How can biden and pelosi claim to be catholic yet support abortion? Isn’t the church totally against that?

[Pterodon]

I used lower case on purpose because they don’t deserve capital letters

[Anonymous]

Why would anyone even care what a church, who condoned and covered up pedophilia for decades, has to say on abortion? They’ve lost the right to moralize to anyone. Next.

[Pterodon]

This is about them being hypocrites

[Opinion Owner]

All politicians are hypocrites in various ways. That somehow surprises you?

[Agape93]

This isn’t a Catholic country. It’s a secular nation with secular laws, a secular government and a secular constitution. Doesn’t matter what they believe in or not.

[Pterodon]

Yes it does. If you support something against your church then you’re really not what you claim. You and they have no defense

[Agape93]

Except that’s not how politics works hon. He can have his beliefs all day long. But he works for the American people and is not entitled to push his personal beliefs into the whole country. This isn’t a dictatorship

[Pterodon]

Yes he can. He can run as a a dem and publicly not support abortion but he doesn’t does he

[Agape93]

Could but he didn’t. Just because ones religion says one thing, doesn’t mean one can’t have different thoughts on something. Have you never seen a Christian before? Doing shit against their religion is kinda their thing.

[Pterodon]

Not so. Then that makes him a proven liar doesn’t it

[Agape93]

Welcome to politics. They’re all liars. Glad you could join the rest of us in understanding that!

[blank_expression]

The Catholic Church at the highest levels has become extremely corrupt with pedophilia oozing out of the Vatican walls. The Church is tied in with the cabal and other than local, they are as evil as Satan, all of them.

[Anonymous]

If being a catholic means that you have to push your beliefs on everybody and make them live by your religious standards, I don’t know why anybody would even want to call themselves catholic.
Biden’s decision to not make others live by his beliefs should be applauded.
Besides, shouldn’t the catholic church be looking at the beam in it’s own eye?

[The_Maphio]

You don't discuss logic with the left. It's not part of their being.

[Gwenhwyfar]

Some American clergy are not that against it. And a lot of Catholic laypeople are pro-choice. It’s called cafeteria Catholicism: pick what you like and ignore the rest.

[NorthwestRider]

And why you care about the stupidest things not the real issues?

[Pterodon]

That is a real issue. To me they’re hypocrites

[NorthwestRider]

Real issues are corruption, the economy, Healthcare, the infrastructure, clean water and air, etc not silly stupid cultural war crap

[Pterodon]

By voting for Biden you don’t give a fuck about the economy or healthcare.

[NorthwestRider]

I do not vote for Biden

[EnglishEuropean]

Separation of church and state? Is that a thing in America?

[Pterodon]

Don’t claim to be something but then vote the opposite

[EnglishEuropean]

Translation?

[Anonymous]

Who gives a shit what the church or pope says. What's important is what god says. And no where in the bible does it say abortion is a sin.

[Pterodon]

You haven’t read the Old Testament then. God said to Jeremiah I think, don’t quote me on the person, but the scripture reads “I knew you before you were in the womb”

[Pterodon]

Jeremiah 1:5

[Pterodon]

It’s actually “I knew you before I formed you in the womb”

[Opinion Owner]

way to take a direct conversation god is having specifically with jeremiah out of context. maybe i'm missing the part where god says, or even implies abortion is wrong.

“Before I formed you in the womb I knew[a] you,
before you were born I set you apart;
I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.”

[Pterodon]

That’s right. It means he has known all of us before he formed us but in Jeremiahs case he specifically set him aside to be a prophet

[Pterodon]

Babies come from God.

[Pterodon]

All I’m doing is giving evidence to your claim. Now if you want to twist it to suit your beliefs then you can argue your case with Jesus when you stand before him. Good luck with that

[Opinion Owner]

i'm not twisting anything. you're taking a verse out of context that doesn't even address the issue of abortion and suggesting it implies a stance on abortion when it doesn't. read the entire chapter in context and you'll see that.

You can take any verse out of context and apply any meaning whatsoever to it. but when you read it in context of the entire chapter, you'll see it's bullshit.

[Pterodon]

Again good luck arguing your case

[Opinion Owner]

lol, this from someone who's entire argument was one line taken completely out of context.

[Pterodon]

To you

[Anonymous]

Everything that they claim to believe in is up for sale

[anylolone]

Different kinds of Catholics.

[Pterodon]

Bullshit. The church does not recognize differences

[anylolone]

Doesn't matter, official institutions don't matter for this kind of shit.
Most catholics don't agree with half of the positions of the church, and for each one, it's a different half.
lol!
Religion is weird, guy, just go with it.

(not that I believe they are actually catholics, by the what)

[Pterodon]

I’m not going to go with it. You are what you vote

[anylolone]

What do you mean?

[Pterodon]

Which is it. Are you catholic and support the church or do you vote for a person that says he’s your church but by his actions and platforms proves he isn’t.

[anylolone]

I'm not catholic and I would vote on the devil before I voted on biden.

But we aren't talking about that.
We are talking of religion.
Do you agree with pope commie on all of the positions he took for the church?

[Pterodon]

This isn’t about me or non Catholics. Since you’re not catholic fuck off

[anylolone]

Nope, outsiders are actually better to talk about stuff like that.
That's the only way to have a clinical look.

[JesseJayNeak]

Left is not about logic