Is Derek Chauvin Innocent or Guilty regarding the death of George Floyd?

[Physics-Man]

Guilty

Innocent

[goaded]

In a sane society, guilty. Once the handcuffs are on, he's not a danger to anyone, especially with multiple police standing around. He should have let him up, sat him down, and called an ambulance.

That would also have defused the tension in the people watching.

Which leads me to realise another obvious truth. The BLM protests were triggered by the violent death of an innocent person (no crimes he may have committed carried the death penalty, and he wasn't an imminent threat to anyone), the Captol attack was a violent act because of lies about the results of a peaceful election.

[hellionthesagereborn]

Well considering George floyd based upon reports died of phentonal and meth overdose and Chauvin was following protocol and training (he was definitly trained improperly but the manual clearly showed the technique he was using), I'd say innocent. I think it does show that the police need more funding and better training, I think it shows that the media is parasitic and feeds off of suffering hence them lying and blowing everything out of proportion, I think it shows that people are ill informed and don't think for themselves, but ultimately I think all the information we have does show that he was ultimately innocent.

[purplepoppy]

Innocent. He was following a well established sop on restraining criminals as he was taught and had probably done countless times before. Do people really think the police are going to let them go if they complain it's hurting or they can't breathe? The police aren't stupid and know people who can't breathe can't shout.

[yolo18]

This is the most ignorant thing I read today. It's ridiculous, even the police department, the Chef Executive Officer (C. E. O) stated the way Chauvin dealt with Floyd wasn't in the way police officers where taught to conduct cases like that. Especially when he was cooperating during the arrest. is not that he ran off, or refused to get arrested y'all. He had no weapons on him, I don't understand why 3 police officers felt the need to get so violent. For WHAT? And you are saying Chauvin got arrested for no reason. Damn girl.

[yolo18]

Here's a useful news article wrote my professional, not by me. You need it. www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52861726
Copy and paste. It's good to inform yourself and get more knowledgeable. It's a good brain exercise👍🏽

[purplepoppy]

Bullshit. Have you ever seen someone being restrained by the police. They're all mr hardman until the police grab them then they play the police brutality card at the slightest touch.

[JackSmy]

@purplepoppy With respect, Good Lady, I have watched the video, and the cop did not NEED to be kneeing on him, as long as he was!
When someone is handcuffed, and just saying that they cannot breathe, why wouldn't a Good Officer, release him, help him sit up, and ensure that he was OK? When detained, and handcuffed, the police assume responsibility for the livelihood of the person being detained! If that person dies, the Police FCKED UP! Plain and SIMPLE! THEY FCKED UP!!
The video shows that he was NO THREAT AT ALL, at that point, and just struggling to breathe, either because of the Nazi, I mean Police officer, kneeling on his neck, or from all the drugs he had taken!
However, several reports have come out, from the autopsies, and Flyod was HIGH, and his system was so loaded with drugs, that he probably would have died, later that day, even if the police didn't detain him.
I believe that if Floyd was white, he would be alive today!!

[LuvMeSomeBoys]

Chauvin’s actions were not in line with MPD’s use of force policy or his training, which was more than ample reason to fire him. Whether or not a second degree murder charge will hold up is for the judge and jury to decide. There’s plenty of room for reasonable doubt, and the case against him is pretty flimsy. We’ll see.

[JackSmy]

@LuvMeSomeBoys Yeah, and I respect DUE PROCESS, and the whole legal action! What I hate, is the response, AFTER the verdict, like in Rodney King, in California, when angry DOUCH-bags thought it was OK to burn businesses, and buildings because they disagreed with the verdict!!
The only GOOD thing, that came from that, was pictures of the KOREANS, with AR-15s and AK-47, civilian, Semi-automatic, and NOT "ASSAULT RIFLES" defending their stores, that DIDN'T GET BURNED!!!
FUCK THE GUN BANNER Liberals!! That is WHY we need them!!!
Many in Minneapolis are AFRAID this is going to happen here, too, with ignorant FCKS, just destroying things, businesses, that HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CASE!!!
Oh, wait, IT DID HAPPEN, LAST June! BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF DAMAGE!!!
The Police did NOTHING but HIDE!! One of their precincts was burned, and they cowered, and hid!!
"Protect and Serve" MY ASS!!!
So many, have bought guns, just to PROTECT THEMSELVES, since all of the BULLSHIT talk of disbanding the police, that are as useful as a condom in a Convent!!!
I hope nothing bad happens, but I agree with these, having those guns to protect themselves, should there be riots, again, and our "leaders" failing, yet AGAIN!!
Last year, the Police DID NOTHING!!! They ran away and hid!! It took our loser, DB governor more than 2 days, to even call in the National Guard, because the Police were a Limp dick!!!

[Rangers]

Y'all are wasting your time, you're talking to a wall. She's even more mindless than she looks. Yeah, I said it. Chauvin was 100% guilty of second degree murder. I support police and I also believe we have to hold the bad ones accountable and call a spade a spade. His knee was on his neck for almost 9 minutes straight and he said he couldn't breathe numerous times plus an autopsy confirmed than Floyd died of asphyxiation from sustained pressure, meaning not being able to breathe due to the pressure on his neck from Chauvin's knee.

[JackSmy]

@Rangers That is why he is going to Trial, by Jury, if they can find enough, unbiassed ones! The trial will show if he is actually guilty, or if the amount of drugs, in Floyd, at the time was the cause of death.
I am concerned about the RIOTS, if he is acquitted, when there is REASONABLE DOUBT, that he was the cause of death. . .

[Holisticapproachsara]

He was abusive and nasty. George isn't also all that, he is also a criminal who was in prison for armed robbery, but derek didn’t need to press on his neck like that with zeal and glee. It was clear he was trying to torture him.

[ZackBan]

It was staged and it shows.

Clearly an uncommon behavior to sit on a guy's neck for 10 whole minutes like people have better things to do in life than to kneel on a neck for a whole 10 mins it was also well placed in public with cameras recording.

I wouldn't be surprised if floyd himself was in on it as well.

It was a political strategy to get the American people to actually vote for once and seeing as how it benifited Biden one can assume him and his people were behind it

[Savage_Wisdom]

George Floyd OD'd while resisting arrest. If you just listen to the cops from the get-go, he'd probably still be alive today. He died because he was high off his gourd on Lord only knows what drugs, and somehow thought it was a good idea to try and get away from the cops after they'd already arrested him. His death rests solely on his own hands.

Besides, he was repeat convicted felon with a rap sheet as long as my arm, including threatening to shoot and kill a pregnant woman during a home invasion. Not someone worth crying over, much less starting all these senseless riots.

[blondfrog]

He wasn't resisting arrest in the video. It was clear he wasn't.

[Savage_Wisdom]

https://youtu.be/XkEGGLu_fNU

[Savage_Wisdom]

The only does that video show him actively resisting arrest, he was shouting about not being able to breathe long before he ever gone on the ground.

[Savage_Wisdom]

And I'm 70% sure that bit about being claustrophobic is BS. Although he was telling the truth about having covid-19.

[Savage_Wisdom]

Just in case you're wondering, because it is a long video, while he does show some light resistance got the entire rest, the real resisting arrest happens at about 6 minutes into the video where the officers try and put him in their car. Where he does everything humanly possible to not get in that car. He even tries climbing out the other side.

[onedarkcloud]

That is for a court of law not here. I do not know if we have all the information. As much as I dont like Trump he was convicted in the newspapers and by CNN MSNBC of Russia , Russia , Russia false witnesses lying under oath for 4 years and it was proved that the was framed. So a man died we have been shown the same news clip thousands of time , but is there more things that we do not know about I do not know so I will wait for his trial it is only fair. No matter what we think

[LuvMeSomeBoys]

Wholeheartedly agree!

[blondfrog]

Even if that guy knowingly sold counterfeit money the punishment is not a 9 minute choking. He is def guilty. Thankfully he got convicted for manslaughter. Although a 1st degree murder would have been better. We need to make an example out of people who abuse their power.

[LuvMeSomeBoys]

How about letting a court of law decide rather than social media lynch mobs?

[SuccessfulHornDog]

Best idea I have heard in the last 12 months

[blondfrog]

They did and he got convicted for 15 years of manslaughter.

[Anonymous]

Calling it now, before the trial, and "not guilty" because of reasonable doubt, as Floyd was a drug addict, and loaded at that time, from what I heard.
Of course, the idiots will riot, with the Not-Guilty, but they don't care about facts! It is just a white cop, and a dead African American man. Doesn't matter if he had so many drugs in his system that he probably would have died, later, regardless.

[Agape93]

Guilty. Sorry but you don’t kneel on a mans neck for 9 minutes, killing him, and not be guilty of killing him. If I did that in a citizens arrest, I’d be charged with 3rd degree murder too.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Anyone that think Derek Chauvin innocent is a disgusting human being.

That prick layed his knee and body weight on a defenseless handcuffed man's neck for over 9 straight minutes murdering him in day of time before witnesses recording him.

[goaded]

Less than 8, apparently, but yes.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@goaded: I think it was over 9 minutes, almost 10.

[goaded]

"For seven minutes and 46 seconds, Mr Chauvin kept his knee on Mr Floyd's neck, the prosecutors' report says. The duration was initially given as eight minutes and 46 seconds until Minnesota prosecutors corrected the figure three weeks after Mr Floyd's death."
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52861726

It was still seven a half minutes minutes too long.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@goaded: My bad

[Stoner710]

Probably guilty of manslaughter or aggravated assault but not second-degree murder which is what he being charged with, so he’s going to get off there’s going to be riots and Joe Biden is not gonna do anything about it

[Anonymous]

Floyd was passing counterfeit money, trying to escape, and swallowed the illegal drugs he was holding and that drug was fentanyl which depressed his breathing and he died from a standard police hold that has been used tens of thousands of times.

The criminal is the criminal, not the cop.

[yolo18]

here : www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52861726

[electromagnetic]

He’s guilty simple as that. But Floyd wasn’t exactly innocent either. Drugs make you irrational and cops overreact to irrationality.

[karenchick111]

Poor guy was just doing his job. By the way, I'd feel the same if the races were reversed.

[Ilickvulvas]

Fentanyl was found in the criminals system. When you OD on narcotics it stops your breathing. He was dying of a narcotic overdose

[ChiTown33]

He's guilty. But not of murder of manslaughter. Being an a**hole is not illegal.

[BeMuse]

He’s not guilty of what he was charged with. He’ll walk.

[Anonymous]

He's guilty as charged, there was a 17-year-old black female taking the video
that is who he's looking at while he is crushing George Floyds back?

[Anonymous]

you mean the man who was dying of a drug overdose and told the police to make him lay on the ground? Yeah, that cop's not guilty at all. It's a bullshit racist lie that Floyd is a hero. Dude was a piece of crap human. Don't @ me BLM or Antifa lovers.

[Massageman]

Given the level of drugs in girlfriend, I hope that Derek gets sprung- soon.

[Jack9949]

It was the drug’s in his body that killed him. The fentanyl caused him to panic to death under the weight on his neck.

[Daniel_Dano]

He is guilty but George floyd wasn't innocent either