is evident from your nickname that you are Chinese or Korean or other far east countries. And judging by the interpretation you are really offended. Also you may be right in according to yourself. But no matter what, a country should not eat such terrible animals. At least he should have self-respect. For example, I personally prefer to be vegetarian rather than eat such disgusting animals. And finally I'm sending my respect and love to you.
And I think I made the wrong opinion because I got the question wrong. Sorry. I read the question as "Did the just coronavirus develop trump?" that's why I wrote such an opinion. But the question is completely different. And it was a question that was asked because the trump "could not take adequate precautions against coronavirus". But I still think that every country "should especially pay attention to the animals it eats" and "you need eat clean animals while eating meat". This is the culture dangerous. even if you don't think of the world, think about your health and your stomach. I beg you and to the countries that keep this culture alive. Note: And I want to add this: My English is not good enough, I hope you can understand what I have written, so sorry for that.
Oh ok I understand what you mean I agree thanks.
And, my goal was not definitely to defend the trump. Certainly i am not trumpist.