Dont know, I go back and forth with this one. One one hand, the bible says spare the rod spoil the child, on the other hand, people say that verse is misinterpreted and is not literal but metaphorical and there's other more spiritually mature ways of disciplining your child and helping them to understand things. I don't believe in just spanking kid if they didn't even know what they were doing was wrong and it was an innocent intention. Thats lazy impatient parents with no spiritual discipline or maturity. Which is ironic, they are trying to discipline there kid. I hear you about the brain damage thing. Liberals often skew studies, so I dont know how true that is. It might only be if there beating there kid with a belt or spanking them to hard. Is weird to spank a kid when there a teenager especially a girl. If parents talk thing out with there teenager or take way privilege, why would they not do the same with a young child?
no, i don't. i think spanking is a very necessary "tool" in your tool belt of socialization. though it should definitelay be the least used one and if it is used, it should never be used in anger but purely from a socialization standpoint. your job as a parent is to prepare your child for life. and if you behave a certain way in life, you will face physical force. it is a parents job to show the boundaries to their chid. and if you will never even consider physical corrective measures, then your child can't be properly prepared. maybe you never need it. maybe your child doesn't test those boundaries. good. no obligation to use spanking. but it has to be a tool at your disposal that you're competent in using, when the situation calls for it.
I used to be spanked with a belt and it hurt. I used to be verbally abused and I still am. It's not okay to abuse children in any way because it's scarring. Because of those things my brain developed a thing that I remember exactly what happened and what was said when I got verbally or physically abused and it never goes away from my memory. It's better to talk to them but never abuse them, I know at least 17 teenagers that got abused similarly to me and all of us are afraid of our parents because they caused that. If I ever see a kid get abused by their parents in public I feel instantly bad for them and I just want to take the kid away from them as far as possible. It's evil to abuse children.
I think it depends on the degree of force in the spanking. I don't believe a belt, rope or any other tool like that is acceptable and does lean more towards abuse. My family used the yard stick (which I would say is acceptable), as it was usually a flimsy piece of wood or plastic, so the harm/force that could be done was minimal. The worst would be an open hand, but even then, it was just a few swats on the butt (~5-10 and only the butt) and not full blown hits.
Like everything, the frequency and severity of the blows make a lot of difference. I don't believe it's a bad discipline, as usually it was reserved ((again, RESERVED)) for the WORST punishment, not the first choice.
what we have here is the product of a generation that didn't experience enough suffering in youth and so tries to do no harm anywhere in life
suffering is not optional. you can suffer a little when you are little or you can suffer big when you are big.
also: i don't put any trust in these studies that say something "can" happen to kids later in life. 75% of all published psychology studies cannot be reproduced and the field has no methodology that merits taking it seriously. plus they only publish studies that fit the narrative they want
Timeout is WAY more effective than spanking. My son HATES time out. 🤣 I don't spank my son but I was spanked as a child, it didn't negativity effect me and I love my parents. And spanking wasn't the primary form of punishment from my parents, I was only spanked when I acted REALLY bad. Some other forms of punishment I received were sentence writing and filling up a bucket with rocks from the backyard. 🤣 And time outs of course.
Also my child is still only two years old. There's not even any point in spanking a toddler because a toddler isn't developed mentally enough to fully understand correct behavior and incorrect behavior.
I was spanked. It is a horrible way to discipline a child. It teaches them that when you cannot control your emotions that you are allowed to use violence to solve it. But in fact violence is not a solution. I do not spank my children. The culture of laughing about being spanked discussing how to spank children and laughing about it has to stop. As a diasporic African woman it is a particular problem in our various nations and communities.
It's abuse, plain and simple. Spanking children traumatizes them. At that young age their extremely vulnerable and are emotionally highly dependent on their parents and their trust to them is crucial. By spanking them, parents ruin that trust. And no anecdote in the world about "my parents spanked me and I turned out fine" will ever change that psychological fact. Also - no, you did not turn out fine. You turned out to be a piece of shit who thinks it's okay to spank children. You just came full circle of abusiveness. Also, parents do not spank their children because they have no other options to "teach" them. They spank them to relieve THEIR OWN frustrations and anger issues. It's 100% selfish, and the kids are the victims. If you believe you "need" to spank your children, you have failed as a parent. No excuses.
It's anecdotal to make the claim that spanking a child breaks trust. You can try and make a case for why you think that. But you can't really make that claim as if it were fact.
And someone saying they were spanked and it didn't negatively effect their trust in their parents (such as myself) is a logical response to your claim. The "I turned out fine" point is a little different and semi irrelevant so I'll give you that.
But I confided in my parents on damn near everything. Even when it was hard and I was the most spanked out of my siblings. To this day my dad is if not the person I most trust he's top 2.
Hard to say it damaged or broke trust. Even in the short term I trusted both parents.
@rjroy3 No, it is a fact. Study after study proves it. And the consensus among the experts is close to 100%. So fuck off with you biased denial, you child abuse apologist.
Anecdotes are irrelevant. "My uncle was a chain smoker his whole life and never got lung cancer, therefore cigarettes don't cause lung cancer". That's how retarded you sound. Also, I already said that none of you people turned out fine. You're gonna abuse your own children, or are okay with other people abusing their children. Therefore you did not turn out "fine". You turned out to be a child abuser like your parents, or at least a child abuse apologist.
I prefer to fight my children fair and square. Where people always mess up is making it some weird sadomasochistic ritual. That's what fucks people up! When your kid mouths off just tap them on the head with one knuckle to get their attention then give them a smile and tell them why they need to listen better. Kids are extremely sociopathic at times, to an extent that, if they where bigger, they could be dangerous. Whatever it takes to get them to grow up you have to do it. Some kids are just Assholes! When you have kids you'll find out, 😆
I grew up where corporal punishment was the norm and I am grateful for it. It taught me a lesson.
Today the youth get away with everything and its all a fat joke. When they see the repercussions are are so low and the parents are pretty much defenceless.
I have around 8 friends who kids have never had a spanking or any sort of punishment because its not allowed grow up to be little over sensitive brats who simply get there way by screaming and slamming doors.
Later in life you left with a young adult that thinks the world just going to give everything he wants. Often this does not end up well and now you have a depressed spoilt adult that can't cope in the real world.
Yess, spanking causes long term psychological damage. It also makes your child more likely to put up with domestic abuse in the future or even be the abuser. It is child abuse.
Obviously things like this affect different people in different ways and different strengths. I was abused as a young teen not as a child so i probably have more severe trauma from that because I remember all of it Whereas as a child you probably remember that you were spanked but can probably only recall a handful of times
Yeah you're right, my father only spanked me until I was 7, my mother did until I was 15, but she was weaker than me at that point. My dad was the one I feared the most because he's a lot stronger, but he abandoned this practice after he left the church.
@SupremeWarlord I was beaten with laptop charger cords , Spoons , Belt. I has course huge damage I am taking therapy session all thanks to my mom , I hate that woman.
@SupremeWarlord You think it is normal to use violence on children. I talk to therapist and they all had told me no matter belt or laptop charger it is all child abuse. Some people just shouldn't be allowed to have children.
Very well said , and if there is one line I despise its " It didn't do me any harm " , read it in this thread again.. YES IT DID YOU A LOT OF HARM , they may be too stupid to know it , but it certainly did harm. As you correctly say , they will be charged in the future.
Beyond DOUBT - ABUSE oks violence , and says " biggest wins " , so imagine when they grow up.. Understand its beyond doubt , reflected in every stat - Abuse creates abusers , it just the worst possible outcome - VERY WELL SAID , thanks for some logic.
@ChrisMaster69 Spot on Chris , I never ever struck my children , and they became wonderful adults. Hitting a kid with a belt ( as the the picture ) sends that kid a message that if he/ she is stronger its fine to smack another kid in the mouth , he does this the kid crys , he thinks " Wow power " .. 20 years on he / she is abusing the wife , and attacking children , the circle continues.
Outdated I don't know but it certainly doesn't do anything good and just teach children that strong people can do whatever they want to smaller / weaker people. It's no wonder there's so many bullying in school...
In my country it's officially illegal to hit children but everybody do it and police don't give a shit.
@TonyMetal___86 Slapping does no good at all, you're completely delusional. It make matter worse, I can say for sure since every time I got slapped I was even worse than before, my mom even broken my teeth but t-it never changed anything. Corporal punishment is good for nothing, it doesn't work.
Broke your tooth? Wth well that ain't slapping, it's beating hard! Slapping is only a last resort, your not going to start slapping immediatly unless they were super stubborn and destroying themselves..
If i had a girl and was forced to slap her, the 1st rule is to never touch her face or her abdomen where her organs are located, the spanking is on the butt, legs and hands only...
@TonyMetal___86 Leg? Who slap leg? Also face or any other body area it's the same gesture, it's still a person who hurt physically a person who' they're supposed to love and protect and not hurt...
Also slap is never a last resort those who slap their child do it as the second resort after yelling and insulting them...
@TonyMetal___86 Too slapping is dangerous, I got slapped on my cheeks by my mother as a child, she did it so hard I fell on the ground and my ear got ripped on the furniture (I lost a tiny bit of my ear) then fell on the ground, they were blood everywhere, she didn't give a shit. Those who can hit their child are not made to be parents. You should be patient for having a child and talk to them instead of hitting them.
@alice55 miss alice i can't believe what i'm hearing, i'd never do such a thing to my child, your parents aren't parents at all and what you said is right that we love and care about children and when i said that slapping them is the last resort, it's because after being nice for a long time and treating them the best treatment and always advicing them about what's right and wrong but still can't change, you will try to punish them by spanking and that's when the punishments doesn't works...
Believe me that there are some kids who learns pnly the hardway...
You have 2 choices,. either losing and surrender to your kids or win them forever, i choose to win them!
A child knows if his/her parents loves them or not and they know that they made mistakes and they forced their parents to treat them like that but like i said no no to the face and body, the spanking and slapping are only on arms, legs and butt!
I can't believe that your mother did that to you, seeing you bleeding and doing nothing, i would of gone crazy if i had a daughter and saw her bleeding, i'll stop the flowing of blood immediatlt and take her to hospital and after that i'll buy her a bottle of natural juice to replace the blood that she lost and to fill her body with vitamins and than i'll hug her tight and make sure that she is loved and feel safe!
@TonyMetal___86 Dude you don't have children so you can't say how you'll act. Also if you're ready to hit your child you can't say you're going to be a loving parents...
I was spanked a lot when I was a kid... I turned out OK, I guess..
The most important thing to remember is the child is being punished for something they did wrong, they need to know that. Parents should tell them the reason why the child is spanked.
Never treat the kids like a punching bag or a way to vent your frustration.
No spanking is necessary not to be confused with the abusive disciplining that ends up scarring a child. Spanking should never be a prolonged experience. It's meant to show a consequence whenever other methods don't work. You'd tell your child to defend themselves against bullies right? Well let's raise our kids not to be a bully. Talk to them. Make sure your setting the example for them. When the mess up talk to them. Get them to understand your words. Only when the behavior becomes consistent, then spanking I believe is necessary. I was spanked maybe 9 times my whole life. Each of the things I was spanked for never repeated again afterwards. My parents showed me the example and talked with me a lot about how to treat people and others things.
Id rather use monotony or boredom as a punishment. Hitting a child would imply that you're communication skills are terrible. Take their tablet cellphone. Have them write lines. Stand in the corner. If they keep misbehaving no candy or anything with sugar. If you only reward good behavior you'll always be able to get some respect. Life has consequences for decisions
@mobiusforniner kids respect consistency. If they know that theyll get away with it 7/10 they will try everytime. If there's consequences everytime then they will fall in line. It doesn't work because they dont respect you, theyve gotten away from suffering consequences too long.
It doesn't work because kids will jeep trying to test boundaries. I have several kids. Some will easily get it. Others won't. And thats the thing i think lots of responders on here dont quite understand- there's no one perfect approach to parenting. My kids are growing older but I feel the things i did to teach and discipline them have helped in their unique ways. I never felt i abuse them. Nor do i feel they hate or despise me. Until you have kids of your own, and endure the joy and pain of rearing them, then dont pretend to be an expert on parenting
@mobiusforniner not pretending to be an expert. Just giving examples of how my parents raised us to respect ourselves and others. Sorry if anything i said was triggering or inconsiderate
There are situations I've seen personally as a kid where spanking was taken way too far. One such instance involving my friend. His mom would take it to Abusive Levels. I literally felt sorry for him. It wasn't the spanking that was the problem from my point of view. The problem was his mom was crazy. She probably would have went to jail for abuse if there were Cell Phone Cameras back then (if I filmed it and uploaded it). Internet was in its infancy at that time, Cell Phones were big and bulky, and there definitely wasn't any Cell Phone Cameras. No wonder she was single.
There's a time for it but shouldn't be a go to as it usually is for a lot of typical families. I say it bypasses too many words that should be said and to me shows the parent is more incapable. there's a respect factor that shouldn't have to be met by a belt or any act of violence. Stern voice and strict understanding with consequences that are more than just taking a phone or game away. Get the respect and understanding down and a point of self motivated progression and they'll be on a much better path
I don't get spanked, I get beaten up with hands, my dad's belt, tv remotes, combs and wooden spatulas lmfao. It's Indian parents y'all chill. It's common here
It isn’t acceptable, yes, but they’ve done that only like 2 times in my whole life. The other times, they just make me write: I’m sorry, I will not do this again” for 100 times or make me do the household chores lol
Spanking is okay but playing ninja ain't 😄 Seems your a wild naughty girl, the parents will always love their kids, even if they spank them it's just to make them understand that their doing something wrong and needs to stop doing it...
I think the vast majority of people doing this, are doing it out of emotion/anger and don’t really know the science or methodology of this as it relates to effectiveness in disciplining children. In other words, if these people are successful in what they are doing to accomplish a certain goal, then they are successful by luck and chance rather than actually thinking about what they are doing to provide for an intelligent or deliberate outcome.
Nope. I do it. I had it done to me growing up and I came out fine. And my mom grew up abused by her dad because he would beat her. So there's a definite difference in the reasoning why to spank your kid. I wasn't a bad kid or a wild child I was pretty smart and calm.
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Dont know, I go back and forth with this one. One one hand, the bible says spare the rod spoil the child, on the other hand, people say that verse is misinterpreted and is not literal but metaphorical and there's other more spiritually mature ways of disciplining your child and helping them to understand things. I don't believe in just spanking kid if they didn't even know what they were doing was wrong and it was an innocent intention. Thats lazy impatient parents with no spiritual discipline or maturity. Which is ironic, they are trying to discipline there kid. I hear you about the brain damage thing. Liberals often skew studies, so I dont know how true that is. It might only be if there beating there kid with a belt or spanking them to hard. Is weird to spank a kid when there a teenager especially a girl. If parents talk thing out with there teenager or take way privilege, why would they not do the same with a young child?
no, i don't. i think spanking is a very necessary "tool" in your tool belt of socialization. though it should definitelay be the least used one and if it is used, it should never be used in anger but purely from a socialization standpoint. your job as a parent is to prepare your child for life. and if you behave a certain way in life, you will face physical force. it is a parents job to show the boundaries to their chid. and if you will never even consider physical corrective measures, then your child can't be properly prepared. maybe you never need it. maybe your child doesn't test those boundaries. good. no obligation to use spanking. but it has to be a tool at your disposal that you're competent in using, when the situation calls for it.
I used to be spanked with a belt and it hurt. I used to be verbally abused and I still am. It's not okay to abuse children in any way because it's scarring. Because of those things my brain developed a thing that I remember exactly what happened and what was said when I got verbally or physically abused and it never goes away from my memory. It's better to talk to them but never abuse them, I know at least 17 teenagers that got abused similarly to me and all of us are afraid of our parents because they caused that. If I ever see a kid get abused by their parents in public I feel instantly bad for them and I just want to take the kid away from them as far as possible. It's evil to abuse children.
I think it depends on the degree of force in the spanking. I don't believe a belt, rope or any other tool like that is acceptable and does lean more towards abuse. My family used the yard stick (which I would say is acceptable), as it was usually a flimsy piece of wood or plastic, so the harm/force that could be done was minimal. The worst would be an open hand, but even then, it was just a few swats on the butt (~5-10 and only the butt) and not full blown hits.
Like everything, the frequency and severity of the blows make a lot of difference. I don't believe it's a bad discipline, as usually it was reserved ((again, RESERVED)) for the WORST punishment, not the first choice.
what we have here is the product of a generation that didn't experience enough suffering in youth and so tries to do no harm anywhere in life
suffering is not optional. you can suffer a little when you are little or you can suffer big when you are big.
also: i don't put any trust in these studies that say something "can" happen to kids later in life. 75% of all published psychology studies cannot be reproduced and the field has no methodology that merits taking it seriously. plus they only publish studies that fit the narrative they want
Timeout is WAY more effective than spanking. My son HATES time out. 🤣 I don't spank my son but I was spanked as a child, it didn't negativity effect me and I love my parents. And spanking wasn't the primary form of punishment from my parents, I was only spanked when I acted REALLY bad. Some other forms of punishment I received were sentence writing and filling up a bucket with rocks from the backyard. 🤣 And time outs of course.
Also my child is still only two years old. There's not even any point in spanking a toddler because a toddler isn't developed mentally enough to fully understand correct behavior and incorrect behavior.
I was spanked. It is a horrible way to discipline a child. It teaches them that when you cannot control your emotions that you are allowed to use violence to solve it. But in fact violence is not a solution. I do not spank my children. The culture of laughing about being spanked discussing how to spank children and laughing about it has to stop. As a diasporic African woman it is a particular problem in our various nations and communities.
It's abuse, plain and simple. Spanking children traumatizes them. At that young age their extremely vulnerable and are emotionally highly dependent on their parents and their trust to them is crucial. By spanking them, parents ruin that trust.
And no anecdote in the world about "my parents spanked me and I turned out fine" will ever change that psychological fact. Also - no, you did not turn out fine. You turned out to be a piece of shit who thinks it's okay to spank children. You just came full circle of abusiveness.
Also, parents do not spank their children because they have no other options to "teach" them. They spank them to relieve THEIR OWN frustrations and anger issues. It's 100% selfish, and the kids are the victims. If you believe you "need" to spank your children, you have failed as a parent. No excuses.
It's anecdotal to make the claim that spanking a child breaks trust. You can try and make a case for why you think that. But you can't really make that claim as if it were fact.
And someone saying they were spanked and it didn't negatively effect their trust in their parents (such as myself) is a logical response to your claim. The "I turned out fine" point is a little different and semi irrelevant so I'll give you that.
But I confided in my parents on damn near everything. Even when it was hard and I was the most spanked out of my siblings. To this day my dad is if not the person I most trust he's top 2.
Hard to say it damaged or broke trust. Even in the short term I trusted both parents.
@rjroy3 No, it is a fact. Study after study proves it. And the consensus among the experts is close to 100%. So fuck off with you biased denial, you child abuse apologist.
Anecdotes are irrelevant. "My uncle was a chain smoker his whole life and never got lung cancer, therefore cigarettes don't cause lung cancer". That's how retarded you sound.
Also, I already said that none of you people turned out fine. You're gonna abuse your own children, or are okay with other people abusing their children. Therefore you did not turn out "fine". You turned out to be a child abuser like your parents, or at least a child abuse apologist.
I prefer to fight my children fair and square. Where people always mess up is making it some weird sadomasochistic ritual. That's what fucks people up! When your kid mouths off just tap them on the head with one knuckle to get their attention then give them a smile and tell them why they need to listen better. Kids are extremely sociopathic at times, to an extent that, if they where bigger, they could be dangerous. Whatever it takes to get them to grow up you have to do it. Some kids are just Assholes! When you have kids you'll find out, 😆
I don't think so.
I grew up where corporal punishment was the norm and I am grateful for it. It taught me
a lesson.
Today the youth get away with everything and its all a fat joke. When they see the repercussions are are so low and the parents are pretty much defenceless.
I have around 8 friends who kids have never had a spanking or any sort of punishment because
its not allowed grow up to be little over sensitive brats who simply get there way by screaming and slamming doors.
Later in life you left with a young adult that thinks the world just going to give everything he
wants. Often this does not end up well and now you have a depressed spoilt adult
that can't cope in the real world.
Yess, spanking causes long term psychological damage. It also makes your child more likely to put up with domestic abuse in the future or even be the abuser. It is child abuse.
100% agree.
As a parent I believe you have failed if you raise your adult hand to a child.
I’ve experienced and seen the emotional result of this trauma
Agreed. I was spanked as a kid. I can’t stand abuse, even fake movie/porn, etc abuse.
I was spanked and I got out fine.
Are you though... Generally people don't realize the trauma caused by abuse.
@Smashingdoozy good article here.
medium.com/.../spanking-kids-the-psychological-effects-according-to-science-8cdd2205faec
With guys it can cause problems securing relationships, delayed emotional and sexual maturity (think blue Anons virgins).
@ChrisMaster69 I mean, yeah? 🥴
haha I'm perfectly fine, no worries.
Obviously things like this affect different people in different ways and different strengths. I was abused as a young teen not as a child so i probably have more severe trauma from that because I remember all of it
Whereas as a child you probably remember that you were spanked but can probably only recall a handful of times
actually my previous reply was meant to @Smashingdoozy, not to @chrismaster69, sorry, I can't edit in this shit.
@SupremeWarlord it’s okay, I’m used to guys coming on to me, no worries.
I'm sorry for what you went through.
Yeah you're right, my father only spanked me until I was 7, my mother did until I was 15, but she was weaker than me at that point. My dad was the one I feared the most because he's a lot stronger, but he abandoned this practice after he left the church.
@SupremeWarlord Oh god you been brainwash.
@SupremeWarlord I was beaten with laptop charger cords , Spoons , Belt. I has course huge damage I am taking therapy session all thanks to my mom , I hate that woman.
@Alwayreckles93 yeah I can definitely relate, well not the laptop bit
@Alwayreckles93 Don't compare myself to you, my parents were pretty tame to me, and spanked me very few times. I'm fine, you are not.
I'm sorry your mother was definitely horrible.
@SupremeWarlord You think it is normal to use violence on children. I talk to therapist and they all had told me no matter belt or laptop charger it is all child abuse. Some people just shouldn't be allowed to have children.
@Alwayreckles93 Nope, I think spanking should be stopped too. I just said that I am fine.
Very well said , and if there is one line I despise its
" It didn't do me any harm " , read it in this thread again..
YES IT DID YOU A LOT OF HARM , they may be too stupid to know it , but it certainly did harm.
As you correctly say , they will be charged in the future.
@SicklyGamingVirgin
Correct , horrendous and inadequate parenting. I never did it , never would.
A method of the inarticulate.
Beyond DOUBT - ABUSE oks violence , and says " biggest wins " , so imagine when they grow up..
Understand its beyond doubt , reflected in every stat - Abuse creates abusers , it just the worst possible outcome - VERY WELL SAID , thanks for some logic.
@ChrisMaster69 Spot on Chris , I never ever struck my children , and they became wonderful adults.
Hitting a kid with a belt ( as the the picture ) sends that kid a message that if he/ she is stronger its fine to smack another kid in the mouth , he does this the kid crys , he thinks " Wow power " ..
20 years on he / she is abusing the wife , and attacking children , the circle continues.
Outdated I don't know but it certainly doesn't do anything good and just teach children that strong people can do whatever they want to smaller / weaker people. It's no wonder there's so many bullying in school...
In my country it's officially illegal to hit children but everybody do it and police don't give a shit.
It shouldn't be illegal and police doesn't give a shit because some kids needs to be taught the hard way...
Better to be spanked by the parents instead of the police...
Not all laws are right!
@TonyMetal___86 Slapping does no good at all, you're completely delusional. It make matter worse, I can say for sure since every time I got slapped I was even worse than before, my mom even broken my teeth but t-it never changed anything. Corporal punishment is good for nothing, it doesn't work.
Broke your tooth? Wth well that ain't slapping, it's beating hard!
Slapping is only a last resort, your not going to start slapping immediatly unless they were super stubborn and destroying themselves..
If i had a girl and was forced to slap her, the 1st rule is to never touch her face or her abdomen where her organs are located, the spanking is on the butt, legs and hands only...
@TonyMetal___86 Leg? Who slap leg? Also face or any other body area it's the same gesture, it's still a person who hurt physically a person who' they're supposed to love and protect and not hurt...
Also slap is never a last resort those who slap their child do it as the second resort after yelling and insulting them...
@TonyMetal___86 Too slapping is dangerous, I got slapped on my cheeks by my mother as a child, she did it so hard I fell on the ground and my ear got ripped on the furniture (I lost a tiny bit of my ear) then fell on the ground, they were blood everywhere, she didn't give a shit.
Those who can hit their child are not made to be parents. You should be patient for having a child and talk to them instead of hitting them.
@alice55 miss alice i can't believe what i'm hearing, i'd never do such a thing to my child, your parents aren't parents at all and what you said is right that we love and care about children and when i said that slapping them is the last resort, it's because after being nice for a long time and treating them the best treatment and always advicing them about what's right and wrong but still can't change, you will try to punish them by spanking and that's when the punishments doesn't works...
Believe me that there are some kids who learns pnly the hardway...
You have 2 choices,. either losing and surrender to your kids or win them forever, i choose to win them!
A child knows if his/her parents loves them or not and they know that they made mistakes and they forced their parents to treat them like that but like i said no no to the face and body, the spanking and slapping are only on arms, legs and butt!
I can't believe that your mother did that to you, seeing you bleeding and doing nothing, i would of gone crazy if i had a daughter and saw her bleeding, i'll stop the flowing of blood immediatlt and take her to hospital and after that i'll buy her a bottle of natural juice to replace the blood that she lost and to fill her body with vitamins and than i'll hug her tight and make sure that she is loved and feel safe!
@TonyMetal___86 Dude you don't have children so you can't say how you'll act. Also if you're ready to hit your child you can't say you're going to be a loving parents...
I was spanked a lot when I was a kid... I turned out OK, I guess..
The most important thing to remember is the child is being punished for something they did wrong, they need to know that. Parents should tell them the reason why the child is spanked.
Never treat the kids like a punching bag or a way to vent your frustration.
The only wise answer 😊
Also a kid would never be spanked unless the parent have lost all the peacfull ways...
No spanking is necessary not to be confused with the abusive disciplining that ends up scarring a child. Spanking should never be a prolonged experience. It's meant to show a consequence whenever other methods don't work. You'd tell your child to defend themselves against bullies right? Well let's raise our kids not to be a bully. Talk to them. Make sure your setting the example for them. When the mess up talk to them. Get them to understand your words. Only when the behavior becomes consistent, then spanking I believe is necessary. I was spanked maybe 9 times my whole life. Each of the things I was spanked for never repeated again afterwards. My parents showed me the example and talked with me a lot about how to treat people and others things.
When she said spank she meant the belt or any other lethal weapon to inflict pain upon the child
Id rather use monotony or boredom as a punishment. Hitting a child would imply that you're communication skills are terrible. Take their tablet cellphone. Have them write lines. Stand in the corner. If they keep misbehaving no candy or anything with sugar. If you only reward good behavior you'll always be able to get some respect. Life has consequences for decisions
Tried that. doesn't work. Kids will test your limits as a parent and if you react passively they will know you dont have authority
@mobiusforniner kids respect consistency. If they know that theyll get away with it 7/10 they will try everytime. If there's consequences everytime then they will fall in line. It doesn't work because they dont respect you, theyve gotten away from suffering consequences too long.
It doesn't work because kids will jeep trying to test boundaries. I have several kids. Some will easily get it. Others won't. And thats the thing i think lots of responders on here dont quite understand- there's no one perfect approach to parenting. My kids are growing older but I feel the things i did to teach and discipline them have helped in their unique ways. I never felt i abuse them. Nor do i feel they hate or despise me. Until you have kids of your own, and endure the joy and pain of rearing them, then dont pretend to be an expert on parenting
@mobiusforniner not pretending to be an expert. Just giving examples of how my parents raised us to respect ourselves and others. Sorry if anything i said was triggering or inconsiderate
Nah I like the discussion man. Just telling you what I think based on my experience.
There are situations I've seen personally as a kid where spanking was taken way too far. One such instance involving my friend. His mom would take it to Abusive Levels. I literally felt sorry for him. It wasn't the spanking that was the problem from my point of view. The problem was his mom was crazy. She probably would have went to jail for abuse if there were Cell Phone Cameras back then (if I filmed it and uploaded it). Internet was in its infancy at that time, Cell Phones were big and bulky, and there definitely wasn't any Cell Phone Cameras. No wonder she was single.
There's a time for it but shouldn't be a go to as it usually is for a lot of typical families. I say it bypasses too many words that should be said and to me shows the parent is more incapable. there's a respect factor that shouldn't have to be met by a belt or any act of violence. Stern voice and strict understanding with consequences that are more than just taking a phone or game away. Get the respect and understanding down and a point of self motivated progression and they'll be on a much better path
I don't get spanked, I get beaten up with hands, my dad's belt, tv remotes, combs and wooden spatulas lmfao. It's Indian parents y'all chill. It's common here
@tatianamay that’s an horrendous reply, being common does not make it right or acceptable
Well, yeah, but it kind of happens. They do that only if I was REALLY bad. Not just for like simple stuff lol
It isn’t acceptable, yes, but they’ve done that only like 2 times in my whole life. The other times, they just make me write: I’m sorry, I will not do this again” for 100 times or make me do the household chores lol
Spanking is okay but playing ninja ain't 😄
Seems your a wild naughty girl, the parents will always love their kids, even if they spank them it's just to make them understand that their doing something wrong and needs to stop doing it...
I am good friends with an indian woman. And she's a very independent, strong, and determined lady.
I think the vast majority of people doing this, are doing it out of emotion/anger and don’t really know the science or methodology of this as it relates to effectiveness in disciplining children. In other words, if these people are successful in what they are doing to accomplish a certain goal, then they are successful by luck and chance rather than actually thinking about what they are doing to provide for an intelligent or deliberate outcome.
Nope. I do it. I had it done to me growing up and I came out fine. And my mom grew up abused by her dad because he would beat her. So there's a definite difference in the reasoning why to spank your kid. I wasn't a bad kid or a wild child I was pretty smart and calm.