[I’m purposefully not including “ reality bc you never know what might happen” bc in this question we are answering based on the condition can not be able changed.]
Yes obviously really is best and necessary for a full productive life and people understandable put a lot of stock into the ability to deal in reality, but when for whatever reason, the circumstances are completely out of someone’s control, do you think “dealing in an intractable painful reality” is necessarily superior to living in a beautifully constructed fantasy world?
NOT autobiographical atm but when I was young, I did spend a lot of time in my head exploring the worlds I created that were completely independent of “ reality” and it really got me through some seriously dark dark times. Since I ran away life has 💯 opened up & blossomed, but I’m thinking if I had to live the way I had to live forever, I don’t see the incentive to vet come out of my private world 🤷♀️
Many culture have strong social networks and social programs that help circumvent complete despair & lonely misery may be less common than in other cultures, ideally people would have support. Word study need to choose an alt reality to survive.
I think a sense of enrichment is better whether it’s cultivated or or udk of I go with the fantasy world
It’s always better to deal in reality bc we are guide beings and know the difference between fact & fiction and we should respect that.
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What if you had no limbs and could not see or talk but could hear and you lived in a tiny village with people who were not kind bad in no real interaction but they did keep you alive. Would you want to spend time listening to what little was happening in the house unable to do anything unable to communicate, or would you rather create a place in your mind where you had a full life had control. Some people are really stuck with no way out... it’s not simply mind over matter.
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Met an astonishing story teller @ a Hospital in France. 3 feet tall w/ misplaced organs & always lying down bc she couldn’t move much without causing problems. She could talk tho and used to tell most vividly brilliant beautiful stories. I wrote them down but everything was lost in my move to the states. I try to reconstruct them by memory unfortunately can not get it to her level😔 She had such nuanced skill as an orator ♥️
She passed away my third week there. Nurses cried. 35 years a patient.
Do you think it’s better to live a dark reality (for whatever reason you can’t change) or beautiful fantasy life (provided you do not harm Others)?
Personally i'm a fan of reality myself. But i believe subjects like this are multi-dimensional.
Meaning, i believe there is a fine line between fact and fiction, fact and opinion, reality and imagination. However, at the same time, the concept of reality can be defined by people's personal perception. We can tell someone what they think and feel is a delusion, but when they are sensing it, breathing it, living it, for the outside world it's an imagination, but from the person's view and belief, it's a reality.
With that said, we also have thoughts and it's connection to energy field. A financially poor person living in the dream of luxurious items around them might be living in an imagination, delusion, or an unrealistic alternate reality from some other's point of view. Although, we can also argue that the person is living and attracting their desired future. The law of attraction magnets the energy fields carried away by our thoughts. So our thoughts might be unrealistic to meaures of the present time and sound like a dream, or a disconnected reality, but it's a vision of the future. Is someone in prison who sees and feels the freedom, sees through the bars living in fiction? No. That person is refusing to stuck physically and mentally both in the current painful situation, instead, they are visioning the future and sensing life from a different perspective. It has been proven that when you mentally believe in a condition beyond your physical presents, our body cells believes the psych and reproduce accordingly, the body might not be there, but the cells would live in the condition which the mind has thought of and believed in.
In fact, when someone tend to build a beautiful fictional world in their mind while phyaically they are enduring pain, that, it's a subconscious survival mechanism to create hope, motivation, desire and a vision beyond the current time in order to keep the person through the situation. Because it's the mind that moves the body, not the other way around. Same mechanism that makes people to hallucinate a vision of someone they care so much about when they are about to give up during a painful and life and death situation. It's a survival algorithm.
So i think the answer to this question can be extremely situational.
That’s a good answer, I like how you have considered the mind is part of reality and so forth and the role fantasy plays in determining outcome. I was not thinking that far but yeah it’s a good point.
I picked B. Reality can really suck at times. I can imagine situations where it is almost impossible to bear. But reality is observable and we can learn lessons from it. It can give us opportunities to grow.
Retreating into fantasy is to accept hopelessness. It is surrender. It's similar to the use of substances to hide from reality. But it's self defeating.
I do acknowledge the value of fantasy, however, as long as it is productive and not a complete replacement for reality. Living in fantasy would be a form of psychosis.
It's healthy to deal with reality, search for the good parts, find ways to deal with the bad parts, and seek ways to improve our lives. But engaging in a bit of fantasy is healthy and useful. We can use it to imagine what we want so that we can pursue a better reality. We can also use it creatively to create art or other forms of beauty that might turn out to be the path to prosperity and happiness. Fantasizing about a magical garden, for example, could inspire one to participate in a community garden and grow vegetables, fragrant herbs, and beautiful flowers. It would provide access to healthy food, some possible income, the opportunity to learn and to make friends. The gained knowledge and connections could possibly lead to satisfying and meaningful employment.
Right I agree in theory but if you are literally not going to escape and you can not go anywhere or change anything why is it better to be aware of what is happening?
Given that premise, I guess fantasy is better than suicide. At least if you are alive, you can use your mind to escape into fantasy. That's what we do when we read books, right? Books are only temporary fantasy, though. So if all you had was your mind, living in a dream world wouldn't be bad.
In some cases when someone really only has their mind, they can crate art and share tuat with others. That’s prob the best case scenario. It’s above wha many non trapped people are able to do. But they’d need a way to get the stories out so you are dependent on someone.
I knew a woman like this when I was in the hospital. She was 35 but about 3 feet tall tho she was always lying down bc her organs were in messed up places so she couldn’t move much without causing problems. She could talk tho and used to tell beautiful stories. I write them down but everything was kist in my life to the states. Sometimes I try to reconstruct them but I can't Get it to her level she had such a nuanced skill. She passed away my third week there. All the nurses cried bc she’s been in that hospital nearly her whole life she was like family.
I’d rather live a dark reality because at least it’s real. A fantasy of happiness is cathartic but it’s not real, and usually a happy fantasy is meant to cover up or escape from said dark reality anyways.
Right the point is an escape. And in normal circumstance it’s best to learn to cope with bad times and stay tethered... but in unusual circumstance, is it really bad to rely on fantasy, if it’s your only way of escaping a bad situation?
Yes. You’re not escaping anything, you’re still there. You’re just tuning it out for a while. For example, a kid who gets molested by her dad every night is still going to get molested every night, no matter what fantasy she escapes in. The fantasy doesn’t stop it, at best it helps them cope. That’s literally the only real benefit.
But again if you can not physically escape why is it better to be present? why is it “better”? the point is not that it changes anything but that you have a better place to go.
Because you’re present either way, like I said, at best it’s a coping mechanism for as long as you’re in there. From experience hon, escapism is cathartic. But when reality comes right back, you’re not prepared for it. But staying in reality, you become numb to the pain after a while. That’s how I see it and how I managed
Interesting topic and cannot be answered in this or that.
Now assuming I'm this situation dark is something bad happening to a person in present.
But now by imagining and believing things will subside the pain and give hope to live.
So it's good for you during that situation it gave you hope in despair and kept you sane.
And you could move through pain and suffering which was inescapable but bearable.
So that imaginary world is an idea or call it something like ideal society or ideal way of leading life.
So it isn't really a fantasy it's just more suitable and sustainable life opportunity it's an idea to live life differently that doesn't make it a fantasy.
It's a way to live life in completely different approach towards same life.
Like there can be two three routes leading to same destination taking different turns duration and speed depending on where you are starting from.
If you see everything is a construct of mind you can't say something is really and something isn't.
Like something like a plane or flying was imaginary a 5000 years back but is truth now flying cars came to existance now.
You know it's a belief that makes something real or not take for example God/spiritual energy. his an idea 💡 , an idea so strong that people across culture and globally believe in known by different forms but still he gives strength to some and for some to blame him for the wrongs in there life still he serves at least one single purpose in there life
It's a paradox. If you live a fantasy, that is your reality, and there is only your reality. Reality as it stands is already a complex illusion anyway, so your question don't "actually" make sense. But I rather live in a beautiful fantasy, it's not like you would know it's a fantasy.
The minds a massively powerful tool, I wake up after dreams where I've had huge arguments with people (back story I'm a laid back guy who rarely disagrees with anyone lol) and I've felt alive as it suggest my sub conscious mind is emotionally aware. As long as you don't harm anyone else it's best to live in the reality that keeps you happy/content.
@VIVANT I've been up against many challenges in life and I often ask myself why didn't I just leave and make a new life for myself, I was put through a Father who verbally abused me and my Sister and later Mom... Recently I found a picture of my Father holding me I was like 6 weeks old and I ask myself wow what happened to you and I've had severe bullying in school so I'm always putting my guards up and for a while now I live with a cousin who came from a long history abuse of illegal drug abuse so recently she's telling me that she had xanax stole off of her and money were taken out of her bank account so she was befriending this one woman who is a heroin addict so this makes me wonder about things.. I've done things in my life and I can't take them back but I feel bad I do believe that there will be light at the end of the tunnel for all of us
Did you read the post tho? I’m talking about a situation where you have no hope of changing your circumstance. Whatever yoir nightmare is. That’s your life for the remainder.
What if you had no limbs and could not see or talk but could hear and you lived in a tiny village with people who were not kind bad in no real interaction but they did keep you alive. Would you want to spend time listening to what was happening in the house unable to do anything unable to communicate, or would you rather create a place in your mind where you had a full life.
I would bite my own tongue off if I could and kill myself.
At that point life would be so miserable that imagination wouldn't be sufficient, we really thrive off interaction as humans.
20 years effectively alone? Ok, I can do that. Give me biological immortality and I can go longer, since I know the future can change from the present.
All of my life? No.. I refuse to be a stationary prisoner, my only enjoyment being my own thoughts.. all of my existence. I have a nice mind, it is patient & kind to myself but it's not enough entertainment. I need people in my life, if I endure suffering it should be productive & have hope of change, even if slim.
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